Since my [letter of October 28th], the FBI investigative team has been working around the clock to process and review a large volume of emails from a device obtained in connection with an unrelated criminal investigation. During that process we reviewed all of the communications that were to or from Hillary Clinton while she was Secretary of State.What does it mean? It at least means that Comey stands by his recommendation that Hillary Clinton should not be prosecuted over the way she handled classified information. I can't see that it means Comey thinks he did wrong in sending that letter on October 28th or that there are no ongoing investigations involving Clinton. It says nothing — as far as I can tell — about investigations into the Clinton Foundation or the usefulness of the new email in that regard.
Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July with respect to Secretary Clinton.
I am very grateful to the professionals at the FBI for doing an extraordinary amount of high-quality work in a short period of time.
Here's how the NYT puts it:
While the new letter was clear as it related to Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Comey’s message was otherwise vague. He did not say that agents had completed their review of the emails, or that they were abandoning the matter in regard to her aides. But federal law enforcement officials said that they considered the review of emails related to Mrs. Clinton’s server complete, and that Mr. Comey’s letter was intended to convey that.The NYT doesn't mention the Clinton Foundation. CBS News gives us this statement from Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus:
"None of this changes the fact that the FBI continues to investigate the Clinton Foundation for corruption involving her tenure as secretary of state.”
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Who will be our Sam Ervin?
Stay tuned...
@mezzrow, don't look for one in today's political class.
It means the White House has told the FBI - high and low - to fall in line or get fired.
Can there be any doubt that the Republic has been dead since 1/20/2009, when the FBI and DOJ fail to investigate and prevent any investigation of obvious crimes against we the people committed by a POTUS candidate?
Can there be any doubt that the Republic has ceased to exist when the putative POTUS actively encourages those who are not citizens and who are illegally in the US to vote?
The Republic died on 1/20/2009 with the installation of the Usurper Hussein Obama, non natural born son of a foreign father.
If we assume an average of a minute per email for an FBI agent to read, understand, and evaluate the contents of the communication, and assume that they worked solid eight hour days without cessation, in the past nine days, roughly 150 FBI agents could have read, understood, and evaluated all 650,000 emails, assuming they worked through the weekend instead of standing around the water cooler, muttering darkly. But what I am wondering is where is the SINGLE FBI agent of conscience, knocking on the door of a newspaper of record to report this or less sunny news?
mick, why so upset... i've been counting on your guarantee of trump landslide... i've been telling everyone i know that you said i could count on it... are you changing your tune now?
please say it aint so...
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The private email server was setup to run the Clinton Foundation and coordinate bribes.
If elected, the Foundation will bring her down.
A vote for Hillary is a vote for drama, strife, controversy and high media ratings.
Cute Ann. Your Althouse Hillbillies are regressing back to their Birther selves and other behaviors that make them worthy of being a Basket of Deplorables.
What does Althouse know and when did she know it?
Macht geht vor Recht: might makes right. The only currency now is power, who has it, how to get more, how to remove power from the adversary, at any and all levels of society. It is now law, not religion, which has become the opiate of the masses.
"Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both." It all depends on what the meaning of "or" is. Comey ignored the second prong and put himself in the position of prosecutor instead of simply referring the relevant evidence to DoJ. Once a lackey, always a lackey. Why change now?
Comey has studied the fate of Alberto Nisman and concluded he had better get back on the team.
He shot his bolt last summer outlining the evidence on Hillary without resigning his own position. He has concluded that she will win in spite of her corruption and he had better get back in line.
Coward. Still, would the "Saturday Night Massacre" have happened if Nixon was a Democrat ? I doubt it.
Johnson did worse. Far worse.
As the Chief of Police said in Jaws after spotting the Great White, I think we are gonna need a bigger boat. The Justice Department is gonna need a bigger FBI Director to kill the Monster Clinton Foundation Shark gorged on cash and blackmail power over its cabal of powerful politicians who practice of Thelema Cult Sex Majick.
The silly little lefties are prancing around, I see.
@Big Mike - Sam could only do what he did because he was on his way out the door, and he knew it. He had a lot to answer for in regard to his positions during the civil rights era, and he was savvy enough to see how it would benefit him to step up and be the man he could always have been, if not for the constraints of political reality in that earlier time. He did love and believe in the Constitution.
America gets people like that when it needs them, if you'll look at US History. I just hope our luck hasn't run out.
The Swedes have announced that they are interviewing Assange again about the stale rape accusations against him. Interesting timing.
While many of the emails were duplicates, the new emails:
1. Included sensitive/classified information/documents
2. On an unsecured device
3. In the possession of an individual without clearance
4. After the FBI had been told no such document existed
5. That included work emails that the FBI had not seen, despite there being even one new on this machine
If perjury, obstructing justice and hiding evidence from the FBI are now legal, so be it. Another thing we learned when this set of emails released is Clinton willfully and knowingly sent classified/sensitive information to her maid to have her print it. Just so you know, her maid does not have a clearance.
This is a farce, and if Clinton can get away with this, a lot of people in jail for mishandling classified information in significantly lesser ways better be getting pardons.
According to NPR's Morning Edition today (twice) it means Comey "cleared" Hillary Clinton.
But yeah, no bias in the Media.
Ridiculous.
I just wonder what is the point of having any laws in regards to classified information at all. If having your maid be given access to your secured computer and print out classified information isn't enough for to attempt an indictment --- then what is the threshold? "Not being a Clinton" seems like a dubious legal standard.
A GOP Congress' first thing should be to repeal all laws in regards to classified info. If "not knowing better" is now a justifiable defense, then why have them since everybody can claim they didn't know?
This is a farce, and if Clinton can get away with this, a lot of people in jail for mishandling classified information in significantly lesser ways better be getting pardons.
Those people aren't Clintons.
"If elected, the Foundation will bring her down."
-- No. If elected, it will become business as usual. We have her distributing classified information to her lawyers, her cleaning staff, lying to the FBI about it and destroying subpoenaed evidence -- and she's being given a pass. If elected, everyone isn't going to suddenly decide to oppose the most powerful person in the world, especially when they wouldn't do it when they had all the evidence they needed to do it BEFORE she was the most powerful person in the world.
Oso Negro said...
If we assume an average of a minute per email for an FBI agent to read, understand, and evaluate the contents of the communication, and assume that they worked solid eight hour days without cessation, in the past nine days, roughly 150 FBI agents could have read, understood, and evaluated all 650,000 emails
650,000 was the total number of emails, only ~50,000 of which were Clinton-server related. That drops the number of agents needed to about a dozen. Maybe 20-25 if they take the weekend off.
Also on whether they could review the emails: These emails were all digital, as opposed to what Clinton staff gave them initially, which was giant reams of unorganized papers that had to be manually sifted through.
[In other words: Perfectly possible to review all of these emails in the time allotted.]
Also on whether they could review the emails: These emails were all digital, as opposed to what Clinton staff gave them initially, which was giant reams of unorganized papers that had to be manually sifted through.
Which would mean they didn't review the digital versions. Because they were printed out for a reason.
I just hope our luck hasn't run out.
@mezzrow, if Hillary wins tomorrow, then it has.
As someone suggested yesterday, Comey woke up with a horse's head in his bed.
Yeah. The Weiner emails they rescued from a laptop before it could be hit with a hammer or bleachbit or whatever. Some of the other emails they also got before their hard drives mysteriously failed as top end laptops are known to do upon learning they've been the subject of subpoena.
But, a good chunk of the original Clinton emails were hard copy print outs, which is why it took so long at first.
Comey didn't clear Hillary in July. He said she broke the law, but couldn't find a prosecutor in the corrupt DOJ to take the case and pursue it.
dami, what do you care? As previously stated:
Also time to stop voting Republican. Let the country melt down. The justices Republicans nominate are, frequently, identical to Democrat judges anyway.
Let the country rot and die. Fuck the USA
6/25/15, 9:32 AM
Indeed, why are you still here? ok, you need a place to vent your daily frustrations.
Has either party ever elected a nominee who was under multiple FBI investigations, who has taken $200 million in bribes from foreign governments just prior to her nomination, whose best friends and staffers think she is "not right in the head" and "just thought she could get away with it," and whose closest confidantes and advisers have just pleaded the fifth under oath when asked about the things their candidate is doing?
No? Didn't think so.
I yield the balance of my time to shiloh. shiloh needs to provide the positive case for Hillary for President.
I am persuadable with just a single, unalloyed, positive reason to vote for Hillary.
"That drops the number of agents needed to about a dozen. Maybe 20-25 if they take the weekend off."
I suspect they just used a couple of search terms like "Secret" and ran the files through a word search. Nobody read any e-mails unless the search kicked them out. It's been a charade all along.
If Hillary wins, it all goes away.
If Trump wins, Hillary gets an Obama pardon but it will cost her. Probably about $100 million.
Also, Hillary might get that horses head with a Saudi return address.
Wherefore doth the way of the wicked prosper? wherefore are all they happy that deal very treacherously?
I love the way it took DOJ four years to review the emails for Judicial Watch's lawsuit but just four days for the FBI to "review" 650,000 emails. Heckuva job Jimmy!
This is not terribly surprising. The initial decision not to recommend indictment was based off a reasoning that, legally, does not actually exist and was created specifically to avoid indictment. It is not clear that anyone could ever be indicted under this standard, no matter how blatant the activities. It was evident on how he phrased things that Comey did not believe what he was peddling. There was no reason to believe that the results would be different the second time. I am only slightly surprised that they managed to process through the emails so quickly. Apparently, they can work quickly when properly inspired.
The fact that he re-opened the case at all was shocking in itself and it did a great deal of damage to Clinton's campaign when it seemed the election was over. For Trump supporters, this was more than they could have hoped. This follow-up announcement will probably do the Clinton campaign some good, but I doubt it will be more than marginal at this late date. Hillary's reputation is established as someone who is incredibly corrupt and dishonest. This is now only one of several scandals floating around now, and to bring up the subject just brings up the rest of the mess. Last minute "I am not a crook" ads are not going to help.
Regardless, the FBI's reputation has taken a massive hit. There is really no reason to trust it anymore. We are running out of government institutions that should be respected. This does not bode well. Who is going to play Marius and Sulla this time?
I'm Renfro Jeffries. Nazi And Proud Of It!
Do you get it? Do you get it now? The FBI ain't on your side, people. The Government ain't on your side. You are just a problem they haven't gotten around to yet...
Yeah, yeah: you think Nazis are still the Bad Guys. The Government is gladly letting in murderous gang-bangers from the South and batshit-crazy terrorists from Overseas, and you think someone who stands up for America is somehow the one to be shunned. You're so polite you'll probably tip the guy at the Cattle Car like he was a parking valet...
Go on: keep using Facebook and Google so the Government-Media-Cosmopolitan Complex knows who you are: you are not being entertained, you are being tracked. You are just data in the their Loss Column, and you will be written off the books, one way or another...
You are on the wrong side of the barbed wire, friends. Helter Skelter is coming, and it's coming with Cattle Cars: don't say I didn't tell you.
I'm Renfro Jeffries, Nazi And Proud Of It!
I am Laslo.
"positive reason to vote for Hillary."
Once upon a time in a land far, far away, she was a Goldwater girl ...
It means they got to Comey. He didn't want to end up in a landfill, so he backed off. He should just admit publicly that Lynch and Obama pushed him not to prosecute and force them to fire him. But that would take courage, something Comey lacks.
The fix is in. There's no denying it anymore. one las nail in the coffin for the rule of law. RIP.
For all the people the Clintons blackmail, you'd think somebody would blackmail them.
"He didn't want to end up in a landfill"
There's hyperbole and then there's Althouse cons.
I'm not sure I understand why "duplicates" is supposed to make a difference. If the material that's on there as a duplicate copy is sensitive or confidential matter then the fact that it's a duplicate doesn't make a difference--this would be an example of that material having been sent out "in the wild" to another unprotected/insecure machine, right?
The most I head was "no new classified emails." I guess I'm supposed to conclude that means "no classified emails" but given we're talking about a Clinton and a legal matter I sure as hell am not going to make any kind of assumption.
At this point, honestly, I'm surprised the Justice Dept. hasn't just given Weiner immunity already.
"Weiner immunity already."
ok, that sounds funny. btw, it's Weiner's weener that needs immunity.
Hah
And Obama thought Republicans were thwarting his every move.
He's got nothing on the first woman president. She better bring a bigger pen and phone.
So Shiloh wants you to vote for a woman who, by her own explanation for all this email stuff, is so incredibly incompetent, that she cannot recognize classified information. She wants to be the top classifier of information in the government--the president -- but she by her own admission does not know what is classified and what is not. The markings on a document mean nothing; after all, the President and Secretary of State positions are supposed to be positions where the person in them puts those markings on the documents.
Clinton's own words tell us she is completely incapable of doing so. And Shiloh says we should vote for her?
The other option, the "Not breathtakingly incompetent where the rawest recruit at Fort Dix could do a better job" is sheer evil, treason, corruption.
Which is it, Shiloh? Do you want us to vote for a traitor or someone too incompetent to tie her shoes? Those are the only options Hillary has given us for her.
--Vance
GWash said...
"mick, why so upset... i've been counting on your guarantee of trump landslide... i've been telling everyone i know that you said i could count on it... are you changing your tune now?
please say it aint so..."
GWash why not upset at the loss of the rule of law?
It will still be a Landslide for Trump.
"And Shiloh says we should vote for her?"
No, only said she was my choice.
As always, reading comprehension is the key.
Not to worry about the emails and Comey, there is good news. The stock market has predicted a Trump victory which might cause a couple more days of stocks selling off but then stocks will rally. I just heard it on CNBC so don't be a sucker and believe the polls, people lie to the pollsters for whatever their reasons. Remember Brexit!
Is it possible that the Clintons could end up departing the white house penniless a second time? Or have they figured that problem out?
Yet you mock those of us who do not want to vote for this person who is 1) Either the most corrupt, treasonous, despicable human being ever to seek the presidency or 2) The most incompetent, stupid, worthless, dangerous person to ever seek the presidency.
If you don't buy the corrupt bit, then you have to agree that Inspector Clouseau or Mr. Magoo would be better candidates for president than Hillary Clinton. Heck, Mr. Magoo would be light years better!
Why are you voting for Hillary: you really, really hate America, I presume, so that you want someone incapable of doing the job at all in there?
Or do you just want her to kill a few million Americans, either through incompetence or malice?
--Vance
I think that the way I would do it if under a time crunch, would be to search for "Hillary", "Clinton", or her email address, and compare what popped out to the emails they already had, eliminating those. And then look at what kicked out of the key word search, but were new. For this investigation, they were really only interested in the stuff that was deleted from Crooked Hillary's email account. Not in pay-for-play, or Carlos Danger pics of Weiner's weiner. Then, anything new had to be checked for classified material. I think that it is plausible that the FBI pulled off a credible job there. Of course, it would have been much easier if the Crooked Hillary people hadn't printed the emails out first before providing them to the courts and Congress. The printing of the emails out probably slowed them a bit, because otherwise they could have run the list kicked out by keywords against the old 30k list using a sorted list of unique email signatures or hashes, which would have been lightning fast (sorted list of the 30k email signatures or hashes would have required maybe 16 comparisons per email tested with a binary search - but might have been even faster if reversed).
Unless the polls are off, this ball game is over. Surprising there wasn't a "last weekend surprise" (the Comey statement doesn't count, as it came from the FBI and not one of the campaigns). Didn't anyone have last minute dumps to make? Disappointed!
And with this Comey stuff--still looking at e-mails, nope, done now, nothing doing--my confidence in the GOP investigating and prosecuting the Clintons is at a low ebb. For all their investigations they never could nail them, either through the criminal prosecutions or in the court of public opinion.
Toss 'em all out and bring in new blood. This gang is useless.
"It will still be a Landslide for Trump."
Sure, Jumpin' Jack Flash. Though if you're somehow right I'll be sure to give you credit and maybe attend your next tour.
I think Hillary wins this by 2-4 points, and the electoral college by Obama-esque margins. Then we can spend the next four years blaming each other for how this happened, and Trump can launch his TV empire and maybe even become a real billionaire again.
So it'll work out for someone!
And how much heat came down from Main Justice to get him to say even that much? Use of the word "cleared" seems highly inappropriate given what Comey actually said.
Blogger Ignorance is Bliss said...
Oso Negro said...
If we assume an average of a minute per email for an FBI agent to read, understand, and evaluate the contents of the communication, and assume that they worked solid eight hour days without cessation, in the past nine days, roughly 150 FBI agents could have read, understood, and evaluated all 650,000 emails
650,000 was the total number of emails, only ~50,000 of which were Clinton-server related. That drops the number of agents needed to about a dozen. Maybe 20-25 if they take the weekend off.
11/7/16, 8:35 AM
Disagree. Lets say you are caught by the narcotics police with ten bags in your car. Four of them are labeled "Cocaine". The rest are labeled "Other Stuff". Do you assume the narcotics police look in the four bags labeled "Cocaine" and ignore the rest? Given today's FBI, maybe such an assumption is warranted.
Vance, I think shiloh is operating at the brain stem level. Say "Democrat" and he/she jerks a knee and votes.
I think the real threat to Hillary is the Democrat who will not vote for her because of the lying and corruption.
It is a truism that Republicans think Democrats are stupid and Democrats think Republicans are evil. I think it was Krauthammer who said that. Democrats, the honest ones, are weak on economics and history but some still have a sense of honesty and honor. They will vote for Jill Stein and voted for Bernie in the primaries. They may vote for down ballot Democrats but vote for Stein or nobody at the president spot. I think I know a couple.
Whitewash. Nothing to see here. Move along, citizen.
Everyone except ole' Mick:
Predictions on tomorrow's outcome?
It'll be an interesting day either way!
Why can you ignore duplicates? Because the question here is what did Crooked Hillary do, and not what did Huma and Weiner do. She is the one running for President. What the real interest is is in the 30k emails that Clinton's stable of enablers and attorneys illegally deleted. Were there any smoking guns there? And maybe to see if there were any classified material in the deleted 30k emails - though it probably should have included the question of whether a Records Act violation occurred when her people deleted those 30k emails (which would have been the case if any had been work related, which, of course, they were, but we already knew that).
The farce at the FBI certainly does nothing to reassure the average American. It is truly sad how low our standards have sunk. Of course, where politics is concerned, during the life of the Republic, if there have been standards at all they have always been very low.
@dreams, the stock market is tumbling because Yellen is going to have to raise interest rates next month. The rates should have been raised a while ago but -- Trump is quite right about this -- she held off because the anticipated economic impact might have driven voters to the GOP.
Just read that Terry McAuliffe used his autopen to pardon 60,000 felons in Virginia to restore their voting rights before the registration deadline, about five times as many as he admitted to doing. The felons also go postpaid return envelopes, which other voters did not.
And yes, felons are a natural Hillary constituency. Birds of a feather flock together.
Clyde said...
Just read that Terry McAuliffe used his autopen to pardon 60,000 felons in Virginia to restore their voting rights before the registration deadline
What does it say about the Democrat party when they feel they can get a majority of the convicted felon vote? Good stuff...
"can get a majority of the convicted felon vote?"
Dems have a big tent!
We know a few things:
1) The former Secretary of State and possible/probably next President of the United States mishandled classified information for personal benefit.
2) The current President of the Unites States could give a rats ass about it, and was probably in on it...
3) All Democrats in Washington DC don't care
4) Their voters and supporters don't care
5) The department of Justice doesn't care and is running interference
6) And the FBI is about as competent in handling the investigation into these matters as the former Secretary of State who screwed it all up in the first place.
shiloh said..."can get a majority of the convicted felon vote?"
Dems have a big tent!
You made me chuckle, shiloh, that's a first. Thanks.
Would that be the same Terry McAuliffe who gave half a million dollars to the campaign of the wife of the chief FBI investigator of Hillary's criminal mishandling of classified information? Why yes it would!
Why didn't he recuse himself? Well, his wife was given the money before the investigation, so it was OK. Swear to God, that was their spin.
Why was it OK for Hillary's mole in the Justice Department to tip Hillary off to the investigation so that she could start deleting emails? Well "He did it on his own time!"
This election is the event horizon of a crash into a completely corrupt national government. This corruption will spread down to the states, a fish rotting from the head. There is really no other responsible vote than a vote for Trump.
Even if you like what the corrupt people seem to be offering, remember that they will be under no obligation to take your views into account in the future, when democracy has been utterly steamrollered, and the levers of the machine fall into the hands of people motivated solely by power and money, as happened to so many communist regimes, who started off with the loftiest intentions as well, and they ended up in Hell. Venzuela is in Hell now. It is the way.
Follow the $$$ ...
"You made me chuckle, shiloh, that's a first. Thanks."
You're welcome!
shiloh said...
No, only said she was my choice.
If I had done what Hillary did while I had my TS/SCI I would be in jail for life. There are dozens of service members in jail for having some pictures of themselves on their personal computers in places they shouldn't have taken pictures.
You have to be depraved and wholly disgusting to support Hillary Clinton. You have to support an end to equal justice under the law.
Some times the Right thing to do is illegal. If Hillary Clinton becomes president it is morally incumbent for any decent human being to resist.
Can someone explain how it goes mostly unoticed that our current president is publicly telling non citizens that its fine for them to vote?
That seems treasonous to me. What am I missing on this?
Shilo is as proud of every hundred million dollars the Clintons have made selling out democracy as if he had earned them himself!
harrogate said...
Predictions on tomorrow's outcome?
Clinton, 298 - 240. That's the optimistic take I think.
I'd believe anything up to Clinton 336 - 202 though.
It would not hurt my feelings to be wrong (in the right way).
You have to support an end to equal justice under the law.
Shilo supports equal justice for every dollar! Of course if you have billions of them, it might seem problematic as far as equal justice to individuals, at least to lesser thinkers that shiloh
Had a session with my personal trainer today at the gym. We had never discussed politics before, but someone had MSNBC on on a treadmill and they were talking about the FBI letter. Her reaction? Look how fucking corrupt she is!
Where are the progressives complaint's he's trying to effect the election?
"2) The current President of the Unites States could give a rats ass about it, and was probably in on it..."
-- We know he was. Abedin provided him updates whenever Clinton's email changed over the years on the private server so his equipment could be updated to accept emails from the secret server that normally would've been prevented from reaching his devices since, you know, illegal secret server.
He also corresponded with Clinton using a pseudonym on the illegal, secret server.
You know, Achilles: It's an important discussion as to when resisting the Democrat's fascist state becomes necessary: I mean violent resistance.
George, Ben, Tom and the boys certainly took up arms against the King at far less provocations than we have. On the other hand, they also had no illusions about Parliament listening to them--ever.
I don't think it's right to fight Hillary.... until such point as there is no hope of Congress or the Courts reigning her in, or they do and she ignores it.
At what point, though, do we conclude there is no such hope? After all, the boston tea party was about no taxation without representation. Do we have representation anymore?
--Vance
Shorter Comey: Please don't kill me.
"It is a truism that Republicans think Democrats are stupid and Democrats think Republicans are evil."
This isn't quite true. We think Republicans are pretty stupid, too.
WikiLeaks Show Washington Post Writer Asked DNC For Anti-Trump Research
But you can trust everything you read in the newspapers. Liberal bias is only a shade wandering the right wing fever swamps.
This isn't quite true. We think Republicans are pretty stupid, too.
Oddly though, whenever given the opportunity to prove it through open debate, you decline. Almost as if you don't really want to know the truth, which is that you have been played for fools by people who are in it only for power and money.
I think it is convenient that we have all the lefties, or most of them, located in a few coastal big cities which might be targets when Hillary decides some mullah insulted her and is drunk enough to retaliate.
See how convenient that is ?
Comey's in lose-lose mode from the beginning of this. The FBI director is simply supposed to provide information to DOJ and DOJ is supposed to decide on prosecution but Lynch deferred to him because Bill Clinton had an inappropriate chat with her in the heat of this so she had to recuse herself, then Comey had info that more e-mails were being investigated and if he announced this at the time (which he did) the Dems would blame him for affecting the election but if he'd waited a few weeks to announce it the GOP would blame him for holding back to help Hillary, and the whole thing is a mess for him because the Clintons cannot stop being shady. He'll be gone in the new year, but we're in for years of this crap.
I expect the GOP to spend years and millions conducing BS hearings and investigations that'll be about as effective as Benghazi, giving the Clintons the chance to say it's all a bunch of nothing, as they keep hiding their crimes in plain sight.
If I ever had to pick my own enemy I'd pick the GOP--they can't help but bungle everything. Disgust!
"This isn't quite true. We think Republicans are pretty stupid, too.
11/7/16, 9:57 AM"
Another blank profile. How is the pay ? Minimum wage ?
I don't think it's right to fight Hillary.
Hillary is just a figurehead. She is not very bright, but she is venal, so she can be controlled. Plus she has a vagina, which they needed in a figurehead this time, kind of like they used to carve women into the prow of ships.
Obama encourages illegals to vote."
CNN and DNC colluded.
WAPO and DNC colluded.
Beoing bribed Clinton for favors.
Clinton paying off bribes to Honeywell and Blackstone.
""This isn't quite true. We think Republicans are pretty stupid, too.
11/7/16, 9:57 AM"
Another blank profile. How is the pay ? Minimum wage ?"
MK, you nasty dinosaur, good news as the day after the election is (2) days away and then you can start posting at Althouse again.
Oh wait!
"Another blank profile. How is the pay ? Minimum wage ?"
Damn. Exposed by another "smart" Republican. Grrr.
Maybe we should give presidents stock options in America or something, so that even democrat presidents have an incentive to bargain on America's side.
I believe this election will be very close and Hillary is only a 60-40 favorite.
Brando and the rest of the Chucksters hope it is not so close. They want a costless protest vote against the hoi polloi and are invested in a future of "I told you so" bull shit.
Leviathan hates you too, Brando. You cannot appease Leviathan.
As for predictions, I think Hillary will win.
After all, the Muslims want to kill the Jews, and the only country that might help Israel is the US.... under a Republican President.
Hillary would happily sent US troops in on the side of the Palestinians... probably volunteer to feed the rape and murder brigades, too.
Shiloh, despite having a Jewish name, is a Democrat and thus the thought of another holocaust of the Jews, aided and abetted by her party, makes Shiloh have to go lie down and quiver in ecstasy at the very thought.
--Vance
The rule is that if an election is close, the democrats win.
Repubs have to have a margin beyond what fraud can fix in order to win.
Has anyone ever transitioned from noble, stalwart hero, to despicable turncoat, back to rock solid lawman (or reverse that order) than Comey in such a short span of time?
"Shiloh, despite having a Jewish name"
After Shiloh, the South never smiled!
Damn. Exposed by another "smart" Republican. Grrr. - Remorse
What's it like to support a candidate who took tens of millions of dollars from the Russians, handed over a large portion of our uranium supply to Putin's control, and then accused her opponent of being a pawn of Putin without evidence?
Do you think that's pretty smart?
But I am sure if I were a Hillary supporter, remorse would be one of my primary emotions.
Really Shiloh? You have no idea that Shiloh is a place name in the Bible, a place where the Ark of the Covenant was kept for many years? One of the most holiest places on earth?
Where exactly do you think the got that name in the South?
Still, I note you don't dispute the idea you want another Jewish holocaust and that a vote for Hillary is a large step in that direction.
--Vance
Obviously the proper threats and bribes have been made. So with that bit of unpleasantness behind them and with just enough of the population terrified and/or repulsed by the other guy, it should be smooth sailing for the Dems to install their decadent queen. And then at last the full nightmare can begin. Graft will be conducted on a galactic scale. Forget a banana republic, the United States will be a full on kleptocracy.
"You have no idea that Shiloh is a place name in the Bible"
Again, reading comprehension is the key!
One of the most holiest places on earth
That must be a gotcha aimed at some other era.
"Brando and the rest of the Chucksters hope it is not so close. They want a costless protest vote against the hoi polloi and are invested in a future of "I told you so" bull shit."
I've expected it to be close, as noted above, but I couldn't care less if it's close. The winner won't get a mandate when their margin of victory is people voting not for them but against the opponent.
And the pleasure of saying "I told you so" to a bunch of commenters on the Internet who I don't know personally is hardly worth watching this country spend four to eight years in the rut. But if it makes you feel better to imagine me enjoying myself, at least you have that.
"Shiloh, despite having a Jewish name"
So does David Duke.
"Do you think that's pretty smart?"
I think it's pretty smart to vote against Donald Trump no matter what your party.
Mecca is the holiest place on earth at the moment. The guys with the pipe bombs set the rules.
Advocating for probation, Hogan said it would be "unjust and unfair" for Saucier -- who has pleaded guilty -- to do prison time "for a crime those more powerful than him will likely avoid."
Sailor goes to jail for over 5 years for 6 pictures.
The former secretary of state has said she did not knowingly send or receive emails that were classified, while Saucier has admitted knowing his conduct was illegal.
All the sailor had to do was lie about his knowledge like Hillary did right? It had nothing to do with power and wealth.
Anyone who supports Hillary Clinton is an enemy of freedom and an enemy of the veterans and current armed service members of this country. We will resist.
Also any lands with indian arrowheads on them are holy.
Indeed, why are you still here?
To read your inspired genius. Figure it will happen eventually and I want to be here for the one time it happens. You're due, after all, to make a cogent point or witty comment once.
Once upon a time in a land far, far away, she was a Goldwater girl ...
You know, the only evidence we have of this is her word. And her word couldn't possibly mean less.
Indian arrowhead seeding is a popular way of changing environmental zoning.
It occurs to me that a lot of Democrats already have Clinton fatigue and won't even bother to vote. This is a change election and Trump has the momentum despite Comey's repeat failure to man up.
Fort Marcy Park would be holy today if Vince Foster were an Indian.
Shiloh Shepherd
Also a dog breed = SFW
Hillary has angular momentum. Push her and she precesses.
On the other hand she doesn't fall over any more.
"Anyone who supports Hillary Clinton is an enemy of freedom and an enemy of the veterans and current armed service members of this country."
Fuck you. You speak for no one but yourself and a handful of Alex Jones nutjobs.
I shouldn't take your trollbait. It's pretty evident you're ready to crack.
I think it's pretty smart to vote against Donald Trump no matter what your party. - Remorse
So basically no answer then. I don't blame you. It's one thing to taunt the other side with how you guys have the billionaires pretty much locked up, it's another thing to defend Hillary herself, isn't it?
"Fuck you."
Remorse go easy on Achilles 'cause several mos. ago he was practically in tears re: the thought of Hillary becoming president.
He's a very fragile Althouse con ...
Comey will resign after the election. Neither Dems nor the GOP have confidence in him. I would like him to stay on since he has alienated members of both parties.
All Remorse has to do is read the accounts of how Hillary treated the veterans, secret service people, and military members while she was in the white house.
There is ample evidence that shows she hates veterans and armed service members. You are blind, willfully so.
She did zero to help the Benghazi troops. At best she did zero. More likely, she ordered them left for dead. But even if you dispute that, you cannot dispute that she lied through her teeth to their widows and families, over their dead bodies.
She supports Obama's gutting of the US military: fully and enthusiastically she supports it. She supports the VA killing veterans; and wants to spread that to the rest of the country.
Remorse, you should look at your username and apply it to your support of the fascist in every sense of the word Hillary Clinton.
--Vance
Another blank profile here, for obvious reasons: I have nothing to promote here and, besides, it's none of your fucking business.
Be that as it may, if Trump pulls this out, and things are indeed close enough that he might, it will be because of the dogs that didn't bark in the night: blacks who don't want to feel like Hillary's house Negroes; Bernie supporters who feel completely betrayed, marginally more so by Hillary; women who are more familiar with men than they are with ideological sisterhoods of women; and every hominid who can distinguish between illegal deeds and unpleasant words.
That's not to say that Hillary won't win: moral laziness is the default human position, from not voting at all - the majority - to the next best thing, voting for the candidate deemed safest and the easiest way out on FaceBook, around the water cooler, and around the Thanksgiving table. Pass the buck, let someone else solve any Hillary problems.
Again, this recently defective Blogger site, unlike other, is still throwing Error 400s.
She wants to gut the military while at the same time making war with bombs and missiles. It's in her Goldman Sachs speech. "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran!" - HRC (OK, I paraphrase) Call me on it, will get the speech for you.
Fuck your fucking fuck.
You'd think that wouldn't make sense.
As far as an enemy of freedom: Hillary has promised to gut most of the Bill of Rights.
The 1st Amendment: She wants to overturn Citizens United, which was a case saying the government couldn't jail you for criticizing Hillary Clinton. Hillary wants that reversed. She attacks the freedom of the press to disagree with her. She attacks religion, saying they must be forced to change their doctrines that disagree with her moral views. And also with her Citizen's united case, she wants to gut the freedom to assemble and also petition the government.
Her views on the 2nd amendment are well known, and she has vowed to strike as much as possible from it.
Freedom from search and seizure? Please. Right to an attorney? Ask any college campus male if they get that right or a right to a jury when some crazed feminist starts claiming "Rape!" Hillary is on record as wanting to move that to all of the US.
With hillary, there are no freedoms left. Oh, sure... we'll still have a nice constitution. Just like the Soviet Union had a great constitution. Funny how there was no freedom, though..........
--Vance
There are people who are for Hillary and then there are people who are against Trump.
So the problem for the US and the
Europeans has been from the very beginning: What
is it you -- who is it you are going to try to arm? - HRC
That's how she views a civil war in a sovereign country. Whom do we arm? Later on she goes on to reject the "we should stay out of it" argument.
I would be pretty remorseful too if I supported a war monger whose military adventures in North Africa and Syria have led to a flow of refugees so large it is destabilizing the EU.
There are people who are for Hillary and then there are people who are against Trump.
Almost everything you have learned about Trump, you have learned through the lens of a rabidly pro-Hillary press. You should take some time to look into Wikileaks so you can really enjoy your buyers remorse, should she win, which is not a sure thing, despite the babblings of shiloh the troll.
"Almost everything you have learned about Trump, you have learned through the lens of a rabidly pro-Hillary press. You should take some time to..."
Thanks for timsplaining that to me.
Trump is there to clean the Augean stables, which is job one.
Too bad if women aren't stroked the way they always nag for.
If the US collapses, who is Mexico going to sell drugs to?
I don't think the Democrats give a rat's ass about Citizens United anymore. That was just boob bait. They have the tech billionaires who want the cheap imported labor and their monopolies protected locked up. If you are a multi multi billionaire, you want somebody in charge who can clearly be bought. Hillary is their girl. That's why Sanders had to be "crushed into a pulp."
At what point, though, do we conclude there is no such hope? After all, the boston tea party was about no taxation without representation. Do we have representation anymore?
--Vance
Obama sends illegals to the polls.
Hillary protester has dead grandmother and California brother registered and voting at his Reno address.
Trump is clearly ahead in unbiased polls, enthusiasm, and is clearly going to win among legal voters.
They are sending in millions of illegal votes.
I don't know who is going to win but it is clear who American Citizens want. Do we have representation? Not after this election.
Illegal border crossings at record pace in 2016.
This is the last peaceful opportunity to save our country. Cowards like Brando will always find a way not to fight. 2020 will have another candidate the media will turn into Hitler and there will be 20 more illegal voters who didn't face repercussions in 2016. Hillary will turn the rule of law on it's head.
Thanks for timsplaining that to me
I know. Critical thinking is hard. Most people can't do it. Don't be ashamed.
Remorse said...
"Anyone who supports Hillary Clinton is an enemy of freedom and an enemy of the veterans and current armed service members of this country."
Fuck you. You speak for no one but yourself and a handful of Alex Jones nutjobs.
If I did what Hillary did I would be in jail for life. There are dozens of service members in jail for less that what she did. You support her. You are our enemy and you have flushed your soul down a toilet. Eat shit and ____. We will see you people on the battlefield.
Sure, Brando.
Out on a limb predictions:
Under President Hillary... the Bill of Rights will be emasculated.
...the military will be downsized further.
...inflation will rise in the things people buy.
...joblessness will increase.
...illegals will displace even more American workers.
...population growth will outstrip GDP growth.
...debt will increase unchecked.
...Senate Democrats will destroy the filibuster completely.
...Wealth will be consolidated further.
...monopolization of industry will continue, abetted by federal law.
...the IRS will be irreparably weaponized.
"If I did what Hillary did I would be in jail for life. There are dozens of service members in jail for less that what she did. You support her. You are our enemy and you have flushed your soul down a toilet. Eat shit and ____. We will see you people on the battlefield."
Get some help. You are exactly one of those who "If you see something, say something" was intended to cover.
shiloh said...
"Fuck you."
Remorse go easy on Achilles 'cause several mos. ago he was practically in tears re: the thought of Hillary becoming president.
He's a very fragile Althouse con ...
You are juvenile as well as disingenuous ARM.
I do not look forward to what we will have to do. None of us really do. But we do what we have to do. I may cry before it starts, but I wont cry when the blade falls.
Remorse said...
Get some help. You are exactly one of those who "If you see something, say something" was intended to cover.
You are really, really stupid.
It will be interesting if Crooked Hillary is elected. Obama has seemingly given more support to Shia Islam, than the majority Sunni variant, esp in terms of Iran. The Russians, for their own personal reasons are doing the same. But, Crooked Hillary has been bought and paid for by the fundamental Sunnis from Saudi Arabia, and, esp, the Gulf Coast. Which is why I suspect that the Arab Spring was more her creation than his - she pushed Huma's Muslim Brotherhood into power (for a short time) in Egypt, deposed the somewhat secular Quidaffi, and took the Sunni side in Syria. Imagine that, her closest aide, if she is elected, having close ties, even to this day (with her mother and bros), with the Muslim Brotherhood, the parent organization for al Quada and ISIS, and still officially considered a terrorist organization by our govt. someone who probably shouldn't have ever had a security clearance in the first place.
I tell my Jewish friends who support Israel, that the worst thing that they can do for the continued existence of that is to vote for Crooked Hillary. Doesn't matter, since they have it on good authority that Trump is sexist, racist, homophobic, and now anti Semitic (despite have a daughter convert to Judaism, etc).
It is common knowledge by now that the Dept. of Justice is hopelessly corrupted. As a former prosecutor I am saddened to see the same is apparently true for the FBI. Mrs. Clinton clearly violated at least two provisions of the US Code with her private email server. If she is elected the corruption of these agencies guarantees a lawless regime. Congress has no power and the Courts are packed with compliant Democrats.
The United States is a Banana Republic. The Democrats are the United Fruit Company.
If the US collapses, who is Mexico going to sell drugs to?
There was just a remarkable segment on The Texas Standard, an NPR consortium show, with a Mexican journalist detailing just how bad a Trump victory would be for Mexico:
- if Trump's deportation plan were to occur, Mexico would need to create at least 2 million new jobs overnight
- at U.S., not Mexican, wages, or face backlash
- remittances, Mexico's largest source of revenue, would likewise plummet
- NAFTA
- etc.
Worse than America's opiod dependency on Third World labor is Mexico's opiod dependency on America's opiod dependency on Third World labor.
Unknown: "Which is it, Shiloh? Do you want us to vote for a traitor or someone too incompetent to tie her shoes?"
You forgot "criminal" and "grifter." Even if you hadn't, it is a waste of time to try to engage lefties on this level.
I have a dog named Shiloh (really). Sometimes he pisses on the floor. He knows it's wrong and the instant I find it he runs out the dog door. He also knows there are consequence because I scold him and lock him out of the house. Nevertheless, sometimes he pisses on the floor. He doesn't care that it's wrong or that there are consequences.
Lefties are the same.
Fuck you. You speak for no one but yourself and a handful of Alex Jones nutjobs.
No. He's correct. Hillary voters are opponents of freedom. And that she is looking to start a World War over Syria, they hate troops as well. Congrats on that.
"Not being a Clinton" seems like a dubious legal standard.
Yes, it is, but it seems to be one that's standing the test of time.
Means the FBI had a chance to read some of the personal emails that Clinton's lawyers deleted and found nothing of importance.
Well, at least the rules have been cleared up. You can't share classified information with your mistress, but you can share it with your maid.
"You can't share classified information with your mistress, but you can share it with your maid."
-- Or your lawyers. Or your daughter. Or the guy you were specifically told you couldn't hire and give information to.
"Almost everything you have learned about Trump, you have learned through the lens of a rabidly pro-Hillary press."
Tim, I wish that single, brilliant observation could penetrate the skulls of so many who "know" Trump.
I tell my Jewish friends who support Israel, that the worst thing that they can do for the continued existence of that is to vote for Crooked Hillary. Doesn't matter, since they have it on good authority that Trump is sexist, racist, homophobic, and now anti Semitic (despite have a daughter convert to Judaism, etc).
Try explaining that to Claire Berlinski over at Ricochet, where she has joined the Hillary train.
"Remorse said..."
Hillary troll with blank profile.
harrogate said...
Everyone except ole' Mick:
Predictions on tomorrow's outcome?
It'll be an interesting day either way!
LANDSLIDE TRUMP! There is no enthusiasm for the Crooked Old Lady. The polls are a lie--- Over-sampled "D Team", under-sampled "R Team" and INDEPENDENTS.
Trump rallies are 10-20K rock concerts. HRC's are >500 sleep fests covering their ears to protect from the Crooked Old Lady Screaching and Coughing.
15-20% Blacks (unheard of) will vote for Trump.
The Silent majority will be unleashed on election day at 85% TRUMP.
LANDSLIDE.
If by chance the Crooked Old Lady is able to overcome the landslide by cheating (doubtful) Trump can challenge her using 18 US Code 2071 in the DC District Court.
And just to make sure you "R Team" members are paying attention, have you seen any
"R" Congressman attack HRC or the Dems for allowing such a proven criminal to run for POTUS?
"State Department officials asked a federal court Monday to consider allowing them up to five years for their review of 31,000 pages of emails recovered by the FBI during its year-long investigation of Hillary Clinton."
They should just give it to the FBI. At the current rate, the FBI could maybe have it done by dinner.
Like the overly narrow investigation, in which Comey used an overly narrow standard, the latest obstruction effort by Comey really does not address the forest of criminality by the Clinton machine.
OMENS for Trump victory:
Cubs winning the World Series--- first time since 1908, when America was America (pre Federal Reserve Act, Pre 16th and 17th Amendment)
Cubs-- Indians World Series match-up---- ultimate outsiders
Janet Reno Death--- the DOJ dyke murderer at Waco, sent Elian back to Cuba against the wishes of the Miami Cuban Community.
The Crooked Old Lady cancelled her "victory" fireworks display.
Hahahahaha, Mick never fails to amuse. Omens, oh hahahahahaha! Hey Mick, Trump will win in a landslide! Hahahahaha!
Unknown said...
Hahahahaha, Mick never fails to amuse. Omens, oh hahahahahaha! Hey Mick, Trump will win in a landslide! Hahahahaha!
Republicans lead early voting in Colorado.
Want to guess how well republicans usually do in early voting?
According to Drudge, Trump is outperforming in Florida, North Carolina, and believe it or not, Colorado and New Mexico. If he's ahead in New Mexico then how is he not going to take PA MN MI or WI?
He's not crazy, he's no jerkier than average - say half the posters here - he has a long string of successes in his background, where not only does he make money but his partners make money his workers make money and his customers get wonderful houses. He contributes. What has Hillary Clinton ever contributed in her life?
He can do this. We can do this! Everybody on the fence needs to get off the fence. Now is the time and I think Rs are coming home.
If everybody who wants Hillary to lose votes for Donald Trump, Hillary will lose.
Strike a blow for freedom! Even if you're in a safe state (like CO or NM!), you still have the opportunity to punish her for all her crimes. This is your one chance to stand against evil. What is "we came, we saw, he died!" if not evil? Tell me that's not worse than anything that Trump has ever said or has been accused of saying.
You get one shot. Make it count.
I have also noticed that Hillary's rallies are poorly attended. Trump's rallies are turning away people from significant venues. I think the preference cascade has begun.
"According to Drudge..." hahahahahahahah!
Unknown said...
"Hahahahaha, Mick never fails to amuse. Omens, oh hahahahahaha! Hey Mick, Trump will win in a landslide! Hahahahaha!"
So why would the Crooked Old Lady want to cancel her "victory" fireworks display?
Mick wins the pair of brass balls award.
I too think that Trump will win the legal vote but I also think that Hillary will win the alfranken vote. In this election I believe that there has been distributed cheating. In other words in the last elections the cheating occurred in minority precincts - those which went 93% of registered voters for Obama. But in precincts with unpurged voter rolls and voters who move frequently this is not possible. Those are characteristics of minority precincts. So now we get distributed cheating. In Indiana it has been shown in 57 counties that voters whose names resembled legitimate voters were being added to the rolls. And I believe that Chicago Democratic party rotters are fanning out through the MidWest travelling in cars with appropriate state licenses to vote those falsely registered voters in early voting. That is what Scott Fovell meant by "we've been doing this for fifty years and you won't stop us. We use cars now, not buses."
This is like a conspiracy theory - but it could be checked unlike some theories. All we have to do is check the people on the voters lists 2016. The Republican party should pay for people to get the lists for their area - town, precinct, whatever. A group checks for false registrations - 29 people at one address, 29 people with almost the same name, and then how many legitimately are on the rolls as compared to how many voted. About like that. In Wisconsin nobody in power including the election board is checking to see what Fovell meant or did. So the people have to do it. But we could. And if no conspiracy, OK, the election is legitimate - that would be good to know. No matter how we then feel.
All I can say is that I am glad she canceled that display. It was dictatoresque.
If she does win, which is still a big if, I wonder if the press turns on her, once Trump has been defeated, or do they still cover for her? I guess the tell will be on whether Dave Chapelle keeps his gig on SNL this weekend.
It's all going to hinge on how massive the vote fraud will be. The left has been especially emboldened in their thuggishness this year, so it seems like anything is possible, including outright election theft, what with the media being totally in the tank.
I wonder if the press turns on her, once Trump has been defeated
In our dreams.
He's gone. He's a party hack. His job as an investigator was to recommend prosecution or not; not to express his opinion on the candidate. His Weiner announcement, coming closely to the election, was another breach of ethics. His opinions on the effect of concerns over police killings of blacks on the willingness of police to do their jobs were gratuitous and inappropriate. He's gone, no matter who wins the election, ten year term notwithstanding. He's gone.
Blogger Matthew Sablan said
If perjury, obstructing justice and hiding evidence from the FBI are now legal, so be it.
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Oh no you don't. You can't extrapolate those privileges down to the "little people". Well..maybe the ones in Ferguson who weren't prosecuted for perjury because Social Justice.
American Liberal Elite, what do you know?
As Andy Mcarthy mentioned, There is no requirement that you need to prove intent to prove that there was gross negligence.
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/07/06/andrew-mccarthy-fbi-rewrote-the-statute-to-give-hillary-clinton-a-pass/
Though, if you are cognizant of the fact that you are setting up a server and know that you arent supposed to, I dont see how you haven't also proved intent. the intent was to break the law. Its proven by fact that you have set up the server.
Then it comes out that Hillary gave her maid classified info to print. The maid. If the maid doesnt have a security clearance that is a crime. how could you not know that the person you were telling to print out the documents didn't have a security clearance?
And why didn't comey convene a grand jury in the first place? he shouldn't have made the determination at all. This whole case stinks to high heaven and its so obvious that they buried it.
If she does win, which is still a big if, I wonder if the press turns on her, once Trump has been defeated, or do they still cover for her?
They never turned on the Clintons except for the last 2 or 3 days of Bill's presidency when they noticed he was a touch sleazy.
That quickly passed.
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