I originally wrote about it here. The cover shows lots of male candidates getting ready in a locker room and Hillary Clinton looking in from the other side of the door. Donald Trump is not in the picture at all, but it would be Donald Trump who, weeks before the election, would get in trouble for something he and his supporters would try to pass off as "locker room talk."
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And in the Trump movie, Hillary walks in the locker room and surprises everyone by standing next to Scott Walker at a urinal and pees standing up.
Who the hell cares about locker room talk when WikiLeaks is a nuclear bomb going off and the MSM is trying to avoid it because they are soooooooooo deep in Hillary's a@$hole, they can't see anything else?
The drawing is of the locker room at Trump National Golf Course. Trump has his own private locker room there.
America is not ready for a woman president who can't get into a van without a nurse.
No Ben Carson?
New Yorker is racist.
Gusty Winds - (lol)
So which of these guys is bragging that he can kiss and put his hands on a woman without her permission or consent because he's a star and he can do anything? Ya know, locker room talk...
You say he got in trouble weeks before the election. I say your timing is off. My cousin, a missionary in Africa, announced last night on Facebook that she already voted. She proclaimed quite proudly that she didnt vote for either Trump or Hillary. One vote gone for Trump, since she is normally a Republican voter.
The video was times perfectly. The media is playing us. Days or hours before early voting starts? Damning video of Trump released.
At the end of your presidency?
Damning video of Obama release.
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/10/12/cnn-sitting-on-obama-erection-video-since-2008/
We are so being played.
This lewd display by Obama will never see the light of day -- the mainstream media's light, anyway.
https://news.grabien.com/story.php?id=729
Pro-Choice is a behavior, not orientation. Vive la sexual revolucion!
Trump is Hillary's Reichstag Fire, and she has an army of Goebbels' to help her.
The Argumentum ad Hitlerum can point both ways.
Just goes to show you that pundits are way overpaid.
There is a surprising lack of privacy in the men's chamber. However, she is not looking in, she is looking out. Whether it is [class] diversity, selective exclusion, social justice adventurism, immigration reform, progressive wars, trickle-up poverty, scientific mysticism, or abortion rites, the climate in the abortion chambers is stifling.
sy1492 said...
Who the hell cares about locker room talk when WikiLeaks is a nuclear bomb going off and the MSM is trying to avoid it because they are soooooooooo deep in Hillary's a@$hole, they can't see anything else?
Maybe Wikileaks should rename the releases "PussyLeaks" and everyone would take them more seriously.
Ann is just using selective cognitive acceptance to justify what she wants to believe. Women lie to themselves all of the time.
I appreciate the blog and Ann is smart in many ways. But sometimes we all take a common wrong turn.
I haven't even seen Ann parse Trump's actual quote. She always puts up the CNN version with 2 words of his and a bunch of added garbage.
"...he and his supporters would try to pass off as 'locker room talk.'."
Try to pass off? Oh please. It IS locker room talk. How you and the voting public feel about it is a separate and legitimate matter. But to pretend that this is somehow so exceptional as to be beyond the pale of even locker rooms is opportunistic pearl clutching
Althouse: '...Donald Trump who, weeks before the election, would get in trouble for something he and his supporters would try to pass off as "locker room talk."'
How silly of Trump supporters not to notice that in the Pussy Nation "locker room talk" has disappeared down the same hole as "campus free speech," "the lady's room," "manliness" and other outmoded concepts.
Similarly, "pussy grabbing" has displaced "Russian saber rattling," "government corruption," "the economy," "Obamacare" and other unimportant matter as election issues.
Pussies abide. The Dude does not.
Note that Trump owned up to his comment and apologized, but Hillary hasn't admitted to denigrating and attacking her husband's rape accusers, for lying under oath, for lying about Benghazi, being under fire.... (The list is really long.)
JBW said...
"So which of these guys is bragging that he can kiss and put his hands on a woman without her permission...."
"Without her permission?" What is it about "they'll let you do it" that you don't understand, HillTroll?
So, if a woman admires a male's butt and says something to the effect of "I'd like to grab that." Is that not the same thing as what Trump said? Is the issue here what he said or that he used the word "Pussy."
(As an aside, I recently read an article by a male stripper, who often accompanies female strippers to act as a bouncer. He said that most bachelorette parties are far raunchier than bachelor parties and that women says things that shock even him.)
Ann Althouse:
"Donald Trump is not in the picture at all, but it would be Donald Trump who, weeks before the election, would get in trouble for something he and his supporters would try to pass off as "locker room talk."
Your posts on this topic are pure troll. It is dishonest and disrespectful. You are way out of bounds here. You are lying about what he said and what it means. I was trying to give you a break because you are a woman but it is not fair to women to expect less from them than men.
You are dishonoring yourself.
would try to pass off as "locker room talk.
Right. But then the same locker room talk from a Russian Diplomat makes Christiane Amanpour giggle like a school girl.
And I love how Lavrov totally made a comment and then pretended he didn't by saying he prefers not to comment. That's one was a Trump move.
It's been pussy, pussy, pussy since Saturday. We're going on five six days now. And its the women in the media that can't stop talking about pussy. Even our esteemed blog host, pretending to be above it all. Anderson Cooper can't stop, and he doesn't even like pussy.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
I have had a couple of gut laughs this week reading about "hockey players" and "weight lifters" saying, as they clutch their pearls, that no one has ever said anything as raunchy as Trump said and that had they, they would have reprimanded them on the spot if they did. Oh prunella, as Bugs Bunny would say, no one believes that. Did these candy asses grow up on a Mormon farm? Do they think acting like a beta male will get them any pussy? I know they are just trying to damage Trump, but criminy, try to preserve some male dignity would you?
Yes, Ben Carson is missing. And so is Carly Fiorina. Both would ruin the point, that the race on the Republican side is all about white men (two of whom are Hispanic, but if they're Republican this doesn't matter), and Hillary's on the other side of the door.
I haven't even seen Ann parse Trump's actual quote. She always puts up the CNN version with 2 words of his and a bunch of added garbage.
For a complete mark-up of actual facts about the bogus pussy-grabbing controversy the only place to go is:
http://tinyurl.com/gks7t6h
Its already sold, and the current management will not change. She will simply be a resident at the mansion, for all that she matters. She is too old and sick and she never was much of a manager anyway. He is too old and it seems too sick for his old shenanigans, and he will most likely remain in his retirement home, far from his wife, nursing whatever ails him.
According to the Podesta leaks there is constant worry among Hillary’s campaign minions about Slick Willie’s present day fucking around. I don’t think he’s ready for a nursing home just yet. He looks old but he looks healthy. And how healthy do you have to be to grab yourself some good old political groupie pussy?
I see it the other way around: Hillary’s health problems incapacitates her and Slick Willie once again takes over the reins of government for a 3rd term and maybe a 4th, if Hillary can last that long. Bill and Hillary are a political team. They don’t have a marriage relationship and haven’t for years – they have a political relationship.
hombre: So if your kid is at school and a bigger kid walks up to them and takes their lunch money and they don't fight back, your kid "let them do it"? I hope any women in your life never have someone put their hands on them yes, without their permission. I foresee the conversation wherein you explain to them that they "let them do it" being quite awkward.
Incidentally, I can't stand Hilldog, I just can't stand the sentient Cheeto stain you're apologizing for more.
"I did try to fuck her. She was married. I moved on her like a bitch, I couldn't get there and she was married. Now I see she's got the big phony tits. I just start kissing them. When you're a start they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy."
So presidential. Some of you are minimizing what went on. "Oh, he said pussy and you're on the fainting couch." I couldn't sleep knowing I voted for this guy. You're a lot stronger than I am. You should read some of the things that have been said about the dignity of our first president. I don't see how you could knowingly vote for a roué.
Is that Hillary looking in or the female exec who ran for president, Fiorina?
@JWB: Listen, if you and your ilk can drag yourself away from the kissing and grabbing crisis long enough to notice, Russia has installed nuke missiles near NATO border, Putin has recalled traveling Russian families and Russia is practicing evacuations of her major cities.
Please use your influence as a Hilltroll and email the Pussy in Chief, via Hillary's secret server, and ask him to press her "RESET" button before it's too late.
Remorse said...
I couldn't sleep knowing I voted for this guy.
But you'll sleep just fine when Putin's newly placed anti-aircraft guns are firing at American Planes over Syria next year as we attempt to enforce Hillary's no-fly zone.
Got it.
I didn't say I was or wasn't voting for Hillary. But I have no problem with the next president standing up tough to a Communist KGB dictator who's blackmailing our country.
I couldn't sleep knowing I voted for this guy. You're a lot stronger than I am.
It's unfortunate there isn't a good alternative but it really isn't that difficult. The other guy's husband actually raped women and she helped cover for him. For openers of a very very long list. Did you know her husband was a President, too?
I'll have no problem voting for a placeholder.
hombre: I'd change the subject too if my arguments were poorly thought out garbage defending a classless bully. Call me Hilltroll again, that one was really working...
Has anyone yet disputed the point that Donald is making? That if a male has sufficient resources or a female has sufficient sexual attractiveness then they are likely to get away with behavior with the opposite sex that others cannot? And I'm not talking about criminal behavior, either. He is saying it crudely, but I see no criminal intent or action. Lore, and anecdotal evidence, says that a young attractive female is more likely to get off with a warning from a male authority figure than a young pimply male. Isn't this because her beauty allows her to metaphorically grab the male figure 'by the balls' or by 'the little head'? Isn't that kind of language viewed as perfectly acceptable? At the end this is just a partisan attack. It was vulgar, but it was a private conversation. All words and no action. Indeed, Trump is admitting failure. He says she turned him down, and he then desisted. No rape, no sexual assault. He made a pass, and she deflected it. No harm, no foul. From the timing, it is highly likely that Trump was single. It is unclear whether he knew when he made the pass that she was married.
Conversely, for Hillary, it is not only private words, but criminal public actions. Hillary essentially had Qaddafi assassinated and then laughed about it in public, not in private. Is this the person you want as President, because that is what we're going to get?
@Remorse
I had a TS/SCI clearance. If I did what Hillary did I would be in jail for multiple life sentences. There are dozens of service members in jail now for much less than what she did. This election is about whether or not the rule of law is equally applied to all. Equal justice is fundamental to this country as founded and I deployed 4 times to defend it.
If Hillary Clinton is elected this country is my enemy.
Trump's character issues are serious but they are minuscule in comparison to what Hillary has done.
"If Hillary Clinton is elected this country is my enemy."
You have no judgement. Some of you say things that can't be defended.
So presidential. Some of you are minimizing what went on. "Oh, he said pussy and you're on the fainting couch." I couldn't sleep knowing I voted for this guy. You're a lot stronger than I am. You should read some of the things that have been said about the dignity of our first president. I don't see how you could knowingly vote for a roué.
“Our first president?” Are you referring to George Washington? A bit of clarification would seem to be in order – that is if you can keep your sleepy eyes open long enough.
Bulletin: Most of the Presidents we have ever elected have grabbed a whole lot of pussy, before, during and after occupying the Oval Office. Read some history, get schooled on Presidential history and get some sleep for God’s sake.
What point were they trying to make about Rubio??
Remorse wrote: "I don't see how you could knowingly vote for a roué."
Seriously? If People don't vote for him Hillary the Grifter, who set the M.E. on fire, who enabled a sexual predator, who transmitted classified emails over an insecure network and corrupted the FBI will be in the WH.
I guess I'm just not as giddy about sex talk as you are.
"I guess I'm just not as giddy about sex talk as you are."
The context ensures that not all sex talk is equal, imo.
Blogger JBW said...
"hombre: I'd change the subject too if my arguments were poorly thought out garbage defending a classless bully. Call me Hilltroll again, that one was really working..."
I get that you think sex talk and schoolyard bullying trump (npi) national security, Hilltroll. Trying to shift your priorities away from juvenile topics to grownup issues isn't quite the same as changing the subject, now is it?
There was nothing poorly thought out about pointing out your deceitful characterization of Trump's remarks. They were loutish, but did not indicate a criminal bent. I don't defend Trump. All that needs to be said is that he's not Hillary the Grifter.
Locker room talk means between males, not in a locker room.
Now that women reporters inhabit the rooms anyway, it would depend on the men in other ways.
Deference to woman's traditional sensitive ears, or a fuck you baby attitude.
I don't care if Hillary's husband actually raped women, incidentally. That's a different prosecutor.
I'm about pussy talk being funny, not insulting.
It's such a human fate. That makes it comedy.
Remorse wrote: "The context ensures that not all sex talk is equal, imo."
Quite right! Trump's locker room talk does not have the same gravitas as, say, recent remarks about Bill and Hillary by Juanita Broaddrick or Kathleen Willey.
Remorse said...
"If Hillary Clinton is elected this country is my enemy."
You have no judgement. Some of you say things that can't be defended.
10/12/16, 3:32 PM
Get a mirror. Please.
"I don't see how you could knowingly vote for a roué?"
A 50-50 mixture of flour and butter is not eligible for the office, even if over 35 years old.
But you misspelled "roux." I assume that's what you meant, as what you actually wrote was too absurd to be believed.
Remorse said...
I didn't say I was or wasn't voting for Hillary. But I have no problem with the next president standing up tough to a Communist KGB dictator who's blackmailing our country.
10/12/16, 3:24 PM
Be a problem when we lose, though. Have you studied the correlation of forces in theater?
"Be a problem when we lose, though."
Now we're talking pussies.
jk
"his supporters would try to pass off as "locker room talk."
It was, but it would be valuable for young women to hear it.
OK, we'll give them a trigger warning before they find out how some men and women make fools of themselves over sex and money. If women were just equals we could expose them to the truth and trust them to deal with it without losing their reasoning ability.
It's hard to tell who are the bigger misogynists in this kerfuffle.
hombre: They are indeed juvenile topics, hence the embarrassment so many in your party feel that their presidential nominee is the reason everyone is talking about them. And I don't need to deceitfully characterize Trump's remarks, they speak for themselves.
Incidentally, the next time you walk up to a woman you don't know and start kissing her and grabbing her pussy, just tell the cops that it was merely loutish behavior and does no indicate a criminal bent. i'm sure they will completely understand your point of view.
I get why you don't like Hilldog but she's clearly the least worse of two bad options. Hilltroll out!
I just got back from the future and here's the salient points--
1) Trump wins big.
2) Trump's second term starts with a NYT headline "The Twenties Start With A ROAR!"
3) April/Apple and Chuck announced their engagement.
4) The Althouse blog became nothing but rat drawings shortly after Trump's first inauguration.
5) At some point, the Althouse rat drawings looked more like straight lines. I stopped checking.
6) Taylor Swift won all the major awards with PUSSY Talk. Kim/Kanye were living in her basement.
Are we being asked to believe that women have never heard of this kind of talk before? Time to switch to FM, ladies, or maybe just watch Animal House.
The fainting couch is over there, in the corner, out of reach of your voting booth.
"Are we being asked to believe that women have never heard of this kind of talk before?"
I don't think they have heard it from a presidential candidate before. You think they should't mind?
JBW said...
hombre: I'd change the subject too if my arguments were poorly thought out garbage defending a classless bully. Call me Hilltroll again, that one was really working..."
Actually it's Hillary that needs to stay with pussy. In the real world the FBI agents and lawyers that worked on the investigation unanimously stated they recommended indictment but the powers above them at the FBI and the DoJ overruled the recommendation. We are way beyond Watergate in criminality and this looks that it goes all the way to Obama. Second time Hillary has escaped an indictment. She has friends in all the right places.
Professor Althouse can we know get off the admittedly juvenile and puerile tertiary issues and focus on the first order issues of criminality?
"I did try to fuck her. She was married. I moved on her like a bitch."
Powerful guy with a lot of money knowingly moving in on a married woman. I wonder how many married women he moved in on? Well, what difference does it make? Conservative standards have fallen pretty low in 21st c.
Remorse, Trump is a douchebag. We knew that going in. This audio is not a surprise. You'd have to be completely out of touch to think it's a surprise.
And he's just another in a long series of President Douchebags. WJC, JFK, LBJ. That doesn't make it OK. It's just that I hope for more knowledge and wisdom from the American voter. Oh, you just woke up and discovered Trump's character?
I have only rarely heard men speak with as much vulgarity as Trump did. Probably that's much because men tend to assess their male friends on the prude scale, and I fall pretty far on the prudish side. I don't want an asshat like Trump as President, but the alternative is worse.
"Oh, you just woke up and discovered Trump's character?"
No, I never could tolerate him. He was the worst of the Republican candidates. It was evident from the start to me that he had a base character. I would never cast a vote for that kind of man.
Yet Remorse never noticed a single thing about Hillary. AMAZING.
Remorse said...
"I did try to fuck her. She was married. I moved on her like a bitch."
Powerful guy with a lot of money knowingly moving in on a married woman. I wonder how many married women he moved in on? Well, what difference does it make? Conservative standards have fallen pretty low in 21st c."
Well he is a lightweight compared to Bill Clinton who was elected by voters who knew what he was and voted for him twice and believed his actual misconduct wasn't worthy of being impeached and removed. So are you holding Trump to a higher standard than a man who did what Trump only conversed about but was judged acceptable in a president?
I moved on her like a bitch
I admire a man that follows the lead of women.
"So are you holding Trump to a higher standard than a man who did what Trump only conversed about but was judged acceptable in a president?"
The question I wonder is are you holding Trump to a standard where as long as he's not as bad as Bill Clinton he's good to go? Actually, I don't have to wonder. As I said, new conservative values.
Move on that married bitch.
"I admire a man that follows the lead of women."
A lot of that admiration for Trump going around. You got your values, I got mine.
Trump is just like Slick Willie, and Hillary is Bill's gold-digging plaything. Bill was at least as boorish as this, and that suited Hillary's purposes just fine, in that she accepted it to get what she wanted. She just wishes he didn't get caught too. A hot mike is like a blue dress. Everybody is just fine with it until it catches the wrong thing and the sun hits it.
I don't think they have heard it from a presidential candidate before.
Of course not, past Presidents, especially if they were Democrats, were protected by the MSM. Still are if you haven’t noticed. Everyone in the media knew that JFK was fucking everything in skirts. I believe some females in the media even allowed him to grab their journalistic pussies whenever he wanted to. Even Jackie, his spouse, knew, but nary a whisper about it from the MSM. All the Kennedy boys were womanizers of the first order, trading Marilyn Monroe among each other like a common whore.
Now use your imagination real hard. Try to imagine the Kennedy boys talking about having their cocks sucked by the clinically depressed and highly neurotic Marilyn Monroe. Do you believe they used euphemisms? You think they talked about having their penises sucked? Are they using “intercourse” for “fucking?” Do you imagine them saying “vagina” when they mean “pussy?” See how that works?
Why do you say he only "conversed about" it? Listen to what he says, he's telling you what he's done:
"I just start kissing them. When you're a start they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy." - Donald Trump
""I did try to fuck her. She was married. I moved on her like a bitch."
See, Trump can admit failure. Doesn't that make him a good guy?
That's good Alinsky, Remorse. Hold them up their own standards and all that.
I like the part where he talked about taking a leak over a bridge and he said the water was cold. And deep, too.
@JBW re your 4:33: The problem with trolling is you have to say and stand by stupid, illogical stuff.
"They are indeed juvenile topics, hence the embarrassment so many in your party feel that their presidential nominee is the reason everyone is talking about them."
I am not and never have been a Republican. People are still talking about Trump's silly remarks because the media and Hilltrolls prefer them to serious issues where she loses or is embarrassed.
"Incidentally, the next time you walk up to a woman you don't know and start kissing her and grabbing her pussy ...."
The troll believes his own hyperbole. Sad!!
Back to Hillary: Grifter, liar, enabler, incompetent .... You know. All that stuff Hillary's idolaters are trying to avoid.
"Try to imagine the Kennedy boys talking about having their cocks sucked by the clinically depressed and highly neurotic Marilyn Monroe. Do you believe they used euphemisms?"
I don't believe the people of this country would have voted for him if they heard that before the election. People generally had more character in 1960. In 2016 a lot of t them will apparently vote for any lowlife if he or she professes their political goals. Character is pretty passe these days.
"Hold them up their own standards and all that."
I don't know about Alinsky but apparently a lot of Trump's voters don't really have those standards.
Remorse said, "In 2016 a lot of them will apparently vote for any lowlife if he or she professes their political goals."
But what are those goals? What are Hillary's; what are Donald's?
I think you're correct. We're going back to a tribal voting tendency. Leftists are voting left, as pre-Reagan, and some rightists are voting GOP, and on both sides there are lots of orphans wondering where to go.
It's a challenge to understand these things about Hillary and Donald: they don't have ideology or principles. They just want power, fame, and money. I don't know why they want these things, but their behaviors, for both, betray these disrespectable desires.
But Hillary is the worst of the two.
Progressive wars, impulsive regime changes, terrorist affairs, immigration reform, class diversity, selective exclusion, sex confusion, green/clean blight, trickle-up poverty, scientific mysticism, death penalty or final solution for the wholly innocent a.k.a. abortion rites, Planned Parenthood... and a libertine ("benefits") culture. Pro-Choice standards. Democratic standards.
But Hillary is the worst of the two.
Greater evil and unrepentant.
Per Bob Ellison: They just want power, fame, and money.
Donald Trump already has an abundance of all three.
Per Remorse[less]: I don't think they have heard it from a presidential candidate before. You think they should't mind?
Of course they shouldn't mind. Have you ever heard millennial women talk about sex?
Oh well. Idiots make idiotic decisions on idiotic grounds because that is their nature, to be idiots. They run away from numbers and facts, or use them only to get into rationalization games. Or make decisions on matters suitable to the gossip columns.
All engineers, I teach my students, are like the Greek Princess Cassandra (that gets a laugh). Cursed to foretell disaster, and be ignored. When disaster comes, inevitably, then we get to get things working as they should have been.
Anyway, here is what happens when you get a government pushing an energy policy of the sort that is being forced on the US, state by state, by the Federal government. As it happens this is Canada, Ontario, which under a succession of Liberal governments (US - Democrats - equivalent, Justin Trudeau's gang) put in its conception of renewable energy power generation system. The system itself has kindly recorded the annual progress of what it charges the public -
http://www.ontarioenergyboard.ca/OEB/Consumers/Electricity/Electricity+Prices/Historical+Electricity+Prices
Short answer - so far they have managed to about double rates across the board, especially if you weight by usage of the various categories. Electric pricing can be as complicated to figure as cellphone plans, but this is clear enough.
And note -
https://www.cns-snc.ca/media/ontarioelectricity/ontarioelectricity.html
With all that they have managed to switch only under 25% of their generation to "renewables". Figure out for yourselves how expensive that was. Whenever they have to replace that nuclear power plant (they will), or put more investment in those dams - well, disastrous is not too extreme a term. This is not a recoverable failure.
This is what they, the Federal government will do to you. Thats what the DOE and EPA and Elon Musk are about. Nothing else.
And this is just on one fairly minor thing. Its like this across ALL things, all costs, all factors of production.
This is as clear and explicit an example as I can find, a pocketbook way, to point out that the system, Leviathan, is out to suck your blood and eliminate as much of the real economy as it can, in a frenzy of annihilation. In simple ways as this or much messier ones, like healthcare and pensions or employment laws. Simple and complete, that is it, all of it. There is nothing else.
Barack is showing his erection to a planeful of female reporters during the first campaign and they are all shouting for the women in the aisle to sit down so that they can have a better view. Those same reporters are clutching their pearls now.
Pulling some data from back issues of the DOE monthly pub in my files -
Let us take, for instance, the Case of California. California has gone fully into the desired policy regime.
Average price of electricity Cents/kwh - Residential customers, January
2004 - 10.18
2008 - 12.43
2012 - 14.77
2016 - 18.49
Remember, this is during a period of, it is alleged, zero inflation. The implied inflation here is, I figure, about 5.1%
This is NOT in the news.
This is the cost mainly of government policy.
The little secret is that these costs are up across the US, if one bothers to do a year-on-year series, about 2.3% annually. There is no reason for these cost increases, cost of fuel and etc. being stable, as well as all factors of production and in spite of constant increases in efficiency. These prices should have been dropping.
Blogger Remorse said...
"No, I never could tolerate him. He was the worst of the Republican candidates. It was evident from the start to me that he had a base character. I would never cast a vote for that kind of man."
But she voted for this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dGJIB5cO0cQ
You are a hypocrite definition of.
Blogger Remorse said...
"If Hillary Clinton is elected this country is my enemy."
"You have no judgement. Some of you say things that can't be defended."
Explain please some of the things that I say that can't be defended. I would love to see you post anything remotely resembling critical thought.
Hey Remorse, Queen Victoria called and wants her era back.
"I don't believe the people of this country would have voted for him if they heard that before the election. People generally had more character in 1960. In 2016 a lot of t them will apparently vote for any lowlife if he or she professes their political goals. Character is pretty passe these days."
True - which is why people are voting for the wife of a serial abuser and molester of woman. A wife who slandered and persecuted her husband's victims.
I'm convinced that the reporters already have a tape or a woman who will allege that Trump did more than talk about grabbing pussy. The tape we now have is just locker room talk but Anderson Cooper asked a set of questions at the last debate that made it plain to me that they have something more on Trump.
But they won't have more on Trump than people already know about Bill Clinton while he was President. And Clinton is regarded as a successful President especially by the Democrats and media now piling on Trump. Furthermore Clinton is still behaving as he did when he was President and those who want favors from Hillary have to go through Bill. Bringing with them a sacrificial woman "lobbyist" to throw in with the money. And the media knows that is so and will not cover it. The only way we really get a picture of how Bill Clinton acts is to see and hear what the media digs up on Trump and then say - that's the Clinton reality which the media is hiding for the Democrats.
There are only two candidates and neither always treats women as we should be treated. So it's a wash.
Meanwhile, Hillary plans to destroy fracking which had lead to cheap energy in the US and round the world. Cheap energy could help revive manufacturing here. Better jobs for all. But she doesn't care.
Russia is forcing NATO to back down. Hillary doesn't care.
You will never be able to explain in the future as you live with the consequences of ignoring Russia, China, energy, why sex tapes meant so much and American weakness as increased by Corrupt Hillary meant so little.
So far, nothing here about Hillary's emails showing how she & Obama supported ISIS.
Eric and Leigh:
Holy shit! I thought you were kidding but it is actually a video of Obama displaying a boner to some females on an airplane. Hey, from the looks of it Obama has a pretty big dick. Somebody better warn Remorse. The shock of it … would lose a lot of sleep … probably would not have voted for Obama if Remorse had just known how vulgar Obama was.
I wonder how our hostess feels about it. Would she have voted for Obama if she had seen this video? I mean … it doesn’t look like Obama asked the females’ permission before he cocked this leg up so they could see his boner better. Could this be evidence of … sex crime?
Curious that a week later the evening news is still frantically trumpeting this even though the polls show Hillary walking away with the election. I don't doubt that the polls are legit, within their own parameters, but the Democrats certainly aren't acting like Hillary has this in the bag.
I'm convinced that the reporters already have a tape or a woman who will allege that Trump did more than talk about grabbing pussy.
They already have and I’m sure there’s more to come. They MUST destroy Trump – the stakes are high.
I already predicted this. Here’s some more predictions:
There will be no disinterested neutral witnesses; it’ll be all “he said/she said” stuff.
Their friends and relatives will of course back up anything they claim, although they will have not actually witnessed anything.
The women will become the darlings of the media – wined and dined and otherwise having their egos stroked. Gloria Allred will probably snag a couple of them.
There will be no record of a complaint or accusation lodged when the transgression was supposed to have occurred. These stories will always be after the supposed fact.
The stakes are $Trillions. All that $ depends on government policy.
Thats where your democracy went.
I don't doubt that the polls are legit, within their own parameters, but the Democrats certainly aren't acting like Hillary has this in the bag.
Here’s my theory:
Hillary’s internal polling is showing a defeat for her. And the MSM radar is picking this up as a huge blip in the shape of a portly man in impeccably tailored suits.
The trouble with the public polls may be that they seem to use the previous election’s voting patterns as a basis with which to design the polls. For instance, Hillary cannot hope to match Obama’s black vote demographic, to illustrate just one difference between the last Obama campaign and the election coming up. And they are having trouble with the Bernie kids being mad at Hillary.
And then there’s those Trump supporters who have not voted recently. The public polls never reach them and in fact can not reach them because of the way public polls have to be designed.
And there’s the Trump supporters who will vote for Trump but will deny it because they fear disapproval.
And then there’s the obvious enthusiasm gap that heavily favors Trump. They know from the primaries that Trump can turn out the votes and had set voter turnout records while doing so. They see the huge Trump rallies. They see the poor turnout Hillary has in her rare public gatherings.
It all adds up to a Trump victory and it’s driving them nuts.
I recognize this scenario happening in America - this is the same thing that happened to the Catholic Church in the Sixties. It seemed strong and vibrant - seminaries were filled, parochial schools taught students well. Then suddenly in connection with Vatican II challenges surfaced and the churches and seminaries emptied. It was incomprehensible to me at the time. The biggest problem of all in my present view was that the people at the top were hacks and yes men. They believed but they had never been challenged. So when challenges came they didn't grapple with them, they denied their existence. It wasn't in them to take on something big.
And that is my opinion about America right now. We are seriously being challenged and we think that we can elect a Tammany Hall type politician as we have done many times in the past. This is now. We can't sit around thrashing out our personal issues among ourselves. We got the East Europeans to give up the nuclear deterrent in exchange for Russia moving its missiles. Now Russia has moved them back and we are doing nothing - not even wringing our hands. That's just an example. One reason why these candidates are so unideal is that our whole common discourse isn't dealing with new realities. Trump is talking about the trade realities but there should be hundreds like him, not just one. And fleeing Republicans - they are fleeing any talk about current realities. It's too hard for them when the media won't do it because they too are mostly yes men and hacks. Witness the eager embrace of the strategy of dumping the values voters and then the repudiation of a somewhat-value free candidate (on behalf of a totally corrupt candidate,) This irrational behavior indicates hacks trying to deal with a dangerous, changing reality. Not bad, just not up to it. Well, the Church spent a long time in the wilderness but it was always sheltered by American power as true reform went on within. America will be protected by? the Clinton machine? Sorry, that's just for winning elections and distributing spoils.
Hi wildswan,
Its to your credit that you charitably give the benefit of the doubt.
Unfortunately, I think thats an error. Its not a question of the leadership being incapable, though some of their minions are unimpressive, but simply that they have divergent interests. Whats good for them isnt good for us, and vice versa. This was not so when our economic interests used to coincide, when prosperity meant wealth across the board, more or less, but thats no longer true.
Not only aren't people angels, but at that level and at those stakes, our little concerns and welfare simply dont figure. We are at best interesting statistics, irrelevant, or an annoyance.
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