Althouse: "The attackers told [Faraaz] Hossain, the American college student, that he could leave along with some hijab-wearing women

July 3, 2016

"The attackers told [Faraaz] Hossain, the American college student, that he could leave along with some hijab-wearing women — but his two female friends couldn't."

"Hossain decided to stay behind to be with them, survivors later told his family."

55 comments:

JackWayne said...: Cue Obama telling us all of his many lies.; 7/3/16, 8:56 PM
traditionalguy said...: The Emory students had a choice to go to a Muslim Country and help people. The three were of course slaughtered, for not being Muslim.

But the Emory students that are still in Atlanta will not have that choice when Obama's Muslim Invasion arrives here and decides to slaughter them on campus by the hundreds, for not being Muslims, of course.

And Gov. Nathan Deal vetoed the new open carry on campus law last month. He apparently thinks it would be dangerous if students designated for Muslim slaughter resist.

Deal was under his State Troopers armed guardians, as always because he understands danger, while he calmly vetoed the student's best hope of living to be his age.; 7/3/16, 9:00 PM
Bill said...: Now, there is a man.; 7/3/16, 9:08 PM
I Have Misplaced My Pants said...: Did I read that right? They stabbed to death a woman who was seven months pregnant?; 7/3/16, 9:10 PM
eric said...: Wow.

Those are the type of men we need in America today. Makes me proud.

The Hillary Clinton supporters would say, "Well, I'm a feminist and these ladies are strong and powerful and can take care of themselves. Of course I'll leave!"; 7/3/16, 9:19 PM
Paul said...: I am impressed with Hossain. Good man. I only wish THAT HE HAD A GUN that night.

Good people, armed, is what we need. Not metrosexual wimps.; 7/3/16, 9:34 PM
John Cunningham said...: An English-language paper in Dhaka reported that the Muslim scum terrorists asked the hostages to write a couple of Iran verses. Those who could got dinner. Those who could not, mostly Italianscand Japanese, were taken away and tortured with machetes and then chopped up alive. Nothing to do with with Pisslam of course.; 7/3/16, 9:41 PM
John Cunningham said...: That was Koran verses.; 7/3/16, 9:42 PM
Saint Croix said...: Wow. That's amazing courage.; 7/3/16, 9:45 PM
Char Char Binks, Esq. said...: @John Cunningham

At least you spelled "Pisslam" right.; 7/3/16, 9:48 PM
CWJ said...: Words fail me. That's all.; 7/3/16, 9:50 PM
Anonymous said...: traditionalguy said...
The Emory students had a choice to go to a Muslim Country and help people. The three were of course slaughtered, for not being Muslim.

I think you read the article incorrectly.

As I read it, all three of the featured college students graduated from High school in Dhaka. They were not "American". The part about Emery and Cal is to make a connection as "American college students" which of course they were not. They were Asians attending school in America.

1 gal was an Indian national, whose father worked in Dhaka. Her last name is Jain, so perhaps her religion was Jain-ism

The other gal appears to be a rich local who was from Dhaka, but graduated from the "American School" in Dhaka. Most residents of Dhaka are Muslim. These two must have appeared very "Western" because several Hjabi wearing women got out

The guy was Muslim, and made his choice, but he was from Dhaka as well and Muslim

All three were locals; 7/3/16, 9:57 PM
mockturtle said...: Yes, what courage! Something in amazingly short supply these days. The whole idea behind terrorism [and as it even says in the Qur'an] is to strike terror into our hearts. If we get angry and courageous instead of terrified and cowardly, we shall prevail.; 7/3/16, 10:01 PM
Clyde said...: "What's really puzzling is the background of these attackers," said Faiz Sobhan of the Dhaka-based think tank, Bangladesh Enterprise Institute. "They were normal regular guys who hung out at cafes, played sports, had Facebook pages. ... This is a new trend in radicalization."

You'd think they had a "holy" book that told them to kill infidels or something. I keep reading media gas-lighting about the "holy month of Ramadan," and I see all Muslim violence from every part of the world, and I think that "holy" must have a completely different meaning in the Muslim world. It seems pretty damn unholy to me.; 7/3/16, 10:17 PM
Anonymous said...: Any word yet on the attackers' affiliation? Some claim they were with [redacted], but I suspect they're [deleted].; 7/3/16, 10:18 PM
Anonymous said...: "holy month of Ramadan"

attacks go up each Ramadan.

It's a strange backward linkage.

People get more religious, but Islam is a religion of Peace, so why would violence go up?

who'd a thunk it?; 7/3/16, 10:23 PM
Anonymous said...: Bangladesh is the third-largest Muslim-majority country after Indonesia and Pakistan. Islam is the state religion.; 7/3/16, 10:26 PM
mockturtle said...: @Paul Zrimsek: Any word yet on the attackers' affiliation? Some claim they were with [redacted], but I suspect they're [deleted].

LOL! I'm currently reading Catastrophic Failure by Stephen Coughlin.; 7/3/16, 10:45 PM
MayBee said...: God Bless; 7/3/16, 10:48 PM
Thuglawlibrarian said...: Whatever made these folks do something like this? I guess we'll never know for sure.; 7/3/16, 11:03 PM
MisterBuddwing said...: Any word yet on the attackers' affiliation? Some claim they were with [redacted], but I suspect they're [deleted].

I heard a rumor it was Islamic State, but the Bangladeshi government says differently.

(An Instapundit fan, I see.)

BTW, a happy 50th anniversary to the Freedom of Information Act.; 7/3/16, 11:19 PM
~ Gordon Pasha said...: The fates of Stoddart and Connelly should be required reading of anyone who travels to the Middle East.; 7/3/16, 11:25 PM
Anonymous said...: Conolly; 7/3/16, 11:37 PM
chickelit said...: Does John 15:13 have an equivalent in the Koran? I suppose not, a priori. Too bad, as it would have been a good verse to recite back to the monsters.; 7/4/16, 12:03 AM
Mary Beth said...: In a perverse gesture, the gunmen separated the Muslims from the non-Muslims. The Muslims were given food and water.

Perverse?; 7/4/16, 12:08 AM
chickelit said...: Perverse?

Perverse because Islam is supposed to have nothing to do with these monsters according to our Western leaders. Nothing at all.; 7/4/16, 12:15 AM
MisterBuddwing said...: "In a perverse gesture, the gunmen separated the Muslims from the non-Muslims. The Muslims were given food and water."

"Perverse?"

I have more of a problem with "gesture" than "perverse."; 7/4/16, 12:27 AM
David said...: Dhaka may be a massive city of 7 million. But people know people. And even though the government hasn't released the attackers' full names, people started talking as soon as photos of them began appearing online.
These were young men that many in the city knew -- someone's son's friend from college, someone's second cousin.
"What's really puzzling is the background of these attackers," said Faiz Sobhan of the Dhaka-based think tank, Bangladesh Enterprise Institute. "They were normal regular guys who hung out at cafes, played sports, had Facebook pages. ... This is a new trend in radicalization."

Sound familiar? This will continue as long as ISIS remains viable on the battlefield in Syria, Iraq and elsewhere. It will probably continue for a while after they are defeated too, but their defeat in battle is essential to ending the mystique that foments these attacks on their behalf.

The young man who declined to leave was loyal and brave. I wonder what inspired him?; 7/4/16, 1:11 AM
Shahid Q. Public said...: Bangladesh is the third-largest Muslim-majority country after Indonesia and Pakistan. Islam is the state religion.

That may be, but Bangladesh's constitution also explicitly enshrine secularism and freedom of religion as well (articles 2A and 12 of the constitution for those interested). Indeed, when Bangladesh broke away from Pakistan, the Islamists fought rather viciously on the side of Pakistan to prevent the breakup, and this fact is still remembered by many, including the leadership of the current ruling party.; 7/4/16, 2:17 AM
Hey Skipper said...: Ramadan Bombathon:

Religion of Peace: 220 attacks, 1573 dead.

All other religions: 0 for 0.

Islamophobes: 0 for 0; 7/4/16, 3:05 AM
traditionalguy said...: Drill Sgt...I don't get your point. FYI Atlanta is an international city with 100,000+ Indian citizens whose family came over as first generation immigrants to attend college at Georgia Tech and Emory and stayed as professionals and merchants. So those students are our people . Have noticed the Governors in Louisiana and South Carolina who took the same path.; 7/4/16, 3:28 AM
Jaq said...: and I think that "holy" must have a completely different meaning in the Muslim world.

It's kind of like the raisins of clarity/virgins thing. They think that holy means full of bullet holes.; 7/4/16, 5:51 AM
Jaq said...: Men and women are exactly the same, but men keep getting killed in these mass shootings trying to protect their girlfriends (see Columbine) but it never seems to be women dying in this way. It's one more mystery on top of all of these other mysteries about this attack.; 7/4/16, 5:53 AM
HoodlumDoodlum said...: Couple of bright young kids who went to Emory here, murdered for not being Islamic enough, or the right kind of Islamic (the kind that would abandon one's friends to terrorists).
Thanks, religion of peace.

Tell me again about toxic masculinity in Western men.; 7/4/16, 6:25 AM
Anonymous said...: HoodlumDoodlum said...
Tell me again about toxic masculinity in Western men.

"Peaceful folk sleep safely in their beds at night, because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf"

- a former Rough Man; 7/4/16, 6:38 AM
Curious George said...: http://counterjihad.com/5-true-things-we-know-about-sharia-law; 7/4/16, 6:50 AM
Ann Althouse said...: I would have preferred to see this post kept securely focused on the profound demonstration of love and courage, by Foraaz Hossain.

How you can choose, from your comfortable chair, to trot out the usual generalities, rather than to honor Foraaz Hossain is something I do not understand.

Do you know for certain you would have done what he did? I don't see how you could.

Bill set the right tone: "Now, there is a man."

You can't know you would be like Foraaz, but you can, in calmer circumstances, be like Bill.; 7/4/16, 6:53 AM
Ann Althouse said...: "Love suffers long and is kind; love envies not; love flaunts not itself and is not puffed up, does not behave itself improperly, seeks not its own, is not easily provoked, thinks no evil; rejoices not in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, and endures all things."; 7/4/16, 6:57 AM
Anonymous said...: On the topic of rough men and toxic masculinity again :)

A rare look inside a can of Israeli whoop ass as the commandos fly to Entebbe to rescue Jewish Air France hostages, 40 years ago today (July 4, 1976)

Muslim terrorists are Muslim terrorists.

Of note, one of the reasons the song is so fitting to them and me. It is a hymn, commonly sung around the Shabbat table, which can be translated as"How sweet it is to be sitting, surrounded by all of your brothers."

The leader of the assault team was PM Netanyahu's older brother. Both served in the Sayeret Matkal, the Israeli "Delta Force".

Bibi Netanyahu was studying at MIT when the 1973 war broke out. He immediately flew home and ran commando raids across the Suez canal. The sort of guy that Ben Rhodes can call chickenshit... :); 7/4/16, 7:02 AM
Tarrou said...: Everyone knows these people, no one stops them, and we refuse to hold the legions of muslims encouraging, training and funding these attacks responsible. What we need is an actual backlash for once (not the fevered imaginings of leftist imbeciles). Burn a few thousand mosques, murder ten or fifteen thousand muslims every time there is a terror attack, and see how long the attacks keep up. If nothing else, this provides us with a mathematical ceiling.; 7/4/16, 7:12 AM
Anonymous said...: Ann Althouse said...
I would have preferred to see this post kept securely focused on the profound demonstration of love and courage, by Foraaz Hossain.

I think that most of the posts are related to the topic.

Bill set the right tone: "Now, there is a man."

aka "He's a Mensch". a fine representation of masculinity, unlike the craven terrorists slitting throats of prisoners.

and in my specific case, is still on point.
- Muslim terrorists
- hostages
- rough men in fellowshop and love
- risking all to free innocents at the cost of their lives
- terrorists get their virgins
- hostages come home; 7/4/16, 7:13 AM
I Have Misplaced My Pants said...: To Althouse's point--last night when I had just read this piece and was letting it filter through my mind, I happened to be watching my six year old son playing with his two month old sister. I was thinking about that young man's mother and the agony she must be feeling, but at the same time, how much of a comfort it must be that her boy had grown to be a man who made the hard but right decision when it mattered. I'm glad she has that.; 7/4/16, 7:49 AM
I Have Misplaced My Pants said...: This is in contrast to the anguish that Meer Hayet Kabir must be feeling, processing both the loss of his son but the certain knowledge that his son was a monster.; 7/4/16, 7:52 AM
MaxedOutMama said...: I can't read this - it is too tragic. God bless and keep the victims and their survivors.

Bangladesh has been trending badly, with the hacking deaths of those who dare to speak out against Muslim extremism slowly mounting.

The young man who made this decision had a noble character; the sacrifice of the good to the depraved is sickening and tragic in the Greek sense.

In the words of Al Sisi: "Is it possible that 1.6 billion people [Muslims] should want to kill the rest of the world’s inhabitants—that is 7 billion—so that they themselves may live? Impossible!"
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/2015/01/01/egypts-sisi-islamic-thinking-is-antagonizing-the-entire-world/; 7/4/16, 8:01 AM
chickelit said...: Ann Althouse said...
I would have preferred to see this post kept securely focused on the profound demonstration of love and courage, by Foraaz Hossain.

Is there any more relevant verse than that I cited at 12:15AM?

Stop hinting that we should react like the Administration does: being in awe of the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church's reaction while plotting to disarm us.

Have a Happy 4th!; 7/4/16, 8:43 AM
Sebastian said...: "I would have preferred to see this post kept securely focused on the profound demonstration of love and courage, by Foraaz Hossain" Completely agree on the love and courage. Disagree that the proper reaction is to focus on "love" only. Some of us also feel anger, want to take the fight to the enemy (physical and ideological), and view sentimental mush as prelude to defeat.; 7/4/16, 9:29 AM
Big Mike said...: RIP Foraaz Hossain. Hey Democrats! Take a good look at him pajama boys, social justice warriors, and fans of Hillary Clinton! That is how a MAN dies.

We saw this sort of thing in Aurora -- several young women are alive today because their boyfriends shielded them with their bodies. The boyfriends died, but the women lived. There still are men in this country.; 7/4/16, 9:43 AM
MAJMike said...: Religion of Peace, my straight-leg ass!; 7/4/16, 9:45 AM
Big Mike said...: Regarding the two female Emory students, I understand that they probably did know some verses from the Quran that they could have recited, but they were not given the chance and were selected for slaughter because they weren't wearing a hajib.

A note for American feminists -- the hajib is what dominance by the patriarchy looks like.; 7/4/16, 9:50 AM
Freder Frederson said...: Burn a few thousand mosques, murder ten or fifteen thousand muslims every time there is a terror attack, and see how long the attacks keep up. If nothing else, this provides us with a mathematical ceiling.

And this would prove our moral superiority exactly how? You would have made a wonderful Nazi. (I try to avoid invoking Godwin, but in this case it is entirely justified.); 7/4/16, 10:13 AM
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mikee said...: I note in passing that Netanyahu, in Uganda for a summit, said, "“Today, in this place where free people delivered a devastating blow to forces of terror, we and all civilized nations must dedicate ourselves to the spirit of Entebbe, a spirit of daring and resolve, a spirit of courage and fortitude, a spirit as determined as ever to defeat terror and secure our common future."

I cannot for the life of me imagine Corrupt Hillary saying such a thing. Ever.; 7/4/16, 12:23 PM
Etienne said...: There is such a thing as survivor guilt. I believe those that left the cafe will suffer.; 7/4/16, 12:47 PM
effinayright said...: Burn a few thousand mosques, murder ten or fifteen thousand muslims every time there is a terror attack, and see how long the attacks keep up. If nothing else, this provides us with a mathematical ceiling.

"And this would prove our moral superiority exactly how? "

***********

SINCE WHEN is defeating an enemy in war based on proving our moral superiority? The POINT is to make the enemy so dispirited that he gives up the fight, and....submits.

After all, that's what ISIS is trying to do to us.; 7/4/16, 1:58 PM
mockturtle said...: This IS a war, after all. And we ARE morally superior, relativism be damned.; 7/4/16, 2:26 PM