I watched the O'Reilly thing last night, so I know what that refers to. Trump — who's not doing the Fox News debate (have you heard?) — went on O'Reilly's Fox News show only to have a desperate and weird O'Reilly badger and interrupt him for 15 minutes over his already perfectly well understood decision not to do the debate, including some incoherent references to O'Reilly's have purchased a number of vanilla milkshakes for Trump... which did get a smile out of Trump... as if, yes, indeed, he does love his vanilla milkshakes. I'm taking that literally. It's not some code, is it? I know "milkshake" is a slang term, but I'd have to bend my mind to find it relevant.
As for the "fist from Heaven"... who knows? Surprised people aren't saying it's Trump's hair. Everything's Trump now, you know.
The link Drudge gives for the O'Reilly interview only has a minute of video and no "milkshake" in the text. Here's complete video:
ADDED: The milkshakes part begins at 13:39: "Would you do me a favor? Look, you owe me a, 'cause I bought you so many vanilla milkshakes, I bought you so many vanilla milkshakes, you owe me. Would you just consider, I want you to consider, all right, think about it, say, look, I [unintelligible] back, forgive, go forward, answer the questions, look out for the folks, just want you to consider it. You owe me milkshakes. I'll take them off the ledger, if you consider it."
Trump's response is: "Well, even though you and I had an agreement that you wouldn't ask me that, which we did, I will therefore forget that you asked me that... because it's an embarrassing question for you and I don't want to embarrass you."
O'Reilly admits that they had an agreement and he broke it, but he's not going to listen to "any political person" telling him not to ask something. "But," O'Reilly says, "You're absolutely an honest person, that I said 'I'll try not to do it,' but the milkshake thing just overwhelmed me."
Trump's all: "It's true. A lotta milkshakes."
Now, I guess all of today will be consumed with the nonsubject of milkshakes. Hard to add that to the "Trump's a media genius" theory. O'Reilly brought it up and belabored it. Maybe the 2 men are in league with each other. In the end, O'Reilly praises Trump for coming on the show. Nobody else would do the show under these circumstances, he says. And Trump repays the compliment and leverages himself by saying that the O'Reilly show is tougher than doing a debate with Megyn Kelly.
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Thank you for explaining the milkshake reference.
pretty sure a blank post does not count as posting for a day...
Don't spend a lot of time in art museums then, I see.
Anyway, I don't blame Trump for not going along with the shit that Google had planned for him. Google is the company that went all in with big data for Obama and is working on adding a "truth" dimension to search engines, to limit debate. Of course "truth" will be determined, as it always is, politically. Twitter is doing the same thing. Now that they dominate, they are asserting control.
I wouldn't mind if there was any way that Hillary could be subjected to hostile questioning in a debate, but we all know that that will never happen, the poor dear is just not up for it.
Time to restore the Christian patriarchy to honor before the barbarians storm the gates.
It appears that that thought is beginning to take hold of your hindbrain, professor.
Feminist dithering over textural BS still has you in a trance. Hard to dump that litany of stupid spoiled white girl lies, huh? Those lies are dying in the streets of Western Europe as Muslim rape gangs and native vigilante gangs fight it out in the street.
Required reading for you. The Feminine Mistake.
Trump has balls, doesn't he? O'Reilly is riding Trump relentlessly. I watch O'Reilly, maybe, once every other week. And there's Trump every time, doing a 15 minute interview.
Still an all, I think Trump should have taken her on. His position on Muslim immigration is defensible, maybe not to lefties, but the left is a small part of this country.
Good Morning, Viet Nam. The politics are snafu. It must be the hand of God again. Who waked Him up?
O'Reilly is opinion, Megyn Kelly is news, meaning anything women will watch.
They're different animals professionally. Trump is standing up for the distinction.
"pretty sure a blank post does not count as posting for a day..."
I deleted the posts that became incomprehensible once I got the post written.
The software has some keystroke that's easy to hit accidentally that publishes a post. That could be a huge problem sometimes. Putting up a completely blank post is low on the scale of bad things that could happen, for example copying and pasting some whole article in preparation for cutting it down into a few short quotes that will be blocked and indented and then just publishing it unedited, unmarked as a quote, and looking like it's my writing.
I guess the worst would be having a draft that says something awful that needs rewriting, but I don't have first drafts like that, I don't think.
"Feminist dithering over textural BS still has you in a trance."
I like smooth and silky, but bumpy and rubbery is nice too.
As President Obama once said: "I don't want to touch sandpaper."
One of our favorite quotes at Meadhouse.
Good, you heard.
I have three sisters.
I understand the argumentative tactic. Been dealing with it from the sisters for 66 years. Nothing new
And, I also know that women are dying for men to fight back. Arguing with a wimpy apologist is kinda boring, isn't it? Men turning wimpy apologist in the hope of getting some pussy is half the problem.
So, so tired of the Trump drama.
Our country can't take four years of Trump's ego and WWE act.
Key point: His companies and their subs have surely hired illegals. Not paying the Nanny Tax has cost people federal office so what about this? When this comes out Trump's finished. He loses Iowa as it is already. NewYork loser hypocrite.
Trump is winning this particular confrontation and O'Reilly knows it.
If Trump wins Iowa, Fox News will have taken a huge hit.
Fox News has lost it's appeal. Who wants to watch a loser that loses and giggles.
Fox News needs its conservative viewers. If they lose that brand, reducing it to establishment GOP, who will watch? It's not aimed at Washington insiders, except to the extent that those characters are interested in affecting the masses. If ordinary people don't watch, their business model is blown. This debate dust-up is much bigger for Fox than for Trump. They doubled down and got hardcore trying to push Trump back. If it doesn't work, they are badly exposed. Trump loves the numbers — the polls, the ratings. I'm sure he'll keep us informed about the effect on Fox's ratings.
Good opportunity for the other news networks to become "fair and balanced" and include the Trump-style conservatives and moderates.
so you're telling me that the gop will end up nominating a Democrat and hurting fox news?!
...sick self-burn.
Men turning wimpy apologist in the hope of getting some pussy is half the problem.
I think women see through that pretty quickly. It doesn't work, women actually like actual men, however, I am OK if my wife doesn't bring me a sandwich every time my stomach rumbles like she may have in my dad's generation. I don't mind cleaning up the kitchen sometimes, though I would rather rake leaves and mow the lawn or split wood, or brushhog, or whatever. This doesn't make my life terrible.
I guess what I am trying to understand is what is "the problem"?
And I haven't watched Fox News even for a grand total of a half hour in the past couple of years.
Two more unthinkable aspects of a Trump presidency:
1. All the New York focus on his celebrity friends. Think of the deals he will do with his NY buddies. Goldman Sachs will move into the Lincoln bedroom full time. Screw Wisconsin.
2. Just get into your mind's eye how the current Mrs. Trump will redecorate our White House. Puke.
Good reasons! Stop the Trump drama.
This just in David Begley prefers Hillary to Trump!
O'Reilly is truly the biggest blowhard in the Land of Blowhards. How I wish Trump hadn't fed his world-class ego by saying what a tough interviewer he is.
"Surprised people aren't saying it's Trump's hair." But then who is saying it? I'm not surprised and I'm not saying it.
I wonder if Trump refusing to do this primary debate will make it easier for FOX to host one of the presidential debates. Hasn't the DNC always refused FOX before?
FOX wants to be able to putting its finger on the scale for pro-amnesty Rubio, without any cost in terms of conservative viewership. Clearly there is an opening for another media outlet to steal those viewers, but I would guess that the likely candidates, such as Breitbart, lack the resources to take much advantage and FOX's monopoly position will remain largely unchallenged. So this battle ends in pretty much a draw with neither Trump's nor FOX's position greatly altered.
I like to think about Mrs. Trump in the White House. Or anywhere. She alone would be big improvement, decoration wise.
Trump is not even the kind of President I'd normally be looking for but, God Damn, he knows how to stick in their eye. Fox has been planning a multifaceted ambush of Trump, along with their Google-Obama loving buddies, and Trump just walked away and left them looking like idiots. They are BEGGING him to come on. BEGGING. He had Bill f*****g O'Reilly on his hands and knees begging him.
Game. It's just ... walk away/leave game. Don't like the frame, one option, get up and leave. He left.
CNN is going to carry Trump's event. LOL. I love that. Fox loves that ... not.
Tim in Vermont
I will sit out the election if it is Trump v Hillary.
And this is from the guy who's motto is: "Hillary must be defeated. Carthage must be destroyed."
Fox News needs its conservative viewers. If they lose that brand, reducing it to establishment GOP, who will watch?...ordinary people don't watch, their business model is blown...Good opportunity for the other news networks to become "fair and balanced" and include the Trump-style conservatives and moderates.
While I've been hoping declining viewership would kill off some of the leftie networks or motivate them to shift to more politically neutral content, cable news doesn't depend enough on ad revenue for this to happen. Despite overall declining cable subscriptions the news networks still receive a small slice of a very large licensing revenue pie. Profit margins are still quite high. Even if they weren't they are tied to parent companies with deep pockets and revenue streams from football.
Viewers have to put up with agenda driven content so long as there's sugar daddies willing to support it.
O'Reilly should explain to his viewers why Fox absolutely must put Kelly on the panel of moderators.
An obvious solution would be to replace her with another Fox journalist, and then Trump would participate in the debate.
The public is much more interested in seeing Trump than Kelly participate in the debate.
However, for Fox the higher priority is that Kelly participate.
If Bill breached his agreement with Donald does that mean Trump no longer likes O'Reilly? Will he boycott the show?
More NY WWE drama.
We need Vince McMahon to work a truce between these two titans.
Fox is in the entertainment business. Provoking/attacking/undermining Trump is entertaining. Who they got now, two hours of Jeb, Marco and ... I forget.
David Begley said...
We need Vince McMahon to work a truce between these two titans.
Your main argument against Trump appears to be that he is not as classy as his country club/Chamber of Commerce/Davos rivals. This is true. So what?
AReasonableMan
Trump's vulgarity and drama are only two reasons to not vote for Trump. The main reason is he is no conservative. He's an authoritarian with New York socially liberal values.
Ann Althouse said...
Fox News needs its conservative viewers. If they lose that brand, reducing it to establishment GOP, who will watch?
Maybe O'Reilly should have talked to Megyn Kelly's producers before they had her bash Trump with Michael Moore. That might have done more for his network than publicly begging Trump.
The political and media world is upside down right now. Chris Matthews had Ann Coulter on the other night talking about Trump, and it was actually a cordial, funny discussion.
Pro-Amnesty Republican = Cheap labor importer
Pro-Amnesty Democrat = Expensive vote importer
Good. Stir the pot. Go Trump.
@David Begley
I will sit out the election if it is Trump v Hillary.
This is exactly what Hillary would like you to do.
How to replace Kelley?
Fox could always borrow Candy Crowley from Clinton News Network. She knows how it is done.
I would like to see Althouse as a questioner. She could stump the Trump with arcane Bob Dylan lyrics and her innate charm.
I am quite willing to believe there is someone at Fox that Trump does not like, but I doubt it is Megyn Kelly.
Trump hires and fires Megyn Kellys as needed for whatever he has got going at the time.
David Begley said...
He's an authoritarian with New York socially liberal values.
So he's a live and let live dictator?
The only news is that Fox and Google planned to ambush Trump with three "Muslim activists" at the "debate" and he found out about it.
Thanks for pointing that out. In fact it deserves citation, which is provided below:
http://tinyurl.com/hhnnt8w
http://tinyurl.com/h8wpolm
Below is some text from the articles:
FOX News and Google invited a radical Muslim activist, a Bernie Sanders supporter, a Black Lives Matter supporter and a Mexican illegal immigrant to the debate to confront Donald Trump. It’s crazy, isn’t it, that Democrat operatives and activists were, in essence, invited to protest Trump mid-debate.
And this elsewhere:
FOX News and Google invited a radical Muslim activist, a Bernie Sanders supporter, a Black Lives Matter supporter and a Mexican illegal immigrant to the debate to confront Donald Trump.
It looks like Fox had quite a show planned for a big Trump take-down just before the Iowa caucuses. Lefty activists try to do this at Trump rallies but are promptly thrown out on the street before they can get started with their sad, desperate political theater. But Fox decided to put them up on the podium. No wonder Trump is pissed.
Trump's vulgarity and drama are only two reasons to not vote for Trump. The main reason is he is no conservative.
Thanks for reminding us, as Ann Coulter would say:
Conservative pundits keep assuring clueless viewers that Trump is not a "real Republican." They seem not to grasp that most viewers are saying, That's fantastic! Thanks for reminding me. (I look forward to conservative talk show hosts 20 years hence billing themselves as "Trump Republicans.")
http://tinyurl.com/juag2bt
"He loses Iowa as it is already"
Delusional.
Paul
You have no idea about Ted's organization in Iowa and his ties to pastors. He has been to all 99 counties and met people personally.
I've been reading the Drudgereport for a few weeks now and I think Drudge really needs to take a chill pill. He and his readers seem to be in a constant state of Trepidation. Relax guys, Hillary enabled ISIS fighters won't be threatening your pregnant wives with Zika virus based bio weapons anytime soon.
I think there's a huge overlap between supporters of Trump and Alex Jones or Drudge readers. If your ideology is driven by fear, someone who promises to make everything better can seem very attractive.
I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE. I DRINK IT UP!
"FOX News and Google invited a radical Muslim activist, a Bernie Sanders supporter, a Black Lives Matter supporter and a Mexican illegal immigrant to the debate to confront Donald Trump."
If FOX was going to bring those plants to the debate and Trump knows about it, he could in fact use his knowledge to show how FOX was trying to ambush him AT THE DEBATE.
Ask Meghan if she knew these people were in fact plants ahead of time. He could have done a lot worse damage by calling them out at the debate.
As for what they are, I don't see how those are necessarily even damaging Trump. A black lives matter activist? All the candidates should weigh in on black lives matter and show how extremist it actually is as a stance. The muslim activist? That could get the candidates to talk about what's happening in Cologne and Europe. The Mexican illegal immigrant? That gets them to talk about illegal immigration. The Bernie Sanders supporter wanting super big govt? That gives all the repubs a chance to slam Bernie Sanders and his ridiculous views.
In other words, even if they are plants, they are asking questions that Republicans can have answers for.
They are certainly going to be asked about black lives matter, and muslims and Immigration at the debate with democrats, right?
Yeah, O'Reilly is a real dogged interviewer, wouldn't never let no politicians tell him what to ask... Which only proves that the tongue-baths he gave Obama were consensual.
David Begley said... [hush][hide comment]
If Bill breached his agreement with Donald does that mean Trump no longer likes O'Reilly? Will he boycott the show?
More NY WWE drama.
We need Vince McMahon to work a truce between these two titans.
Donald Trump wrestled Vince McMahon several years ago. He kicked Vince's ass and shaved his head like a two bit punk in the joint. Gonna do the same to Hillary. Then, he gonna send his army looking for the "David Begleys" who been dissin' him.
Be afraid. Be very afraid !
Message to Trump: Being President is not about you. It is about serving American citizens.
We currently have the "me" president. Disaster.
Ann Coulter said:
Conservative pundits keep assuring clueless viewers that Trump is not a "real Republican." They seem not to grasp that most viewers are saying, That's fantastic! Thanks for reminding me. (I look forward to conservative talk show hosts 20 years hence billing themselves as "Trump Republicans.")
But Ann is on republicans cases because they essentially are acting like Trump. Big govt program types not shrinking govt. When Obama was implementing Obama stimulus she wanted repubs to fight him on it. Trump was out praising it.
So is her argument that the Republicans are bad for not fighting hard enough or for fighting at all?
If the Repubs dropped the pertinence they were for small govt and simply embraced the suck, would Ann like them more?
Her argument makes no sense.
"You have no idea about Ted's organization in Iowa and his ties to pastors. He has been to all 99 counties and met people personally."
Yawn...Trump's ahead in the polls already. He'll take Iowa, but if I'm wrong I'll quit posting here.
How about you? Do you have the self control to admit you are wrong and STFU? I doubt it. You are the poster child for OCD.
I look forward to Ann coulter embracing, like her buddy Donald, obamas stimulus, universal health care, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, the touchback immigration program of K bailey Hutchinson and all sorts of other non republican ideas that she has vilified in her books.
In 2000 she said: "This is the way addled liberals really think. Even as they champion sucking the brains out of little babies, they think of themselves as indelibly compassionate because they favor an overweening, behemoth federal government."
Hmm, who else do I know who is TOTALLY pro choice, even to the point of supporting partial birth abortion, and apparently big govt?
So in what addled way is Ann thinking?
"If FOX was going to bring those plants to the debate and Trump knows about it, he could in fact use his knowledge to show how FOX was trying to ambush him AT THE DEBATE."
Cucks and beta schlubs simply don't understand the alpha concept of controlling the frame. Trump is the grandmaster at it and why he has everyone flailing about in a state of emotional turmoil.
Was the original Megyn Kelly question that beyond acceptable journalistic standards?
The endless personal attacks against Megyn over many, many days following that old debate were not directed only at her. Trump was sending a signal to other journalists formulating tough questions.
Imagine if Fox had relented and let Trunp pick which journalists could and could not participate in media events. This is candidate Trump pushing his power to the limit in the name of journalistic suppression. I see the principles Fox news is defending. Besides raw personal power, what is Trump fighting for here?
AReasonableMan is running circles around the Trumpophobes today. He's doing such a good job that I may take the afternoon off to play golf. Thanks, ARM!
Paul
I will see Trump on Sunday. I will give him your kind regards.
I do hope that Cruz wins Iowa, but I'll be happy if its Trump also. Heck, I'll even be happy is Carson somehow pulls it out.
My bigger concern is New Hamphsire. I'd hate to see a Jeb or Kasich win there.
"I will see Trump on Sunday. I will give him your kind regards."
Will you able to keep from shaking with rage, spittle flying everywhere?
FOX News and Google invited a radical Muslim activist, a Bernie Sanders supporter, a Black Lives Matter supporter and a Mexican illegal immigrant to the debate to confront Donald Trump.
Here are some people NOT invited:
* a farmer
* a police officer
* a border-patrol officer
* a military officer
* an unemployed computer programmer
* a banker
* a small-business owner
* a church pastor
* a construction worker
The Drudge report headline should've read: "Two blowhards stroke each other's ego's for 15 minutes". The only interesting thing said during that exchange was Trump's observation that there are too many debates.
I watched most of the O'Reilly segment with Trump. (Came in a bit late.) It was quite an amiable interview. Trump was firm but friendly. Sounds like they know each other pretty well. Both were trying not to make the Fox-Trump feud into their personal feud.
Paul said...
"I will see Trump on Sunday. I will give him your kind regards." -- Begley
Will you able to keep from shaking with rage, spittle flying everywhere?
My sentiments exactly.
This is starting to look like The Battle of the Bulge; and General Trump's Army has just spotted the foreign owned Fox Army dressed up in stolen American uniforms switching the road signs. So he pushed them aside and has the Trump Armored Campaign rolling again to relieve the 101st in Bastogne, Iowa.
"L'Audace, L'Audace, toujours L'Audace," says The Donald, and the Iowa Hawkeyes Wrestlers who endorse his tactics too.
Begley said:
1. All the New York focus on his celebrity friends. Think of the deals he will do with his NY buddies. Goldman Sachs will move into the Lincoln bedroom full time. Screw Wisconsin.
2. Just get into your mind's eye how the current Mrs. Trump will redecorate our White House. Puke.
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Terrific arguments there, Begs! A couple of questions:
1. When did Goldman Sachs move out? They've been living there these past eight years.
2. Decorating choices trump (swidt?) leadership and policy issues?
I just pray that you aren't from Nebraska.
This election will be one by the candidate who elicits the least visceral disgust, not good news for Hillary.
Nyamujal said... If your ideology is driven by fear, someone who promises to make everything better can seem very attractive.
1/28/16, 9:27 AM
Yes, like the ideology of the guy who said, "Never let a crisis go to waste". And the ideology of the guy who stumped hard for the $1 Trillion dollar boondoggle called the financial panic of '08 by declaring that a worldwide economic collapse and depression would result if they didn't, then followed that with the $900 Billion dollar bait and switch called The Stimulus by declaring that America's roads and bridges were in desperate and dangerous conditions, and that it was absolutely imperative that billions of dollars be spent to restore them while bolstering the economy by adding tens of thousands of "shovel-ready jobs". 8 years later and the same crooks and liars are still lamenting the state of our bridges and highways, and the main doom-and-gloomer laughed out loud about how those shovel-ready jobs weren't so ready after all....ha-ha-ha, just kidding America, thanks for the trillions, see ya, wouldn't want to be ya....
"cable news doesn't depend enough on ad revenue for this to happen"
It depends somewhat on ad revenue, otherwise they would be showing something much cheaper to produce on that channel. If they didn't want to draw viewers, an infinite loop of a cymbal-playing monkey would do as well as paying a few hundred expensive salaries plus millions to "talent" like O'Reilley.
And viewers also determine the cost-benefit of the cost to keep the channel on. Beyond aboveboard payouts for ads, these channels/shows are political assets that offer value in trades for favors for the owners.
Milkshake! I love it. I've been using independent front suspension for year. When describing Kim Kardasian, it's fully independent suspension.
I can't wait to use "strawberry milkshake" once I get that final disc of Mad Men from Netflix.
O'Reilly's begathon was both entertaining and appalling to watch.
I wonder how much cabbage he was offered if were able to get Donny to get back in the debate. O'Reilly was utterly shameless in his begging. He offered to give Trump a bj if only he would show up. No pride. No wonder Trump was affable and smiling, he was enjoying O'Reilly's and Fox's abasement. I suspect Trump was calculating how much Murdoch was willing to pay Bill to get him back into the show.
My wife who used to be in television is wondering how much of a ratings boost CNN will get tonight while Trump is on and how much of a drop off Fox is going receive without Trump. Must see TV.
Imagine if Fox had relented and let Trunp pick which journalists could and could not participate in media events.
Careful selection of words here, readers. Notice it’s “media events,” instead of “debate.” No mention of the childish, awkward, insulting statement that was released by Fox. No mention of the activist ambush Ailes and Kelly had planned for Trump. If Trump knew about the activists he had a right to be pissed. If he didn’t he has the right to be even more pissed at Fox’s dirty tricks subterfuge. It’s supposed to be a debate, not a circus with dirty tricks sprung in the center ring by Ring Master Kelly.
But I want to attack this assumption from a different direction. The truth is that these events they label as “debates” are nothing more than group interviews. Real debates usually feature two speakers going head to head and have different rules than these interviews do.
The question for me then becomes does a candidate get to pick who interviews the candidate.
The answer is: They certainly do – by custom and by right, the exception perhaps being a “town hall” type of event. But even in a town hall activists should be thrown out if they attempt to disrupt the proceedings. Fox wanted to feature these assholes.
And then the label of “journalists.” Megyn Kelly doesn’t meet that standard which is why she was the star moderator at the first debate and who was given a question impossible to defend. That first debate, as is this one upcoming were designed to give Kelly credibility and gravitas as a “journalist.”
Trump had no chance at all with that question from Kelly in the first debate. Remember, readers, there were several “examples” of Trump’s alleged improper attitude toward womankind flung at Trump by Ms. Kelly in that one question. To try to explain each incident cited would have required Trump spend a lot of precious time outlining the context of each remark, explaining relationships in depth, his own state of mind, etc. ad infinitum. It was a loaded question designed like a shotgun round loaded with buckshot to leave Trump without a chance in hell to defend himself. And maybe that’s why Trump is no longer going to play Fox’s games. He cannot be trifled with like previous GOP candidates who go to these “debates” like a cow led into the slaughter pen by hostile “moderators” such as Candy Crowley.
The cascade is coming.
deranged irrational Trump supporter
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/692672615425691648
I don't like Trump, but I sort of respect him.
Pam Geller has also come around and is pro-Trump now, just because the Fox and Establishment GOP guys have all ganged up to destroy him for daring to have winning voter support when the Repubbies are supposed to lose again.
I just assumed "milkshake" was some new slang term for a particularly risky sexual act.
It's funnier that way, anyway.
Right now I am watching the “undercard.” I will not watch the main Fox debate. I’ll record it in case I need to view it afterwards for research purposes. All the highlights will be on the cables tomorrow. I’ll watch instead the Trump rally because Trump is my candidate, is entertaining and I’m interested in his message.
As for the main Fox debate – something I will be looking for to happen are those activists that Fox was going to unleash at the debate before Trump pulled out. Apparently the activists were a closely guarded secret. If those activists, which I think were cooked up solely to derail Trump, are not trotted out to question the candidates at the Fox debate I believe that will prove that Fox was out to get Trump by using dirty tricks.
http://tinyurl.com/hhnnt8w
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