Inside are stained glass windows depicting such characters as George Berkeley and Jonathan Edwards. It's quite a venue.
Here's the the Yale Daily News report on last night's teach-in. Excerpt:
The forum... opened with two spoken word poems performed by black female students. The first highlighted the lack of support that black men offer their female counterparts. Both poems brought audience members to their feet in a standing ovation.I'd like to see video of that. Strange to begin with what sounds like an attack on black men. A real crowd-pleaser, we're told.
“I want to make sure that I’m moving towards the informed camp and moving myself away from the ignorant camp,” Molly Zeff ’07 SOM ’16 said. “This is a fight that’s only going to be possible if the people who most benefit from systemic racism, which include myself, are fully aware of the people who most suffer from systemic racism.”
Mojique Tyler ’19 expressed similar sentiments, adding that he could not sit idly by while his community is experiencing problems and challenges.... Describing himself as a black, atheist, agender and Jewish individual with one parent who is white, Tyler... said the struggle of identity that the forum touched upon was relevant to his own experiences....
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Why would any aware and loving parent want to send their son or daughter to an undergraduate program at Yale University?
Burn.
The.
System.
Down.
College is unneeded and superfluous. It doesn't educate. It doesn't promote any interesting ideas. It is little more than a cancer.
Republicans, who run most states, have ZERO need to protect the fucking idiots who run the show and oppose them.
Defund it all.
Then kill off the student loan program. Kill off ALL research grants to any self-professed universities.
Let them wither on the vine.
Then tax their endowments. Heavily.
Then put term limits on government employment.
Then do away with tax benefits involving non-profits.
Kill the snake.
"black, atheist, agender and Jewish"? Oh my god, what have they been teaching? Certainly not logic. Judaism is a religion, not a race. You can't be atheist and Jewish. You can't be "agender".
"Molly Zeff ’07 SOM ’16 said. “This is a fight that’s only going to be possible if the people who most benefit from systemic racism, which include myself, are fully aware of the people who most suffer from systemic racism.”"
I would love to see an interview with Molly Zeff's parents, who are no doubt footing the bill.
I am Laslo.
Jonathan Edward's sermons need some equal time. Free speech and all that.
"The forum... opened with two spoken word poems performed by black female students." This must be a foretaste of Hell.
Is there any way to get them to state, on paper, what a non-racist system would look like? In concrete terms? 'Cause at the moment, I'm kind of feeling like it's a shell game and the pea isn't under any of the cups.
Scott said...Why would any aware and loving parent want to send their son or daughter to an undergraduate program at Yale University?
Because having Yale on your resume, coupled with no arrests or sex offender registrations, is one of the surest ways there is to a comfortable affluent life.
Jonathan Edwards thought God was angry at white anglo-saxon Protestants too. He said REPENT.
That is the same message as the White Privilege fight gives out: Repent all ye turble WASPs
They did not come to Yale to learn; they came to teach. They are sure they already know it all. Does this sound like wisdom to you?
PB, Jew is most certainly an ethnic group. Yes, you can be Jewish and an atheist. Millions, in fact, are.
There are actually good black female poets. You just don't hear from them today. Thylias Moss is one, or anyway was one. Possibly she's fallen in with a bad crowd by now. I think she teaches in Michigan, which profession is certain to provoke survival instincts.
crisis
noun, plural crises
1. a stage in a sequence of events at which nothing much happens.
2. a condition of stability or safety, as in social, economic, political, or international affairs, leading to nothing much happening.
3. a melodramatic emotional upheaval in a person's life even though nothing much happened.
At Yale the other day, there was a debate on Affirmative Action at which the very idea that someone might not wholeheartedly approve of Affirmative Action had some students in tears: http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2015/11/11/ypu-debates-affirmative-action/
I note that the article doesn't say which side won the debate when it went to a vote. That makes me assume Amy Wax did. I also note that although it mentions the Buckley free speech conference brouhaha, it doesn't mention that protestors spats on some departing members of the audience and called some of the minority attendees race traitors.
I think of poor black children stuck in horrible schools and in an horrible environment.
THAT's racism - both the legacy of it and the current neglect about it; THAT is what we should be working to fix.
A bunch of spoiled young men and women attending the top schools in the world - in most cases for free - are simply NOT suffering from racism.
What a damned crazy world we live in.
Wiki: "The first Occupy protest to receive widespread attention was Occupy Wall Street in New York City's Zuccotti Park, which began on 17 September 2011. By 9 October, Occupy protests had taken place or were ongoing in over 951 cities across 82 countries, and over 600 communities in the United States."
Fall 2011, before the 2012 election. Coincidence?
Is the strategy to stoke a pointless protest movement -- not to accomplish anything -- but with the goal that the inevitable disappointment and disaffection translates into a "no place else to go," youth GOTV push for the Democrat nominee?
Worked for Obama. Not sure Hillary can replicate.
I'm not surprised young black women would cheer another black woman who calls black men out for not supporting them. A disproportionate number of black women are single parents, and a disproportionate number of black babies are aborted. The black civil rights movement of the 60's never acknowledged the role of black women in the movement. Stokely Carmichael once said, "The role of women in the SNCC is prone." Black women face more disrespect from black men than they do from white people. Besides that, the current state of the black family, which is in much worse shape than it was in the days of segregation, allows white people to dismiss any complaints about racism until black families clean up their act. Ask any black woman whether she'd rather be some black guy's baby mama or his wife and see what she says.
It's become apparent that amongst a certain sect of young people in this country the most coveted position is victimhood. Being a victim (or a member of victimized class) grants one attention, sympathy, and power. These are all things that pathological narcissists seek. It's certainly a strange state of affairs.
"The teach-in... ... was organized by the University’s four cultural centers: the Afro-American Cultural Center, the Native American Cultural Center, the Asian American Cultural Center and La Casa Cultural."
Play Rock/Paper/Scissors with that.
I know they list four Cultural Centers, not three, but everyone knows the Asian American Cultural center is not taken seriously.
I am Laslo.
Nurse Rooke said...
I note that the article doesn't say which side won the debate when it went to a vote. That makes me assume Amy Wax did.
She uses numbers and logic 'n' stuff.
IOW, she cheats.
"Several students cried during her speech."
Awwww.
I want to make sure that I’m moving towards the informed camp and moving myself away from the ignorant camp,
And while I'm at it, avoid the re-education camp.
#nottheonion
I'm offended by these people. Where's my safe space?
"Is the strategy to stoke a pointless protest movement -- not to accomplish anything -- but with the goal that the inevitable disappointment and disaffection translates into a "no place else to go," youth GOTV push for the Democrat nominee? "
Yes.
"the people who most suffer from systemic racism"
Referring to Asian applicants and students, right?
My mental health professional (and boy do I need one) needs to reflect my ethnicity. Cries from the Yalies.
Help, I'm having a heart attack, please find me a doctor reflecting my ethnicity. Cries from no one ever in the history of the world.
Mojique Tyler ’19 expressed similar sentiments, adding that he could not sit idly by while his community is experiencing problems and challenges.... Describing himself as a black, atheist, agender and Jewish individual with one parent who is white, Tyler... said the struggle of identity that the forum touched upon was relevant to his own experiences....
Wouldn't this be solved by moving away from identity labels? Can't Mojique just be himself? Why isn't that enough?
"The forum... opened with two spoken word poems performed by black female students."
How does one create a poem except with words? And how in such a venue would one communicate the poem except by speaking?
The descriptor "performed by" suggests that these were not merely recited, but somehow acted out; or the recitation was accompanied by dance moves, actions, etc.
A new literary form, and what an impressive inauguration, at the very creation of Snowflake* Nation.
Wait: Snowflake ---> white. Can there be Snowflakes of Color? Is this language not just suffused with racissst culture?
Help!
Hmmmm.
One of the demands at Mizzou had to do with mental health hiring for minorities.
I'm sensing someone's agenda here.
@Ann "Up until" are you serious?
Affirmative Action is the root of the problems at Yale and the University of Missouri. Nearly all colleges lower standards to achieve desired percentages. Why? The elite schools (like Yale) accept all of the top black students and then to fill numbers take some more that would do perfectly fine at lower tier schools (like Mizzou). Because there aren't enough qualified students to go around, schools all the way down must compromise standards. If you're a black student who enrolls at the best school who admitted you, it's likely many of your Asian and white peers will have higher SAT's and GPA's than you did. Dropout rates among black students are much higher and this is no surprise. College is not the easiest time for any of us, so why do we place a special burden on black students?
Help, I'm having a heart attack, please find me a doctor reflecting my ethnicity. Cries from no one ever in the history of the world.
I would be delighted to have a cardiologist who reflects my ethnicity.
If he's agender, it is hostile to say he "describes himself." Should be "itself."
And I'm impressed itself, as a self described atheist, could endure a get-together in a chapel. Very hostile to hold the gathering there since its hostile to atheists.
The amount of navel gazing going on is astounding.
From the Article:
The forum centered around four panels
Althouse are you finding these poorly-written screeds just to torment me?
I'd link directly to my comment in this thread, but I've forgotten how to do that.
Eleanor @ 9:41 AM: "...Besides that, the current state of the black family, which is in much worse shape than it was in the days of segregation, allows white people to dismiss any complaints about racism until black families clean up their act..."
Indeed. I beileve the single mother statistic is about 80% now? When the overwhelming cultural norm is being a baby mama, how does a woman even conceive (sorry) of matrimony as possible, let alone understand its value, never mind develop the bargaining power to achieve it?
As for "allow[ing] white people to dismiss any complaints..." I happen to be white but I don't think that descriptor is entirely relevant. Any policymaker, of any color/gender/etc etc etc, faces the same question: what incentives work? What is the best allocation of resources? America has poured trillions into this project and things seem to be worse than ever. The only thing worse than refusing to give money to a loser, is to give the money and then listen to all the excuses as to why more money is needed. It's not so much the irritation of being played, it's the fact that the loser really believes his BS excuses. Or has to pretend to believe it, which is even worse.
"Mojique Tyler ’19 expressed similar sentiments, adding that he could not sit idly by while his community is experiencing problems and challenges.... Describing himself as a black, atheist, agender and Jewish individual with one parent who is white."
Great! Now she can hate herself!
(Yes, I stole that line from SNL's good year.)
Agender. Agender!
Ann Althouse said...Strange to begin with what sounds like an attack on black men
Prof, the preferred terms is "black and brown bodies," so complaints about black men not doing enough to support black women is an "attack on black men's bodies."
Now, the complaint is coming from black women, and those women are presumably on the Left, so this complaint is fine, it's not racist. It's a who-whom thing, you understand.
Tyler also said the struggle of identity that the forum touched upon was relevant to his own experiences.
Who among us really knows who they are in College? Tyler seems to think, as suggested in a previous thread today, that people unburdened with mixed race heritage float through life easy as you please.
Here's a secret to give College Students: Don't Care what other people think of you. Do not seek approval from anyone, live your life as you please. Note: You do have to seek approval from your Boss; if you don't want that, start your own company. You do have to seek approval from your spouse too, but marriage is optional anyway.
"black, atheist, agender and Jewish"
It's because of crap like this that the old-guard commies were so doctrinaire. They knew that dealing with lefty radicals was like herding cats, so they pushed party discipline from the top down.
"Yeah, well, we're sorry that you're oppressed by racism, sexism, antisemitism, etc, but class struggle takes precedent over all of that. Period. End of discussion."
I'm not saying the old guard commies were nice people, because they certainly weren't. But, they knew who & what they were dealing with as their potential membership.
Life is hard. Civilization/society places restraints upon us (yes, a little Freud there). We fail. People are mean to us. Sometimes our friends - what we thought were out friends - abandon us. We're used.
It's life.
It's not racism.
These young men and women are given incredible opportunities at one of the top schools in the world. If they use these opportunities correctly they are set for life.
But instead of seeing opportunities they see obstacles. Obstacles put there because of their race.
Racism exists. Yes. Black people have been horribly mistreated and to a degree still are.
But this is not an example of that.
Describing himself as a black, atheist, agender and Jewish individual with one parent who is white
Wow! Talk about hitting the SJW jackpot!
"I would love to see an interview with Molly Zeff's parents, who are no doubt footing the bill."
If she's a Sister, we are no doubt footing the bill.
Both poems brought audience members to their feet in a standing ovation.
Well, I would hope they had the decency to snap and not clap.
Let me know when the saucers land.
We ended up here because we as a society didn't blow raspberries at the first puffed-up donkey to intone the idiotic phrase "people of color".
Now we don't have a society.
(Just for fun I Ctrl-F'd that article for "intersectionality". Lol, and there it was.)
A disproportionate number of black women are single parents, and a disproportionate number of black babies are aborted.
There is such an easy response to this. It's simple: Don't put out. If you don't want to get knocked up, if you don't want to have to have an abortion, if you want respect from men of ANY color, just keep your legs closed.
Thus endeth the lesson.
"Several students cried during her speech."
Ace reports that Yale students couldn't go to class because they were too upset about offensive Halloween costumes. Not that they saw the costumes but because they saw an email that said it would be wrong to ban the costumes and they should just ignore them.
I used to be sorry that these children were never going to become adults, then I realized that they would be competing with my kids, so rock on Yalies!
The problem isn't systemic racism, but rather denigration of individual dignity and debasement of human life. Stop judging people as a class unless it's on principle. Stop choosing/aborting and planning/cannibalizing wholly innocent human lives. Stop constructing congruences to avoid reconciliation.
A question for the Professor - What, precisely, is the new-fangled "systemic racism" we are hearing so much about? Is the student body at Wisconsin similarly oppressed?
F.G.
The problem is I don't know what they really want. Yes, they feel hurt/victimized, but really with a clear idea of a resolution it just feels like unhealthy codependency if I even engage with this type of crowd.
Don't put out. If you don't want to get knocked up, if you don't want to have to have an abortion, if you want respect from men of ANY color, just keep your legs closed.
First of all, I want to thank all the women that put out for me. You are all still young, beautiful, and vibrant in my mind....and no I won't friend you on Facebook.
"Don't put out." It's almost like birth control is non-existent in some communities. Which I know is not true.
So, there must be something else creating an incentive for unwanted babies.
Are the women are trying to guilt the man into a long term relationship?
Is there some welfare benefit creating this incentive?
Are they just stupid?
Some years ago, I was bullshitting with my insurance guy. A black man I have been doing business with since early eighties. He was a mechanical engineer before getting into insurance. He was telling me how he got promoted at Lockheed after Hubert Humphrey noted there were not many black men in high positions there. He laughed when I mentioned token Negro.
Couple months later, my elderly black ophthalmologist, gave me a casual history lesson about some old time black man inventing tool the tool for testing eye pressure (or something)
Being kind of thick, it was only later I realized these pleasant conversations were the result of new president Obama calling for a "conversation about race'
Now, I personally feel things are so tense, I avoid visiting these men.
The first highlighted the lack of support that black men offer their female counterparts
Which is entirely the fault of Black women who disrespect and marginalize Black men, while sleeping with them out of wedlock.
By the way, who is raising these Black men to be unsupportive to Black women?
Are we, in the end, inventing a new racism/ism fixation?
It sounds as if young people think your various by-birth identities are now the most important thing about you!
If we are going to through away a basic humanism, not much good will happen to our culture afterwards.
"I'd like to see video of that. Strange to begin with what sounds like an attack on black men. A real crowd-pleaser, we're told."
It's not strange. They blame whites for this, or the racist system created by whites to oppress them. They do this because they are insane and because they see it as a path to power.
If you consider yourself a member of an unjustly oppressed minority, how much do you prize democracy and free speech rights for your oppressors?
Maybe it's normal to want babies. They're not necessarily unwanted. It stinks, dad isn't involved.
That's the trade off with birth control, you can get a man easily, but for him to be a father is ten times harder.
Birth control always has method/personal failure rates, so choose carefully who you have sex with. A hookup can turn into an 18 year coparenting arrangement
Sure sounds like a frightening hysteria is sweeping across college campuses with each school's students determined to not be left out of the race to cry racism- White students accusing themselves of racism and white privilege, and black students agreeing and segregating them accordingly. Could someone get these kids some firing squads to finish the job?
Since blacks are now a group, are we allowed to demand they apologize for the crimes of their worst members?
They seem to expect that of us.
And what happens when the tolerance of the majority...runs out? Calling somebody trying to be nice to you an asshole constantly is going to make them stop wanting to be nice to you. The last few years have already changed me to the point where I assume a rape claim is false and all racism claims are hoaxes.
It sounds as if young people think your various by-birth identities are now the most important thing about you!
Looking at these kids, they are probably right. There isn't anything else to them at all.
traditionalguy said...
Jonathan Edward's sermons need some equal time. Free speech and all that.
11/12/15, 9:28 AM
Sinners in the Hands of an Angry Student
"Do you think of Yale as a religious institution?"
Well, as a famous Yale LS alum might say, it depends on the meaning of "religious." Not in any standard way, certainly not in any recognizably Christian way, but very much so in a European-style, post-Christian way. And that's been true for a long time.
A little history is helpful to get the context. Battell Chapel provided the pulpit for Wm Sloane Coffin in the 1960s. While he often presided on Sunday mornings at a non-denominational service (I occasionally stopped in to hear him), his usual sermon might start with a nod to some Biblical text but quickly became all about social and political issues of the day, all viewed from a decidedly lefty perspective. I don't know who the current chaplain at Battell is, but I have no doubt that on Sunday mornings, if you wandered into Battell, you'd hear the same kind of talk. I suspect that the only difference would be the particular social and political issues up for discussion, but still viewed from the same lefty perspective.
Despite his sometimes over-the-top approach, Coffin always struck me as a good and decent man, and he had the sense to pick issues that at least merited the heavy moralizing that he brought to them (the War and the civil rights battles of the 60s being the two most prominent ones). I didn't necessarily agree with him, but respected his seriousness of purpose. Today's 'crisis' at Yale (and Mizzou) seems more ephemeral. The immediate occasion for all the fuss (the hypothetical Halloween costume silliness at Yale, and the even less specific complaints at Mizzou) are the opposite of serious. Underneath all that noise, I get the feeling that the main source of complaint is a feeling on the part of the protesting black students that they feel they don't quite fit in. For their part, they both want and don't want to be identified (pigeon-holed) as hyphenated members of the academic community; for the larger academic community, they provide a helpful diversity statistic and so are always thought of with the hyphen (i.e., an exemplar of a group, not an individual).
Strange, really strange. And there's no real solution. After all the noise and poetry readings and declarations of solidarity, I suspect things will go on pretty much as they did before, except that the players in this drama will be more wary of each other as everyone waits for the next eruption.
It's only one letter from racist to rapist.
The little twerps at Yale probably sneer at "Faux News".
Out in the real world, we're entitled to sneer at a faux "crisis" among the Yalies.
They're all overreactionaries.
"Do you think of Yale as a religious institution?"
The Yale Divinity School is considered maybe the best in the country w/ many notable grads including, Gary Hart, John Danforth, and Calvin Hill, who I watched dominate the Ivy League running the football back in the 60's.
Didn't Eli Yale make his money in the Southeast Asia opium trade, or something like that?
How come these sensitive souls are attending a school founded on such a terrible legacy?
How many angers can dance on the head of a pin.
Nice. Missouri protestors kicked the white allies out into their own, separate group.
Apparently, the Missouri protestors are on the same page as the segregationists. All the hubbub MO had to deal with in regards to busing, clearly, was a waste of time.
The idiots want to be alone. Be alone. White progressives need to realize that these people HATE you. It doesn't matter if you're "on their side" --- they STILL hate you.
Yale bookstore: Karl Mart.
So, the problem is not actually "systemic racism", but the construction of congruences, including the State establishment of pro-choice doctrine, class diversity, gender ambiguity, anti-native policies, progressive morality, etc., that have normalized or promoted dysfunctional orientations and behaviors.
Pikers. Only filled a chapel? We filled Barton Hall - Cornell spring 1969. Thousands of lunatics, myself included. Good times.
They use the chapel to put the demon back in demonstrate.
Anglelyne said...
We ended up here because we as a society didn't blow raspberries at the first puffed-up donkey to intone the idiotic phrase "people of color".
Yes, it sounds like Newspeak, but I was surprised to see that silly phrase in Thwaite's "Early Western Travels", which consists of papers from 1748 to 1846.
Usage peaked in about 1830 according to ngram.
People at Yale want to claim the system has been bad to them? I'm sure all the townies are crying a river.
People at Yale want to claim the system has been bad to them?
I'll let the white janitor here know how much better he has it than a minority Yale grad. He'd be made a bit happier to know that.
My son is a grad student at Missouri. He tells me that this weekend is Mizzou's annual "whiteout" game, where everyone is supposed to wear white.
Fernandinande: Yes, it sounds like Newspeak, but I was surprised to see that silly phrase in Thwaite's "Early Western Travels", which consists of papers from 1748 to 1846.
Usage peaked in about 1830 according to ngram.
Interesting tidbit. Thanks. To whom is it applied in Thwaite's papers? I'm guessing similar usage to "colored people" later on?
(Aside: "People of color. Colored people".)
"I used to be sorry that these children were never going to become adults, then I realized that they would be competing with my kids, so rock on Yalies!"
Amen. Engineering students everywhere are laughing their asses off.
"Why would any aware and loving parent want to send their son or daughter to an undergraduate program at Yale University?"
I may be able to answer that.
When my son got into Yale (not as the beneficiary of any special preference), we watched him experience a degree of happiness that we had never seen before. For the first time, he felt that years of toil that had begun in middle school had been recognized and rewarded. We are not tiger parents, but for some reason this child of ours had a focus and will to succeed that came out of nowhere. Night after night, weekend after weekend--reading, reading, reading. What parent would thwart their child's desire to enjoy the fruits of all that effort? And Yale actually has a fairly rigorous undergraduate program, at least for those who abjure the multitude of "social justice" type courses.
The protestors that you see on the news are not the majority of Yale undergraduates. Most are like my son: career-oriented grinds, trying to ignore the protests and get on with their studies until the madness abates. Those students are the victims of a spineless and hypocritical administration that continues to appease the thugs and bullies. At the beginning of last year, the president of Yale gave a speech extolling the importance of free speech on campus. Fine sentiments, but did he mean it? Apparently not, since Professor Christakis has now been forced to issue a groveling apology. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/11/09/hundreds-march-at-yale-in-solidarity-with-minority-students/
It is worth noting that all of this insanity started after Yale announced that it will spend $50 million to "increase faculty diversity." http://news.yale.edu/2015/11/03/yale-launches-five-year-50-million-initiative-increase-faculty-diversity. That's a lot of African-American Studies professors. But the agitators still insist that Yale is deeply racist institution that is indifferent to their needs. No one dares to contradict them.
I despair, not just for Yale, but for our country.
"God and Man at Yale" by William F. Buckley (1951) -- go read it.
Mojique Tyler totally looks like a dude https://www.ronbrown.org/class/2015/mojique-tyler
steve uhr: My son is a grad student at Missouri. He tells me that this weekend is Mizzou's annual "whiteout" game, where everyone is supposed to wear white.
Hilarity ensues.
Maybe this had something to do with the hilarity that ensued yesterday - "The KKK has been confirmed to be sighted on campus"?
National Drama-Queening Alert Center issues warning: Melt-down imminent. Repeat, melt-down imminent...
New Haven is a dump. Once you leave Yale you are in the ghetto big time. My car was broke into in New Haven.
New Haven does have the best pizza joints in the country though.
muscles and tits
Somebody: I despair, not just for Yale, but for our country.
I like to think that your son and others like him will one day effect an academic reconquista and restore sanity to the great universities (and the less exalted ones, too). After all, the crazies started their "Long March" with a single step.
"Molly Zeff ’07 SOM ’16 said. “This is a fight that’s only going to be possible if the people who most benefit from systemic racism, which include myself, are fully aware of the people who most suffer from systemic racism.”"
Shorter Molly Zeff: I hope the crocodile eats me last.
I'm just glad William F. Buckley, Jr. is not alive to see this.
Tyler is one confused MF. Got to wake up every morning and decide which/what he be today.
The protestors that you see on the news are not the majority of Yale undergraduates.
Most Germans at the time weren't Nazis, either.
Describing himself as a whole buncha check marks on the victimized list
There used to be a joke about desperately searching for a gay, black woman in a wheel chair. Turns out the joke was WAY too limited.
(And I'd be heart sick if I were the parent that made the list as - oh yeah, there was a cracker in the wood pile.)
Were white males given guidance regarding whether they should applaud the criticism of black males? Sounds like a correctness crisis in the making. Must have made them feel anxious and unsafe, not knowing what they were supposed to do.
These recent protests are largely a consequence of Affirmative Action.
Universities are admitting too many students without sufficient maturity, intelligence and education for university study and culture.
A significant portion of the students are failing academically and will fail professionally after they leave the university.
And so they are frightened and are throwing temper tantrums.
Anglelyne said...
To whom is it applied in Thwaite's papers?
IIRC, it was Caribbean natives (Indians) ...tho it's been a long time since I read it; I got bored by the stuff later than about 1800 so it wasn't the cite below.
The Library of Congress has a very deficient version online, complete with a broken search engine.
American Notes: Travels in America(**), 1750-1920
0 Items containing the exact words "people of color".
The first item returned contained the exact words "people of color":
"Of this vast multitude[link might be temporary], there is no city in the world composed of so many different nations. You have here 20,000 free negroes, or as they are called people of color; 50,000 Germans and Dutch; 100,000 Irish, besides French, Danes, Swiss, Welsh, English, Scotch, Italians, Turks, Chinese, Swedes, Russians, Norwegians, Poles, Hungarians, Spaniards, Sicilians, Africans, and, in short, a few of all the nations upon the earth; though you see neither priests, beggars, soldiers, nor drunken men. There are supposed to be 50,000 people who arrive at and depart from New York every day." (1855 or so).
**I started out at "Early Western Travels" and somehow ended up in "Travels in America".
The loc.gov website has some very cool stuff, but terrible access.
The Young Progressive Left is having locally-sourced Soylent Green for dinner.
There seems to be a significant percentage of college students who desperately want to be victims.
Historically that usually results in getting exactly what they want. Also death.
Not good.
It's an old religious revival meeting at Yale. There is an urgent message spoken by evangelists with urgency. Listeners must accept the message, repent of privilege, and be saved. Resist the message, and you are damned. There is no dialogue or debate or difference of opinion, for the message of Critical Race Theory is the Gospel Truth.
The religious revival idea was suggested to me by Jonathan Edwards and his involvement in the First Great Awakening.
Maybe I can get in on this Spoken Word Thing.
My whiteness
Oppresses me
Like a suit too small
Or shoes too tight
The suit and shoes
are the clothes of my culture
my outdated culture!
my irrelevant culture!
white are my chains
white is my sin
kept in a cubicle
and adrift in reports
I cry out
but the black janitor
pretends not to hear
His authenticity ignores me
as he pretends to sweep
what whites have
carelessly left behind
my disposable culture!
my impermanent culture!
Oh for the sweet darkness
of a thousand vultures
to consume my
White skin
Janitor, my car is yours.
I am Laslo.
Poop Swastika Police Sketch Pops-up...
Link
"Yale bookstore: Karl Mart."
Good one.
My best tweet yet... it's downhill from here.
'Taking offence is a check on where you place in the group. Unchecked offence, however, ultimately undermines equality and justice in my view'
I'm surprised with all this campus activism, there's no real major movement towards things that the schools could and should do something about--bringing down tuition costs, or providing better real world training to make the graduates more employable or even more intelligent. No, instead we get screeching over why the schools aren't eliminating any negative feelings caused by real or imagined slights.
I'd say this is because the students are essentially children, but for crying out loud--almost all of them are technically adults.
Considering what is happening among our elite--and Yale certainly counts as that--we are watching the rot in society take hold. The decline is well under way.
If all of this Missouri brouhaha is over a poop swastika, why aren't the Jewish kids protesting? I haven't seen any mention of the college Hillel center as the inciting group.
White Power
is the Flower
that grew from
the fertile Shit of
Thousands of Slaves
Thousands of Slaves upon
Thousands of Slaves!
A blossom grown on
Slave Shit
and
Watered with the
sweat off the black man's
brow!
Watered with the
sweat off the black man's
back!
And yet I wonder
why the sun
burns my white skin?
My whiteness
offends the sun
and the sky itself!
If I am to be hit by lightning
It is only righteous
I am sorry
Black Jesus
I am Laslo
The defaced swastika has the same significance as drowning Christ in a vat of urine.
Thanks for the link, Lem. This whole-lotta-nothin' case just got a lot more nothin'.
Ol Eli was a crook ---or at least had dealings on the side which were forbidden by his employer, the East India Company. Made a lot of dough though. And he may well have been involved in the slave trade, although what he and he colony of Madras were selling were Indians rather than Africans. See the Wiki entry on Eli.
So I dunno--should a black student go to Yale, the institution being in part founded or at least funded by a fellow involved in the slave trade?
"A moment of Crisis"
Really? "I read an email about Halloween costumes that I disagreed with". This is a crisis?
White Suicide
Stops White Racism
One by One by One
Shotgun?
Rope?
Pills?
A Fall from a
Great Height?
All better Fates
than the undeserved taste of the
Whip
Held by White Hands
Or you can just
Hit me on the Head
with a crow bar, Black Man
if that is more
to your liking.
I am Laslo.
I'd rather get a colonoscopy and a root canal on the same day than go to such a meeting.
I, for one, welcome a future in which MY opinion determines the allowed behavior of every other person on earth.
Wait, what? It isn't MY opinion that counts?
Well, to hell with that! I ain't playing that game!
I'm surprised with all this campus activism, there's no real major movement towards things that the schools could and should do something about- ... providing better real world training to make the graduates more employable or even more intelligent.
Now THAT is funny stuff. These activists kids are not interested in "real world training". Even to mention such a thing would dismiss their world view, cause fear and pain, display you white privilege, far exceed the micro-aggression level... ya heather, ya.
I'm surprised with all this campus activism, there's no real major movement towards things that the schools could and should do something about--bringing down tuition costs, or providing better real world training to make the graduates more employable or even more intelligent. No, instead we get screeching over why the schools aren't eliminating any negative feelings caused by real or imagined slights.
We're in a culture now that prizes victimhood over everything.
These kids' parents and grandparents killed off Western culture, so this is what we're left with.
Maybe it's about men and not Black or White. Maybe it's having a penius that makes you WRONG and BAD. Maybe.
Cracker Emcee wrote:
Amen. Engineering students everywhere are laughing their asses off.
Let them laugh while they can. The number one goal of these Liberal Arts warriors is to tell engineers and business majors what to think and what to do. They have been quite successful so far.
Pity the poor UM-Columbia CSI team having to fingerprint, scrape and spectro-analyse the Scheissehakenkreuz. And how was it that the UM-Columbia PD knew off-the-bat that poop perp scrawled the it in his (I'm assuming it's a "he", contra Tawana Brawley) own Scheisse rather than someone else's.
OTOH, it could have been Cartman's mom.
Ol Eli was a crook...
So were John D. Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie, the Mellon Bros., Leland Stanford and Commodore Vanderbilt.
Blogger JAORE said...
I'm surprised with all this campus activism, there's no real major movement towards things that the schools could and should do something about- ... providing better real world training to make the graduates more employable or even more intelligent.
Go to the chronicle of higher ed website sometime and check out the comments.
It is the purpose of many of these SJW's to reform society until it looks like they want it to look. They not only believe that this is the only legitimate purpose of a university education, they believe that anything the taxpayers have to shell out to pay for this is worth it. You should be grateful to them. To oppose their agenda is an act of ignorance, wickedness, or both. They represent the future the way the nazis represented the German volk.
Fernandinande @11/12/15, 1:31 PM:
Thanks for posting all that (and the heads up for loc.gov). Good stuff.
That is one fucked up generation.
"systemic racism" is a term used by people who can't point to any, you know, actual racism. What it really means is "inequality," but they prefer to cast it in terms of "racism" in order to prey upon guilty white liberals. It's much more effective than saying, "Yale is full of rich kids and the poor black kids feel out of place because they don't have any money."
Carnegie was not a crook. Tough businessman but no crook.
Laslo, those poems were fantastic.
Therm "witch hunt' is often used incorrectly to mean a search for that which does not exist. In fact, in a real seventeenth century witch hunt, a witch was always found.
Once the witch was found, the cruel nature of the witch hunt demanded that the witch be tortured until he or she either confessed or died. If the witch confessed, and later retracted the confession, he or she would be found guilty of perjury, and the penalty for perjury was, of course, death.
The first response of liberals to accusations that by making wild accusations of racism they are engaging in a witch hunt is to ask the accuser if they are denying that racism and racists exist . . .
Birches said...
Laslo, those poems were fantastic.
Thank you for making my day now wonderful...
I am Laslo.
It seems like they are on to us white people now.
Somebody must have lost their secret white privilege card. You know, the one that is a get out of jail free combined with an unlimited credit line that you never have to pay off.
How are we going to get over on people of color now that they know our secret?
I want to know who gave them our secret white privilege PIN number.
"Stokely Carmichael once said, "The role of women in the SNCC is prone."
I imagine that Laslo would be particularly enthusiastic about this position. Personally I prefer supine but that's the missionary in me.
Also in her.
I am surprised that people don't have the correct hierarchy memorized:
Handicapped black lesbian woman>>>black lesbian woman>>>black woman>>>white lesbian>>>white gay man>>>black man>>>anything>>>WASP male.
Frankly, I wouldn't know where to begin to help someone who's black/white, atheist/Jewish, without gender/male with his "struggle of identity." However, if this bio is any indication, Mojique seems to be making the most of his life and gifts despite all the confusion.
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