Meade speculates: "Bernie and Hillary are too old to stand for 3 hours."
Me: "We can't sit through 3 hours."
From my 36-point live-blog of the 3-hour GOP debate:
26. How long is this darned thing? I thought 2 hours. Then I thought 2 and a half. Now, I'm thinking it's going to go on for 3 hours. This is madness!...And the woman has to do the standing in heels, as HuffPo pointed out after the 3-hour GOP debate:
35. After the debate, in an interview, Trump says what he learned is that he can stand for 3 hours. Yeah, that was a severe challenge — having to stand there for 3 hours. It was hard enough to sit through!
"I watched eagerly when Carly Fiorina first walked on stage to see how high her heels were," said our very own Arianna Huffington. "I immediately recognized the heels she was wearing, as I have the same Manolo Blahnik pumps in black. They're high -- 3 1/2 inches! I personally wear them when I know I'm sitting down! I love them and completely understand why she chose them, in terms of style. But, as the debate dragged on, I wondered how uncomfortable she must have been, especially since she didn't just have to stand there looking elegant but being alert and firing on all cylinders...."Who originated that Ginger Rogers line? Ann Richards? No. Frank and Ernest:
But the height of the heel aside, it reminds us of what was once said about actor/dancer Fred Astaire and his legendary dance partner: "Sure he was great, but don't forget Ginger Rogers did everything he did backwards ... and in high heels!"
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Neither Hillary or Bernie can hold their bladder for three hours.
Also: at three hours without vodka Hillary gets the shakes real bad.
Because they are old. And Hillary is a drunk.
To explain.
I am Laslo.
The Republican debate was only about 17 minutes long if you cut out the Trump related questions.
The answer is always the same.
They are doing it to help Democrats win.
The Dem field is much smaller, so they dont need 3 hours of debate.
The Ginger Rogers line works because, on the merits, she was so amazingly talented on the dance floor. Compare to women in the Marine Corps, Recon, who can't meet the basic standards, but insist on joining because.....equality.
Frank and Ernest is the most underrated comic strip out there.
Debates don't help frontrunners. CNN is limiting Hillary's potential damage by limiting the number of questions that can be asked.
I'm sure the Fred Astaire/Ginger Roger quip was out there long before "Frank & Ernest" were even a gleam in their creator's ink bottle. I've heard it for many years. He probably just used it on a day when he was reaching for ideas. How old is that strip reproduced here?
Oh, and Ann Richards certainly didn't invent the line, either.
They haven't that much to say!!
As an amateur Fred Astaire/Ginger Rogers scholar, I've read that Katharine Hepburn said it.
Perhaps if old Can't-Keep-His-Hands-Off-Women decides at the last minute to declare his candidacy then they'll go back to 3 hours.
Be sure to tell old Bernie that the 1930's want their economics textbooks back.
Do we need to see a collection of senile old people butchering talking points?
Also, and let's be blunt --- that collection of dullards is the most boring group of "people"* I've ever seen.
* Nobody believes Hillary is a human
BTW, it took you all this time to realize how tough Carly Fiorina is? Good Lord, Althouse!
Well, if Biden doesn't announce then three hours is probably too much for two candidates. The ratings would be abysmal and the company would take a loss for no public benefit.
I am, however, suspecting that Meade's analysis is also not too far off the mark. The candidates probably bitched like hell. As a debate, it might have ended up being something like that famous old movie "They Shoot Horses, Don't They?" It was about a marathon dance contest in the Depression - last one standing gets the prize money.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065088/
It's asking a lot to expect two aging presidential candidates to sound energetically intelligent for three hours.
Only the looniest Lefty would watch three hours of Bernie and Hillary. The longer it runs, the lower the overall ratings, the more marked the contrast with the Republican debates. There's a psychological peril as well as bored people switch it off or change the channel, effectively dismissing the candidates.
1) CNN couldn't come up with 3 hours of questions.
2) CNN couldn't find advertisers for the third hour of the debate, when most will have turned it off.
3) Hillary demanded a 15 minutes infomercial instead of a debate, so this was the best compromise CNN could come up with.
Ginger Rogers is an underrated actress as well. I'll Be Seeing You may be my favorite movie acting-wise, except for Shirley Temple's performance, which for whatever reason seemed rather clueless.
It will only take an hour for Hillary to lose 20 points off her polls.
Three hours between a communist and a leftist grifter would be 2.50 minutes longer than necessary. Hillary is already walking back her trade deal so how long a time is needed to debate who can out left the other?
Okay, I can't stand it any longer.
Laszlo.
They need Biden to give it some life.
HilLIEerly will promote all abortion all of the time, proposing skipping Planned Parenthood and giving out instant bonus checks for the killing of your kids.
Sanders will re-namet the FBI the KGB to assist in redistribution of Rubles for the starving masses.
Biden could at least repeat some tear jerker emotional stories that he read somewhere...with feeling.
I would have been interested in seeing a little more of Martin O'Malley and Jim Webb and that xenomorph from Rhode Island on the off case they tried to shake things up.
Yeah, right! Two hours of hard hitting questions like: What's on your iPod, whats your favorite color? then wind it all up with: "Kittens? or Puppies?"
God I hate that Ginger Rogers line. The fact is, watch any of their routines. Astaire quite literally danced circles around her. I'd estimate his steps are 3 or 4 to 1 ratio to hers, at least. Hers were often simplified as well, maybe it was because of the heels. So please, put that one to rest. Figures it came from something stupid as Frank and Ernest.
Do we have any proof that Frank & Ernest wrote that? Cartoonists are not known for their scrupulosity (Is that a word?)... often, in the past, some of them would buy a listing in the Writer's Market, trolling for gags... and who know where they came from? Certainly not the cartoonists.
I had one of my gags lifted by a New Yorker cartoonist. Nice.
Have you seen this from Swing Time, docweasel? I don't see a 3 or 4 to 1 ratio there.
"Have you seen this from Swing Time, docweasel? I don't see a 3 or 4 to 1 ratio there."
Thanks for linking to that.
She seems to be taking an equal number of steps, but less flashily.
And she doesn't go backward much of the time. When she does, he's holding her and helping her.
Ginger Rogers did not do everything Astaire did -- because Astaire is leading.
It takes skill to lead well, and it takes skill to follow well. Different skill sets.
I don't mean this as in any way a put down of Ginger Rogers but can anyone remember her in any dance number without Fred Astaire? Fred was the choreographer of those dance numbers. He was the genius. She was the talent.
In her autobiography, Ginger identifies that cartoon as the origin of the line. With no formal dancing lessons she managed to hold her own in maybe twenty of the finest dance routines of the twentieth century, which speaks to her native athletic ability and hard work, but obviously she was not as great a dancer as Astaire (also, Fred choreographed the routines with assistance from Hermes Pan). I think it's equally obvious that Ginger was easily the best actor who was capable of doing such difficult dance routines, most definitely including Astaire.
Ginger did solo dances in several films: Follow the Fleet, In Person, Roxie Hart and The Major and the Minor come to mind. They were all fun, clever, and relatively short. Partnered dancing was definitely her forte.
Well...perhaps it's true the line came from the Frank and Ernest cartoon strip. I didn't realize the strip had started as early as it did and was sure I'd heard the line before the strip ever existed. To the degree there's any certainty of attribution that I can find, it seems Thaves has it, (he's the cartoonist who created Frank and Ernest).
See, that's what's wrong with you, Cook, although that slights all your other failings. "Perhaps it's true?" It was in her autobiography! Do you disbelieve her? I suppose you may disbelieve "Unknown" but if you want to go that far you could go nypl and check!
How grudging you are to confess to any error. Was that your Midwestern family values? Never admit when you're wrong? Lovin' babe! Is your real name Arthur Fonzarelli? I was wuh-wuh-wuh...rong.
I find it fascinating that Ariana Huffington and you find it ok to discuss pumps seriously and in depth. If a guy were to do that, the sexism tag would certainly have been thrown out there. I call this a double standard.
Davin, guys do it all the time! Go to the last blog on my blogroll, Tom and Lorenzo. They are role models for me.
They're faggots, though, aren't they? That's a little different. You expect them to twitter like magpies over piddly shit like fashion. Anybody who would vote based on shoes should be stripped of their franchise. I'd stop there, but if then you had your head shaved and "MORON" tattooed on your forehead before being run out of town on a rail, how could I object?
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