Althouse: Donald Trump does pretty well with Jimmy Fallon (and Fallon's pretty good too).

September 12, 2015

Donald Trump does pretty well with Jimmy Fallon (and Fallon's pretty good too).

76 comments:

David Begley said...: Jimmy Fallon is a comic genius.; 9/12/15, 9:57 AM
chickelit said...: Fallon vs. Colbert
Trump vs. Hillary

American Politics; 9/12/15, 10:06 AM
Vet66 said...: Gotta love the "Donald." He enters the race for POTUS to get his point across about the failures of Obama and his cohorts that have made our economic recovery stagger around like Dr. Frankenstein's monster. Surprise! Surprise! he touches a nerve among the electorate that cross party lines that people are tired of Obama's fake promises (lies) supported by styrofoam promises. I doubt if he ever dreamed he would last this long but has accepted the challenge to reap the whirlwind so to speak. Undoubtedly, he is making money in this economic climate, but like the rest of us, can only imagine how much better we would all be doing without another tax and spend democrat making promises impossible to keep. He won't quit now but will ride the opposition hard and put them away wet, as the saying goes. For him, it will be a welcome change from running his mult-billion dollar company to actually running the economy that is making his/our lives difficult. Lack of leadership is a vacuum that will be filled, either by a lying Hillary who has her millions and could care less about the rest of us, or a capitalist who knows what this country is capable of. If that happens, the libs/progs will go to ground watching the economy rebound in four or more years. Then, ever the electorate with a short memory, will fall for the phony promises from the tax and spend crowd who will promise the world, get reelected and spend all the money made by conservatives to pursue their elusive utopian dreams starting the cycle again. That is based on this country not turning into Greece with a debt that cannot be repaid in a millennial's lifetime of debt interest.; 9/12/15, 10:10 AM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: It is possible to imagine Trump's act growing stale, but so far he is getting smoother and more likable. His easy dismissal of his rivals must drive them crazy.; 9/12/15, 10:22 AM
pm317 said...: OMG, Althouse is going to vote for Trump!; 9/12/15, 10:24 AM
Drago said...: AReasonableMan: "It is possible to imagine Trump's act growing stale, but so far he is getting smoother and more likable."

Trump is helped immensely by the sheer volume and pace of "new" events/news that allow him to bring his particular gifts to bear on instances where the leaders of both parties are being transparently dishonest.

Again, Trump is a 100% creation of the existing parties.

ARM: "His easy dismissal of his rivals must drive them crazy."

What drives them even crazier is the fact, and it is a fact, that the criticism of Trump by his rivals doesn't even register on the public at large, the republican base in particular, and that major media is not effective at amplifying any of those criticisms.

I say this as an observer of this process and not yet in any "camp", and I am a long time partisan and someone who has spent a little time in the political process at the state level.; 9/12/15, 10:39 AM
Eric the Fruit Bat said...: Seems to me that Trump's only inviolable conviction is that life is a contest for status that he has to win.; 9/12/15, 10:47 AM
Etienne said...: His points about the VA are true, but I think everyone is being short-sighted on this. The GOP hates National Health Care for the citizens, but loves National Health Care for the Veterans.

Let's switch it off. Maybe National Health Care is a good thing to blow money on. We blow it on nuclear submarines that do nothing for us (well, until the end), so what's the big deal about a trillion here and there for Health.

Here's the deal, shut down the VA and put all the Veterans on Obama care. As a retired veteran I pay $600 a year for Insurance, and I mostly see civilian doctors because the military doctors appointments are full with the troops.

Have every Veteran who doesn't have health care, pay $600 a year and give them the same benefit.

If they don't have $600 and are homeless, then write it off. If they are a Veteran, and they have a combat injury, maybe even forgo the insurance payment. Their missing arms and legs are payment in full.

it's only fair! Even if they don't have a combat injury, help them if they need it. Remember, they stepped-up, everyone else ran to Canada or their Union job.

We need to take the GOP assholes to the woodshed and beat their fucking brains in.

You can't say you are against National Health Care, and then have no alternative plan.

If you are against it, and no plan, they should take you to the main square and behead your fucking ass.; 9/12/15, 10:52 AM
Drago said...: I would be interested if ARM or Cook or anyone else on the left would offer an observation on what specific impact the fact that Trump is a lifelong and proud New Yorker has on the liberals/leftist when they attempt to criticize him?

Life long New Yorker, so he can't be labeled a kook from the sticks non-sophisticate.

Graduate degree from Wharton, so he can't be labeled an "idiot".

Has supported politicians and groups from the entire spectrum, so being labeled "evil" becomes problematic.

Hater of women? Nope.
Hater of minorities? Even tougher.

So what is the "word on the lefty street" regarding Trump?

All I have are some anecdotal examples from personal acquaintances and those anecdotes are surprisingly positive re: Mssr Trump.; 9/12/15, 10:55 AM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: Drago said...
the leaders of both parties are being transparently dishonest.

They would say they are 'acting in our better interests', and, sometimes it might even be true, but it doesn't seem to be our best interests that are getting acted upon most of the time.; 9/12/15, 10:56 AM
Drago said...: Coupe: "You can't say you are against National Health Care, and then have no alternative plan."

What do you mean "You can't...."

They most certainly "can" and they most certainly "have" and they most certainly continue to do same.

Were you shooting for "should not"?; 9/12/15, 10:59 AM
Drago said...: ARM: "They would say they are 'acting in our better interests', and, sometimes it might even be true, but it doesn't seem to be our best interests that are getting acted upon most of the time."

When the leaders of both parties can drive likes of ARM and myself "together", even if only temporarily and/or rhetorically (as opposed to policy), you know we have reached some sort of political inflection point.

I don't know what sort of inflection point, but we are at one.

Perhaps it's the fact that the gov't has stopped publishing the running total of our ever increasing national debt (already at 100%+ of annual GDP), the illegal immigration BS which has aligned the Chamber of Commerce with the radical left and La Raza, etc.

There is definitely something afoot.; 9/12/15, 11:04 AM
Etienne said...: Drago said...Were you shooting for "should not"?

Probably, but I had blood all over my hands after killing a mole and accidentally disemboweling him/her...; 9/12/15, 11:05 AM
Guildofcannonballs said...: "Seems to me that Trump's only inviolable conviction is that life is a contest for status that he has to win."

And the fact you are oblivious to the fact all POTUS seekers are what you describe makes your comments worthless, save criticism opportunities. Compare what you think about Trump to anyone else confirmed running. You might as well say anyone red-blooded (with oxygen) is better than Trump because you feel it so.

Any young brain understands politicians covet POTUS to the extent that is all their lives revolve around, all their family's lives revolve around, all their friend's lives revolve around to an extent, and the single driving force of anyone else who can name the person as beneficial to them who might become the most powerful person in history.

Vote Bernie rube, Trump hates your ignorance, you, and your family.; 9/12/15, 11:07 AM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: Drago said...
I don't know what sort of inflection point, but we are at one.

I wouldn't bet on that. The status quo remains in place for a reason. While it is entertaining to read the WSJ stamping it's little footsies over the rise of Trump, there is a lot more to their arsenal than some ill-considered editorials. Trump will be defeated. I would guess the RNC establishment would chose to lose the presidential election because of a 3rd party run rather than cede real power to Trump.; 9/12/15, 11:10 AM
Guildofcannonballs said...: Flank Anders will be the name of my Teddy Rooseveldt.; 9/12/15, 11:17 AM
Etienne said...: I met a retired doctor who was working for the Park Service. He drove his RV to different parks each year, and they paid him about $15 a day for meals.

He was about 60 years old, and I was surprised he retired so young.

He said he was an Emergency room doctor for 24 years, and that was enough for him. He said he made a lot of money because he didn't have to have malpractice insurance, as the County exempted all emergency room doctors. He said it had to be that way, because more people die than lived, as he worked in Miami, which is a pretty violent place with all those crazy Cubans.

He noticed I was riding my scooter without a helmet, and asked if I had a tag around my neck. What?? A tag, you know, that says "do not resuscitate". I just laughed.

Hell doctor, I expect to be dead an hour before the damned doctor even see's me!

Have you seen an emergency room lately? They are full of Mexicans and no one speaks English. He just changed the subject and said he and his girlfriend were going on a hike, and I agreed to go along.

Anyway, with National Health Care, maybe we can get people out of the Emergency rooms for their primary health care.; 9/12/15, 11:26 AM
Etienne said...: My one question to all the Candidates is:

What will you do with the $400k salary you will receive as President?

I think Donald will have the best answer. I think Mrs Clinton will have the worst.; 9/12/15, 11:30 AM
Guildofcannonballs said...: Or Flank Shake.

In fact indeed Flank Shake is it, the bee's knees as they say.; 9/12/15, 11:33 AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: What - no hack left wing comparison to the KKK?; 9/12/15, 11:35 AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: With National Health Care - like the horrid system in the UK - maybe we can pay way too much for it and force people to wait in line for crap care. That would be amazing.; 9/12/15, 11:42 AM
Writ Small said...: Trump is undeniably a charming dude. Probably the most charismatic candidate on the national scene since Obama. What is the connection between narcissism and charm?; 9/12/15, 11:48 AM
Etienne said...: AprilApple said...With National Health Care - like the horrid system in the UK - maybe we can pay way too much for it and force people to wait in line for crap care. That would be amazing.

Well, the VA get's 4% of the $4.1 Trillion budget next year, and is a National Health Care system for members only.

If that is a bad thing, we must get rid of it.

What should we give the Veterans instead?; 9/12/15, 11:51 AM
Anonymous said...: Amazing the relief we all feel when a child (even a grownup like DT) observes "no, he's not wearing any clothes. Really!"

Granted, the weaker of us all run for cover waiting for the heavens to part, and the thunderbolts to strike all us non-believers.

Another Canute he is.

Facts matter. Actions matter. The rest of it is at best hopes and dreams, but most often just noise from folks that should get a real job (and improve our lot rather than burden it).

What are the odds that Iran already has nukes? And we just paid them to keep quiet about it. It's not like this is rocket science. And rocket science isn't that hard. "there's an app for that."; 9/12/15, 11:54 AM
SomeoneHasToSayIt said...: Sweet! ARM is the best reverse compass I know, so when he says "Trump will be defeated", that pretty much seals Trump's victory. Woo hoo.

I hope Trump wins. One can debate trivialities all one wants, but sometimes a single thing is just over-riding. Without borders, we are not a country.

And, he's electable. Watch the % of Black, Latino, Female, Millennial, and low-info voters he gets.; 9/12/15, 11:55 AM
BN said...: All of our choices are excellent. We can't lose.

Popular front, anyone?; 9/12/15, 12:05 PM
Guildofcannonballs said...: "an emergency room"
If shit towns can't have emergency departments, only rooms, then fuck 'em, their horse, and the racist bigotry.; 9/12/15, 12:13 PM
Anonymous said...: What should we give vets instead? A job. Given we have less than 90 million employed out of an able work force of around 200M, D.T. could start with fixing this. Perhaps Starting with everybody works. Or they don't eat. Germany found a job for everyone after WW2. Including terribly disabled vets (and citizens) being restroom attendants, or keeping a little plot of storefront clean.

I'm waiting for him to invite his "slate" to come stand with him on the dais. TR would have done this even before the convention (of course then it was a smoke filled room, now we just pretend it's not). All of his department heads that need senate approval. His supreme court nominees. Anyone running for office supporting his principles, or if not principles "him" (as in "I'll vote for whatever he decides best"). Existing members of congress, not just candidates. Perhaps even document his spending (budget) for the next four years. Including the "pork" and why.

And then tell us, "the voters" - don't bother voting for me unless you support all of this. Because these are the people we need for you to succeed, and if you succeed, we'll have made America Great Again(tm).; 9/12/15, 12:14 PM
Guildofcannonballs said...: Any room considered in an emergency best have no more than 1423 possible patients at any given time.

Otherwise taxpayers got raped.

Stupid idiots should have demanded a department, yet are stuck around, until they die, in a shit room.; 9/12/15, 12:16 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: ...what specific impact the fact that Trump is a lifelong and proud New Yorker has on the liberals/leftist when they attempt to criticize him?

None, other than that they're very familiar with how deranged he is.

Life long New Yorker, so he can't be labeled a kook from the sticks non-sophisticate.... and I am a long time partisan...

Thanks for revealing the source of your sheltered ignorance. New Yorkers see kooks walking the sidewalks every day. They also see Wall Street traders every day, so they feel no need to worship them or think that every one with money is morally superior to everyone else, the way your "camp" does. And they also get to see some of the best theatrical productions in the world, so they're practiced in knowing an act when they see one. Even if Trump's Act of Overwhelming Self-Love is for him the only reality he knows.

Thank you for your admissions. They were more revealing than you know. Just as Trump reveals more about himself every day than you will ever realize.

On another note, it would be interesting to know what criteria Professor Fish-Eye Lens used to "judge" these performances.

Augustus famously said on his death bed, "Have I played my part well?" But Trump is no Augustus. As much as his followers would crown him a Caesar.

Trump is more Mark Antony, whom Cicero lambasted as a bankrupt before even coming of age. Trump himself is a quadruple-bankrupt. Successful business leaders hate him. It's only people who idolize businessmen that love him.; 9/12/15, 12:18 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Coupe: "You can't say you are against National Health Care, and then have no alternative plan."

What do you mean "You can't...."

They most certainly "can" and they most certainly "have" and they most certainly continue to do same.

Were you shooting for "should not"?

Coupe was merely assuming you place any importance on either leadership or responsibility, Drago. But that's a mistake he'll probably learn to avoid in the future.; 9/12/15, 12:22 PM
Jim Gust said...: Thanks for posting these, I had not seen them.

Jimmy Fallon is a genius, isn't he? He's the true heir of Johnny Carson.; 9/12/15, 12:24 PM
Guildofcannonballs said...: "don't bother voting for me unless you support all of this. Because"

The real because is only stupid, unreasonable given circumstances, think like you.

Which is a majority, everywhere.

After gaining power and the pleasures of it, the idea some previous "reform" isn't enacted somehow affects the empowered is idiotic.

Fuck.

Just try to understand the last century okay, we will worry about nuked Jews after your done with your analysis.

And blame the GOP, and, oncely, be correct.

The interest should be: Why does McConnel think he will be safe after The Correction?

The answer invovles the knowledge he has, and doesn't.

Best thing for Jews is conspiracy regarding repayment of Nazi debt involving leadership.; 9/12/15, 12:27 PM
BN said...: Me, I'm voting for Rythm and Cannonballs..; 9/12/15, 12:38 PM
Guildofcannonballs said...: "Jimmy Fallon is a genius, isn't he?"

In terms of genius meaning anyone who lands a show is one, considering the competition and rewards, sure sure Fallon is genius.

You know he isn't a comedic genius like Kanye West I presume.

And Andy Kaufman defines the term unrestricted by hosting labels.; 9/12/15, 12:38 PM
Krumhorn said...: It seems to me that Trumps success has been his complete unwillingness to be cowed by the media or conventional political wisdom or the PC Police. Our political conversations have usually been channeled and corralled through narrow ranges of expression and content that leave everyone feeling manipulated and deceived.

Trump appears to joyously have a bowel blowout every time he speaks and you get the feeling that you're finally seeing someone bigger than...LARGER THAN....all of the smallish contained restricted constipated controlled political figures that have finally made it through the gauntlet of a public career.

He gives every impression that he doesn't GAF what you think because you don't know WTF you're talking about....and you're ugly to boot.

You walk away thinking that maybe he's right.

- Krumhorn; 9/12/15, 12:46 PM
Unknown said...: Reading this thread (especially Coupe's posts), is making me glad I just bought my first firearm....; 9/12/15, 12:47 PM
Sebastian said...: @Someone: "And, he's electable. Watch the % of Black, Latino, Female, Millennial, and low-info voters he gets."

Assumes anti-illegal pitch outweighs ordinary Dem pandering to minority voters, air of misogyny won't turn off more women than it attracts, LIVs will vote in larger numbers, and ordinary conservatives won't throw up their hands and stay home.; 9/12/15, 12:48 PM
sane_voter said...: Can't believe our hostess didn't link the skit they did. Video here; 9/12/15, 12:48 PM
Anonymous said...: re: tag around the neck of the bike rider -without- a helmet. Doesn't matter They die most of the time.

Turns out we want fewer helmets. A helmet means those who have a serious accident find a helmet is little more than a placebo - so they become million, and at times billion dollar burdens on society - but only if it's society that is paying the medical bills. Which is another reason to get the big "WE" out of the medical equation Because it would put the accountability with those that are actually responsible.

Which reminds me, I reviewed some companies' (who self-insure) health care costs. Turns out in the 18 to 32 year old (no children) cohort, they see a doctor only six times, and 5.5 of those visits are for their birth control pills (means no males, and would be no females save for the guild needing some hook to drive them into their subscription business, which they'd love to be able to do to the males as well.). They are truly the young invincibles.

Save for the few that are wearing helmets when they get hit by a car - which justifies maybe $300 a year catastrophic policy back-stop. Of course, perhaps as long as society is paying the medical bills, it'd be cheaper just to outlaw bicycles, or tax them like cigarettes.

Aka what we do to ourselves when we forget who are the really smartest people in the room. Not the elite, but the masses, voting with their wallet, which presumes those smarter than the masses don't put their thumbs on the scale of the market. “But we had good intentions, really we did." Even as we discover that what saves lives is saturated fat, prime, and not lean meat And all because the grain farmers were more politically astute than the meat farmers back in the 50s. Oh, but the planet is more important than the peasant's quality of life (or lives for that matter), right? So it'll work out ok after all.; 9/12/15, 12:52 PM
Guildofcannonballs said...: The teachers were suppossed to teach "look at that bad situation, here's how it came about and how to avoid it" after, and only after, teaching what taxes legitimately pay for, the three R's.

Now the teachers have been taught to teach is fraught, the lesson learned being unEasy:

Your cunt lessons fail, have failed, and will fail again.

This is a link from decades ago more prominent and influential than you or I.

And any sumbitch wants to talk/argue about linking from decades ago literraly (online virtually) different from linking history by linking (my def.) to a web reference from decades ago: Brung it Aught.; 9/12/15, 1:45 PM
Deb said...: "We need to take the GOP assholes to the woodshed and beat their fucking brains in."

Just tell me when and where, and I've got dibs on Boehner.; 9/12/15, 1:53 PM
Guildofcannonballs said...: Y'all like Dylan Thomas to too much of extentwise.; 9/12/15, 1:59 PM
Drago said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 9/12/15, 2:03 PM
Drago said...: R&B's: "Coupe was merely assuming you place any importance on either leadership or responsibility, Drago. But that's a mistake he'll probably learn to avoid in the future."

Perhaps one of the other commenters will take the time to point out your logic fail.

However, given your hilarious -"bottom" of the normal distribution curve equals dumb- performance a week ago or so I doubt any lessons will stick.

Feel free to triple down on the stupid since you are already safely ensconced in the bosom of mathematical illiteracy.; 9/12/15, 2:05 PM
The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...: "Assumes anti-illegal pitch outweighs ordinary Dem pandering to minority voters, air of misogyny won't turn off more women than it attracts, LIVs will vote in larger numbers, and ordinary conservatives won't throw up their hands and stay home."

Maybe they're not assumptions. The interesting thing about Trump is that everybody thinks his statements are the unconsidered, unfiltered, regurgitations of a rampageous ego. How do we know they're not calculated and focus-group tested. Deporting illeagals is a great example. I've never talked to any citizen, of any class or ideology, who wasn't in favor of shipping illeagals back where they came from. Is it so absurd to think that one (outrageous! racist! impossible!) statement might strike a chord so deep and wide that it assures electoral success?; 9/12/15, 2:13 PM
The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...: It also allows him to very easily frame the Donks as an actively pro-illeagals party. That's a Tar Baby that the Donks ideology and SJW base all not allow the Donks to pry loose from. Neatly done.; 9/12/15, 2:18 PM
Ann Althouse said...: @sane voter

Hadn't seen it yet at the point when I put up the post.; 9/12/15, 2:31 PM
traditionalguy said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 9/12/15, 2:55 PM
traditionalguy said...: Mark Cuban is putting on a Trump Rally in his arena in Dallas and issued 20,000 free tickets. The free ticket holders are now offering to sell them on eBay for $100 apiece.

How do you beat a leader like that?

Trump has warned us about the downside of a Trump Presidency. ..we could get bored with victories after victories. That is true about Americans loving to come together and use their talents to defeat foes. What Obama gave us was 8 years with no real war against a real enemy. He pretends the Islamic War is not there. He pretends the war on our allies is not there. He makes up instead phony wars on women and on police who kill black men and on carbon dioxide warming effects none of which exist in the real world so they can never be fought and won...just written out of the script someday for a new storyline.; 9/12/15, 2:58 PM
Guildofcannonballs said...: Damn simpleton punks.

The best words any candidate could say, anywhere, are Tupac's words:

"But it's my own kind doing all the killing here."

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/2pac/onlygodcanjudgeme.html

I don't doubt Communists killed Tupac, regardless of, indeed solely because of, Tupac's Communist history.; 9/12/15, 3:04 PM
Sebastian said...: "Is it so absurd . . . "

No. Just unlikely.

And of course Trump wants to let the "good ones" back in. Without, as far as we can tell, changing the actual immigration system.; 9/12/15, 3:09 PM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: Guildofcannonballs said...
Tupac's Communist history.

Tupac was more of a Renaissance man.; 9/12/15, 3:17 PM
Achilles said...: AReasonableMan said...
Drago said...
I don't know what sort of inflection point, but we are at one.

"I wouldn't bet on that. The status quo remains in place for a reason. While it is entertaining to read the WSJ stamping it's little footsies over the rise of Trump, there is a lot more to their arsenal than some ill-considered editorials. Trump will be defeated. I would guess the RNC establishment would chose to lose the presidential election because of a 3rd party run rather than cede real power to Trump."

I don't doubt the GOP would sabotage Trump if he is nominated. They serve the same donor's that the Dem's serve. Both parties just say things to their base to get them to vote and then just do what Wall Street wants. The difference is the GOP base isn't full of halfwits and retards and FEEELLIINNNGGGS.

But lets say the donor class manages to steal another election and we get someone like Obama again who makes the .01% wealthier than ever and totally screws the 99%. If Hillary or Jeb or Christie or some other tool is nominated there will be resistance. Obamacare is already in a death spiral and soon when employers are forced to participate it will be over. Everything is unraveling. The IRS is going to have a tough time if 5% of us opt out, much less 30-50% and I challenge anyone here to find 12 people in any state who will convict a citizen when they are charged by the IRS.; 9/12/15, 4:06 PM
Guildofcannonballs said...: Katy Perry's "Part of Me" is the greatest video ever.

I will not argue with numbskull idiocy contempating otherwise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuwfgXD8qV8; 9/12/15, 5:25 PM
Guildofcannonballs said...: I could not in my wildest dreams progogandize America The Great better than what Katy Perry has done.

Only the stupid shits that failed serving other than me stand to criticize according to their cunt standards.

This is a link to something greater, in every way, than your dreams contemplate.; 9/12/15, 5:34 PM
Anonymous said...: I don't think he wants to be president for very long. TR didn't either when he started out. Just fix the problems, do a Warren Harding job of cutting it back 40% probably more (get it out of all of every job except those only it can do) - like the New Zealand reform of the 80s when they ran out of money and discovered the private sector could do most everything better than they could, with higher customer/citizen sat, at a lower cost. Great proof that "yes, it can be done" when there are no other options. Search McTigue New Zealand Lessons on youtube. The Maori have never had it better.

I don't know if he was joking about Kanye. Why not? Or a Winfrey or Jordan or Carson, even Peebles - someone DT competes with. Anyone who has had written payroll checks will do.

In any case, his election willpretty much gut the GoP, and destroy it as we knew it. Or he'll rename it and keep the parts he likes, and wish the old guard of talkers not doers well.. The commies of the left won't know what hit them.; 9/12/15, 5:39 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: You really must stop feeling so butt-hurt all the time, Dragon. I mean, you are after all the "long time partisan" too mentally slow to understand why being from New York can't do shit to inoculate a perennially trash-talking quadruple bankrupt from criticism or even presidential rejection by an entire half of the political spectrum.

If that's not stupid, then neither is trying to walk through a high-voltage electric fence, twice.

The lesson you ask to learn, but repeatedly fail to get, Mr. State Level Political "Processor", is that some people actually care about what things ARE, and not how they can be "labelled".

Those would apparently not be your constituents, so don't worry about it.

Continue to play the labelling game and see where it gets you.; 9/12/15, 6:28 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: There is definitely something afoot.

Is it the shit you're stepping in?

I guess it's too late for a sense of smell to be of much help to a guy like you.; 9/12/15, 6:31 PM
Amy said...: I could only get through the shortest clip (Speed interview). Charismatic? Not to me. Reminds me of every big ego corp suite type guy I've ever worked with.

Could we have actually found the one guy who is a bigger narcissist than our current president?; 9/12/15, 6:34 PM
wildswan said...: The reality is that Iran is going to nuke some of our cities due to Obama running away from reality. The next President will have to handle that.; 9/12/15, 8:13 PM
pm317 said...: here is another video Fallon/Trump..; 9/12/15, 8:43 PM
Anonymous said...: Nukes. When Ms. C. is elected and the drivers of the i-boomers have no homes left to return to I figure they'll target DC, NYC and SFO as @od's justice for our sins of omission, standing by while their families were incinerated. Though I suspect Mr. T. will at least insure the U.S. navy has the resources to keep a tail on our allies. Remember U.S. Navy war plan Red? That we practiced? To evict the Brits from the Pacific and their colonies because they had made an alliance with the Japanese (after the Japanese had kicked Commie butt?). Stranger things have happened.

Yep, there was a time we could have saved 100M or more slaves under communism from early and ugly death, and billions who contributed nothing to mankind (for lack of a price signal) for the cost of a few million Europeans (and probably a tiny number of Americans) - up until the Sovs had the SS18 (appropriately named Satan) deployed in the late 60s. Yet we stood by and "contained." Because we were tired of war.; 9/12/15, 9:23 PM
cubanbob said...: I want to watch Trump debate Hillary. Hell I'll pay to watch that on pay per view. In other news, the British Labour Party committed suicide today. If we are lucky, the Democratic Party will do the same with Sanders.; 9/12/15, 9:44 PM
Drago said...: R&B's, I'm afraid that volume and bellicosity cannot hide your many shortcomings.

But since those are your only rhetorical "weapons", stick with them. And don't worry. You have plenty of company in that regard as that is a combination found in great supply amongst those at the "bottom" of the bell curve.

By the way, have you figured out your logic fail yet? I'm betting not. Unfortunately for you, there it is for everyone to "admire".; 9/12/15, 10:51 PM
Drago said...: R&B's: "...some people actually care about what things ARE, and not how they can be "labeled".

What was that you were saying? I couldn't hear you over the chants of "WarOnWomen!"; 9/12/15, 10:58 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Is "fail" a noun? I thought it was "failure".

But I understand that the clients for your "labelling" -- (if you don't understand the reference, re-read your own comments. I understand that the virtue of your illiteracy is that you can pretend that you can't read the things that you yourself typed) -- might better relate to your grammatical failures.

Remember, not knowing how to write, not remembering what you wrote, and not knowing why New Yorkers are better at getting all the dirt on Trump that you seem unable to find... these all put you at the "top" of the bell curve.

Just keep playing games and missing the point. Confusion is is the greatest ally to a "consultant" like you.; 9/12/15, 11:36 PM
Drago said...: R&B writes ..........basically, nothing.

But in a good way, I'm sure.; 9/12/15, 11:49 PM
Drago said...: Amy: "Reminds me of every big ego corp suite type guy I've ever worked with."

What percent of the corp suite type guys you've worked with would you term "big ego"?

100%

Less?

Just establishing a baseline.; 9/12/15, 11:53 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Not surprising. The illiterate (like Drago) find all writing to be tantamount to "nothing".

And this is why he will continue to be mystified at how a trash-talking quadruple bankrupt blowhard might fail to gain respect among the people most familiar with him.

But Drago, and his allies, need a dick to suck. And if it belongs to an orange-haired, caustic semi-billionaire, so much the better.

Remember: Republicans stand for nothing -- except for how they can define a set of "enemies". And the only RINO left who can do that is Trump. Making enemies is all he does.

But that's ok. Republicans have alienated so many Americans that only someone who loves negative attention will do as their leader. Even if he disagrees with nearly everything they claim to stand for.; 9/13/15, 12:24 AM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Just establishing a baseline.

That might take you a while. It seems to be something you suck at.; 9/13/15, 12:25 AM
Rusty said...: Here's the deal, shut down the VA and put all the Veterans on Obama care. As a retired veteran I pay $600 a year for Insurance, and I mostly see civilian doctors because the military doctors appointments are full with the troops.

I too have a retired dr. tale.
Just before my GP retired we discussed what healthcare for people who couldn't afford healthcare would look like.
His view was to have those people use the VA system. Veterans having first choice of course.
But what about being overwhelmed by the lack of drs?
As a requirement of having taken out federal loans or grants the newly minted drs. would have to work at a VA hospital for a period of time.
This was of course, before the glaring political inefficiencies of the VA were revealed.

Universal healthcare is an inefficient use of resources. It can become more efficient if the state is allowed to determine if someone has the right to commit suicide.; 9/13/15, 8:16 AM
mikee said...: I, for one, remember a time when the office of the presidency was too respectable for the candidates to appear on shows like Fallon's or Colbert's.

Thanks, Bill!; 9/13/15, 10:20 AM
Drago said...: R&B's has broken out the trowel and is laying it on thick again today.

If you happen to be reading this thread and you are wondering what is driving R&B's spittle-flecked ranting comprised of projection, purposeful mischaracterization, strawman arguments etc., it's really quite simple.

He doesn't understand basic statistics and, in attempting to be "clever" on a previous thread, exposed that ignorance.

Even worse, from his perspective, is that some of us happened to notice that.

Hence the cranking up of the R&B verbal-vomit-fog-machine in order to build a rhetorical wall that is sufficiently tall that you won't notice that there isn't much behind it.

Just imagine how much personal progress R&B might have made if he had just taken the time to familiarize himself with some stats basics instead of building his little ego protecting wall.

But then, if he was the sort to do that, he would not have been in this situation at all.; 9/13/15, 12:08 PM
Drago said...: I wonder if R&B's parents regret paying whatever sums they happened to cough up for an education that lacked even rudimentary mathematical skills for their little guy.

It's obvious why R&B never found an academic home in the natural sciences. It's simply too difficult to BS your way through a program in that arena.

In other words, there is no place to hide. And it doesn't make any difference how many words/accusations/moronic observations he might offer up.

Still, we can all expect to have opportunities to shift gears in our professional lives more than once and you never know where you will end up if you are open to real growth.

So yes, even in R&B's case, I am an optimist.; 9/13/15, 12:15 PM
gadfly said...: Bop on over to Tarzana Joe's to read poetry that trumps: The (Hairy) Elephant in the Room; 9/13/15, 7:56 PM

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