The answer, from Buzzfeed [AND: I did not go looking for this, it just came up on Facebook]: "Body-Shaming 'Advice' In Oprah’s Magazine Has Resulted In A Badass Movement."
According to the magazine you should only wear a crop top if you have a flat stomach. Anitai responded to the “advice” by adding this caption to her Instagram....
Surprised to see this level of #bodyshaming in Oprah magazine....Fashion blogger Sarah Conley, who was tagged in Anitai’s post, took to her website, Style It, to reply:
... I was shocked to see this kind of body shaming language from any magazine, much less one named after a woman who has had her weight scrutinized throughout her career. Furthermore, I’d hoped in the era of the fatkini, plus size bloggers, and Instagram hashtags that we’ve moved beyond such narrow-minded thinking, but I can see now that it’s time for a show & tell.She called for people to showcase their crop tops using the hashtag #RockTheCrop....
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#blobthetop
Good lord that link needs a trigger warning. I'm gonna think of Moby Dick all night long.
Which is worse - this or men in shorts?
I dunno. It may be a movement to expose big bellies; maybe they wish they were in Southern California getting a tan; or maybe they just lack any fashion sense.
But it's not just big bellies (the obesity epidemic in the USA rolls on).
Have you noticed the otherwise very attractive young women who are flaunting large tattoos on easily visible places on their bodies? Those tats are going to look terrible a few years from now.
Not that I am a frequent viewer of porn films (although it's hard to avoid these days). But one common feature of every young porn actress that I've seen is that they have lots of "tramp stamps" on their bodies.
Unless these ladies with a round belly under a crop top can find a fetish film maker, it won't make much difference whether they're tattooed or not. But a set of tats will definitely limit your career options.
Is bodyshaming a microaggression or a macroaggression?
They told me there wouldn't be any math...
Thanks for the warning, Jim. Not going to look at things I can't unsee.
If they enforced this rule the flat stomach rule we would have to close down Walmart -- http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/
Haven't these people got the message?
You can never criticize a woman, especially if it will make her feel bad.
Headline: Fat Women Confirm "Crop Top" Advice
We all wore crop tops in college, and we were all skinny then, all of us! Really, I remember one fat girl in the whole dorm. And the difference is: there was NO fast food nearby, no snack bar at the rec, dining halls open only open at mealtimes, with "only" two choices of entree each night (I thought it was great) This was in 1970.
In 1985, I couldn't find fast food or ready to eat food here in our suburb when I had strep throat, fever of 103, picking up husband from the hospital after hernia repair, ouch, with our three boys first grade and younger. Now food is EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME. No wonder they're fat. Also food additives, petrochemicals in the environment, yeah yeah, don't argue with me about that. ;)
About crop tops, my parents did not approve. When we were going to visit family I respected their opinion. I understood that it was a typical sight at school, but shocking to my relatives. I'm not sure why the need for the "in your face" attitude nowadays, constantly.
Some not very happy girls, I would guess.
Ben Franklin saw more flaws in himself than in others.
Course, none of youse can learn anything from him.
And 'member this about these women in the arena:
http://www.theodore-roosevelt.com/trsorbonnespeech.html
"Thanks for the warning, Jim. Not going to look at things I can't unsee."
Your everyday courage makes Gen. Patton proud to have served you Sir.
The obvious insight is that women have beer bellies, too.
The less obvious insight is how this relates to other issues, agendas, etc. Our civilization, societies, communities, families, etc. have been blindsided more than once with acts of progressive (i.e. incremental) legerdemain, and with increasing frequency in recent decades.
I wonder if this is related to the practice and strategy of debasing human life. It begins with indiscriminate killing (e.g. elective abortion), continues with denigration of individual dignity (e.g. class diversity), and is progressively integrated at higher (i.e. visible) levels.
Then again, they may just be rebels with some cause. Perhaps a pride parade will improve their disposition.
I think it would be rude for a stranger or an acquaintance to say something to someone about this or look askance or otherwise reveal any critical thoughts about such a choice.
But that's what advice columnists and good friends are for. But let's be clear, many, many people will, in fact, question your sense of style, your taste and your judgement if you were something so unflattering to the eye. Would that we could define for others what is flattering, but we can't. All options are not available to all. Just a fact.
It seems that the perceived "shame-ees" have become the "shame-ers".
And round and round we go.
Tiring.
1. The oprah arty asks can you PULL IT OFF. Buzzfeed turns that into a question of wearing one. Of course you can wear "whatever you want" but you can't look good in it.
2. about 10 years ago, when i started seeing crop tops and bare mnidriffs more, on women who shouldn't wear them, i wanted to get a cropped shirt with text "It doesn't look any better on you, honey". I'm a gentleman of girth.
Special Snowflakes can never be wrong. Nasty. That twitter hashtag just shows there are A LOT of morbidly obese women in the country living in denial.
Note: if you can't see your belly button because it's the size of a golf hole, you shouldn't be wearing a crop top.
Extra note: None of these women who #rockthecrop have posed sitting down. Weird.
Next body affirming hashtag: #Allhailmuffintop
I didn't think they looked that bad. Most of them are just curvy women. Didn't see much flab hanging out in those photos.
What I don't like to see are the pregnant women who wear skin tight clothing. Seems to be the norm now. Even skinny ones don't look good with every bulge highlighted.
Another affirming hashtag: JabbaTheSJW"
Fashion blogger- i suppose she never criticizes anyones fashion , that would be shaming. Guess she should quit blogging
Some O them gals seriously need to quit licking the donuts.
@ Sydney
Most of the well groomed ones are showing about an inch of skin below their sternum. To me, that does not qualify as wearing a crop top. If you go to the end of the picture search, you'll see older pictures with skinny girls wearing crop tops---they're showing at least a good six inches of skin. The larger "fashionistas" are unwittingly affirming what the Oprah Mag advised by not going full out crop top. And the obese women who do go all out do not look attractive in any way, shape or form.
Sydney: I like curvy, they are fat. I mean some of them effect the tides.
guts on females and males are gross.
man boobs are the worst though.
"I was shocked to see this kind of body shaming language from any magazine, much less one named after a woman who has had her weight scrutinized throughout her career."
There is a good reason her weight "was scrutinized" (note passive voice here) Oprah at times was just plain fat.
Some of the girls have Dunlop disease. Their gut dun lop over their belt.
I could lose 20 lbs. I like women. I wear looser fitting clothes (And shorts. And flip flops). I'm 55, I'm a widower, I can get laid anytime I want (Much to my 25 year old mindset's amazement).
Just in case you ladies need any advice.
How revolting! Note, however, that although Prof. Althouse forthrightly criticizes male fashions she doesn't like, she is too politically correct to actually say anything negative about revolting female fashions.
Every time I visit here, I take women less seriously.
#Rockthecrop?
I'm thinking of field crops. Corn, soybeans, rice, alfalfa, even avocado or apples or cherries. Stuff like that.
Or tomatoes. In my part of South Carolina harvested all by hand. By thin people.
Rock the crop sounds like great advice in that context. Put down the 32 ounce soda (not 44, since you are on a diet), lick no donuts, get up at dawn, head for the field and work 8-12 hours. In other words, get a job that requires actual physical labor.
You will be surprised at the results.
I finally looked at that link. Man there are some ugly women there. I wish I could unseen that stuff.
Crop tops : Whale Tails.
Sometimes not being comfortable about one's appearance might actually be a Good Thing.
Not that I am a frequent viewer of porn films (although it's hard to avoid these days).
That's an onlytell.
I don't think we should have separate laws for fat people. They deserve protection of the law as much as anyone. But that doesn't mean I will admire or support their sloth. No matter their protestations, deep down they are ashamed.
I don't think we should have laws for homosexuals. They deserve protection of the law as much as anyone. But that doesn't mean I will admire or support their perversion. No matter their protestations, deep down they are ashamed.
It's all part of a continuing degradation of human dignity.
Every time I visit here, I take women less seriously
After five or six years, Althouse convinced me we need to repeal the 19th Amendment.
It's strange that as "full delusion jacket" becomes the mental choice of (some) women at the same time those same women become supporters of honesty in clothing.
Men, don't worry - merely know that the full-delusion-jacket is worn by heavy women who wear cropped tops and the truth will keep you free. It's called truth in advertising and should not be criticized.
"a question arose" is nice passive voice.
Wonder was it was that aroused you.
I just went back and briefly looked. I've been reading/commenting here since at least Dec 2006. I noticed a couple of things:
1) A lot of us regular posters have been here a long time. lots of familiar names back there.
2) Althouse used to post as Ann Althouse in the comment sections.
"2) Althouse used to post as Ann Althouse in the comment sections."
Is that supposed to imply that I've stopped commenting or that I've changed my name? Neither is true.
I hope this takes off in my town among both sexes. There's little I can imagine that would be more entertaining than leaving the house and finding everyone in the wider world wearing crop tops.
I imagine it as something like if the work of R. Crumb came into being.
Is that supposed to imply that I've stopped commenting or that I've changed my name?
No..I just vaguely remember you making a big deal about wanting to be referred to as "Althouse" instead of "Ann", and it just stuck out to me.
And I now I notice, you still post as "Ann Althouse". For some reason I thought you had changed that to simply "Althouse".
Wait. The outrage began when a fashion magazine gave fashion advice?
I think this is all part of the anti-sex movement. A guy can't have sex without getting a notarized consent statement (and breathalizer test) from his victim -- I mean his partner. Used to be (I'm told) that late in the evening, when the only women in the place were, shall we say, plain, a guy would say, All cats look the same in the dark. Now you've got to see the protruding flesh in the harsh light of neon.
Masturbation is looking better all the time (and somebody up thread told us how easy it is to accidently find porn on the internet).
You do notice, don't you, that the only group with a high birth rate is the Muslims, who cover their women up? The future belongs to those who reproduce.
I rechecked the hashtag. The pictures have only gotten worse.
Class tells. And shows, regrettably. Our society is so affluent that shitheels wash up into every corner of society. From the toothless trailer park tweaker to the Democratic presidential candidate. It will be fascinating to watch the cultural tide turn, though.
Chuck said...
Is bodyshaming a microaggression or a macroaggression?
I think wearing the crop top in such a case is a big macroaggression, if you know what I mean.
You know, I don't even really mind this in real life. I have friends who are overweight, and they're perfectly nice people.
But there's something about the internet that turns minor flaws into utter craziness. People tell themselves complicated lies and get worked up about imaginary oppression and "shaming" to deny the obvious.
If you look like the average American, you could stand to lose five or ten pounds. You would look better, you would feel better, you'd be healthier. But you don't. You don't like being hungry, you don't like exercising, your significant other doesn't care that deeply about appearance. That's rational, if maybe a little bit lazy. Everybody has imperfections.
Where people get crazy is in refusing to acknowledge the perfectly obvious fact that they're not perfect. They weigh too much, therefore they should avoid fashions designed for skinny people. Instead of being a truism, somehow that's "shaming." They go on and on and on about freaking Barbie, as though the only acceptable way to scale an adult woman to a tiny plastic figurine is to rigorously maintain the population's average BMI at all times (which, again, is too high).
For whatever reason, it is much more admirable in our society to be (or pretend to be) powerless than to simply take control over your life. Instead of simply acknowledging that you could lose five pounds and choose not to, you've got to make those five pounds the center of your existence and be an utter jerk about it.
If Obamacare is to ever become affordable and available, there will be a need for, in addition to elective abortion and euthanasia, people to curtail activities that cause self-harm, including male and female beer bellies. It's part and parcel of the "shared responsibility" mandate. Perhaps Oprah was recruited to dignify shaming. This is what the people wanted. A mother-in-law form of government.
I don't want to live in a world where people get fashion tips from Buzzfeed and twitter hashtags.
I guess my web browser is protecting me by blocking the pictures, even after I allowed all links temporarily. I could probably try IE but intuition says don't go there.
Austerity : Greece :: Oprah's advice : #RockTheCrop
The Lena Dunhaming of America.
For whatever reason, it is much more admirable in our society to be (or pretend to be) powerless than to simply take control over your life.
Amen, Zach.
MayBee beat me to it.
Lena Dunham.
Freeman, if I could cackle, I would cackle with glee at your comments.
I think they are just not good at reading comprehension: "Can I pull off a crop top" is not the same thing as, "Is is physically possible to wear a crop top".
They are most decidedly not pulling it off. Though the very last picture of a young woman in a pale green shirt and cut-offs looks cute.
I've dated and lusted for and been attracted to big women before. Usually, these women know where their strongest assets are. Nice rack, or a shapely butt, or toned calves, or something. They know it's not their midsection, and the smart ones cover it up, while emphasizing their other assets. Big women tend to have big boobs, and for a boob-guy like me, this makes a little spare tire far less important.
I feel more sorry for the skinny women who cannot gain weight and will go through life with no chest to speak of and a flat, unappealing rear. Yes, these women are people and have feelings, but they will never be able to get a rise out of many men. Hopefully that doesn't matter to them. I'm sure there are some guys attracted to the mega-skinny look. I just haven't met any.
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