May 6, 2015

"An aide to state Atty. Gen. Kamala D. Harris and two others are accused of operating a rogue police force that claimed to exist for more than 3,000 years and have jurisdiction in 33 states and Mexico..."

"... authorities said Tuesday."
Brandon Kiel, David Henry and Tonette Hayes were arrested last week on suspicion of impersonating a police officer through their roles in the Masonic Fraternal Police Department....

A website identifying itself as the police force's official site describes what makes the group unique: "When asked what is the difference between the Masonic Fraternal Police Department and other Police Departments the answer is simple for us. We were here first!... We are born into this Organization our bloodlines go deeper then an application. This is more then a job it is an obligation."

67 comments:

mccullough said...

The League of Shadows.

Eric the Fruit Bat said...

The Godfather (1972) seems to have skipped over that intermediate phase.

Kzookitty said...

Must be legit, they have an official website.

kzookitty

pduggie said...

The Man Who Would Be King....

(or police)

RazorSharpSundries said...

If they've been around for 3,000 years, have jurisdiction in 33 states as well as Mexico then they are doing one hell of a shitty job.

Sebastian said...

3,000 years, and still having trouble with spelling.

David said...

Tonette, eh? No wonder she's crazy. It's Walker's fault.

Psota said...

Wasn't this a plot-point in "The Crying of Lot 49?"

The Drill SGT said...

whose members trace their origins to the Knights Templar

They weren't around 3,000 years ago. Better build a new back story. The Knights Templar date from around 1100 AD

Harris has been touted as an up and comer in Progressive circles. This group looks edgy and Black powerish...

Sammy Finkelman said...

They don't teach history (or geography or civics) very much aymore.

Otherwise everyone would have spotted these claims immediately as impossible.

Sammy Finkelman said...

"Better build a new back story. The Knights Templar date from around 1100 AD"

Maybe they could try King Saul or police department of Troy.

Quaestor said...

From the website:
The Masonic Fraternal Organization is the oldest and most respected organization in the “World.” Grand Masters around the various states are facing serious safety concerns for their Jurisdictions and their family members. The first Police Department was created by the "Knights Templar's" back in 1100 B.C.

The Masonic Fraternal Police Department, (M.F.P.D.) is the Knights Templar's!


I'm flummoxed. I've made three attempts to write a comment, but I have shitcanned each one as banal and obvious, I simply lack the eloquence. The L.A. Times article is likewise banal and obvious. All I can say is visit masonicfraternalpolicedepartment.org and behold a witches brew of insanity and swinish ignorance. And while you struggle to lift your jaw from the floor keep in mind that the persons responsible for that monstrosity are peripherally connected to law enforcement in California.

I respectfully submit that the statehood of California be provisionally suspended until the scope of this perversion is realized and dealt with.

richard mcenroe said...

If these people were for real I'm pretty sure we would have heard of it in the Masonic Intelligence Agency by now...

richard mcenroe said...

I mean, if there was a Masonic Intelligence Agency.

richard mcenroe said...

And I had anything to do with it.

richard mcenroe said...

Or knew a thing about it...dammit....

damikesc said...

Let me guess --- to her voters, this isn't a big deal that she employed such a fucking charlatan...

retired said...

Harris will still get elected to the Senate despite the fact that her choice of foolish and criminal associates illustrate her true character and competency. Maybe a notch lower than Boxer. Harris was Willie Brown's concubine for years and years.

mikee said...

Well, I went to their website and tried to guess the password that allows one to access info on their organizations in all 33 states, but after Guest, Admin, 123456, Qwerty, Mason, Grandmaster, and Klaatu Barada Nictu, I gave up.

Their password security is better than I expected.

Any hackers out there who want to help, all I need to know about is whether my home state of Texas is involved in this, or not. Before Jade Helm starts....

Carter Wood said...

All foretold by Georg Büchner:

Woyzek: Stampft auf den Boden: Hohl, hörst Du? Alles hohl da unten! Die Freimaurer!

Woyzek stamps on the ground: Do you hear it? Hollow! Everything is hollow down there. The Freemasons!

Buechner died in 1837 before finishing the play. Coincidence?

SteveR said...

An aide to state Atty. Gen. and future United States Senator Kamala D. Harris... FIFY

richard mcenroe said...

Harris will still get elected to the Senate despite the fact that her choice of foolish and criminal associates illustrate her true character and competency.

No, she will get elected BECAUSE of her choice of foolish and criminal associates.

Democrats get off on that. They think they're sticking it to the man when they support thugs and slime. What do you think the Clintons are all about?

MadisonMan said...

I mean, if there was a Masonic Intelligence Agency.

There is one. It's missing in action.

Eustace Chilke said...

The Illuminati will not be pleased.

pst314 said...

"a rogue police force that claimed to exist for more than 3,000 years..."

"An order with secret rites, grotesque ceremonies and fantastic costumes, which, originating in the reign of Charles II, among working artisans of London, has been joined successively by the dead of past centuries in unbroken retrogression until now it embraces all the generations of man on the hither side of Adam and is drumming up distinguished recruits among the pre-Creational inhabitants of Chaos and Formless Void. The order was founded at different times by Charlemagne, Julius Caesar, Cyrus, Solomon, Zoroaster, Confucious, Thothmes, and Buddha. Its emblems and symbols have been found in the Catacombs of Paris and Rome, on the stones of the Parthenon and the Chinese Great Wall, among the temples of Karnak and Palmyra and in the Egyptian Pyramids -- always by a Freemason."
--The Devil's Dictionary, by Ambrose Bierce

Rick said...

Which is crazier: that they publicized their roles in this organization or that they were arrested for it?

Gabriel said...

I can't figure this out.

Are the three "Masonic" "cops" crazy? Or are they making a joke, which the State of California took the wrong way, in which case is the State of California crazy?

Both groups of course can be crazy.

Big Mike said...

The party affiliation is not shown for Harris, but I think we can safely assume she's a Republican because garage mahal assures us that only Republicans associate with crazy people. Garage wouldn't lie to us, would he?

Unknown said...

What does "rogue police force" mean? I thought rogue meant real but run amok; here it seems to mean fake or pretend. Charge is "impersonating a police officer" not "warrantless search."

richard mcenroe said...

Big Mike, she's a Democrat but she's black so you can't talk about her criminal associations because Teh Racism. And Teh Sexism. And Tea Party, I'm sure. That last one is like referencing Marbury v. Madison in every SCOTUS case.

Mountain Maven said...

richard mcenroe said...
No, she will get elected BECAUSE of her choice of foolish and criminal associates.
Democrats get off on that. They think they're sticking it to the man when they support thugs and slime. What do you think the Clintons are all about?

MONEY and POWER, with a bit of ideology thrown in for show, like the Train to Nowhere. a la Gov Moonbeam.

Harris could never get rich on her own. The corruption is part of the package.

Ralph Hyatt said...

From reading the news article and perusing the website it appears that they are in trouble for having a pretty shaky grasp on reality.

To be fair, it doesn't take that much to get charged for impersonating a police officer. A pretty prominent youth pastor around here ended up in jail for flashing a honorary badge during an argument and claiming to be a cop.

Real cops want to discourage crooks from impersonating police officers, so there's a zero tolerance attitude.

Bob Ellison said...

I, for one, welcome the new bat-crazy overlords of the Democrat party.

Rick said...

To be fair, it doesn't take that much to get charged for impersonating a police officer. A pretty prominent youth pastor around here ended up in jail for flashing a honorary badge during an argument and claiming to be a cop.

I think that's easily distinguishable from the current case.

1. In the pastor event the badge is shown to the public, rather than other police. We deem it easier to mislead the public so greater protection is appropriate. It's also more appropriate because there is a greater potential for harm.

2. In this case the "suspects" seem to have claimed to be police of a specific organization which was obviously not governmental.

If this is the entire story - and it's quite likely it is not - I predict the charges will be dropped.

Joseph O'Brien said...

The force behind the authority that made Steve Gutenberg a star.

Marc Puckett said...

There are good reasons that Catholics are generally well-advised to stay away from membership in the lodges.

I don't care how these people came up with their three millennia number but the specificity of the '33 states' and 'Mexico City' makes me wonder-- are these three people in this adult fantasy theatre alone or are there others involved?

Big Mike said...

@richard mcenroe, yes I knew that. It's a measure of the potential seriousness of the situation that the LA Times studiously avoids identifying the party affiliation.

@Drill SGT, I think that it's a sad commentary on elementary education when they subtract 1100 from 2015 and get 3000.

Anonymous said...

I got busted by them once. They took me in the back room and gave me the 32nd degree.

gerry said...

There is one. It's missing in action.

Good one.

Mitch H. said...

Why isn't this the joke it looks like?

Gabriel said...

@Drill SGT, Big Mike: Freemasons typically claim to derive from the Temple of Solomon, not the Knights Templar, which is probably where the 3000 year figure comes from, and these guys may have confused the two.

Of course not all Freemasons actually believe that they derive from Solomon's Temple.

@everyone: I suppose I am deeply unnerved that you can be prosecuted for pretending to be something that doesn't exist--if I put a police badge on my Santa suit can I go to jail for impersonating "Officer Kringle of the North Pole PD"?

The whole point of the impersonation charge is to punish people for claiming to be a member of an organization that they aren't members of, but imaginary organizations don't have any members to impersonate.

lemondog said...

Which 33 states?

Ralph Hyatt said...

Don't leave the web page open in a tab in your browser. It eats up cpu cycles.

Mary Beth said...

According to who.is, the site is registered to Nelson Alvarado who also owns postedprinting.com. (Both sites use the same template. Both suck.)

Whois says the info was updated today, so I wonder what was changed. If it were me, I would have changed the registration to private.

lemondog said...

I assume Loretta Lynch will be flying to LA.......

In Baltimore, U.S. attorney general pledges to help police reform

Tyrone Slothrop said...

lemondog said...
Which 33 states?


And which 24 are left out?

Ralph Hyatt said...

@Gabriel

I suspect is was the scheduling appointments with actual police chiefs and talking like you think you are an actual cop with actual authority with them thing that got them into trouble.

If you pin a badge on while wearing a Santa suit at a Christmas party thats one thing. If you then schedule an appointment with your local Chief of Police in order to discuss interdepartmental cooperation, that is another.

Ralph Hyatt said...


Also, in the about section of the web page there is this:

"We are not “Sovereign Citizens’ nor do we condone terrorist activity, sovereign citizens or clandestine! "

I wonder if this is recently added to the web page. Maybe they gave the cops the wrong impression.

They may be crazy, but they're not that kind of crazy.

traditionalguy said...

An appearance of AUTHORITY is con game basics. The Marxists always followed that up with the taking control of the Radio and TV and the Police force.

The UN IPCC has been doing something very similar to that and its only 30 years old.

But why the American Military are practicing that exercise in fake and real US towns is the real mystery.

damikesc said...

Don't leave the web page open in a tab in your browser. It eats up cpu cycles.

Rogue cops AND crap coders. This is bad.

pduggie said...

GAOTU would be a good password guess

traditionalguy said...

The 33rd Degree Grand Potentates are not cleaning up the LAPD good enough. The Aztecs need a turn.

The Cracker Emcee said...

"Blogger Tyrone Slothrop said...
lemondog said...
Which 33 states?

And which 24 are left out?"

Thank you!

Sam L. said...

I can only say it's a damn good thing they weren't Rosicrucians!
Ain't goin' THERE.

Fritz said...

California, land of fruits and nuts.

I say this as a lapsed Californian.

Bob Ellison said...

There should be a list of the non-24-states. I'll start it off:

Puerto Rico
Phoenix (actually counts as 3)
Belgium
North Dakota

Rick said...

http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/302793471.html?page=1&c=y

A website for the police force says the group was created by the Knights Templar in 1100 B.C.

The 3,000 year claim seems to stem from an error in AD/BC.


Also interesting:

An internal law enforcement bulletin obtained by the AP said "the letters, the mention of sovereignty, and the station visit have caused concern among law enforcement agencies as to the legitimacy of this policing organization."

The letter issued Feb. 10 by the sheriff's intelligence unit said the unit was verifying its status and claims of sovereignty but said no crime was established.


So authorities seem aware of the lack of a crime issue.

And:

detectives believe other people may be involved in the operation and deputies found ID cards, uniforms, and vehicles that appeared to look like law enforcement vehicles along with other official police equipment during their search of a home and office linked to the group.

This makes me wonder if the arrests are to hold people while they investigate actual crimes. Also consider the "rogue" to "fictitious" change. Maybe information given on background made the word "rogue" seem appropriate. The group could - for example - be staging police raids on drug dealers and keeping contraband.

Wilbur said...

I hope this story gets picked up nationally, if no other reason than to avoid the flypaper LA Times site.

This is the weirdest thing I've seen in a while. Alternatively, it's the scariest thing I've seen in a while.

Leftists eyeroll at this, but I have to say it ... Imagine if this had been similarly situated Republicans involved in this sort of activity. Imagine it in your state, Wisconsin. It would lead the alphabet network news for weeks.

Michael K said...

" And while you struggle to lift your jaw from the floor keep in mind that the persons responsible for that monstrosity are peripherally connected to law enforcement in California."

One of them represents Harris at city events. I read this stuff and all I can think of is the Amos and Andy lodge. Can't remember the name right now but it's racist.

richardsson said...

I recently finished reading Michael Haag's book The Templars. Haag writes that the Templars came to an end when James de Molay was burned at the stake by the King of France in 1314. The Masonic movement didn't began until the 1700's.

My Uncles were Masons of varying degrees and it never occurred to me that it was anything but a bunch of small town businessmen engaged in networking. Laurel and Hardy captured my impression of the Masons in their movie Sons of the Desert.

But, I think this is hilarious. It makes Kamala Harris look like a buffoon. In California, there's plenty more buffoonery from where that came.

geokstr said...

Fritz said...
California, land of fruits and nuts and flakes.

FIFY. It isn't called the Granola State for nothing.

I say this as a lapsed Californian.
And I say this as a 22 year inhabitant of 90210. I moved to Atlanta because I read there weren't many ex-Californians here.

Quaestor said...

I read this stuff and all I can think of is the Amos and Andy lodge. Can't remember the name right now but it's racist.

The Mystic Knights of the Sea, the poobah of same was titled King Fish, hence George Stevens' soubriquet. Not racist to my mind, in fact by comparison to the "Masonic Fraternal Police Department" the Mystic Knights were the Ford Foundation.

Anonymous said...

This sounds very similar to a scheme used by some black NYC employees to avoid paying taxes. In that case members claimed they did not have to pay income tax because they were descendants of Atlantis rather than American citizens. Expect a further investigation to find a motive like tax avoidance for the crazy.

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/12/04/nyregion/tax-scheme-points-to-role-of-black-separatist-group.html

Paul said...

These people are cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

Nuts. And dangerous nuts at that.

Book 'em Danno.

Rusty said...

Psota said...
Wasn't this a plot-point in "The Crying of Lot 49?"

Not even Tristerio claimed to be 3000 years old.
D.E.A.T.H.
And dont you forget it.

Charlie said...

"Wasn't this a plot-point in "The Crying of Lot 49?"

That was a rogue postal system, as I recall.

deepelemblues said...

It's hard to be reptile lizard alien police anymore.