"... but many gays aren’t laughing. A Huffington Post commenter decried the phrase, writing, 'we do not need this type of exposure, as it does not help our LGBT community at all,' and Zach Stafford has penned a screed against the thing in the Guardian, declaring that it relies on a logic of 'bottom-shaming,' the essentially misogynistic notion that bottoming is more effeminate—and therefore a lesser act—than topping. Stafford’s point is well-taken (I definitely share his dislike for the way bottom-shaming often creeps into gay men’s discourse), but I wonder if it’s totally fair...."
From a surprisingly long piece at Slate by J. Bryan Lowder called "Should Gays Bottom for Hillary?"
April 17, 2015
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I think Hillary would need them to vote for her. Sexual acts will have no effect on her campaign.
Or they could get out there and knock on doors, make calls, etc.
This Bottom?
That gay men would be more prone to misogyny that straight men is intuitively obvious.
Yep, this is over the line!
That "tea bagger" phrase was OK though cause it was targeting those evil Tea Party fascists.
The intended destination of MSNBC's "Lean Forward" (Bend Over) campaign: everyone taking it up the ass, figuratively at least.
Looking at your typical Craigslist personal ad, I would suspect there are plenty of guys who would bottom for nothing. Most likely, "Ryan" is no exception.
I believe everyone is supposed to bottom for Hillary!
How bigoted of gays to say bottoming is demeaning
Some days, I look forward to the mullahs taking over and all of us being foribly converted just so we don't have to have these conversations. Whatever folks want to do in their own bedroom - or any other room in the house for that matter - is fine, but forcibly inserting it into presidential politics is over the top.
That's all they'll do for her?
Surely married gays wouldn't, though, would they? Because they're married and all?
So we're supposed to visualize Hillary with a strap-on, nipples erect with delight and vaginal juices flowing?
(Sorry about that).
In a penetrating analysis, isn't Ms. Rodham Clinton destined to disappoint unless she resorts to artifice? Or takes up cigars?
Will voters be satisfied by brown-nosing or demand the real, ahem, thing?
I am so fucking tired of identity politics. These people could literally spend an entire year analyzing any single thing. They create artificial controversies and then the articles and debates proliferate.
It's so ridiculous and wasteful. In a sane world, these people would be working in factories or something.
With apologies to Mr. Rowe, someone's gotta do it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMnjF1O4eH0.
Laslo, you missed your cue. You're on.
I am continually awed by the contribution overt gaydom is making to our culture and our vocabulary.
How about, "I'd cornhole for Christie." "I'd punch the starfish for Warren."
Awesome!
I have to wonder how many older, affluent gay guys go to a young, good-looking male prostitute and ask to be on the receiving end of a good, solid, invigorating session of anal penetration.
George Costanza wondered how lesbians decide who leads when they dance.
Sort of like that, only dirtier.
...declaring that it relies on a logic of 'bottom-shaming,' the essentially misogynistic notion that bottoming is more effeminate—and therefore a lesser act—than topping.
Wait a second, now - it's not misogynist to say that bottoming is more effeminate, and it's not misogynist to say that bottoming is a lesser act.
It is, however, misogynist to say that effeminate is synonymous with lesser.
But who, exactly, is doing that? I don't think it's this Ryan person.
Is this something like the Pres. Obama as boyfriend meme?
This is so queer.
Again, there's that Enquirer story.
If she's in the closet it may explain why she seems inauthentic.
If I were advising her, I'd want her 'outed' sooner rather than later, so she can get this behind her and use it as an issue to attack GOP haters.
People take the fun out of sex.
No one can be light hearted anymore. I think it's a funny name for a group made in good nature. The image of Hillary strapping it on and sticking it in a prostrate man's ass is an apt symbol of her policies
It's the race to the bottom.
Scott's Query: Just how affluent does a society have to be before this sort of thing becomes a problem?
Doesn't the entire argument pivot on what direction the en flagrante partners are facing?
Vote for Hillary!
The first Gay President!
It shall be called "Bottom's Dream" for it hath no bottom
hombre said...
I am continually awed by the contribution overt gaydom is making to our culture and our vocabulary.
How about "Bugchasers for Hillarycare!"
More insect politics!
It's been bad enough listening to the current cyborg president for almost eight years; having to bottom for Hillary! for another would require so much lubricant it would increase global temperatures permanently.
St George,
" so she can get this behind her"
I don't think you can say that.
Bottom shaming? Is that a real thing.
Hillary's Ode (Really Ode)
My muffin is not buttered,
My taco's lost its pink,
I am so fucking tired,
I haven't slept a wink!
I'm not too old to do this,
It won't push me to the brink,
But talking about bottoming?
I've barely time to think!
Wonderful--apparently you can sell the gays up the river for decades, oppose their right to marry until one year ago, and they'll still "bottom" for you. Nice to see how easily bought some people are.
Reggie Love was unavailable for comment.
Ball gags are funny that way.
Basketball jokes I mean.
Hillary will not use lubricant and won't give a reach around.
I am a top and I can say there are so many more bottoms than tops.
I suck cock really bad and I can't take a dick up my ass because its so tight.
So basically I just get blown. I don't like to fuck either because asses scare me....unless it's really hot and there is nothing in it. I would make them finger it real deep to make sure there is no shit smell. Also, I want to inspect it so I tell them to open with and then I examine with a flashlight.
Titus said...
4/17/15, 12:57 PM
O K ....
Really, dude, TMI!
Titus wrote: Also, I want to inspect it so I tell them to open with and then I examine with a flashlight.
Cave canem or caveat emptor?
Wouldn't the fellating/bottoming gay and the penetrating lesbian be the true homosexuals, mechanically speaking?
Titus
would you bottom for Hillary?
This post was total Titus-bait.
Eric the Fruit Bat said...
I have to wonder how many older, affluent gay guys go to a young, good-looking male prostitute and ask to be on the receiving end of a good, solid, invigorating session of anal penetration.
A good question to direct to Barney Frank.
Tops are a much smaller percentage of the gay community - or so I've been told. So it's really just self-hatred for them to be so judgmental of a bottom-heavy (cough) outreach.
So, after 80 years, we finally get the double entendre in Cole Parter's "You're the Top."
MM:
"(Sorry about that)."
I should hope so! :(
Overt gays are by and large despicable, horrid, tasteless vulgarians.
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