April 17, 2015

"In interviews, Ryan has characterized his #BottomForHillary movement as 'just a fun way for people to show support for a presidential candidate'..."

"... but many gays aren’t laughing. A Huffington Post commenter decried the phrase, writing, 'we do not need this type of exposure, as it does not help our LGBT community at all,' and Zach Stafford has penned a screed against the thing in the Guardian, declaring that it relies on a logic of 'bottom-shaming,' the essentially misogynistic notion that bottoming is more effeminate—and therefore a lesser act—than topping. Stafford’s point is well-taken (I definitely share his dislike for the way bottom-shaming often creeps into gay men’s discourse), but I wonder if it’s totally fair...."

From a surprisingly long piece at Slate by J. Bryan Lowder called "Should Gays Bottom for Hillary?"

48 comments:

MaxedOutMama said...

I think Hillary would need them to vote for her. Sexual acts will have no effect on her campaign.

Or they could get out there and knock on doors, make calls, etc.

Henry said...

This Bottom?

pduggie said...

That gay men would be more prone to misogyny that straight men is intuitively obvious.

Todd said...

Yep, this is over the line!

That "tea bagger" phrase was OK though cause it was targeting those evil Tea Party fascists.

EDH said...

The intended destination of MSNBC's "Lean Forward" (Bend Over) campaign: everyone taking it up the ass, figuratively at least.

alan markus said...

Looking at your typical Craigslist personal ad, I would suspect there are plenty of guys who would bottom for nothing. Most likely, "Ryan" is no exception.

Mark said...

I believe everyone is supposed to bottom for Hillary!

RAH said...

How bigoted of gays to say bottoming is demeaning

holdfast said...

Some days, I look forward to the mullahs taking over and all of us being foribly converted just so we don't have to have these conversations. Whatever folks want to do in their own bedroom - or any other room in the house for that matter - is fine, but forcibly inserting it into presidential politics is over the top.

Sebastian said...

That's all they'll do for her?

Surely married gays wouldn't, though, would they? Because they're married and all?

MadisonMan said...

So we're supposed to visualize Hillary with a strap-on, nipples erect with delight and vaginal juices flowing?

(Sorry about that).

Laura said...

In a penetrating analysis, isn't Ms. Rodham Clinton destined to disappoint unless she resorts to artifice? Or takes up cigars?

Will voters be satisfied by brown-nosing or demand the real, ahem, thing?

BDNYC said...

I am so fucking tired of identity politics. These people could literally spend an entire year analyzing any single thing. They create artificial controversies and then the articles and debates proliferate.

It's so ridiculous and wasteful. In a sane world, these people would be working in factories or something.

Laura said...

With apologies to Mr. Rowe, someone's gotta do it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMnjF1O4eH0.

Wilbur said...

Laslo, you missed your cue. You're on.

hombre said...

I am continually awed by the contribution overt gaydom is making to our culture and our vocabulary.

How about, "I'd cornhole for Christie." "I'd punch the starfish for Warren."

Awesome!

Eric the Fruit Bat said...

I have to wonder how many older, affluent gay guys go to a young, good-looking male prostitute and ask to be on the receiving end of a good, solid, invigorating session of anal penetration.

George Costanza wondered how lesbians decide who leads when they dance.

Sort of like that, only dirtier.

SeanF said...

...declaring that it relies on a logic of 'bottom-shaming,' the essentially misogynistic notion that bottoming is more effeminate—and therefore a lesser act—than topping.

Wait a second, now - it's not misogynist to say that bottoming is more effeminate, and it's not misogynist to say that bottoming is a lesser act.

It is, however, misogynist to say that effeminate is synonymous with lesser.

But who, exactly, is doing that? I don't think it's this Ryan person.

Peter said...

Is this something like the Pres. Obama as boyfriend meme?

walter said...

This is so queer.

St. George said...

Again, there's that Enquirer story.

If she's in the closet it may explain why she seems inauthentic.

If I were advising her, I'd want her 'outed' sooner rather than later, so she can get this behind her and use it as an issue to attack GOP haters.

SteveR said...

People take the fun out of sex.

mccullough said...

No one can be light hearted anymore. I think it's a funny name for a group made in good nature. The image of Hillary strapping it on and sticking it in a prostrate man's ass is an apt symbol of her policies

walter said...

It's the race to the bottom.

Scott M said...

Scott's Query: Just how affluent does a society have to be before this sort of thing becomes a problem?

Scott M said...

Doesn't the entire argument pivot on what direction the en flagrante partners are facing?

Anonymous said...

Vote for Hillary!

The first Gay President!

mccullough said...

It shall be called "Bottom's Dream" for it hath no bottom

chickelit said...

hombre said...
I am continually awed by the contribution overt gaydom is making to our culture and our vocabulary.

How about "Bugchasers for Hillarycare!"

More insect politics!

Marty Keller said...

It's been bad enough listening to the current cyborg president for almost eight years; having to bottom for Hillary! for another would require so much lubricant it would increase global temperatures permanently.

exhelodrvr1 said...

St George,
" so she can get this behind her"

I don't think you can say that.

jr565 said...

Bottom shaming? Is that a real thing.

BarrySanders20 said...

Hillary's Ode (Really Ode)

My muffin is not buttered,
My taco's lost its pink,
I am so fucking tired,
I haven't slept a wink!

I'm not too old to do this,
It won't push me to the brink,
But talking about bottoming?
I've barely time to think!

Brando said...

Wonderful--apparently you can sell the gays up the river for decades, oppose their right to marry until one year ago, and they'll still "bottom" for you. Nice to see how easily bought some people are.

Mark said...

Reggie Love was unavailable for comment.

holdfast said...

Ball gags are funny that way.

Basketball jokes I mean.

mccullough said...

Hillary will not use lubricant and won't give a reach around.

Titus said...

I am a top and I can say there are so many more bottoms than tops.

I suck cock really bad and I can't take a dick up my ass because its so tight.

So basically I just get blown. I don't like to fuck either because asses scare me....unless it's really hot and there is nothing in it. I would make them finger it real deep to make sure there is no shit smell. Also, I want to inspect it so I tell them to open with and then I examine with a flashlight.

Todd said...

Titus said...

4/17/15, 12:57 PM


O K ....

Really, dude, TMI!

chickelit said...

Titus wrote: Also, I want to inspect it so I tell them to open with and then I examine with a flashlight.

Cave canem or caveat emptor?

Laura said...

Wouldn't the fellating/bottoming gay and the penetrating lesbian be the true homosexuals, mechanically speaking?

mccullough said...

Titus

would you bottom for Hillary?

Alex said...

This post was total Titus-bait.

Fritz said...

Eric the Fruit Bat said...
I have to wonder how many older, affluent gay guys go to a young, good-looking male prostitute and ask to be on the receiving end of a good, solid, invigorating session of anal penetration.


A good question to direct to Barney Frank.

Anonymous said...

Tops are a much smaller percentage of the gay community - or so I've been told. So it's really just self-hatred for them to be so judgmental of a bottom-heavy (cough) outreach.

robother said...

So, after 80 years, we finally get the double entendre in Cole Parter's "You're the Top."

Largo said...

MM:

"(Sorry about that)."

I should hope so! :(

Doug said...

Overt gays are by and large despicable, horrid, tasteless vulgarians.