Althouse: At the Magnolia Café...

April 27, 2015

At the Magnolia Café...

... you can talk about whatever you want.

31 comments:

sparrow said...: Yellow tulip Magnolia - rare around here (Memphis) - and well past flowering; 4/27/15, 12:04 PM
Etienne said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 4/27/15, 12:08 PM
rhhardin said...: Amazon keeps suggesting, and I keep not buying, Steel Magnolias DVD.; 4/27/15, 12:08 PM
Scott said...: Is anti-microaggression an expression of microfascism?; 4/27/15, 12:19 PM
Etienne said...: Re: Steel Magnolias

I think the face of Olympia Dukakis was the reason why large paper shopping bags were invented.; 4/27/15, 12:24 PM
Lyle Sanford, RMT said...: Georgia O'Keeffe!; 4/27/15, 12:36 PM
rhhardin said...: Native plum (tree).; 4/27/15, 12:53 PM
Big Mike said...: The plum trees and Bradford pears have dropped their blossoms, and the forsythia are going from chrome yellow to green. Dang! This was a very short Spring.; 4/27/15, 1:08 PM
damikesc said...: Chipotle banned GMO foods today ... yet they still have corn which is exceptionally genetically modified (corn was originally tiny, had few kernels, and tasted terrible). Seeing any type of corn listed as being "GMO free" is amusing given that people have modified corn for centuries now.

Ditto any vegetables they have.

The anti-GMO crowd is no better than anti-vacciners.; 4/27/15, 1:29 PM
Ignorance is Bliss said...: The plum trees and Bradford pears have dropped their blossoms, and the forsythia are going from chrome yellow to green. Dang! This was a very short Spring.

I live in NH. That very short spring has not gotten here yet. Our Bradford pear and forsythias still have not blossomed. ( I have seen some forsythia in the area in blossom, but only where they are well sheltered with good sunlight, sort of an ideal micro-climate. The macro-climate hasn't caught up yet. ); 4/27/15, 1:40 PM
Tank said...: By Cheryl K. Chumley - The Washington Times - Monday, October 20, 2014

Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, city officials have laid down the law to Christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.

The dictate comes on the heels of a legal battle with Donald and Evelyn Knapp, ordained ministers who own the Hitching Post wedding chapel in the city, but who oppose gay marriage, The Daily Caller reported.

A federal judge recently ruled that the state's ban on gay marriage was unconstitutional, while the city of Coeur d'Alene has an ordinance that prevents discrimination based on sexual preference.

The Supreme Court's recent refusal to take on gay rights' appeals from five states has opened the doors for same-sex marriages to go forth.

The Knapps were just asked by a gay couple to perform their wedding ceremony, The Daily Caller reported.

"On Friday, a same-sex couple asked to be married by the Knapps, and the Knapps politely declined," The Daily Signal reported. "The Knapps now face a 180-day jail term and a $1,000 fine for each day they decline to celebrate the same-sex wedding."

The Alliance Defending Freedom has filed a suit in federal court to stop the city from enforcing the fine and jail sentence, saying in a statement from senior legal counsel Jeremy Tedesco that the government has overstepped its bounds, The Daily Caller reported.

"Many have denied that pastors would ever be forced to perform ceremonies that are completely at odds with their faith, but that's what is happening here — and it's happened this quickly," Mr. Tedersco said, The Daily Caller reported.

But the city sees it differently. As far back as May, city officials were insisting that their ordinance is indeed in line with law.

"If you turn away a gay couple, refuse to provide services for them, then in theory you violated our code, and you're looking at a potential misdemeanor citation," said Coeur d'Alene City Attorney Warren Wilson, to KXLY months ago.

Nice.; 4/27/15, 1:43 PM
Big Mike said...: @Tank, they ought to accept the jail sentence and write their own "Letter from Birmingham Jail"; 4/27/15, 1:48 PM
damikesc said...: Are there NO other pastors in that city?; 4/27/15, 1:49 PM
MadisonMan said...: Are there NO other pastors in that city?

Apparently not.

The obvious question: Are these people who own a Wedding Chapel, or are they leaders of a Church? If they are ordained Ministers in a church that doesn't recognize same-sex marriages as part of its sacraments -- how can that person be compelled by the Govt to perform a ceremony that runs counter to the teaching of the Church?

There is either a First Amendment, or there isn't.; 4/27/15, 2:07 PM
damikesc said...: I'm fairly sure a Justice of the Peace exists there. And a quick Google search indicates other wedding officiates in Couer d'Ilene, ID. Also numerous other venues for them.

This is spite. I hope the couple dies of cancer.

A "marriage" can be done completely in a civil manner with no religion involved.

Again, the backlash is going to come and it will be very, very ugly.

If they are ordained Ministers in a church that doesn't recognize same-sex marriages as part of its sacraments

That's basically ALL religions, isn't it?

The gay marriage mafia seems confused as to what "tolerance" and "applause" is. You deserve tolerance. As for applause...you can bite my ass on that one.; 4/27/15, 2:19 PM
Hagar said...: In China they have a Central Propaganda Department that is connected to every publication in the country by telephone (special landlines, so they can't be intercepted and recorded) and is in charge of telling every editor what he can and cannot publish.

Is there something like that in this country for the press agencies and the alphabet soup on TV?
I am beginning to wonder.; 4/27/15, 2:27 PM
Hagar said...: I watch the CBS Evening News as much to see what they will not talk about as what they do.; 4/27/15, 2:29 PM
theribbonguy said...: "I watch the CBS Evening News as much to see what they will not talk about as what they do."

Yup..I watch CBS to chronicle the "lies of omission", then I flip over to the PBS News Hour to catch the spin on events that CBS didn't even mention...then I weep for the country I love.

The key ingredient to an informed electorate would be information. Sadly, this requires a great deal more effort to acquire than watching the evening "news".; 4/27/15, 2:39 PM
jimbino said...: Damikesc says:

A "marriage" can be done completely in a civil manner with no religion involved.

A "marriage" can be done completely in a religious manner with no special tax, inheritance, SS benefit, hospital visitation or insurance privileges involved.

Civil marriage is subsidized by all singles. Religious marriage not so much. The time has come to abolish gummint involvement in marriage.; 4/27/15, 2:54 PM
Etienne said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 4/27/15, 3:03 PM
damikesc said...: Is there something like that in this country for the press agencies and the alphabet soup on TV?

The NY Times.

And, jimbino, you've become the Mick of the board now. Congrats. We know what you'll write about every time you appear and nobody will care.; 4/27/15, 4:10 PM
Skyler said...: Austin has a popular hipster restaurant called the Magnolia Cafe.; 4/27/15, 4:24 PM
Hagar said...: I read an interesting story today about MSNBC, CNN, etc. making money from being bundled with Fox out of all proportion to their actual viewership, just for the purpose of the cable carrier being "fair and balanced," whether in their own eyes or of the FCC's.; 4/27/15, 4:30 PM
Etienne said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 4/27/15, 4:42 PM
damikesc said...: Are riots and burning cities the Obama legacy? We've had an AWFUL lot of that under him.; 4/27/15, 4:43 PM
Anonymous said...: I am beginning to see why most societies are ruled by a strongman--king, chief, technocrat, that kind of person. Letting everyone vote leads to some pretty stupid decisions.; 4/27/15, 5:38 PM
Just asking questions (Jaq) said...: Amazon keeps suggesting, and I keep not buying, Steel Magnolias DVD.

Oh yeah, that is the one where Olympia Dukakis "earned" an Oscar for being the sister of the Democrat presidential candidate.; 4/27/15, 7:04 PM
Just asking questions (Jaq) said...: I would like to sincerely thank jimbino for not reproducing.; 4/27/15, 7:07 PM
Marc in Eugene said...: Can someone briefly explain to me what 'GamerGate' is? I may have to look online, tsk.; 4/27/15, 10:05 PM
Just asking questions (Jaq) said...: Can someone briefly explain to me what 'GamerGate' is? I may have to look online, tsk.

I don't really understand the genesis of it. But what it has become is a reaction of the gamer community against a collection of "liberal" harpies in the gamer press who push games based on politics rather than quality.

There is a similar thing going on in the science fiction awards area where the awards have been hi-jacked by 'liberals' who give the awards based on the politics, sex, and political value in the eyes of 'liberals' of the writer.

I am going to keep calling them 'liberals' until people who identify as 'liberal' realize what a joke that label is when applied to these kinds of things.; 4/28/15, 5:53 AM
Just asking questions (Jaq) said...: Gamergate is sort of like the reaction that should have happened when the Academy Awards gave the Oscar to Dukakis as a way of boosting her brother's candidacy.; 4/28/15, 6:31 AM