"Nowhere in the law does it explicitly state that schools are allowed to ask for students' passwords, but one section of it says that schools must implement a policy that includes a 'process to investigate whether a reported act of bullying is within the permissible scope of the district's or school's jurisdiction.'..."
So... an accusation of bullying unleashes the full bullying power of the state. Shameful.
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Liberal fascism. Good opportunity for Republicans to make inroads with the young.
Government workers who know best strike again!
Love the footer in the letter from the Elementary School:
Educating Everyone...takes Everyone
My instructions to my kids in this case would be very clear: Under no circumstances are you to give your passwords to anyone, ever. (Except to me). And if school administrators appealed to me, I'd ask: Do you have a warrant?
What kids in Illinois should do, obviously, is create duplicate accounts. One 'real' one, and one for bureaucrats who want to bully them. That's a good lesson to teach them.
This is a horrible, horrible idea. Typical of that wasteland that is Illinois. Is it any wonder people are fleeing?
This is totally ridiculous. Facebook allows you to block unwanted people or delete and spambox unwanted messages. Any respectable email or chat service will do the same. Hell PoF allows you to block creepers and stalkers as well. It's easier than ever to ignore bullying, and the physical kind (the really dangerous kind) happens at school or in the areas right around the school, not online.
Exactly, MadMan.
Students, do not comply.
If suspension follows, go to the ACLU and ask for their help.
It'll be fun watching lib vs. lib in this battle.
I'm curious what gives schools power to compel a student to violate their rights.
I imagine they aren't getting subpoenas for all of these.
The left will ultimately put itself in chains, and then wonder how it got there.
Students have privacy rights too, or should have.
A 100-character impossible-to-type password is always good.
When you use it you can copy/paste it from something on your computer, but they'll never get it right manually.
Unbalanced nested parentheses are always good to include.
For some students, the question would be which account? The one that the parents/aunts/uncles, etc. see or the one that only their peers see.
AA: an accusation of bullying unleashes the full bullying power of the state. Shameful.
Less shameful than:
it makes sense to support imposing paid childbirth-recovery leave on private employers
That is nasty. Not in my vocabulary of liberalism. It's funny, McCullough, that when some people are faced with a bad reality, they have to label it "liberal". We liberals hate the unlawful intrusion in to peoples private life as much as you "righties" do.
Vicki from Pasadena
So...if the student writes down a valid password, then goes home and changes their password...
Have they followed the rules?
Liberals are like moderate muslims.
Strangely quiet at the daily outrages.
The parent can just change the password and not tell the student what it is. Or any third party can keep the password in trust for the student or guardian.
School: "give us your password."
student: "Jason has it. I don't know it anymore. I call him if I need to key it in and he sends it to me via Snapchat and I don't save the images."
School: (contacts Jason) give us the password.
Jason (from an unknown and heavily masked foreign email account)Hmm. Does " Mister Principal is a libtard fascist thug" work?
School: No. It didn't work.
Jason. "Well you can fuck right on off, then."
Vicki: "We liberals hate the unlawful intrusion in to peoples private life as much as you "righties" do."
But of course. That's why you goddamned libtards are vibrant trying to make it "lawful," just like you did here.
And you bastards are constantly dreaming up new government agencies, bureaucracies, Nanny Staters and Czars to lawfully do just that, and new regulations to justify your overreaches.
This where the tyranny of liberalism comes from.
Scratch a liberal, you will find a fascist. Every time. And You can count on Vicki's vote.
then goes home and changes their password
Why wait 'til you get home?
But a good, nosey school administrator with nothing better to do than peruse student facebook accounts (and really -- do students use facebook anymore? The answer is no no no), will log on right away, I suspect. It's not like they have to spend time on student achievement or testing or anything like that!
The student should always say: I have to get my parents' permission, at home.
Privacy is a dying idea. As we consent to its erosions --each one below our threshold of resistance-- we become habituated to its ghostliness. Eventually it is vitiated and we will live fully in the State.
What's funny is the inversion of value. In order for me to bully you, all I need to do is claim victimhood.
See also this. Fernandez is always good, but here he is great: http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2015/01/22/the-part-of-yourself-you-used-to-own/#more-41590
"Always." I don't know where the Hell "vibrant" came from.
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Leigh Lewis, superintendent of the Triad district, told me that if a student refuses to cooperate, the district could presumably press criminal charges.
What would be the charge? Resisting the Democratic Party?
This is totally ridiculous. Facebook allows you to block unwanted people or delete and spambox unwanted messages. Any respectable email or chat service will do the same. Hell PoF allows you to block creepers and stalkers as well. It's easier than ever to ignore bullying, and the physical kind (the really dangerous kind) happens at school or in the areas right around the school, not online.
This.
come to think of it, does FaceBook have any limits, internal or external, for people under the age of 18?
Yet another reason to strip officials of qualified immunity starting with legislators. They take an oath to uphold the Constitution. You don't uphold it by violating it. Public officials need to held personally accountable to same extent as the average citizen if not more so.
If I were a parent in that situation I'd laugh in the teacher's face. So preposterous I'm not even going to feign respect.
...from my cold, dead keyboard.
This is so typical of the Democratic Mind (if mind is even applicable), is it not? They are ever ready to shred the Constitution to assuage some crybaby's itty-bitty hurt feelings. Althouse was dead on when she appended her "free speech" tag to this morsel of progressive lunacy (though I advise a revision, something along the lines of "it's free speech, you neo-fascist assclowns!") Time-tested common law already provides measures to deal with lies, so if X bullies Y with lies, Y files a civil action and X seeks a good lawyer. If X bullies Y with physical violence or threats of same, that's a genuine criminal matter of long standing. If X bullies Y with truths, then tough titty. Y needs to grow a thicker skin and keep in mind that no one comes of this alive. A society that seeks to protect Y's "hurt feelings" from a truth is a society with jackboots in its future. In the case of Illinois the jackboots are already stomping.
Illinois voters keep in mind these pols at next election:
Bill Status of HB4207 98th General Assembly
That is nasty. Not in my vocabulary of liberalism. It's funny, McCullough, that when some people are faced with a bad reality, they have to label it "liberal". We liberals hate the unlawful intrusion in to peoples private life as much as you "righties" do.
...except liberals are the ones pursuing this.
We liberals hate the unlawful intrusion in to peoples private life as much as you "righties" do.
Good for you, Vicki. However, I must point out that this is not an intrusion into one's private life (usually a euphemism for sex). This is an unconstitutional curtailment of one's public life, specifically the right to speak one's mind to other's in the public forum. (Why I'm I not surprised Vicki missed this obvious point?)
Even progressives are unconcern what we say to ourselves in complete privacy (except perhaps the progressives of North Korea). It's that pesky public forum that gets under their skin.
all your accounts are belong to us
We liberals hate the unlawful intrusion in to peoples private life as much as you "righties" do.
Vicki from Pasadena
The irony goes to eleven.
Nancy Reagan has a message for you Illinois school kids and their parents:
"Just say no."
Or,
The dog ate my password.
Yeah... if anyone except my non-existent wife asked for my passwords, the answer would be no.
It is funny how Vicki says this is nasty practice, yet the usual crowd still gangs up and attacks her for being a liberal lefty libtard. Even when she agrees with the groupthink the wolfpack still feels the need to draw blood.
That twisted type of surrealism can only occur on Althouse.
madisonfella said...
It is funny how Vicki says this is nasty practice, yet the usual crowd still gangs up and attacks her for being a liberal lefty libtard. Even when she agrees with the groupthink the wolfpack still feels the need to draw blood.
It's because she's lying.
Yes. Leftards always operate under the delusion that they aren't little mini-fascists. They need to be immediately called upon their rank hypocrisy.
Fen's Law is still in effect: The Left doesn't really believe in the things they lecture the rest of us about. These people in power in Illinois, running the school districts that made this happen, are libs.
Don't try to feed us the line that libs oppose this. This has libtard fascist stamped all over it. This is 100 percent the work of libtards, from soup to nuts.
In other words... stop trying to piss on our legs and tell us its raining, lib.
It is funny how Vicki says this is nasty practice, yet the usual crowd still gangs up and attacks her for being a liberal lefty libtard. Even when she agrees with the groupthink the wolfpack still feels the need to draw blood.
No, the condemnation is from her "We liberals hate the unlawful intrusion in to peoples private life as much as you "righties" do." line.
Given that is YOUR side that is doing it --- and you still vote for them --- no, I don't remotely believe you.
Conservatives are wise to stop giving you benefit of the doubt. You oppose this? Then you do something and stop voting for clowns who support this.
I have left my ballot unmarked for Congress more than a few times due to poor choices.
Whatever happened to "don't ever share your password with anyone"?
I positively delight in instructing my children to resist and refuse nonsense like this, and why.
Although there is no way around the mandatory random drug tests for all students participating in extracurriculars, starting in seventh grade. :(
Get a warrant.
Let me put this into words so every Illinois "educator" and "Education administrator" understands what I am about to say about Liberty and American Education:
1) It is not your job to protect, care for or have anything to do with children outside of school hours. Problems are for families and law enforcement.
2) Your "job" is to educate period. Not socialize, not indoctrinate, but teach.
3) Do your fucking job and leave everyone else alone.
Shit, America could be so so so so so so so so so much better if we had a better - read "NON-Liberal", and "NON-Fascist" - education system that emphasized teaching reading writing and math above all else. Like, i don't know, every ASIAN country that is kicking our ass in educated youngins.
Why would you need a password?
A. Wouldn't you just demand to be made an all-access friend or "watcher"?
B. The student can just bully on chat and then delete the chats.
There's nothing in this law that says that the school can ask a student for his password. Even if the section on implementing a bullying policy is interpreted to include a right to request a student's social media password, there is no language to the effect that the student has a corresponding duty to comply with that request.
So how do the schools know who has a Facebook account and who does not. Name duplication is inevitable with 1.23 billion subscribers.
If I had children at home, the house rule would be stay off of Facebook and no Facebook account. Teenagers being teenagers, they would have to have secret account and that means secret from me and other adults I know.
If asked by the school, I would likely provide an affidavit that there is no Facebook account.
So the rule is unenforceable and therefore it is invalid
Dsmaying, but not surprising. School district budgets have the money, and power follows money.
School district budgets often approach the combined City and County budgets here in Texas. School districts have their own police forces, sometimes as large or larger than the City force.
If you don't like what your legislators do with the money and power, then don't vote for them again.
Goes as well for School Boards, where folks eagerly vote teachers, their husbands, wives, etc. onto the Board and then complain that the District is run to benefit the teachers not for students (or even - gasp! - the taxpayers).
Forget it it, Althouse. It's Illinois.
There are many mommy bloggers, hashtag and petition activists, and anti-bullying activists in Illinois, especially in Chicago. They have quite a following, for some reason, and got people to push this nonsense.
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