A few inscrutable details in the L.A. Times:
“They were all underage, and fortunately we were able to assist in finding them,” said a senior FBI official, speaking to the Los Angeles Times on condition of anonymity because the investigation was ongoing. “We’re not sure yet who was influencing whom, or why. But they are all safe.”
When a sheriff's deputy on Monday went to their home to check on the girls, the deputy found them asleep in their bedroom.... “I asked them why they went to Germany, and they said, 'Family,' and would not elaborate on any other details about their trip,” the deputy wrote in the report.
More — seemingly —
here, at The Daily Beast:
The FBI had apparently decided that this was less a case of jihad than hooky. Agents nonetheless began to examine the girls’ cellphones and computers, seeking to determine whether the girls had been recruited online, as [Shannon Maureen] Conley had been. Conley’s father had been stunned to walk into his daughter’s room and find her Skyping with an ISIS warrior who used the opportunity to announce he intended to marry her....
[F]or some teens ISIS seems to symbolize power and purpose, a great drama promising deliverance from the humdrum. They appear to see not atrocities but adventure, not gore but glory.
AND: From Tablet ("A New Read on Jewish Life"):
"Why the Teenage Girls of Europe Are Joining ISIS/Because they want the same things that teenage boys want: a strong sense of meaning and purpose."
[F]or all the awesome social services and consumer goods it can offer, Europe has become incapable of endowing the lives of its citizens, Muslim or not, with meaning....
It is a striking fact that ISIS appeals not only to young men, but also young European women, many hundreds of whom have gone to Syria and Iraq to marry Islamic State fighters. Sure, some of them, like the 15-year-old French Jewish girl Nora el-Bathy, may have come to regret their decision. But that hardly alters the essential point: The girls sought out IS fighters because the West seems weak and unmanly and they pine for real men who are willing to kill and die for what they believe in.
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Little did they know that jihad was available in Ottawa. They didn't have to go to Turkey.
We need more Sudanese and Somali immigrants to join our melting pot and wage jihad.
Female future voters. Wonderful.
Coming after Nov 4 to a neighborhood near you.
I bet Obama thinks they are the future of America.
The problem is that ISIS keeps promising the young girls a pony. What young girl is going to refuse a pony?
Two things struck me. The Dad is *old* -- 68! -- and has teenagers in High School. He had $2000 (!!) at home that the kids could access.
I try to imagine my kids doing this at these girls' age. I fail. A just punishment would be their researching women's lives in ISIS and comparing that drudgery to their own middle class cocoon. Perhaps they should live as ISIS-like concubines for a month.
Failure to discern the difference between good and evil, personal desires and personal responsibility is a hallmark of today's permissiveness and irresponsible cultural decay. Welcome to the dark-side of the liberal/progressive ideology. Great job of parenting (sarc) and caving in to the me generation of so-called self-actualization based on narcissism.
According to the Beast: "Ali Farah and Assad Ibrahim have both embraced democracy and are registered Democrats."
Nope. They've embraced something obviously, but whether it's democracy is debatable.
Maybe the image of men fighting and winning for faith in a god is very attractive to females who have never seen such exciting lives in the post-Christian, metro-sexual, female ruled, fake nirvana they have been educated by.
Mr Zehaf-Bibeau (The Ottawa terrorist) was going to go to the Middle East to "study Arabic" when his passport got pulled.
The Ottawa terrorist's mother worked for the government on "refugees."
Who defines a refugee as somebody who gets involved in a war in their home country, experiences a setback, and goes to another country to hide so that he can fight another day.
It looks like Zehaf-Bibeau's father fought in Libya in 2011. On whose side? Who knows?
ISIS is forcing us to face some fundamental truths about power and the nature of "nation building."
Teenage girls fall for 'bad boys', news at 11
The first thing that came to mind was Manson's "Family".
If our culture refuses to produce heroic young men who believe in something greater than themselves and would fight for it, even to the sacrifice of death, then young women will find a culture that does.
Even if that culture would make them slaves.
What do women want? The young ones who are ready for child bearing want a man who is committed to do what ever it takes to provide for and protect her and the children. That usually means a man with a real faith in a religious tradition.
It does not mean a cradle to grave Government Bureau that says it alone can provide for and protect her and the children from men, especially those religious fanatics from the hateful Patriarchy.
Most girls are wired to want marriage and to be part of an intact family unit. The liberal policies of the West are killing the traditional family dream and it is only natural that some people will look elsewhere to achieve it.
Well, the progressives in this country have managed to pretty much destroy any connection to a Christian church. People are looking for something more meaningful than abortions and feminism. it's why so many are such fervent followers of the global warming crowd. It's why so many viewed Obama as a messiah. Both those examples have lost their luster, why wouldn't they cast about looking for something more, at least in their minds, fulfilling?
Chicks voted for Hitler, too.
Let's be honest, here: Almost all of these so-called "American" or "European" jihadi wannabes are AINOs (Americans In Name Only) or EINOS (Europeans In Name Only). They are actually foreign-born cuckoo's eggs brought to our nest. How can we be surprised that when they hatch, they grow up to be cuckoos (or in this case, Muslims)?
This type of seduction doesn't happen too often to teenage American boys.
See, burqas are useful!
Let 'em go.
Apparently the desire to become a sex slave is strong in some of these girls. I wonder if they'll ever realize how lucky they are to have been stopped?
What girl doesn't want to have a bad boy?
betamax3000 said...
Chicks voted for Hitler, too.
Interesting you should say that. Supposely Hitler didn't marry Eva Braun until the end because he thought being single made him more desirable to women in Germany.
Now, on a recent comment thread, someone posited that a politician did something to make him more appealing to women voters....
Given the way marijuana causes people to become psychotic we'll see a lot more of this from Colorado.
The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet...
When kids at our church want to throw themselves fully into The Cause bigger than themselves, they often work hard to become missionaries and go to work in hospitals, orphanages, or schools around the world. Some of them go overseas to start businesses in economically depressed areas to employ people and give them skills that they can transfer to other jobs.
Better to introduce kids to good causes before the wrong causes find them.
Sorry, but if these young people are attracted to ISIS, I say let them go. A masked man who slits the throat of a bound prisoner is not a searcher for meaning. He is a thug and a coward.
If we are not willing to work to bring back honorable people held captive by ISIS, I don't see why we should try to repatriate people asserting an adult right to sign up with ISIS. Let them live with the consequences of their own stupidity.
Reading the last two quotes in this post, I immediately thought of Mark Steyn. This is a theme he has been hammering for quite some time.
I know this is wrong but I think some of the ISIS guys are really kind of hot in their costumes and masks. I did a guy once who was Married and he would only blow me with a mask on-I found it really hot-also I could tell from his eyes and mouth that he was really hot.
kiss kiss
Some of these ISIS chicks will become baby makers. Some will acquire destructive skills that will be used when they return.
The world is divided between Dar al Islam and Dar al kufr (land of the infidel). The texts and life of Mohammed make clear which one is to give way.
Life for a young person in Europe has been getting worse for a long time.
You used to be able to drink in public at 14--no longer.
After having two beers, you used to be able to drive home--no longer.
If your parents had you baptized when you were young and innocent, you face church taxes or a fee to get the hell out.
There is little upward mobility: taxes and compulsory health insurance take the greater part of a young person's income and he spends hours working for the breeding, mis-education, health care, unemployment subsidies and retirement of others.
Emigration to Amerika used to be a great option, but, except for church taxes, Amerikan by SS, Medicare, Medicaid, EITC and Obamacare is gradually adopting the European socialist model. And Amerikans are so hung up on nudity, sex and not taking the usual 8-week annual vacation.
Scourge of a welfare state: everything is taken care of from cradle to grave, nothing to strive for, nothing to work for. Life is mundane and meaningless.
betamax3000 said...
The problem is that ISIS keeps promising the young girls a pony. What young girl is going to refuse a pony?
Obama promises Fluke free condoms, what woman is going to refuse free condoms?
The girls sought out IS fighters because the West seems weak and unmanly and they pine for real men who are willing to kill and die for what they believe in.
Are WE allowed to believe in anything anymore?
I think they need to understand what they are getting into. A clitordectomy should be explained to them.
When you make an organization out to be a dire threat to everything that Americans hold dear, of COURSE disgruntled people will start drifting towards them.
Add this to the list of reasons to stop pretending a bunch of half-wits on the other side of the planet are an existential threat to America.
This change all began when it was no longer correct to refer to America as a "melting pot" but instead we were to refer to it as a "salad."
I don't have any problem with it as long as they aren't allowed back.
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