October 11, 2014

"She is a normal, useless type of a girl. Nothing in her is special at all. She’s selling what the West will buy."

Not everyone loves the new Nobel laureate.

21 comments:

David Hampton said...

Sounds like the hype Obama should have received before he received the Nobel Peace Prize.

Mark said...

Yes, in a country of 200 million there are trolls and conspiracy theorists.

Does not mean we should pick up their stupid comments and broadcast them further.

Hagar said...

Pakistan is a made-up country of very un-like and mutually hostile ethnic and religious groups. It is going to take time for them to become a nation.

David Hampton said...

Mark; they probably learned from the U.S. where we do that as a matter of course. When America sneezes, the world catches cold as the saying goes. Welcome to the new world and media. Hope for more civility and prepare for less.

Roger Sweeny said...

The author of the linked piece obviously wants to "blame the victim." Not that there's anything wrong with that.

MadisonMan said...

I agree she is normal for Pakis...after all, she was shot in the head for daring to better herself. That says all you need to know about Pakistan and what she is up against and why she is deserving.

sinz52 said...

In 1979, another Pakistani, Abdus Salam, won the Nobel Prize in Physics for the electroweak theory. It unified the electromagnetic and weak nuclear forces at conditions of high temperature.

It was a great scientific achievement, and Abdus Salam was the first Muslim to win a Nobel Prize in science.

Most Pakistanis hated his guts.

Because he was a member of an Islamic sect that is not mainstream Pak Islam.

Ultimately, he had to flee Pakistan and ended up in Britain.


"The Holy Qur'an enjoins us to reflect on the verities of Allah's created laws of nature; however, that our generation has been privileged to glimpse a part of His design is a bounty and a grace for which I render thanks with a humble heart."
-- Abdus Salam

But that's not the kind of Islam that most Pakistanis believe in.

madAsHell said...

It was a great scientific achievement, and Abdus Salam was the first Muslim to win a Nobel Prize in science.

Most Pakistanis hated his guts.

Because he was a member of an Islamic sect that is not mainstream Pak Islam.

Ultimately, he had to flee Pakistan and ended up in Britain.


Heinlein's definition of bad luck.

Achilles said...

I am sure progressives everywhere will get behind this girl and fight for women and girls all around world who live under this type of oppression. They will condemn radical islam and work to see it eliminated. The tea party fundamentalists and republicans are waging a war on women! They won't pay for our abortions and birth control!...

Sorry got confused.

Mark said...

Really, sinz? There is a large Sufi contingent in Pakistan, shrines to sufi saints all over the countryside.

Trying to act like the hill tribes are the majority of Pakistan glosses over much of the country, acts like Multan, Sindh, or half of Punjab doesn't exist.

pm317 said...

From the linked article and the author gets it right. Such a refreshing feeling when the reporter actually knows the history:
Politicians, media figures, and especially the army all ignore the cancer eating away at Pakistan since before the Islamist dictator Ziaul Haq took power in 1977. His policies helped engender the rise of an intolerant and severe nationalism that conflates piety with patriotism. It’s an ugly ideology that excludes and marks others as outsiders and, thus, enemies.

Pakistan when it was partitioned from India in 1948, had secular leaders (see Jinnah). Then came Zia ul Haq in the late 70s to muck it all up -- Kashmir became an issue and he went around saying he said death by 1000 cuts to India. Bangladesh (which was East Pakistan) broke away (because they were discriminated against by the larger west Pakistan) with the help of India. Saudis exploited the situation with their money to corrupt the nation's elite and now you have a minority of the very rich and powerful including the military ruling over a majority of ignorant and religious peasants. Saudis should be barred from setting up madrasas and mosques outside of their own country. Where their influence does not work, Muslims by and large have led peaceful lives in a mixed society (think India).

Rusty said...

And yet she has done so much more to earn hers than our president did to earn his.

Rusty said...

Hagar said...
Pakistan is a made-up country of very un-like and mutually hostile ethnic and religious groups. It is going to take time for them to become a nation.


No. I'm pretty sure it appears on maps and isn't made up at all. Not like my favorite made up country Scandibigboobistan.
I want to vacation there some day.

Kelly said...

This CIA obsession isn't just a Pakistani problem. Just about every comment section I look at, from the Daily Mail to The Stars And Stripes, finds that CIA has hand in everything that goes on in the world.

Hagar said...

The peoples of "Scandibigboobistan" have had a very similar history for the last 1500 years, or so, speak dialects of the same language, and profess to vey similar versions of Lutheran Protestantism, yet have considered themselves separate nations as long as the notion of nationhood has existed, and have no intention joining together.

Now consider Pakistan, where English is an official language because it is the only one that everyone understand; the major religions are Moslem - Sunni and Shia with variations, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikh, Christianity - Catholic and Protestant with variations, and more; and the ethnic backgrounds are equally varied, including, Scots, Mongols, and Bengali, making for a very spicy stew.

pm317 said...

Pakistan has less than 2% of Hindus and about 35000 Buddhists (a/c wiki).. Hindus, Christians and Buddhists are not having any picnic there. It is not a mixed society tolerant of other religions by any means. Pakistanis drove all Hindu pundits away from Kashmir so they could argue that it is predominantly Muslim.

Hagar said...

2% of 200 million is 4 million - more than enough to start a fair-sized riot, and certainly enough to have the attention of their co-religionists in India - also a "nuclear state."

pm317 said...

LOL.. Hindus (and not all 4 million are in one place) rioting in Pakistan?! when everyone else there is carrying guns and ready to behead you.. are you this ignorant?

Rusty said...

Hey! hagar!
It's my made up country. you want a bigbboobistan? make up your own.

No visa for you!

The Godfather said...

"Why isn’t she universally praised?"

Big whoop over nothing. If God Himself descended to Earth on a cloud, accompanied by choirs of angels and all the Saints, there would be those didn't praise Him.

traditionalguy said...

As Professor Higgins used to whine, " Why can't a woman be more like a man?"

To a Muslim, a woman is either like a man or is normal and worthless. The god of Muslims especially hates women who are like women.