This follows up on something discussed on this blog a week ago in
"John Doe prosecutor John Chisholm objects to what Stuart Taylor Jr. said about his anti-Walker vendetta" and
"Did Stuart Taylor Jr. misidentify his unnamed source for his article impugning the motives of the John Doe prosecutor?" In that second post, I'd said:
It's not just that the source (as revealed by [Milwaukee Journal Sentinel's Daniel] Bice) seems pretty untrustworthy. What bothers me most here is that Taylor would pass him off as a "longtime Chisholm subordinate" and "former staff prosecutor in Chisholm’s office" if he was a short-time, unpaid, paper-shuffler. Taylor needs to weigh in.
Stuart Taylor now weighs in with
"Decorated Wis. cop says he paid dearly for blowing whistle on DA’s crusade against Gov. Walker":
The district attorney’s staff launched a Nixon-style “mole hunt” to find [my] anonymous source, a Journal Sentinel columnist said, and was annoyed that the description of the confidential source wasn’t precise enough to identify him. The staff developed a list of roughly a dozen suspects, the columnist said. The Journal Sentinel never reported this secret search....
Lutz... says he worked with Chisholm as a police officer and in the district attorney’s office, first as a law school intern in 2010 and as a special prosecutor in 2011 – a period of more than a year, not the five-and-a-half months reported by Bice....
Most journalists’ first instinct is to protect the identity of whistleblowers against powerful people likely to retaliate against them. Not columnist Bice or the Journal Sentinel. They have devoted their energy to exposing Lutz’s identity, subjecting him to attacks, and seeking to discredit him....
When Bice identified Lutz in the Journal Sentinel on Sept. 12, he smeared him for an alleged “troubled past” and accused him of making a “death threat.” The “troubled past” involved a police shooting after which Lutz was exonerated. That review, the Journal Sentinel editorialized at the time, “should be the end of the matter.” The “death threat” allegation is completely false, Lutz says, contrary to Bice’s claim that Lutz had not disputed it.
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Gossip and politics disguised as news.
Weak sauce.
Didn't AMI's President verify to the Journal Sentinel last Friday the source?
Shouldn't Stuart Taylor at least give a little dressing down to the person who commissioned the article for divulging the source, or is that all Dan Bice's fault for asking him for a comment?
Stuart Taylor got hoodwinked, this is his attempt to step out of the doggie doo he sat in last week.
See, I assume that everyone is a lunatic bent on destroying my life.
So I'm never surprised or disappointed by things like this. People are assholes. Dangerous assholes, spewing disease and hate.
So I'd have never stuck my neck out like Lutz in the first place. Whistleblowers are suckers -- what do they expect will happen when they take on the powerful? Accolades, protection, and rewards? Dumbasses.
Many people believe they live under the rule of law and that power is constrained by law. These people apparently can't read.
That was well written by Taylor. The point was that the decorated police investigator, who retired and went to law school on a pension for a service related injury, can only dare to speak because of his pension. Without that he would be ruined by the influence peddling thugs that are the heart of corruption in liberal Wisconsin.
Free speech sometimes costs all you have. That is true when
the political propaganda writer Bice at the Sentinel is a weaponized liar.
What that shows me is how much bold courage Scott walker has in his soul.
Gee it's almost as if the opinions about this issue are determined by who you want to be governor. Nothing like working from the answer backwards analyses.
DS - If we follow your advice, no one will have the balls to do the right thing. Think of the consequences: every crooked politician with an agenda would be able to get away with anything.
Thank God for courageous people like Lutz. Some people have courage and conviction.
SteveR -- now you're starting to get it! There's only power. If you have it, you can only keep it by bludgeoning people with it. If you don't have it, then you should have the sense to keep your head down or it'll get blown the fuck off.
Once again, we see that so-called "journalists" are in actuality merely Party cadres, acting solely on behalf of the Lefty Party. observe the JS stooges in action.
Callahan -- there will always be idiots to take on power. Statistically, some tiny number of them will succeed, and they will be heroes. They're welcome to it.
Our species, like most, evolved to ensure that large numbers of individuals lack a self-preservation instinct. I'm not worried that everyone will suddenly wise up and recognize that power means what it always meant -- the boot and the fist.
Power, in this case, belonged to a group of people we call the "left" (especially, but not exclusively, the public school teacher unions). Walker took a lot of that power away. The predictable struggle is now happening, with foot soldiers like Lutz getting mowed down like blades of grass.
None of this is remarkable in the least. What's remarkable is that some people think that putting certain labels, like "left" or "right", on the power players changes anything.
Every once in a while, we'll see the face-smashing displayed in a particularly graphic way, like a whistleblower getting smeared all over the papers, or forced to flee to a foreign country to avoid a prison term. Or, we'll see something like Ferguson, where the power players are forced to literally smash faces rather than simply destroy lives.
And the reaction is always surprise! Outrage! People with power smash faces! Yes, that's what they always do. Power is a boot stamping on a human face forever.
Democratic operatives in the press protecting Democratic operatives in the DA's office.
Nothing to see here you lookie-loos. Move along.
Whatever happened to the press afflicting the powerful? Nowadays, they do all they can, including lying and misleading their readers, to keep the Dems in office.
Isn't it interesting how little protection IGs and whistle blowers get from certain political parties?
I'm surprised you haven't covered the burke plagiarism scandal yet.
"I'm surprised you haven't covered the burke plagiarism scandal yet."
Next post.
Bice will stand by his story and that will be the end of it. The original article work has been muted by Bice's work. Whatever happens now will have little impact.
At least the people in WI can now see what goes on in TX. Partisan DA goes after governor for nothing.
@ traditionalguy
Great post. You nailed it.
Bice is a partisan hack with little regard for truth or the lives of others. Every now and then he gives a "head fake" to create the illusion of objectivity.
I heard Taylor give an interview yesterday. He said he wasn't sure, but believed that the fact that Chisholm's wife was a steward for the teacher's union had not been reported before his article. I guess this was another fact Bice thought was too complicated for his readers to understand.
Since the JS does notbelieve in shielding sources, will they now tell us who was leaking info to them from the John Doe?
The comparison of the Democrats in Wisconsin to the Democrats in Austin Texas seems pretty good. In California, an excellent candidate for governor was smeared because a domestic worker who had falsified her ID was used to attack her by Gloria Allred, an experienced hack.
Instead, we got Jerry Brown, the teachers' union pet, and his bullet train to Merced.
Bice will get a Pulitzer for his reporting on this.
You've got a mean streak, MM.
Journal-Sentinel editor: "Hey, why don't we assign the Susan Happ story (re: the land contract and sexual assault charges against Daniel J. Reynolds to Dan Bice?"
I know newspapers are having difficulty remaining solvent, but what kind of editorial judgement is that? Do the editors not realize that many readers think (D) Bice is shaping his stories around his personal politics?
Why would the Paper's editors not have had the good sense to assign the story to someone else?
So was there a poster of the Blue Fist above the DA's desk or not?
THAT is the real issue. Everything else is just a distraction.
Question?
Is AA still a sceptic of Stuart Taylor's work? Is someone that she read over the years still a worse hack than Dan Bice that she was sooooo willing to belive after 1 article?
Is this police officer still a crazy source or is he someone who was smeared by a political hack and a guy you want to stand by on his reporting?
My respect for Lutz has grown and my disregard for Chisholm and his wife has grown. Sounds like her brother was in need and it took extraordinary action to get them to show any concern for her brother. Great family support there Chisholm's! Glad you are not my family.
Daniel Bice the reporter is the slimy character. Ann should rethink her comment on who's untrustworthy.
Mostly Taylor's response satisfies me.
But I wouldn't have described Lutz as a "longtime Chisholm subordinate." Lutz worked with/under the DA for "over a year" in 2010-11. To me, "longtime" means several years. Five? At least three. If I'm married for "over a year" and then divorce, that wasn't a "longtime" spousal relationship.
Yes, I also read the part of Taylor's new article arguing that the above issue doesn't matter very much, and that is probably so. I still feel like Taylor was sorta padding his witness's resume with that adjective.
I like how you're soooooo concerned about all this.
400 years of injustice against blacks but it's THIS that has you fired up - incredible.
It's no wonder that, racially, this country gets nowhere fast,....
@ Crack Emcee
400 years of injustice against blacks but it's THIS that has you fired up - incredible.
Where do you find the energy to be perpetually offended and continuously victimized? It must be exhausting.
Being white, I guess it is something I'll never understand.
Crack: "It's no wonder that, racially, this country gets nowhere fast,...."
If only we were more like this country: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/18/us-health-ebbola-guinea-idUSKBN0HD2JE20140918
Well, we can't all share the insight and wisdom of the sun people.
In any event, it's nice to see that Taylor got around to providing more context pertaining to his source while cracks folks were slicing up aid workers.
400 years of injustice equals nothing less than 400 years matters.
I'm actually sympathetic to that if that is one's world view. Not mine though. So if this is your world view have at it. It seems to be the only tool you have. And It works only if it produces guilt in your readers.
But just for comparison, the Serbs believe that they have suffered 600+ years of injustice. By that standard 400 years is nothing. Should we not wait until they are satisfied until we address your 400 year history.
Obviously, I don't believe this, but offer it only to wish you'd grow up in your arguments. Historical reasons for action are the weakest as they can never be satisfied. I repeat. They can never be satisfied. Unless you change history itself, the underlying historical reason will always remain regardless of remedy - regardless of remedy.
Where are the routers?
One Note Crack....
MLK Jr would be ashamed of you.
madisonfella said...
So was there a poster of the Blue Fist above the DA's desk or not?
They only put Blue Fist posters over secret routers.
400 years ago I was an Irishman being starved by the British.
I got over it.
eddie willers: "400 years ago I was an Irishman being starved by the British.
I got over it."
And you look fabulous!
They only put Blue Fist posters over secret routers
You've been going on and on for months now about how there were never any private routers in Walker's government office and that the whole thing was made up out of thin air.
So with that in mind, is this your way of saying there were no Blue Fist posters above the desk of the DA and that whole thing was entirely made up?
Whistleblowers now must be kept confidential not only to protect them from retaliation by the subjects of the exposé, but from retaliation by the mediaswine politically aligned with the subjects.
Democrats rule!
Bobber Fleck,
"Where do you find the energy to be perpetually offended and continuously victimized?"
I live here, amongst whites, and they're racist.
That's been most blacks motivating factor,...
Drago said...
Crack: "It's no wonder that, racially, this country gets nowhere fast,...."
If only we were more like this country: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/18/us-health-ebbola-guinea-idUSKBN0HD2JE20140918
And - as usual - there's no whites in the history of the place.
According to whites.
You really should try doing some research before you post nonsense,...
Alex,
"MLK Jr would be ashamed of you."
Spoken like someone who thinks King only made one line about "character" - which can only be directed at blacks and not whites with a 400 year history of mass murder they actively ignore. Face it:
You racists know NOTHING about King's life or message,...
eddie willers,
"400 years ago I was an Irishman being starved by the British.
I got over it."
Look, if you're a ho, be a ho - blacks aren't. Our message to the Irish:
Sue or shut-the-fuck-up.
Expecting blacks to act like submissive potato eaters is a non-starter,...
Included in Taylor's report today: "When Lutz went into private practice, Chisholm wrote a memo to him on July 27, 2011, that said his service 'has been exemplary," that his "dedication and hard work … have proved to be invaluable," and that "I am extremely grateful for the service you provided.’
"In a previous letter of recommendation from November 2007, Chisholm wrote that Lutz had been 'one of the best investigators in the Milwaukee police department’ and had 'removed some of the most dangerous offenders from the streets of Milwaukee’ while combining 'a remarkable memory with unceasing hard work and courage.’"
In addition, Lutz was partnered as a police officer and was good friends with Chisholm's wife's brother. Chisholm knew him well.
@ Crack Emcee
Why do you continue to post messages to us white guys when you appear to believe we are incapable of understanding the black man's plight?
I'll confess that I now feel sorry for you, but not for the reasons you'd wish.
OMG Another Crack thread ! Bye.
Alex wrote: MLK Jr would be ashamed of [Crack.]
Sigmund Freud would find him interesting.
"Sigmund Freud would find him interesting."
I concur. I think lots of Crack's mental issues stem from his relationship with his mother.
You know, the one he told us was a notorious whore.
Methinks my friend Crack has decided to educate us. And the best educational method is 90% repetition.
The only way to succeed at Crack's work will be for good black skinned men ( they are the ones being targeted for some reason) to spend social time with good white/pink skinned cousins.
It works in military and in sports. Really it does work. That may be because a discipline hierarchy commits the group to a common goal of defeating foes other than black skinned men.
OK, I've gone back to the previous posts about this kerfuffle. I believe that Prof. Althouse was entirely correct to raise concerns about Taylor's story, based on what Bice said about Taylor's source. But Taylor's most recent article, now that the source's cover has been blown, shows (assuming we believe the facts presented) that Lutz was certainly in a position to observe those events and statements for which he was the purported source. It's unfortunate that Lutz's position wasn't described accurately in the original article, but the story holds up if you believe Lutz, whether or not you think Taylor was sloppy in his original article.
We have, then, reason to suspect that a law enforcement official is using his powers to advance a political agenda, that is, to punish a Governor of whose policies the official disapproves, but which are not illegal. We also have evidence of members of the Third Estate enthusiastically jumping into a hot political dispute to aid one side and harm the other. I don't think anyone who's intelligent enough to read this blog (or just read, period) is likely to be surprised by any of this, but it's interesting.
madisonfella: "You've been going on and on for months now about how there were never any private routers in Walker's government office and that the whole thing was made up out of thin air."
LOL
"secret routers" (not "private routers") has been garages calling card.
As you well know.
The Godfather: "OK, I've gone back to the previous posts about this kerfuffle. I believe that Prof. Althouse was entirely correct to raise concerns about Taylor's story, based on what Bice said about Taylor's source. But Taylor's most recent article, now that the source's cover has been blown, shows (assuming we believe the facts presented) that Lutz was certainly in a position to observe those events and statements for which he was the purported source."
Yep.
So naturally it's time for massive distraction and "squirrel" sightings by madisonfella.
Blogger The Crack Emcee said...
Expecting blacks to act like submissive potato eaters is a non-starter,...
9/19/14, 7:45 PM
YAAAAWWWNNNN
Crack drops a racial slur.
Like anyone really cares.
13 months is short term?
If another Deep Throat tried to drop a dime on Obama, the Washington Post would have a headline story about how Mark Felt was a disgruntled employee, upset about beings passed over for promotion. There would be follow up stories about the guys he bullied in high school......Ever wonder why most of the whistle blowers serve a leftist agenda. Ponder the fate of Linda Tripp, Elia Kazan, and now this poor soul. That's the answer.
This whole story reeks of lawless decadence.
"Mark said...
Weak sauce.
Didn't AMI's President verify to the Journal Sentinel last Friday the source?
Shouldn't Stuart Taylor at least give a little dressing down to the person who commissioned the article for divulging the source, or is that all Dan Bice's fault for asking him for a comment?
Stuart Taylor got hoodwinked, this is his attempt to step out of the doggie doo he sat in last week."
What does this have to do with anything? You are painfully dumb.
What's weak sauce is Bice's story...it's hard to tell who is a bigger slime ball, him, or that POS John Chisholm.
Well, surprise! Another crooked political machine practicing liberal fascism in the DA's office, and its loyal propagandabiro at the Journal-Sentinal. Who'da thunk?
I think, tar and feathers for Bice, for starters.
---Journal-Sentinel editor: "Hey, why don't we assign the Susan Happ story (re: the land contract and sexual assault charges against Daniel J. Reynolds to Dan Bice?"---
Oh, I can hear Bice now telling us that that is too complicated a story for him to get into. I wonder if the Democrats send him checks in the mail or have direct deposit?
Chisolm is outed by a whistle blower abusing his office for ideological and partisan gain.
Chisolm starts a witch hunt and enlists accomplices in the media to find the traitor in their midst.
The traitor is blacklisted and shunned for blowing the whistle on lawless abuse of authority. Chisolm proceeds to further abuse his authority to punish a retired police officer with Bice's help smearing him in the press and harassing his family.
People vote for this. I am not questioning your patriotism. I am saying you are fascists. Fascists that are enemies of freedom and justice. You don't believe in anything except your own power. You celebrated the exact same thing when people leaked out of the Bush administration. You punish people that leak out of Chisolm's office.
Anyone who supports this is disgusting. But you people prove that on a daily basis. You are also cowards that hide in mobs. There will come a time when none of us can hide and we face each other. I look forward to it.
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