And I love that it uses the roof for an airport and landing strip on the top level, so the 50,000 residents — instead of having a place to experience sunlight and sky — can feel and hear jets landing and taking off.
The benefits of ocean occupation would involve brand new schools, hospitals, businesses, parks, promenades, landscaping, public art and saltwater aquariums.What's the law enforcement? Will that be experimental too?
"This will be a very heavily capitalised project and the global economy in the last few years hasn't been too inviting for unproven progressive projects like ours. Happily, though it has experienced a hiatus, the Freedom Ship now looks as if it is a live project again. In the last six months we're getting more interest in the project and we are hopeful we will raise the $1 billion to begin construction."Looks as if... as if...
It looks as if this is a project for
I know. I shouldn't give these clowns attention. But I just hate cruises.
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I like it, nonsensical boyish fantasy or not. A possibly nice way to spend a few years in retirement -- putzing around the world (in warm weather) without leaving home.
I don't think the rooftop airport needs two parallel runways though. One should be enough to serve 50K people.
Hate cruises.
I was on a helicopter carrier in the Navy, and my berthing compartment was just below the flight deck. I found the comings and goings of helicopters to be soothing. The rare Harrier jet takeoff we had was exciting. And you got used to the sound of tie-down chains being dragged across the deck. It's the people noise in your own compartment that's annoying.
Mark Twain said something like...
An ocean voyage has all the charm of prison and with the possibility of drowning.
I remember the last cruise I was on. Mid-November in the North Atlantic, with about 1,500 of my closest friends from the First Marine Division.
"An ocean voyage has all the charm of prison and with the possibility of drowning."
I loved the ocean and I loved the ship I was on. The only thing I hated about the Navy was the Navy.
All they need to do is establish an independent nation with a constitution. Then one could become a citizen and escape Amerikan long-arm income tax and Obamacare obligations.
If they ban kids, cats and dogs and stay out of reach of cellphone towers, lots of folks would want to immigrate, I imagine.
How is it cost-effectively resupplied if it cannot enter any port? How many tons of food per day are needed to support 50,000 people plus 30,000 visitors (10,000 expected on average to spend the night) and 20,000 crew? How will waste be disposed without polluting the surrounding ocean?
How much power will it need to counteract wind energy, much less move forward? Since it can't use solar power (the top of the ship is tied up in airstrip) I guess they're planning nuclear energy? Otherwise they'd need a captive fleet of supertankers to keep them in fuel.
Will it be able to move fast enough to get out of the way of a hurricane?
I guess that's the engineer in me, worrying about silly little things like that.
Big Mike -
My first thought was "where will all the poo go?"
Big Mike asked the question I was thinking: How is sewage dealt with?
They Will Probably Require Their Own Jail and Prison System. Parole on the Lido Deck.
Sexually Transmitted Diseases Will Spread Like Wildfire. It Will Be One Big Floating Gonorrhea Gondola.
Good luck insuring it.
What could possibly go wrong?
If there's one thing the ocean does well, it's making poo disappear.
And then there's all the jet fuel needed to refuel those that land on it.
That hate-cruises story is just too long. I've been on three. The first one we had a Night At The Opera cabin, and everything we'd heard about the food was TRUE! The last two were better.
Three stops in Africa?
"But I just stay on the ship, so I have a really small carbon footprint."
(the other kev)
Somali pirates will love it. So many rich hostages in one place
The engineer doesn't get it that the very deep draft that keeps it from most ports is what helps is resist wind force.
Those who worry about shit don't get that there are such things as composting toilets and Indians who cook with the stuff.
Those who worry about jet fuel haven't seen an aircraft-tanker or a ship-to-shore pipeline.
With all the offshore money they attract from me and others escaping from Amerikan taxes and Obamacare, they should be able to afford to buy California, especially when it's in bankruptcy.
Skip this and go straight to a luxury space station, or maybe Moon base. Probably not much price difference, and you'd really get something for your money. Even Althouse might sign on. I'm sure Meade would want to.
"I'm sure Meade would want to."
What is this belief based on?
I think Meade's preference would be a very small house or a well-fitted Sprinter.
The artist who drew the "Freedom Ship" has obviously NEVER been anywhere near the ocean during a storm. It's about as authentic as a Jetson's cartoon.
The basic CONCEPT is OK; a floating city going around the world, but...
What powers it? Nuclear? Would almost NEED to be. Certainly not going to be "alternative energy".
What sort of "economy" does it have? Presumably you can work by telecommuting, which makes sense, but if when telecommuting gets that good, then tropical islands and mountain peaks will become even more popular and expensive than they are now.
Who cleans those windows? They'll be salt-crusted within a couple of days, or after the first storm.
Speaking of storms; WOW, can you say "Sail area"? Even turning into the wind (which it would do anyway, from the shape) that thing has enough sail are to push it backwards through the ocean.
Ann, I think you're worried needlessly about flight-deck noise; the wind whistling around those stanchions will drown out the engine noise. And the depicted planes are all pretty small; turbo-prop twin engines, by the look. They'd do better with helicopters or an Osprey variant.
Water World. I like it.
Althouse asks what my basis is for thinking Meade would like to try out a luxury space station or Moon base.
None whatsoever. But it's a cool idea, and I think both Althouse and Meade are cool, so . . . .
I recognize that Althouse says she doesn't like travel, but one of the great things about the space station or Moon base is that you only need to travel once -- then you stay at home and watch the world pass by.
These ideas have been kicked around for a while. Hopefully one of them will eventually become reality.
Great idea, until someone shows up with guns and takes everything. Real nation states are not very understanding about libertarian nonsense. Sovereignty is about force.
If you have a floating sovereign city that means you have to provide your own security. If you aren't sovereign, then there's no point in building a floating city in the first place. Just build it on land and pay taxes.
If you aren't under a national flag, no navy is going to bother saving you. Nor should they. You want independence? TANSTAAFL.
If you don't believe me, this has actually happened before.
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