“Do not be fooled,” Colonel Mulligan said. “He is not giving his life. We are taking his life. This is not his gift to God. This is his debt to society.”
August 28, 2013
The jury grants Nidal Malik Hasan's request for martyrdom.
Or: The jury agrees with the prosecutor's argument that to give Hasan the death penalty would not be to make him a martyr.
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He should be sentenced to a lifetime making shoes which will then be thrown at him.
Where's your prophet, now?
It is too bad that we have given up the constitutional (In 1789)punishment of no-drop or short-drop hanging.
Mr. Hasan should have been charged with TREASON.
I've never bought the "but we'll make him a martyr and he'll inspire MILLIONS MORE" argument against killing our enemies.
They made Hitler a martyr. They did not make Stalin, Mao, or Castro into martyrs. Which ideology lasted longer?
Jesus was a martyr, but Muhammad and Buddha were not. All three of these faiths are doing roughly equally well.
For every martyr who inspired millions to take up his cause (how many have there been? four?) there are thousands of others, forgotten along with their causes, bones mingled with those of their last followers.
Good. His virgins await him.
"For every martyr who inspired millions to take up his cause (how many have there been? four?)"
Did you include Elvis and Bob Marley?
Fine lets make him a martyr. I don't care and the families of the victims don't care as long as he is dead. As it is he won't be executed in all likelihood before the Obama second term ends.
Do the British still place the bodies of dead Islamic terrorists in body bags made of pigskin?
It's not his life to give...he forfeited when the trigger was pulled. The shot that paralyzed should have been fatal in a just world.
Unless they're going to have him blown from guns, he should be allowed to live out a long miserable life in solitude, denied his 72 white grapes.
JR, has anyone been attacked and injured by Elvis or Marley fans?
The liberal meme that "you can't kill Muslim enemy because unlike any other enemy, you only create 10, 100, 100 million rising for each martyr you cause" has to be one of the goddamnest most ignorant stupid notions liberals have ever swallowed.
My view is that since "swift and sure" has been replaced with Talmudic justice - endless debate, appeal, due process solely to enrich and support the arguers who have no job or contribution to society other than to argue - you make the best of a bad situation.
(Until America declines enough that the Constitution has to be fixed and the whole rotten DC, tax code, and legal system overhauled.)
What you do is make traitors Manning and Nidal Hasan cellmates. Both are now privates by rank. Manning will be left with the confrontation that America thinks he is little better than a mass-murdering Muslim who also betrayed his oath and country. He is stuck with the only hairy bear in Leavenworth without working genitalia since he was shot and paralyzed. And Manning would be ordered to wet nurse him...change his diapers...for years.
Nidal Hasan gets to bunk with an Abomination in the Eyes of Allah and know that every Muslim knowing of him believes he sleeps with a homo and will burn in heall.
He committed murder without cause or due process. His crimes against the individual and society are undeniable. He will enjoy the fate he dealt his victims.
As for a martyr status... So what? Should we cower in fear and deny our dignity or the dignity of his victims?
Executing him serves no purpose and just plays into the whole "workplace violence" bullshit. Like he's just some batshit office shooter. Put him in some Supermax solitary rat cage with no privleges and forget about him. No martyrdom, just suffering.
With rare exceptions a just punishment must be implemented or lest it become doubly unjust. This is not one of the exceptions. We will see.
I doubt he will ever be executed.
Don't overthink this; kill him. Swiftly.
Keeping anybody alive on chicken nuggets and instant mashed potatoes is cruel and inhuman punishment. Hasan got a merciful judgement.
At this point, as with Manning, I'm more interested in the mismanagement within the Army. Security loses to PC, courage loses to bureaucratic timidity. There's no way either one of them should have been where they were and/or able to do what they did. The only people happy today are a few lawyers who will make money out of this.
Obama doesn't have balls enough to approve the execution.
Timothy McVeigh was dispatched pretty quickly.
What's surprising is that it seems to be a surprise that a mass murderer has been sentenced to death. Aside from torture fantasies, what else could we possibly do with this guy?
what is amazing is that he was emailing a radical Imam asking whether it was ok to kill his fellow soldiers.
Let me point out the obvious: This man is a commissioned officer in the United States army, with a security clearance, asking a terrorist leader if it's okay to murder civilians, seeking his wisdom on slaughter.
And the FBI, and the Pentagon, say Meh.
They're ignoring this type of thing.
And yet we need the NSA spying on everyday citizens?-Ace
Meanwhile, our president is about to start another war without congressional approval, so that he cannot be mocked. And no one is calling him on it. W.T.F?
It's time for him to get ready for his French maid's outfit and ever larger pineapples...Little Nicky: Hitler gets a pineapple shoved up...
Why all the histrionics about putting down a mad dog? It's not like he's Old Yeller or something. Just do it, already.
Tim McVeigh refused all appeals, so his execution was pretty swift.
A military court has to approve the sentence, he could still get life in prison.
Now all his victims need to get the Purple Hearts they deserve.
The liberal meme that "you can't kill Muslim enemy because unlike any other enemy, you only create 10, 100, 100 million rising for each martyr you cause"
Well, crap, Cedarford of all people gets an entry in the "Dictionary of Received Wisdom" before I do.
No do like the Nuremburg Nazi trials and after hanging him cremate his body and dump the ashes into the sewer.
Add some pig fat to the roast so no Martyrdom for him (nor virgins.)
by the way, UCMJ 71 is pretty clear that the commander in chief has to sign the order to execute. Hasan will live for a long time in Leavenworth I guess.
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