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May 13, 2013

At the Catkin Café...

... you can hang out all afternoon.

54 comments:

Cody Jarrett said...: Did President Shit For Brains actually say "there's no there there" referring to the multiple drafts of the Benghazi cover up?

There's no there there.

He also said again that it was the work of extremists.; 5/13/13, 12:23 PM
Dante said...: In another thread Bagoh was talking about how women have done things to damage the nation as opposed to men. I assume he means by who they vote for.

However, I think men have done some pretty damaging things, such as:

The housing crisis
Illegal Immigration (which is going to destroy CA and its welfare state)

And as an old surrogate Dad used to tell me: "Women's lib was a man's idea."; 5/13/13, 12:24 PM
Elliott A said...: Are all the spring blooms going to freeze in the great white north?; 5/13/13, 12:24 PM
Elliott A said...: Are all the spring blooms going to freeze in the great white north?; 5/13/13, 12:24 PM
Robert Cook said...: Sainted Old Codger accessory to grotesque campaign of mass murder; 5/13/13, 12:30 PM
Cody Jarrett said...: Dante, I think the housing crisis gets even blame, and I wonder how much of the immigration deal is caused by 'female' energy (actual women or the new castrati), who just feel sorry for everyone and want to help everyone with no idea how to implement anything?

I'm not saying women shouldn't have the vote, but when you look at the numbers and see the percentage of women who voted for Obama, it's hard to wonder what's going on.; 5/13/13, 12:46 PM
Cody Jarrett said...: LOL @ Cookie.

Go to google and in the search bar type "grasping at straws".; 5/13/13, 12:48 PM
Chip S. said...: Is that a parody site, RC?; 5/13/13, 12:59 PM
Dante said...: CEO:

I'm not saying women shouldn't have the vote, but when you look at the numbers and see the percentage of women who voted for Obama, it's hard to wonder what's going on.

I think women primarily want a very big safety net to make certain their offspring will be taken care of no matter what.

Illegals as an issue for women? I was thinking illegals as a reason for corporations (doesn't the US chamber of commerce support amnesty?) and democrat votes. I don't see other reason.

The housing crisis seems a male invention, with Barney Frank and Goldman Sachs.; 5/13/13, 1:08 PM
Robert Cook said...: I guess that depends on how lightly or seriously one takes news of complicity by one's government in mass murder.

For most Americans, that would make it a parody site, I suppose.

And we wonder why they hate us.; 5/13/13, 1:09 PM
Cody Jarrett said...: Cookie, I don't wonder why they hate us, for the most part, I don't give a shit why they hate us.

But most of the ones who do--hate us because we have (sorta) freedom and opportunity, and most of the hot women.; 5/13/13, 1:13 PM
Cody Jarrett said...: Dante:

Fair enough.; 5/13/13, 1:14 PM
Lem the artificially intelligent said...: In another thread today Bernstein of Woodward and Bernstein fame said...

We know a lot about President Obama...

I think Bernstein meant 'we know a lot about the image'...

Obamas image is more seductive and compelling than anything Nixon could ever have hoped for.

Obamas image may have proved to be so tantalizing it may have seduced people into doing extraordinary things for him, out of some belief that it was for the good of the country... and now the question will be how much more extraordinary lengths will his admirers go to protect an image that is starting to develop some cracks.

Nothing is more corrosive and corruptive than Image worshiping.; 5/13/13, 1:21 PM
Chip S. said...: ...news of complicity by one's government in mass murder.

It's just sad that you think this constitutes anything remotely like what the cues at your fabulously newsy source prompt you to think.

Reagan envoy Vernon Walters to Guatemalan leaders, as reported at "consortium news":

“If you could give me your assurance that you will take steps to halt official involvement in the killing of persons not involved with the guerrilla forces or their civilian support mechanism … we would be in a much stronger position to defend successfully with the Congress a decision to begin to resume our military supply relationship with your government.”

Consortium News' subsequent characterization of that very same message:

As Walters’s “Talking Points” demonstrate, Reagan and his team accepted the idea of liquidating not only armed guerrillas but civilians who were judged sympathetic to left-wing causes – people who were deemed part of the guerrillas’ “civilian support mechanisms.”

Your source--as seems always to be the case--puts its very special lefty sauce all a hash of fact and opinion and calls this rancid dish "news".; 5/13/13, 1:28 PM
Chip S. said...: No, Cook, I don't know why "they" hate "us".

However, I do know why communists hate Reagan.; 5/13/13, 1:29 PM
pm317 said...: UPDATE: Obama, this morning: "If in fact IRS personnel engaged in the kind of practices that have been reported on and were intentionally targeting conservative groups, then that's outrageous and there's no place for it -- and they have to be held fully accountable."

Who will hold them accountable?
Who is in charge in this administration? Is he or is he not? How long will everybody put up with this shit?; 5/13/13, 1:41 PM
lemondog said...: OJ Simpson back in court.

Video.

Makes one feel old.......; 5/13/13, 2:16 PM
edutcher said...: kind of thing we've been needing to see. Thank you, Madame.

CEO-MMP said...

Did President Shit For Brains actually say "there's no there there" referring to the multiple drafts of the Benghazi cover up?

Why, yes, yes he did.

Robert Cook said...

Sainted Old Codger accessory to grotesque campaign of mass murder

Silly me, I thought he mean this.

They have a verdict.

Details to follow.; 5/13/13, 2:17 PM
Rabel said...: Guilty on 3 of 4 murder charges.; 5/13/13, 2:19 PM
edutcher said...: And that's Murder 1.; 5/13/13, 2:20 PM
edutcher said...: On another front:

Son of "I was in Switzerland during that war".

President Genius only found out Friday about the IRS.; 5/13/13, 2:23 PM
Lem the artificially intelligent said...: ... and they have to be held fully accountable."

The distance Obama is placing between himself and the people that he is supposedly speaking about could place the IRS closer to Ansar al Sharia than to 100 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Hearing Obamas words, it's possible to understand how hard it may have been to get a hold of him during the time of the attack.; 5/13/13, 2:31 PM
Freeman Hunt said...: Is talking about politics changing anything? Is it even worth doing? I'm skeptical. Disillusioned maybe.; 5/13/13, 2:33 PM
ricpic said...: Those Catkins make an unholy mess when they fall. And they all find my windshield.; 5/13/13, 2:33 PM
edutcher said...: Maybe the trolls could start practicing now and save themselves that violent shock later, "President Romney, President Romney".

Now that the wheels are coming off, it's only a matter of time.; 5/13/13, 2:40 PM
Robert Cook said...: "Is talking about politics changing anything?"

No.; 5/13/13, 2:51 PM
Freeman Hunt said...: Time to break out Ecclesiastes.; 5/13/13, 3:08 PM
edutcher said...: Remember how Max Baucus told us he was retiring because ZeroCare would be a "train wreck"? Well between then and now, he's running the IRS investigation, but funny thing. guess who first suggested the IRS investigate those nasty Tea Partiers?

Robert Cook said...

Is talking about politics changing anything?

No.

That's what George III wanted everybody to think.

PS If Barry was right, he'd start remembering what Rev Jeremiah said about chickens:

Petraeus and the CIA have scores to settle.; 5/13/13, 3:16 PM
Cody Jarrett said...: edutcher said...

Maybe the trolls could start practicing now and save themselves that violent shock later, "President Romney, President Romney".

Now that the wheels are coming off, it's only a matter of time.

You wanna maybe clarify that, please?; 5/13/13, 3:23 PM
MadisonMan said...: Spring is a fabulous month in Wisconsin.

I went to Jungs and bought a bunch of bare root stuff on Saturday, and it's now in the ground, just waiting to wow me later this summer.

I am now patiently waiting the arrival of the lilacs out back. The virburnum near my office is smelling delightful today.

Memo to allergy sufferers: Sorry!; 5/13/13, 3:39 PM
edutcher said...: CEO-MMP said...

Maybe the trolls could start practicing now and save themselves that violent shock later, "President Romney, President Romney".

Now that the wheels are coming off, it's only a matter of time.

You wanna maybe clarify that, please?

Once the dam breaks, everything comes out as the rats try to save themselves.

The IRS thing is one more part of the vote fraud orgy.

If the Demos had been found to have stolen the election, it would seem reasonable to give it to the man from whom it was stolen.

All of the "data" and "numbers" about the "low info" voters have originated with media either loyal to Barry or intimidated by him.

Or don't you think the last 6 months, not just Benghazi, could be one huge mind fuck?

It's happened before.; 5/13/13, 3:41 PM
Lydia said...: Is talking about politics changing anything? Is it even worth doing?

That sounds a bit shameful when you think of how dangerous samizdat activity in the Soviet Union was.; 5/13/13, 3:52 PM
Cody Jarrett said...: Thanks ed-t. I thought maybe that's where you were going.

I don't see the election (fraudulent as it was) being overturned though.

Speaking of which, seen the latest Drudge BRIGHT RED HOLY SHIT LOOKA ME headline?

Feds Tap Press Phones

Wonder if that'll change some hearts and minds.; 5/13/13, 3:54 PM
edutcher said...: I'm just saying, what if it was proven?

Civil wars have started on less.; 5/13/13, 3:56 PM
Cody Jarrett said...: 'muricans are too fat and dumb to start a civil war. I mean--they might start it, but then it would be time for American Idol and the whole thing would fall apart.; 5/13/13, 4:32 PM
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...: PHX commented yesterday how righties are running with this "low information voter" meme and how it's stupid, etc. Wonder if he thinks this Daily Kos
article on low information voters from 2008 is a right wing plot too? It sounds to me like they were exploiting this weakness in our national election system -- and it obviously exists because many people who don't know the issues or care about them nevertheless show up to vote -- to benefit Obama.

Why shouldn't the right do the same? If such a large bloc exists, why not direct some effort toward doing the minimal swaying necessary to move them into your LIV column?

I know PHX posited that such a strategy is demeaning or racist or whatever, but is it? I mean if you have enough information to realize what is happening then you're really not a Low Information Voter are you?
Maybe this is just too Yossarian-ish for the Althouse blog, but I do think that voters who are aware enough of issues to understand the LIV concept have essentially removed themselves from the subset of voters who are LIV.; 5/13/13, 5:26 PM
Hagar said...: It's getting complicated.
At his press conference with David Cameron today, the President was lying about the lying about the lying about the Benghazi affair.; 5/13/13, 5:30 PM
wildswan said...: This is a SYMBOL.

Down on the Gulf Coast people were watching as a hurricane approached. It downgraded from Cat 5 to Cat 3 as it came closer and so they stayed in their houses because they had just been through a Cat 4 storm with a 4 foot storm surge. This Cat 3 storm was nothing to fear, they thought. Only - it was the time of the highest high tide. Only - the wind was coming from the same direction as the tide. So the Cat 3 storm called Katrina caused a 30 foot storm surge on the Gulf Coast and tore it to pieces.

Don't give up on the political process because you have seen who Obama is faster than LIVs or MSM reporters. They will be more angry when they do find out because they were deceived longer and stuck up for him.; 5/13/13, 5:39 PM
Methadras said...: Chip S. said...

Is that a parody site, RC?

No, you are seeing the fever swamps he trolls in.; 5/13/13, 5:45 PM
Hagar said...: Even the MSM "reporters" are going to have a hard time swallowing this AP fishing expedition.; 5/13/13, 5:52 PM
Limited Blogger said...: The IRS leaked conservatives' tax info to leftist ProPublica -- quite some time ago. http://www.propublica.org/article/irs-office-that-targeted-tea-party-also-disclosed-confidential-docs

Makes you wonder what sort of phone expeditions DOJ pulled on the same groups, given DHS's "warning" about "right-wing extremists" in 04/09.; 5/13/13, 6:07 PM
edutcher said...: CEO-MMP said...

'muricans are too fat and dumb to start a civil war. I mean--they might start it, but then it would be time for American Idol and the whole thing would fall apart.

No, your talking about Little Zero's fan base, according to the media.

The "low info" voters. The Tea Partiers and others not only get up off their behinds, they get concerned enough to go to rallies.

Hell, they even clean up after themselves.

As I said, civil wars have started over less; 5/13/13, 6:14 PM
wildswan said...: Just read a story about the IRS Scandal - the Cincinnati office is saying it did it all on its own. What with Benghazi, the AP wiretapping, the IRS auditing and other scandals there are so many people falling on their swords for Obama that it's beginning to look like Jonestown.; 5/13/13, 6:15 PM
traditionalguy said...: Sweet Old Barack is about ready to star in his own Hitler's bunker film clip. Blaming his Field Marshalls for the failures resulting from obeying his orders is a paranoid sign.; 5/13/13, 6:44 PM
Cody Jarrett said...: ed, 70-80% of the people who were going to Tea Party rallies have settled back down.

They might get wound up again, they might not.

But how many of them didn't bother to vote for Romney? You think they're going to fight in a civil war when they couldn't be bothered to vote?; 5/13/13, 7:09 PM
Hagar said...: In that presser today, he was lying about his own statements, so he can't blame that on his subordinates.; 5/13/13, 7:40 PM
edutcher said...: CEO-MMP said...

ed, 70-80% of the people who were going to Tea Party rallies have settled back down.

They might get wound up again, they might not.

But how many of them didn't bother to vote for Romney? You think they're going to fight in a civil war when they couldn't be bothered to vote?

People were jacked up, they were energized, remember? Then the "election" comes and suddenly the America everybody thought they knew suddenly had disappeared and we're now Greece.

Right after the "election", the story was 4 million fewer people didn't vote for Choom than before.

A few weeks after that, we hear of this defection from Romney. Could it be it was because people were saying, "He got 4 million fewer votes and still won?".

All of these numbers are being filtered through the media, don't forget.; 5/13/13, 7:59 PM
grackle said...: Just read a story about the IRS Scandal - the Cincinnati office is saying it did it all on its own.

Perhaps, perhaps not. Any ideological targeting done AFTER the big shots know it's happening(perhaps as early as 2009) cannot be truly characterized as "on its own" by any stretch of the imagination.

… there are so many people falling on their swords for Obama …

If the level of punishment to these(so far) faceless, nameless, lower-level bureaucrats turns out to be no more harsh than transfer or demotion we will know then that the fix was on. That would be falling on a Nerf sword.

http://tinyurl.com/d5pkxq6

No jail time for the perpetrators = higher-ups protected and justice thwarted. Expect Obama to move heaven and earth to find reasons to not prosecute. But then it's his Department of Justice, isn't it?

But … but what about a Special Prosecutor? Appointed by Congress? This IRS scandal could be bad for Democrat Senators up for re-election next year if they are seen as reluctant to go along with a thorough investigation. Uh-oh …

Then we could see how many folks in the Obama administration could be tempted into perjury. Oh, what fun!

The wise ones, always scarce in these kind of events, are already huddling on the sly with their personal legal counsel. Any John Deans out there?

Here's a couple of speculative reasons for Pickering and Mullen's reluctance to interview Hillary and other high officials about Benghazi:

An interview with Clinton(and with her immediate underlings) would require depositions under oath which later evidence might prove to be filled with perjury and we all know how that turned out for her partner. No interview – no perjury charges later. Simple, eh? Or …

Since it has been patently evident that Hillary and her immediate underlings were knee-deep in involvement with all aspects of the Benghazi scandal – which are …

Denial of requested security beforehand. This, in the face of known violence against the compound in Benghazi leading up to the final attack. Stupid Progressive "light footprint" policy.

The denial of help to the embattled in Benghazi. They gave them up for dead right away. Unforgivable.

The cover-up afterward. Understandable, given the character of those involved.

… the questions would have necessarily been of the "softball" variety which would of course have been too obvious in the transcript and would have rendered the ARB's report less than useless. As it was they got several months of good cover from the report. Obama apologists were eagerly citing it. No more.; 5/13/13, 8:15 PM
edutcher said...: wildswan said...

Just read a story about the IRS Scandal - the Cincinnati office is saying it did it all on its own.

No, somebody was just promised a Presidential pardon to fall on his sword.

If you think those Service Center Directors have that kind of autonomy, think again. They're civil servants, government slugs, and they're not going to do anything to jeopardize their retirements without a go-ahead from on high.; 5/13/13, 9:12 PM
Saint Croix said...: An astronaut singing Space Oddity.

Cool! Goofy and LOL funny, but cool, too.; 5/13/13, 9:52 PM
Æthelflæd said...: Apparently, the Minnesota gay marriage thing is what is really getting my liberal Facebook friends wee-wee'd up. Conservatives are talking about Gosnell, IRS, and Benghazi. Same planet, different world.; 5/13/13, 10:02 PM
ghostanalyser said...: feel old..

underlying concepts; 5/13/13, 11:46 PM
pm317 said...: It will be interesting to see if Obama can pick the lock of the famously guarded IRS.

Famous words from Ann Coulter in 2012. What did she know and when did she know it? :); 5/14/13, 4:59 AM
Mohankumar said...: This talking about politics changing anything?

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