The photo-op.
If you'd shown me those pictures a quarter century ago and told me that's what Boston will look like after a terrorist attack, I would have thought: Oh, my God! The neutron bomb!
April 19, 2013
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 320 of 320It's funny to watch the cops not even look toward the sound of the shots.
There have been about ten shots in the past couple of minutes.
" I worked with many Bosnian Muslims, not radicalized one bit, they ate pork and drank alcohol, and were not religious."
Bosnian Muslims were often the city folks who converted to please the Ottomans and tend to be well educated. The Serbs hated the Turks (still an epithet in Serbia) and also hated the Bosnian Muslims who they considered to be turncoats.
Read "Black Lamb and Grey Falcon."
Even money he goes down shooting, bleeds out, or blows himself up.
"Dead Chechen Muslim jihadi terrorist bomber number 1's body was taken to ... Beth Israel Hospital."
Where are the sides of bacon for burial ?
ROBOT is detonating devices, that's the explosions they're hearing.
No Liz. Those are shots.
More gunshots! Haven't they killed him yet? Even my news feed person just marveled at the sheer number of swat teams sent in and asked her colleagues if they had counted them.
"Where are the sides of bacon for burial ?"
Oh, come on man.
Don't be that way.
Use offal instead.
Save the bacon.
Too good for this guy, and guys like him.
Michael I did actually read Black Lamb and Grey Falcon, by Rebecca West.
I like the Chechens
The Chechens that go boom
If the robot is detonating devices,
Joker is mincemeat.
Michael I did actually read Black Lamb and Grey Falcon, by Rebecca West.
LOL @ the quick google search.
Bury him in pig chitlins...unsoaked.
No further movement in the boat and the police helicopter has moved off.
CEO LOL that's what I was thinking.
CWJ said...
More gunshots! Haven't they killed him yet? Even my news feed person just marveled at the sheer number of swat teams sent in and asked her colleagues if they had counted them.
Read about the fight the guys who got Heydrich put up.
Two pops (gunshots)
10 seconds
Third shot
Pause
Quick burst of shots
They're backpedaling from explosions.
The Joker is Swiss cheese then, not mincemeat.
Liz, he could have been shooting at them too, they did say he was moving around in the boat. Or under the tarp, whichever.
One sound more explosive, maybe a flash bang or pipe bomb.
Suspect is injured from last night's shootout.
R2D2 going in to slap him.
Take him alive for the interrogation purposes. Waterboard that mofo.
helicopter is back.
CEO, sometimes you are an incredible arrogant jerk. My family lived in the Austro Hungary region and then the Balkans from 1720 onward until the end of the second WW. I am probably far more informed about the region than you.
Firing into a higher end boat...I wonder how many shots are getting lodged in the boat itself. It might be difficult to penetrate. The helicopter should be firing from above.
Edutcher,
Heydrich was not exactly shooting fish in a backyard bass boat.
Just saying.
Inga said...
CEO, sometimes you are an incredible arrogant jerk. My family lived in the Austro Hungary region and then the Balkans from 1720 onward until the end of the second WW. I am probably far more informed about the region than you.
LOL. half a dozen people correct you on your incorrect assumptions and I'm the asshole?
We are laughing at the google copy paste citation, not your family history. Calm down Inga.
(I like you, btw.)
Here's the important thing for those in office or leadership positions in first-responder/law enforcement to remember.
They asked for the public's cooperation in this case and the public reacted in good faith for a good reason. Leadership types need to never abuse this trust in the face of tragedy.
That trust is a very frail thing.
i'm not sure breitbart's transcript of the scanner is all that accurate.
Now this is funny. Our local feed just said that there was no way they could wedge more "cops" into the area.
Couldn't they incapacitate him with tear gas?
Kentucky Liz, I like you too, but choose your "friends" wisely. CEO is a worse attention whore than I am. Also the book sits on my bookshelf, I really dislike arrogant people.
I'm guessing they don't want him to kill himself. This could take several hours more.
Fuck yourself, Inga.
Eye of the tiger man, get it back the edge! Eye of the tiger.
Shutting down a whole city for this is an extravagant overreaction. There should be hearings on what happened after this is over and people held accountable for the waste -- of time, money and human energy. If I were in Boston I'd ignore these pronouncements if I was more than a few miles away from Watertown. There's no reason I shouldn't be able to get to work or the hospital to visit a sick relative because they're looking for a 19 year old on the run with a gun 25 miles away.
Let you not stop where idle pee might hit.
This is early training for the tyrannical Obama dictatorship to come. Look how easily people followed this lockdown order. We are already sheep.
One day of being told to stay indoors has been nothing less than tyranny!
So we must do as we're "told" by the government. I can see now.
If this attack represents a shift in jihadist strategy, this could be the future and we'll have to work out a new way to live.
FBI HRT in from Quantico?
"If this attack represents a shift in jihadist strategy, this could be the future and we'll have to work out a new way to live."
We'll need to grow some stones, for one thing.
CWJ said...
Edutcher,
Heydrich was not exactly shooting fish in a backyard bass boat.
Heydrich was dead.
The SS had a few resistance fighters trapped in a church.
None of them came out alive.
creeley23 said...
"If this attack represents a shift in jihadist strategy, this could be the future and we'll have to work out a new way to live."
Yes.
Too bad our founding fathers didn't anticipate any need whatsoever for the citizenry to be armed.
We'll have to write an amendment to the constitution, get it passed through congress, and then a super-majority of state.
The Capital will be a mosque by then...
Bostonians hiding from their police.
"The SS had a few resistance fighters trapped in a church.
None of them came out alive."
Easier to kill in a war-zone than in a residential neighborhood. The first is sledge-hammer, the other surgery.
"If this attack represents a shift in jihadist strategy, this could be the future and we'll have to work out a new way to live."
If we get even 6 of these attacks in a year, you will see an FDR to the Japanese style crackdown on islamists that will make what Israel does look like patty cake.
And it will be completely warranted.
Jeez. These guys didn't try to flee at all. After the bombing they resumed their regular lives until their photos were released yesterday.
"If we get even 6 of these attacks in a year, you will see an FDR to the Japanese style crackdown on islamists that will make what Israel does look like patty cake.
And it will be completely warranted."
Not until 20 January 2017.
Not until 20 January 2017.
Exactly.
No matter what popular opinion is, a D administration would never go along.
Well, a Hillary administration might.
Lucky for the Boston PD that this kid is a fleeing amateur, because otherwise his "first responder" IEDs would have wreaked havoc on that big crowd of LEOs milling around.
"nga said...
CEO, sometimes you are an incredible arrogant jerk. My family lived in the Austro Hungary region and then the Balkans from 1720 onward until the end of the second WW. I am probably far more informed about the region than you."
Cool ! Were they Nazis ?
No Michael K, sorry to dissapoint you.
"Heydrich was dead.
The SS had a few resistance fighters trapped in a church.
None of them came out alive." If I was one of the guys who got Heydrich, I wouldn't come out alive either.
Heydrich took a week to die. The men from Lidice were dead before he was.
A Japanese style crackdown is absolutely possible from the Obama administration. Who would have predicted drone strikes by Obama in 2008? Obama will do whatever he thinks of and the reaction of his base be damned. They'll go along to get along.
"Cool ! Were they Nazis ?"
Many of the most enthusiastic Nazis were Austrians.
Applause on scene. Listening to the police scanner, I think they got him alive.
We were not Austrians.
One ess in disappoint.
Tim said...
The SS had a few resistance fighters trapped in a church.
None of them came out alive.
Easier to kill in a war-zone than in a residential neighborhood. The first is sledge-hammer, the other surgery.
What war zone?
This was in the middle of Prague. A residential neighborhood.
A Japanese style crackdown is absolutely possible from the Obama administration. Who would have predicted drone strikes by Obama in 2008? Obama will do whatever he thinks of and the reaction of his base be damned. They'll go along to get along.
Yeah but if he could do it to conservative Americans he would--but he'd never do it to muzzies.
wyo-sis,
No disputing the Democrat-Obama base will enthusiastically support whatever Obama does, or doesn't do, in response to terror.
The distinction with the drones is, they're overseas, killing people no one here knows, or knows about.
In nation Muslims?
Can you imagine the outrage of the NY Times?
Fox reports the suspect is in custody.
He is in custody.
Cops are leaving scene. Ambulance arriving.
tits.
Well, I guess we will find out more about the Chehan jihadists and their plans for the the US.
WCVB says he is in custody.
"This was in the middle of Prague. A residential neighborhood."
Right.
But during a war.
In German-occupied Czechoslovakia.
By the occupying forces.
Who were at war.
It didn't matter to them if it a residential neighborhood, just as the Blitz of London didn't matter to the Germans either.
More than a minor distinction with this evening's police action at 67 Franklin, Watertown, MA.
If Holder decides the little fuck gets Miranda rights, then citizens should march on Washington.
And a pre-emptive fuck you to Cooktard who will be crying about the Islamic little shit's "rights."
So! Was it worth being subjugated by the Feds for a day?
Inga said...
Well, I guess we will find out more about the Chehan jihadists and their plans for the the US.
Some of us will. You on the other hand, are far too ignorant to find out anything.
After hours of police coaxing, the little man in the boat came quietly.
"So! Was it worth being subjugated by the Feds for a day?"
No. We catch run away armed and dangerous murderers everyday with out shutting down whole cities. That was foolish, and a terrible precedent.
Inga said...
So! Was it worth being subjugated by the Feds for a day?
Nope. And I tink that in hindsight a majority will agree that it was overkill.
In fact, wasn't it the easing of the curfew that got the boat owner to go outside and find him?
How many of them carry bombs on their bodies? Like his brother?
The bomb is the fear that makes the shutdown. There were apparently other bombs and no one in authority wants to be held accountable if a bomb takes out more people.
Would you look at some of those staties?
They are fucking packing!!!
They're wearing kevlar cups, Titus.
People of Watertown seem pretty darn happy.
Tons of helicopy wopies just went by.
Who found him on the boat?
As I said, there is nothing more deadly about the bombs he had than a gun. A gun keeps killing until you stop him. Think about it, if you wanted to kill people and were running with everyone knowing what you look like, would you take gun or bomb.
The idea of a bomb is just emotional confusion, not reason.
Unless he had a nuclear warhead on him, the people miles away in Boston were in no danger. Not even the people half a mile away, or 200 yards.
I can't stand Brian Williams.
gotta go change the channel.
Read him the Miranda rights. He's going to be executed like Timothy McVeigh and the DC Sniper dude. I think he'll regret surrendering.
أنا لا يقدم إلى الإسلام
No death penalty in Massachusetts, is there?
It's a Federal rap first and foremost like McVeigh. Mass charges will never see trial probably.
Someone mentioned that terrorists use our media to help spread terror - part of their toolbox.
Now we have some toolbox of our own-- with our social media. I guess the FBI was inundated with record amounts of helpful social media type information.
(except for the idiots on MSNBC blathering on about tea party/tax payers and white folks)
No death penalty in Massachusetts, is there?
Federal charges.
April, that was CNN.
"There were apparently other bombs and no one in authority wants to be held accountable if a bomb takes out more people."
Then they're in the wrong job. There are lots of things authorities don't want to be responsible for. That gives them less authority, not more. It's really not their call.
CNN too? ok.
April,lol. :)
I don't disagree Bryan. There is a huge political cost to being wrong in a high profile case like this. If people don't want to accept the cost they shouldn't seek the job.
The different ways Bush and Clinton and Obama handle blame is very instructive.
MSNBC said the suspect is a custodian. And he's mad because he lost custody of his little kid. And they caught him in a Boston pudding factory and now he's all custa'y. Chorclate.
Will Obama send a 19 year old to Gitmo?
Obama will do anything that deflects blame.
Where is Althouse?
Watching American Idol again?
So true or not, from here on, this younger brother is not completely responsible for what his older brother talked him into.
It was really nice of his older brother to sacrifice by tossing himself under that car.
Carmen Ortiz?
Why does that name ring a bell?
Remember the guy that killed Versace?
He was finally found in Florida, hole up at a boathouse where he shot himself.
Eerie similarity.
ABC News reporting that no Miranda rights, at least not immediately, public safety exception.
I am okay with that. Melissa Ortiz is a rotten cunt though. Seeing her at the podium is disgusting me now, turning coverage off.
Madness.
I've had a long day. Goodnight all.
I am glad this is over for the people of Boston. Good job. plus -they can get coffee again. whew
Oh, look, it is Carmen Ortiz, taking the moment to try to rehabilitate her image.
She obviously can't find much difference between these Cambridge guys and another Cambridge free-information guy, but there she is, taking charge and telling us that she's helped us be safe.
What a pathetic ambitious snake.
For me this is going to be an ongoing blablabla...
Ortiz... 'My journey'?
Redemption..
Carmen Ortiz is one of those prosecutors that uses over charging as a bludgeon. She is responsible for the death by suicide of Andrew Schwartz for unauthorized down loading of academic papers.
What favor did Ortiz grant - what deal did she cut - to get her few minutes in front of the microphones?
The Governor probably just walked away with a future get out of jail free card for a friend.
We really don't need to hear from all of these politicos. Give us info or shut up.
Tim said...
This was in the middle of Prague. A residential neighborhood.
Right.
But during a war.
In German-occupied Czechoslovakia.
By the occupying forces.
Who were at war.
It didn't matter to them if it a residential neighborhood, just as the Blitz of London didn't matter to the Germans either.
More than a minor distinction with this evening's police action at 67 Franklin, Watertown, MA.
What do you think that was?
The whole op was run by the Gestapo. And the Czechs, for the most part, were cowed. The 2 guys who did the hit were part of No 10 Commando of the British Army.
House owner went to check on his boat...
I don't know what it means... but I like how that sounds.
Oh I know... its a Sunday sermon.
If we get even 6 of these attacks in a year, you will see an FDR to the Japanese style crackdown on islamists that will make what Israel does look like patty cake.
It'll take a while for us to get there.
I wouldn't have thought Americans would have been so complacent about our deep long economic slump and high unemployment rates. But Obama's 2012 win and the continued lack of serious concern about the economy suggest that Americans are willing to accept this as the new normal.
And if that includes several jihadist attacks a year, well, what'r'ya gonna do?
I keep looking for the tipping point. However, I've come to conclude we're going to have to hit the wall *hard* and then we'll rethink things. Only then and not before.
Wonder why the guy didn't hide in the house instead of the boat, him being all armed and dangerous and stuff. Maybe get the homeowners car and money and get out of the area.
Oh, good Obama is going to make a speech. Should clarify everything.
No doubt will have new info.
way to long to see if someone already suggested that maybe the caution was because they really did have some chatter -- like possibly a dirty bomb. If that was the case, then closing down the city was a good idea.
Sorun said...
Read him the Miranda rights. He's going to be executed like Timothy McVeigh and the DC Sniper dude. I think he'll regret surrendering.
That's a law enforcement mentality.
Any penalty should be up for consideration of any valuable info he has on other Muslim terrorists and perhaps a detailed and promptly provided history of his conversion to active terror, his brothers, and any family members or other influences.
And fuck the champions of Victimhood demanding - "Lets leave it to the Victim Families with their total moral authority to make the call".
No..they do not trump what is optimum for national security and the best interests of all Americans.
And lets hope that the Boston people stop Holder's people from lawyering up the enemy jihadi now in custody.
I guess we will find out more about the Chehan jihadists and their plans for the the US.
Two Chechen teenagers paralyzed a major US metropolitan area for five days. Seasoned Chechen fighters?
Search "Beslan images" and "Nord-ost siege" for what they've done to Russian civilians.
Search "First Battle of Grozny" for what they did to the Russian Army in a built-up area.
Titus said...
Tons of helicopy wopies just went by.
Who found him on the boat?
The owner of the boat found him and called the cops who had already been there earlier and failed to inspect the boat. Apparently he had been there from the night before.
I wonder if they're going to have a day for the owner of the boat.
GrandpaMark said...
Wonder why the guy didn't hide in the house instead of the boat, him being all armed and dangerous and stuff. Maybe get the homeowners car and money and get out of the area.
Noise at night attracts attention from the neighbors. They call. They ask questions. They call the popo.
Sneaking into a boat on a trailer in the middle of the night is quieter but useless when the boat owner has a security camera aimed at the boat.
"She is responsible for the death by suicide of Andrew Schwartz for unauthorized down loading of academic papers."
No, she's not. She's responsible for whatever she's responsible for in doing her job (or overdoing her job) but she's not responsible for that. That decision is entirely personal. I've learned that lesson recently.
"So! Was it worth being subjugated by the Feds for a day?"
"No. We catch run away armed and dangerous murderers everyday with out shutting down whole cities. That was foolish, and a terrible precedent."
Well said and so true. In a very real way, the terrorists won something with that, similar to the 9/11 hijackers. The bomber brothers leveraged a few hundred dollars worth of supplies (and in the other case a few box cutters) into multimillion dollars of economic damage. We didn't have much control over that on 9/11, once the planes were in the air, but this one was a self-inflicted and entirely avoidable wound.
furious_a,
...it's as much to prevent negligent shootings by police as to make the manhunt easier.
FTFY.
As a matter of fact, I drink all kinds of beverages as well as alcohol. I'm not an alcoholic but I drink alcohol occasionally.
Thanks for the article. It is quite informative.
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