“ABC is desperate to freshen the show. Ratings are going soft, and research numbers on the stars’ likability are scaring network execs."Ratings are going soft... That has an absurdly penile ring to it.
March 17, 2013
"[T]he ABC brass believes the show needs to be younged-up fast. "
The show = "The View." I love the phrase "younged-up," which I don't remember ever seeing before.
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"We need tumescent ratings, stat!!!"
Younged-up, sounds like being hung by the Youngers.
Joy Bahar not likeable?
I nominate Sandra Fluke. She can draw 11 people to a convenience store parking lot in Nevada. That's star power. And she's younger-ish.
Christie Brinkley or Brooke Shields? I thought they were going for young.
There is nothing absurdly penile about "...going soft" when Whoopie Goldberg is involved.
I've never watched the show but I get the impression that there's a lot of head nodding and "consensus-building" going on. Perhaps they should inject some polarity into the show--put the complacent hens on edge--everyone loves to watch a cockfight.
The Knicks need to be younged-up, too!
Bad ass!
They could always do some handcuff porn.
I vote for a new panel consisting of the writers of Jezebel, Don Imus, and rhhardin.
Smartened up might be a better tack.
Ann Althouse said...
Ratings are going soft... That has an absurdly penile ring to it.
Too many Cialis commercials.
"absurdly penile ring" makes it past the censor, but "h-a-m-m-e-r-y" does not?
TML mentioned Sandra Fluke.
Did you hear what Coulter said about her yesterday? Something along the lines of:
"That hair style should be birth control enough for her."
lol
Love Ann.
"I vote for a new panel consisting of the writers of Jezebel, Don Imus, and rhhardin."
Nothing says "young" like Don Imus.
The formerly hip liberals have aged into shrill old liberals. Their first instinct was to get rid of the lone conservative, but perhaps most of them will need to go so that they can restock with new hip liberals.
Does it really matter>
Who watches the View that is anyone of consequence?
Ann Althouse snarked...
Nothing says "young" like Don Imus.
I think Freeman was just questioning whether lack of "youth" was the real problem. But go ahead, nominate Ezra Klein--you know you want to.
Did you hear what Coulter said about her yesterday? Something along the lines of...."
People who love her love her, but to an outsider to that love... all those one-liners, as if she's a stand-up comedian... yikes.
Saying that another woman's looks would keep men from getting erections... that's really bad.
It's sooo easy to hit back on that joke too. As her detractors often point out, Ann Coulter looks like a man. Blah blah blah. Write your own obvious, automatic joke about erections.
It's so hilarious.
I nominate Sarah Palin for the view.
BTW, someone I know asserts that Sarah has had "work done." I said no way because her detractors would have telegraphed that already.
Saying that another woman's looks would keep men from getting erections... that's really bad.
But, sometimes appropriate.
I would imagine that seeing Whoopi Goldberg in the nude would condemn just about any man to a lifetime of erectile dysfunction!
Nothing says "young" like Don Imus.
He could wear a slouchy hat.
"I think Freeman was just questioning whether lack of "youth" was the real problem. But go ahead, nominate Ezra Klein--you know you want to."
Want? I don't want anything out of The View. Nothing would make me watch. Plus I'm old. They don't want me to watch. If I was paid big money to be "ABC brass," I'd put effort into trying to figure out which set of 4 or 5 women would be compelling to today's young women.
I wouldn't assume youngness would work, because young people don't have enough experience with things to keep talking interestingly on lots of different subjects.
16 years! Has that stupid show really been on for 16 years?!?!
Seriously, who wants to sit and watch a bunch of bitter, old ladies basically gossiping, bitching and dog piling onto the one 'girl' chosen to be the token outsider. You might as well hang out at a beauty shop all day long that caters to your grandmothers era getting high on perm solution.
Oh, now things are getting crotchety.
Schwing!
I don't want to watch The View now, but I would watch it if it had the panel I suggested.
I would also want to watch it if they replaced the panel discussions with reruns of How It's Made or Watch Mr. Wizard.
I would imagine that seeing Whoopi Goldberg in the nude would condemn just about any man to a lifetime of erectile dysfunction!
Except for that Dutch guy she warmly embraced the other day.
The pictures of Sandra Fluke I have seen reminds me of paintings of ladies from the Regency period.
SomeoneHasToSayIt said...
TML mentioned Sandra Fluke.
Fluke is good looking but her mind is ugly.
It needs more tuna.
Youthanize it.
Althouse replies: Want? I don't want anything out of The View. Nothing would make me watch.
You're right. And we shouldn't second guess what the ABC brass wants for the show.
Bristol Palin would young up The View.
Turn it into a female McLaughlin Group:
Miss Sarah and Ann Coulter vs Ms Fluck and Lena Dunham.
Actually, you could call it Spartacus: Gladiatorae From Hell.
EnigmatiCore said...
The formerly hip liberals have aged into shrill old liberals.
You'll have to refresh my Alzheimered memory, when was Baba Wawa ever hip?
"I'd put effort into trying to figure out which set of 4 or 5 women would be compelling to today's young women."
According to daytime television, young women all have high powered careers, or in school on their way to high powered careers. It's young men who are home during the day, either unemployed or underemployed, or home with the kids of young women.
Cancel The View and show episodes of BBC's Top Gear or something.
Fluke has mom hair.
A birth control activist with mom hair is funny in several ways.
Maybe they need a guy on the panel. How about the one from the VW commercial who was teaching his boy to throw a baseball.
Howling feminists lead to soft penises and ratings.
If they want young, don't go for Hasselbacks removal. Get rid of Behar and Walters. (i'd keep Whoopi since you have to have one old bag, and she's actually kind of likable in a curmudgeonly kind of way.) The other black woman who's name escapes me is perfectly fine. It's the oldies in the mix that are bringing the show down.
Get Sarah Palin on that show!
She'll initially be the person people in NY love to hate, but my guess is she'll grow on everyone really quickly to the point where she's a favorite.
I'd get a TV just to watch The Five if it featured Sandra Fluke wearing nothing but a Malthusian Belt.
Will women ever stop bitching?
Too many Cialis commercials.>
If you want to see Cialis commercials (ludicrous, of course, but just bear with me) don't bother watching The View. Instead watch just about any sporting event. It is the Conventional Wisdom that it is impossible for a man over age 35 or 40 to get a boner unless he gobbles "erectile dysfunction" drugs like so many M&M's. Or for him to Drain the Weasel in less than 20 minutes unless he pops some Flomax. Or to have any desire to nail a woman unless he's taking "low T" drugs.
Peter
That has an absurdly penile ring to it.
That really calls for a link to the Amazon portal.
Will women ever stop bitching?
Not as long as it keeps working
;-P
Joy Behar is 70 years old. She needs to be replaced by a woman in her 20's. Elizabeth was 25 when she was hired to be the "young one". She is now 35 with 3 kids. Whoopi is now the "old one".
jr565
Hassleback
Sara Palin
Grow on everyone
Is this a reference back to the mossback post?
Why does "soft" have an "absurdly penile ring" to your ear? Why not a dental ring to your ear? Are you trained to see and hear penises everywhere?
Get Courtney Hansen on the show. She wouldn't even have to say anything. Maybe have her rebuild a carburetor or something else automotive.
Oh, and have her get up and walk around for a while.
Ageism. There's a pile of data that shows that older people have far greater disposable income than younger people and that older people spend a lot more money than younger people. Moreover, aside from a few things, like Coke vs Pepsi, brand loyalty is not something that is permanently determined by the age of 25, at least not nearly to the extent that popular wisdom holds. There's also the little detail that there aren't as many post-boomers as there are boomers. Target the show to older people, using a cast that is more in sync with that large demographic's preferences, and watch the money roll in.
Of course, the 28 year old "creatives" in marketing think that older people are boring, so they'll spend their time developing tumblr campaigns using bouncy graphics and tiny typefaces. Making money is so boring.
For anyone who is interested in the subject of ageism in advertising, there is a terrific, 26 minute podcast and blog post on the subject from 2011 (i.e. "old") over at Radio Canada. Follow the link or just search cbc.ca for "Ageism in Advertising".
"smarted up" was not considered.
get rid of 100 year old Walters - first step
"The View" hot topics is must-see TV. It's a festival of stupidity, or in Barbara Walters' case, stupidity plus octogenarian crankiness. One's first reaction is to grieve for the country, but on sober reflection, one concludes that if this in any way reflects the national zeitgeist, the country deserves what it's getting.
You want soft male appendages? easy: Helen Thomas (is she still alive?)
I can't believe any men watch that show, not real men.
Also Nina Totenberg or MoDo comes to mind.
They really need to un-stupid it.
At my house the Views alternative is anyone of the morning programs that encourage perpetual drinking or Top Gear on BBC.No wonder I pay for Streampix.(work nights)
Rob, above TOTALLY reflects my own views about "The View." Just GOT to watch the daily train-wreck..
Used to be History Channel.You know when they had History programs instead of the endless parade of faux reality shows like MTV and TLC.
LOL. Biff, above, really nicely sums-up the "marketing" types who rule TV & the movies these days..
But Ernie G wins the thread!! LOL!!!
Sometimes I see bits of The View whilst working out (though I'm typically listening to a podcast at the time, and see only the closed-captioned version). Kelly and (is it?) Michael is much more entertaining as a soundless complement to treadmill running.
With Fluke, her essence is her unbelievably obvious ridiculousness, exceeded only by her cluelessness.
I wish Coulter had hit even harder, like she did with the despicable so-called, and thankfully former, Lion of the Senate.
Pointing out that it is the Dems that are truly anti-woman, she said , of the so-called "war on women", that so far "Ted Kennedy has the only confirmed kill."
Yes. Exactly.
I have read that those penile rings can be dangerous. But they can prevent softness.
Okay, if I were ABC brass I'd get a home show/crafting show personality that people liked who was not particularly political (our plain vanilla character with special skill bonuses), a conservative Christian--maybe someone who writes popular devotionals or does them on radio or television (there is a huge, largely untapped television market for a personality like this on mainstream TV), a liberal New Ager (established mainstream TV role, tried and true), and a mildly sassy woman, probably from stand up, who has some kind of extreme view, probably an extreme libertarian (humor and foil.) Either the sassy one or the craftsperson needs to be Catholic.
The conservative and the liberal draw the lines. The plain craftperson offers the apolitical, woman on the street perspective on and reaction to the lines drawn (also special craft segments.) The sassy one interjects humor and unexpected direction to discussions.
I would not watch this lame show, nor any show generally, but I think this show would make many millions of dollars.
"I would imagine that seeing Whoopi Goldberg in the nude would condemn just about any man to a lifetime of erectile dysfunction!"
I think B. Franklin said;
"All cats are gray in the dark"
Althouse said...
I don't want anything out of The View. Nothing would make me watch. Plus I'm old. They don't want me to watch. If I was paid big money to be "ABC brass," I'd put effort into trying to figure out which set of 4 or 5 women would be compelling to today's young women.
But, according to Nielsen, 79% of The View audience is female with a median age of 59.
Seems to me the ABC brass would actually want you to watch.
Oh, and I'd keep Whoopi in the fifth seat. Iconic personality, life experience, sort of the anchor chair.
Actually a better method would be to make a list of personalities you could probably get and build the panel from that. It's all who people like and how they hang together.
Or you start by brainstorming what women who might watch this show are interested in these days.
Autism
Dog rescue
Organic food/cooking
Education
Child-rearing
Working out
Crafting
Niceness
Photography
Throwing good parties
Shopping
Family vacations
Reality television, especially the matchmaking shows
Safety
More
You'd want to hit these things or get "experts" on these topics on your panel if possible. (I made that list by scrolling through Facebook and remembering what likely viewers often post about.)
Maybe they mean they need to talk about their dreams more.
So, have they fired the old bird yet?
Maybe they mean they need to talk about their dreams more.
Yes. What the exec really recommended was "Junging it up".
Ok Freeman. So...
Jenny McCarthy
The former hostess of Trading Spaces
Michelle Rhea
Marianne Williamson
And
Joel Osteen's wife, Victoira
Find a few self-made women. Those outside of the expected media domain.
they should hire khloe kardasian.
A reality tv lineup
Khloe Kardashian
Jacki Warner (lesbian, fitness)
Bethenny Frankel
NeNe Leaks
Are there any 'young' lefties? (Who wants the Occupy gals on TV?) The only one I can recall is the one who flips her hair around while talking who occasionally the Professor annoys on video. Ellen G does not count. For a couple reasons. Only one being she has her own show.
Truth is, the visible conservative females rock.
Wonder what the ratings would be? And could conservative women stand chattering about nothing for what -- half hour? Or is it an hour!?? (Don't know, never watched it. Just have seen clips.)
If ABC can sacrifice its values and ideology (as it demands of the right) and wants to make money --- go for the cons!
(Does Michelle Malkin have a favorite brownie recipe?)
Isn't Hasselback one of the younger ones?
Shouldn't Barbara Walters drop herself immediately if she's trying to freshen up the show?
Hmm. Sandra Fluke actually wouldn't be bad. If you're going to have a liberal chat show, wouldn't it be nice to get some people with an education instead of mini-brain quasi celebrities?
Oh, what am I saying? lulz. That's for PBS. That'd sink in the ratings.
Alrighty then, get Mama from Honey Boo Boo and the gay uncle.
Chip S wins best quip of the thread award.
Re-name the show - we are liberal penile. Truth in advertising, I say.
If you watch the View - don't vote!
SomeoneHasToSayIt said...
Chip S wins best quip of the thread award.
I second that.
What, Boomers can't carry a show anymore?
To "young-up" this show, they get rid of what appears to be the youngest cast member? Obviously, Walters, Goldberg and Behar appeal to the young and hip.
Prolonged exposure to Rosie, Joy and Whoopi can lead to penile softening.
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