February 27, 2013
"Can you imagine Ronald Reagan sitting there and saying ‘Oh, by the way, I can’t do this because of some budget document?’ "
"Or George W. Bush saying, ‘You know, I’m not going to invade Iraq because I can’t get the aircraft carriers I need’ or even Bill Clinton saying, ‘You know, I’m not going to attack Saddam Hussein’s intelligence headquarters,’ as he did when Clinton was president because of some budget document? Under the Constitution, the president is commander-in-chief and employs the force. And so we now have the president going out because of this piece of paper and this agreement, I can’t do what I need to do to protect the country. That’s a kind of madness that I haven’t seen in a long time."
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No Drama Obama has become Melodrama Obama.
Not that anything mortuary bob says impresses me.
I never realized how much Bob Woodward looks like Clint Eastwood.
Not that anything mortuary bob says impresses me.
Would it impress you if Donna Brazile can't figure out why her health premiums just jumped up?
Obama is a whiny bitch.
But the sheeple still think the Republicans are the problem.
This country is so utterly boned.
Reagan led from in front. Makes all the, well, most of the, difference.
Does the Commander in Chief get to vote 'present?'
Looks like it.
"If you don't pass a small package of spending cuts and tax reforms I'll kill this dog."
-- Barack Hussein Obama
This fucking Woodward character really wants an Oscar, playing to the cheap seats. Oh. My. God. I'm just now discovering that our centrist president is perhaps a smidge aggressively ultra left. Madness! Ah wuz misled!! Oh, would that someone had told me!!!
This is the beginning of the Obama story crack-up.
The press will be dragged along kicking & screaming. The squish-lefty press will never go along. But, when an eminence grise like Woodward, "the man who brought down Nixon", starts saying this stuff, it becomes more & more difficult to deny what every plugged-in DC-ite knows: This administration is fuck-wits from top to bottom.
The faked government implosion that the administration will try to pull off because of the sequestration, so it can blame the Repubs will be its undoing.
I dunno if it's madness, but it's certainly petulance.
"I never realized how much Bob Woodward looks like Clint Eastwood."
Please retract this statement.
The Madness means Woodward had a sudden realization that only a Fifth Columnist enemy inside the White House could do this.
It is either mad or it is a rational enemy act.
Obama is a pussy.
An arrogant, narcissistic pussy. A bad combination.
According to Woodward, it's "madness" for a sitting president like ̶N̶i̶x̶o̶n̶ Obama to ignore federal laws written on silly "pieces of paper". ̶N̶i̶x̶o̶n̶ . Obama should just ̶w̶i̶r̶e̶t̶a̶p̶ spend money no matter what our current laws dictate.
What happened to Woodward anyway? Even D+ journos are easily tearing apart his arguments.
It's not so much madness as just Obama's being a piece of shit.
Oh, that crazy Bob Woodward. He's expecting Obama to act in the best interest of our nation and its citizens. How provincial.
The media discovers Obama the genius is actually kinda unprepared to be president.
Please retract this statement.
I don't mean it literally. C'mon, it's funny. I mean, at least I think it is. Think for a second.
"What happened to Woodward anyway? Even D+ journos are easily tearing apart his arguments."
Oh Lord Jesus, it's another idiot!
How about America elect a president who demands a budget from the Senate?
Or, failing that, how about the Senate passing a budget?
Yeah, baby steps.
But the first step to recovery is to take that step, no matter how small.
Hey, Garage?
There is no federal law either in force or pending preventing the President from deploying the U.S.S. Truman to the gulf.
What happened to you, anyway? Even a D+ commenter like me is tearing your arguments apart.
Scott M said...
Not that anything mortuary bob says impresses me.
Would it impress you if Donna Brazile can't figure out why her health premiums just jumped up?
No, but it amuses the Hell out of me. She was Albert Gore's Jarrett, so we can assume she was all for this before they passed it so she now sees what's (not) in it for her.
What's even funnier is Democrats like Kerosene Maxine complaining about the debt clock readout on the House floor.
What happened to you, anyway? Even a D+ commenter like me is tearing your arguments apart.
You gotta forgive garage. He drops a turd and thinks it's a gold brick.
Obama would have us believe that if the sequester goes through we'll all be living in a post apocalyptic hellscape within a few days - with roving bands of barbaric gasoline raiders and a soundtrack by Tina Turner.
Many working families just took a 2% cut in take-home pay as their payroll tax rates were restored to dangerously underfunded levels from recklessly stupid, doomed to failure levels.
Yet, our federal government, under the benighted "leadership" (..."Present!) of the least experienced man ever elected president, somehow cannot withstand these tragic, painful, unprecedented "cuts."
Dear God, we're so screwed.
I can't help but wonder how big of a wheelbarrow of this horseshit the Mainstream Media are willing to eat. Is there a breaking point? Do they have any semblance of integrity left?
John Boehner told an investment manager friend that Obama has marshmallow balls. His favorite vote has always been present.
Since when is Bob Woodward the darling of the right wing psycho talkers?
There is no federal law either in force or pending preventing the President from deploying the U.S.S. Truman to the gulf.
Woodward referred to "some budget document", which also happens to be federal law.
Barry wanted to cut Pentagon spending by $78 billion, does anyone remenber that?
Oh, and was for the sequester.
I can't help but wonder how big of a wheelbarrow of this horseshit the Mainstream Media are willing to eat.
Benghazi was a 53' trailer-full, so we know they can swallow at least that much.
As someone on the internet pointed out recently, just how interested do you think today's media would be in a story about a campaign-related opposition research break-in at a Washington hotel?
The recalled carrier's original mission should factor into condemning POTUS' decision or not. Still, the publicity telegraphs the message that "we're broke--please don't bother us." Perhaps that message was intentional?
Really get the impression that Woodward views Obama as a very small person -- and an even smaller president.
EDH said...
Really get the impression that Woodward views Obama as a very small person -- and an even smaller president.
Is Woodward raaacist?
Ann, see the buck does not stop at his desk.
Never did cause he is a 'community organizer president'.
He's motto is to lead from behind, the Chicago way.
Anyway.. IT'S BUSHS FAULT!
Woodward referred to "some budget document", which also happens to be federal law.
He was referring to sequestration, you jackass, which affords the President a high degree of flexibility in implementing the required fake "cuts." Again, no law is compelling him specifically to forestall deployment of whatever damned carrier, or carriers, or the entire goddamned US Navy if he so chooses, to the Persian Gulf anytime he pleases. He's choosing to do so, and yes, it's very much madness.
D+ commenter scores again.
just how interested do you think today's media would be in a story about a campaign-related opposition research break-in at a Washington hotel?
Depends on the political party in power.
If you're partial to blogging lawyers -- and who isn't around here! -- I recommend PowerLine blog (http://www.powerlineblog.com/). John Hinderaker has an excellent sequester analogy from yesterday. If a Big Mac Meal Deal is the Federal Budget, the sequester is equal to 2.5 french fries. The amount we're talking about (except for the military) is ridiculously tiny.
Especially because we are talking fake cuts of the distinctly Washingtonian variety, i.e. a reduction in the rate of increase, despite the fact the budget (if it existed) is increasing this year.
If your preference is for visual analogies. Please see Michael Ramirez' excellent sequester "pie" cartoon
(also available at the PowerLine blog). Priceless.
His Majesty was all powerful and all knowing. But he wasn't quite all there.
-The Madness of King Barack
"Nice country you got there, I'd hate to see anything happen to it"...Barack Obama, chief enforcer of the federal Mob.
What makes Obama run?
Maybe he thinks we must raise taxes; that's the important thing; that will level the playing field. Putting the Washington Monument and the deer frolicking on the lawn around it at risk could convince the electorate to support raising taxes.
Maybe he wants to destroy the GOP. I find this non-compelling. Does he seek total destruction? Unlikely.
Maybe he wants power, and in his relatively long life he has learned that the best avenues to power involve protest, victim-ideology, and drastic, unyielding blaming.
Bingo. Obama wants power. I assume that that's his goal. He doesn't care much how he gets or wields the power he acquires. He simply wants it.
He was referring to sequestration,
No fucking shit! Congress passed it, and Obama signed it. "this piece of paper and this agreement" is officially the law.
Elite villager derangement syndrome. Woodward is worried about a precious war ship and seems to be utterly disinterested how the sequester will effect regular people.
This relates to your earlier post about the health care lobbyist who worried that sequester wouldn't be catastrophic. All government agencies and departments, including defense, have an incentive to make the cuts as painful as possible. As if there isn't plenty of waste and non-essential defense spending to cut.
What's remarkable is the willingness to play these sorts of games with America's troops deployed overseas.
Garage,
Obama can do layoffs of some of the nearly 1 million Department of Defense civilian workers. Nothing in the law compels the administration to recall carriers (it does prohibit any payroll cuts to service members).
So, if you were President would you cut some workers at the Pentagon or recall a carrier from the Persian Gulf?
Maybe his booze-addled Secretary of Defense should pick up the phone and call his ass out for this petulant bullshit.
Elite villager derangement syndrome. Woodward is worried about a precious war ship and seems to be utterly disinterested how the sequester will effect regular people.
How has the shitty economy affected "regular people"?
Garage,
If Obama cared about how it would affect people, he and his Treasury Secretary nominee Jack "Citibank" Lew shouldn't have demanded the sequestration. Look at the bill. It is signed by Barack Obama.
This is what happens when morons elect fools. Enjoy.
It's an excellent opportunity to disband the education department and the energy department.
The Navy could also suspend the use of 26.00/gallon bio-fuel and use diesel instead. I read the savings would be around 200 million, a drop in the bucket I know, but far more sensible than not sending a needed carrier to a danger spot.
garage mahal said "Woodward is worried about a precious war ship and seems to be utterly disinterested how the sequester will effect regular people."
I presume you meant "affect". But no matter.
Woodward pointed to an example that he apparently thought made clear how our POTUS is putting politics before things like national security.
Do you dispute that? The deer around the Washington monument are wondering.
I can't do this because of some document - like The Constitution?
Those pesky guidelines.
No, this is Madness!
OBA-MANIPULATION
2011 Obama defends automatic spending cuts (Nov. 21, 2011):
“Already some in Congress are trying to undo these automatic spending cuts. My message to them is simple: No.” “I will veto any effort to get rid of those automatic spending cuts to domestic and defense spending.”
So, if you were President would you cut some workers at the Pentagon or recall a carrier from the Persian Gulf?
Personally, I'd dismantle the carrier, sell the parts and give the proceeds to workers.
Paul said...
Ann, see the buck does not stop at his desk.
People have begun to notice.
Its all about 2014, they've identified the districts and the issues they will focus on. It matters not that a majority of people know what a sham this is. Enough will vote democratic no matter what so they just need to bus in enough to swing those couple dozen districts blue. Those voters are clueless now and will be then.
Darn it, can't remember where I was this AM, someone pointed out why the VA Gov was whining, 5 of the top 10 counties in the country are in VA.
Garage,
Which workers would you pay if you were Obama, Tiger Woods or Beyonce?
The world didn't end when we were downgraded, we'll survive a 2% cut.
Personally, I'd dismantle the carrier, sell the parts and give the proceeds to workers.
Well, well, at long last at least you finally admit the law wouldn't require you to do so, which is what you were screech-serting up above.
D+ commenter, up 3-0.
garage seems fully prepared to go down with the ship.
He's tied himself to Obama's mast, and is roaring defiance at the building wind.
OT but Oh, Boy, this could get really interesting:
Via Insty:
SCIENCE: Study shows human brain able to discriminate syllables three months prior to birth.
President Hollywood and his gang of merry idiots at MSDNC love it!
The idea that Obama can cry wolf on his crisis tour to a nation of sheep is laughable.
He's tied himself to Obama's mast, and is roaring defiance at the building wind.
Oh B.S. I just pointed out Woodward's stunning and ironic lack of knowledge about law and presidential powers. He gets paid millions of dollars for this sort of quackery.
"I don't mean it literally. C'mon, it's funny. I mean, at least I think it is. Think for a second."
Yeah, yeah. Sometimes I make unfunny jokes, too. It happens.
Here's some low-hanging fruit:
"Personally, I'd dismantle the carrier, sell the parts and give the proceeds to workers."
Because nobody works on a carrier.
garage mahal said...
What happened to Woodward anyway? Even D+ journos are easily tearing apart his arguments.
Please cite the "law" Obama would break by sending an aircraft carrier to a different position.
Thanks in advance.
garage mahal said...
Oh B.S. I just pointed out Woodward's stunning and ironic lack of knowledge about law and presidential powers.
The fact that you actually believe you did speaks volumes about your intelligence.
garage mahal said...
Woodward referred to "some budget document", which also happens to be federal law.
Hey stupid shit:
Which part of this "federal law" prohibit the movement of the USS Truman?
Please cite the section.
Thanks in advance.
Please cite the "law" Obama would break by sending an aircraft carrier to a different position.
Nobody I'm aware of has ever said that sending an aircraft carrier somewhere would be breaking any laws.
garage mahal said...
Woodward is worried about a precious war ship and seems to be utterly disinterested how the sequester will effect regular people
Yes!!
Because those people who work on that ship aren't "regular"!
And remember, you support the troops too, you silly fat clown.
PS: Every federal agency, department, bureau, and office will have a higher funding level than when Obama was sworn in under sequestration.
You're a fucking joke.
We need to stop going from crisis to crisis. LOLOLOL
garage mahal said...
Nobody I'm aware of has ever said that sending an aircraft carrier somewhere would be breaking any laws.
Hysterical.
Earlier stupid shit said:
garage mahal said...
Woodward referred to "some budget document", which also happens to be federal law.
You can't make this stupid up, folks.
So we have:
Woodward: And so we now have the president going out because of this piece of paper and this agreement, I can’t do what I need to do to protect the country. - Note the "protect the country" is moving the USS Truman.
Fat Garagie: Woodward referred to "some budget document", which also happens to be federal law.
Me: Which part of this "federal law" prohibit the movement of the USS Truman?
Fat Garagie: durrrrrrrrrrr, huh?
Again, you can't make this level of stupid up, folks.
garage mahal said...Personally, I'd dismantle the carrier, sell the parts and give the proceeds to workers.
Garage espouses San Francisco values: "Fuck the Navy and get the hell out!"
Because those people who work on that ship aren't "regular"!
It was a joke, like your entire meaningless existence.
Listen up moron:
Woodward's ignorance was on display suggesting that a "budget document" could possibly hinder sending military assets somewhere. Like there are no constraints in a budget. The federal budget is a legal document.
"give the proceeds to the workers."
You mean Julia? The occupiers? Welfare moms?
Just who is a leftist referring to when he demands that military funds go to the "workers"?
The "workers" just got an effective pay cut on their latest paycheck.
garage mahal said...
Woodward's ignorance was on display suggesting that a "budget document" could possibly hinder sending military assets somewhere. Like there are no constraints in a budget.
Nobody said there are no constraints in a budget, you silly, fat idiot.
Never in the history of America has a budget "constraint" prevented the movement of miltary assets.
Not once.
Ever.
You could like get a fucking clue as to what Woodward is saying.
But you're too busy trying to make a semantic point, one which is arguing against something Woodward never said, to realize how stupid you look.
You could stop.
But you'll persist.
What "budget document"???
garage mahal said...
It was a joke, like your entire meaningless existence.
No, no it wasn't stupid shit.
You're a pathetic liar.
garage mahal said...
Personally, I'd dismantle the carrier, sell the parts and give the proceeds to workers.
I garage's perfect world we stop actually defending the country but we increase spending on defense department employees anyway. Is there a clearer admission he perceives government employment as a welfare program?
Garbage pail the liar is back! Thank goodness a certified liar is here.
Just wait for him to explain that being in communist in no way says you're in favor of governmental overthrow!
Here's his latest lie:
Like there are no constraints in a budget. The federal budget is a legal document.
---So was the Constitution till Chief Darkie got a hold of it.
Remember when the budget said Obama couldn't send a warship where he wanted?
NO?!?
It's because Garbage Pail is lying again!
Enjoy the decline, sheeple!
garage mahal said...
It was a joke, like your entire meaningless existence.
Yes but it was completely in character for you. Your style of humor would be like me saying "Personally, I'd fire all the State workers and hire non union replacements" Is that funny? Do you see my point?
You have descended into self-parody, and since your history suggests a lack of introspection, the "joke" sounds disingenuous.
Next year we are to bring the soldiers home
For lack of money, and it is all right.
Places they guarded, or kept orderly,
Must guard themselves, and keep themselves orderly.
We want the money for ourselves at home
Instead of working. And this is all right.
It's hard to say who wanted it to happen,
But now it's been decided nobody minds.
The places are a long way off, not here,
Which is all right, and from what we hear
The soldiers there only made trouble happen.
Next year we shall be easier in our minds.
Next year we shall be living in a country
That brought its soldiers home for lack of money.
The statues will be standing in the same
Tree-muffled squares, and look nearly the same.
Our children will not know it's a different country.
All we can hope to leave them now is money.
Except, wait, haha, by "money" we mean trillions of dollars of unsustainably exploding public debt!
garage mahal said...
Woodward's ignorance was on display suggesting that a "budget document" could possibly hinder sending military assets somewhere
Your ignorance is on display endlessly here, and you have really topped yourself with this silly diatribe of stupidity.
chickelit said...
Yes but it was completely in character for you
The little liar is pretending I was responding to his "dismantle the carrier" comment.
I was not. I even excerpted the comment I was responding to.
For him to respond "It was a joke" is really, really pathetic.
Woodward is campaigned out.
Nobody said there are no constraints in a budget
Except Woodward, in referencing a "budget document", you mindless bridge troll.
In your next sentence you say:
Never in the history of America has a budget "constraint" prevented the movement of miltary assets.
So, to recap, there are budget constraints, but they've never materialized. EVER!
LOL. Okay champ. Nice work as always.
It's the end of the world I tellya, a slight decrease in the increase in Federal spending is the end of the world!
Mortuary Bob is saying no President has ever been stopped from doing something because of a budget document.
If necessary, they found the funds someplace else (usually the discretionary allocations).
You've got it backwards, dude. Retreat while you can.
Hagar said...
What "budget document"???
In theory, the sequester agreement, but that's only a cut of 3% in future growth, rather than real spending (I know you know this).
If the cut were big enough, immediate enough, and ironclad enough, it might interfere with future deployments, but, as it's for the out years. Choom is blowing smoke in saying he can't send a carrier someplace because of the sequester.
Apparently, the White House has informed Woodward that he is going to regret this.
I wonder if the White House was involved in the White House's decision to threaten a reporter. Or was this decision made by a White House career official, such as, say, for example, the White House chef, who will now be sacked, go on unemployment, and shortly thereafter TV, deploring the draconian sequester cuts.
Wow, poor Manboobs is really flailing today.
I hope your daughter didn't inherit her intellectual traits from you, fatboy (not that her mother could have been that smart, but at least smart enough to leave you). Between that and the public school you no doubt subject her to, I predict another generation of the Mahal family not going to college.
How sad.
Every working person in America is getting 2% less in their paychecks and the motherfucking government cant spare 2% without screeching about the end of the world. Please.
Woodward is campaign pooped.
garage mahal said...
So, to recap, there are budget constraints, but they've never materialized. EVER!
Right, idiot, because that is totally like what I said.
Really, it is.
Do you ever get tired of being so silly & stupid?
garage mahal said...
Except Woodward, in referencing a "budget document", you mindless bridge troll.
Uh, I never said he didn't reference that or say that.
Can you read, or are you just in full froth at the mouth retard mode because your silly semantic point is now in tatters?
garage mahal said...
So, to recap, there are budget constraints, but they've never materialized. EVER!
Please point us to a singular time in the history of America where a budget constraint has led to the military not moving an assets or engaging in conflict.
Just one, stupid shit.
Note: your inability to respond to what I actually am saying here tells everyone all they need to know. Namely you're a fucking embarrassment.
President-Mom-Jeans said...
I hope your daughter didn't inherit her intellectual traits from you, fatboy
Oh you missed it when he was here singing the praises of ObamaCare because of his daughter's "pre-existing condition"
See, garagie makes so much money that he can't afford insurance for his diabetic daughter, so we all get to pay for her insurance.
Meanwhile, he trolls the Internet saying how much money he makes.
Isn't that nice?
"I don't mean it literally. C'mon, it's funny. I mean, at least I think it is. Think for a second."
Yeah, yeah. Sometimes I make unfunny jokes, too. It happens."
Any joke that has to be dissected is already dead.
Bob Woodward looks like Grampa Simpson --- now THAT's funny!!
Amartel said...
Apparently, the White House has informed Woodward that he is going to regret this.
First, He came for El Rushbo, and I did nothing.
Then, He came for Fox News and I did nothing.
Then, He came for mortuary Bob and I did...
Meanwhile, he trolls the Internet saying how much money he makes.
Nah I just have fun seeing you and the fake internet attorney President Moms Jeans get so angry over internet comments, and then I shove it in your face. Bad habit of mine I know. If anything, I'm paying for your insurance, and I can afford it!
Woodward is hijacking the conservative perspective on this issue so he can become the approved MSM spokesmodel and proceed to misrepresent and downplay it. And distance Obama.
Note that while he says that this sequestration scaremongering dance about the carrier is "madness" but on the other hand Obama would NEVER threaten a reporter.
[Which, in a way, is a good point: Obama is way too much of a wuss to do the job himself. He would have a nameless underpaid underling do it for him, then deny knowledge of it, then fire the underling.]
Sure you are Manboobs, sure you are.
Just another of those never went to college wealthy 1%ers, you are just like Bill Gates!
Wait, Bill Gates actually did go to college, he just dropped out.
I bet his daughter will make it past high school though. Oh, and he never had a failed marriage.
Hes not fat either. . .
I guess you aren't like Bill Gates at all.
The whole thing is stupid kabuki by Obama. The sequester for this year is less than the increase over last year. They keep putting out numbers that are for 10 years.
Of course there is no budget anyway so what does it matter, really? Can anyone spell irresponsible? Or better yet illegal? Why are there no consequencces here? (Stupid question.)
I think cutting things like "sensitivity training" at places like the USDA might could be on that "cutting block" right off.
You know what I find fascinating? Someones elect these people that someones think are the smartest amd bestest people in the world, and yet hose people can't figure out how to make cuts without cutting firemen, policemen and teachers righ toff the bat. (Or in this case soldiers, sailors and marines...)
Duh. Some of you here voted for these guys. They are lying liars out for themselves.
You deserve what you get.
The rest of us will innovate and lie low until the next election.
Would it impress you if Donna Brazile can't figure out why her health premiums just jumped up?
I think that is hilarious because at the end of the day when
"her" time in the limelight of the WH is over Donna Brazile is just a number in an insurance computer program. Not a big hotshot ... so it applied the same formula to her as it did everyone.
Hoot! Hooot!
The most unqualified President in history will try his best to make these slight reductions in spending increases hurt the average low information retard voter as much as possible.
Even when caught lying blatantly, the lapdog media will spin it as those mean old Republicans fault.
If they have to tear down Woodward to protect President Foodstamps, they will do so.
If anything, I'm paying for your insurance, and I can afford it!
I always knew you were a limousine liberal, garage, for all your efforts to portray yourself as a down home kind of guy who goes hunting in a pickup with his friends.
Er, is it really appropriate to use the plural form of "friend" when describing your acquaintances?
"Like there are no constraints in a budget. The federal budget is a legal document."
Maybe that's why the Senate won't pass one.
And I enjoy shoving in Garbage Pail's face that he is a massive liar.
He claimed communists do not believe in the overthrow of governments.
Fact.
Another fact: Garbage Pail is a liar. As are all leftists.
Enjoy the decline, dipshits!
He's not bluffing this time.
edutcher said...
Mortuary Bob is saying no President has ever been stopped from doing something because of a budget document.
If necessary, they found the funds someplace else (usually the discretionary allocations).
Shhhhhhhh, don't tell garage this.
It is too much fun watching him double and triple down on stupid.
Hey, remember when Clinton wanted to bomb Saddam's WMD factories but said that Operation Desert Fox wasn't outlined in the FY '99 budget so there won't be any Operation Desert Fox?
Me too!
garage mahal said...
If anything, I'm paying for your insurance, and I can afford it!
Which is why you were here applauding ObamaCare and whining about "pre-existing conditions"
Rich people do that all the time.
Really.
Wait, Bill Gates actually did go to college, he just dropped out.
Which is what I imagine happened to you. Except Gates is smart and creative, and you're just a run of the mill loser who posts bitter internet comments toward people you're envious of. Embrace the suck Jeans, I don't think this gets any getting any better for you.
We love our freedom of the press because we say we understand how dangerous a government can be without that check on it. Then we accept a press that makes the freedom of the press a useless protection. This is a very dangerous weakness we have developed. I hope something is done about it before it's too late.
garage mahal ...
and you're just a run of the mill loser who posts bitter internet comments toward people you're envious of.
Pot-Kettle.
Oh boy. Woody sure won't be invited to the big squirt gun fight at the next Biden weenie roast.
I'm a college drop out. In fact, I'm a serial dropper outer. Or is that "cereal". Apparently, I dropped out too soon and too often, but they never got around to that course on how to cook road kill, so I kept getting bored.
I think Barry's on the phone to get Woodward's next flight re-routed through Chicago, where Rahmbo can clean up the loose ends. Hey, a random shooting can happen to anyone in Dem-dominated gun-outlawed Chicago.
Shorter Woodie:
"Whether we gots money or not we should just make war for the hell of it!!"
He essentially proves Ron Paul's point.
Why the hell do we even need that aircraft carrier over there?
Reagan, Clinton, Bush and Obama have done a lot of stupid shit with our military. Cutting it wouldn't be such a bad idea.
Someday Baggie might actually learn to love freedom of thought.
I think it's really important to pass a budget. For the Republicans' sake, primarily. I mean, they are so good at sticking to the goals of a budget, and taking the idea of budgeting seriously, that the Congress dishonors the long legacy of sensible Republican budgeting by not passing one.
Carl Bernstein says otherwise so it cancels out.
I see Ritmo has landed with non-sequiturs in tow.
When there's nothing left to say, Ritmo can be counted upon to say it badly.
The Obama white house isnt
happy when the press goes off script.
Whatever you say, Ed.
To Garage I guess the only option is to recall air craft carriers.THere is no way for Obama to make any cuts other than those that directly impact our overseas operations. Right.
Just for the record, the republicans submitted not one but two alternatives to the sequestration,that would cut things in a more balanced way. So,why don't the Dems offer alternatives to the sequestration?
Hmmm, garage? Why don't they pass a budget for 4+ years? Hmmm Garage?
garage mahal boasts: If anything, I'm paying for your insurance, and I can afford it!
Heh
Every poor bastard that works for someone else had his pay shaved by 2% and the sky hasnt fallen. But suggest the Federal govt shrink by 2% and we get hysteria. From the "executive" branch. Nice.
Ritmo wrote:
I think it's really important to pass a budget. For the Republicans' sake, primarily. I mean, they are so good at sticking to the goals of a budget, and taking the idea of budgeting seriously, that the Congress dishonors the long legacy of sensible Republican budgeting by not passing one.
I get it the repubs are bad for not sticking to a budget therefore dems don't even have to pass a budget at all. If your side can't even do the most basic thing required of them under law, don't go grousing about the other sides lack of ability to stick to a budget. You have to submit one before you can gripe about the other sides malfeasance.
And that goes for the sequestration too. Woodward pwned Obama and pointed out that he is lying about the sequestration and demagoging the idea that these cuts are going to force him to recall air craft carriers. But, in fact Obama has been doing this for his entire presidency.
He and the dems, are incapable of actually addressing spending in Washington. It's about this time that the Obamabots start hyperventillating. The more of a nerve that gets pinched the more outraged they become. So you see Ellison hyperventilating on Hannity's show, and you watch Garage Mahal essentially shove his head up his own ass.
It is a smidge bracing to hear a revered, old-guard non-conservative journo say about Obama: "That's a kind of madness I haven't seen in a long time."
About. Fucking. Time.
Still waiting to hear about that whatever-it-was Ken Mehlman is supposed to have done.
I get it the repubs are bad for not sticking to a budget therefore dems don't even have to pass a budget at all.
Only Repubs are arrogant enough to believe that they get instant credibility on things they've never done right before simply by virtue of being out of power.
Perhaps they think that's a show of humility or something. Lack of humility as a way to demonstrate credibility. That's Republicans for you.
garage mahal said...
If anything, I'm paying for your insurance, and I can afford it!
Which is why you were here applauding ObamaCare and whining about "pre-existing conditions"
Rich people do that all the time.
Really.
Another thing that rich people do all the time: eating roadkill for dinner. Yep, garage is a 1%er, no doubt about it. He fits the profile perfectly.
Maybe Woody will get invited to the squirt gun fight, but Candy Crowley's Super Soaker will be mysteriously and accidentally switched with a Secret Service agent's Sig Sauer, and, well, shit happens; what difference at this point will it make?
O Ritmo Segundo said...
I get it the repubs are bad for not sticking to a budget therefore dems don't even have to pass a budget at all.
Only Repubs are arrogant enough to believe that they get instant credibility on things they've never done right before simply by virtue of being out of power.
Never?
Ever?
From Honest Abe on?
Prove it.
Michael said...
Every poor bastard that works for someone else had his pay shaved by 2% and the sky hasnt fallen. But suggest the Federal govt shrink by 2% and we get hysteria. From the "executive" branch. Nice. <--this
Bob best watch his back. Do drones make a noise before they hit?
Yep, jr. Abraham Lincoln is the epitome of today's Republican party. I mean, so many issues, aims and goals that they have in common.
Next thing you know, you'll be telling me that Teddy Roosevelt was a model for today's Republicans, with his emphasis on product/worker safety, support for labor, and other progressive ideals.
Hell, even Ronnie Reagan wasn't crazy enough for today's Republicans, having compromised on taxes.
Bob best watch his back. Do drones make a noise before they hit?
Yep, garage is a 1%er, no doubt about it. He fits the profile perfectly.
I certainly never made that claim that I'm rich or a 1%-er. I'm definitely not. I just made a reasonable bet that I make a lot more money than the stupid cocksuckers that follow me around on this board do.
Just bought a '78 Impala - runs decent but has a tappet knock ($150) , a torn seat cover ($100), cracked windsheild ($125).
Decent rims and good tread on the tires.
Could use a paint job ($500)
But With the money I have left in my budget I buy $1000 22"'s! Now that's how we roll! That thing's bitchin"!
...Hold that up to a mirror and see the truth...
Conservation, too. A big Republilcan no-no.
They would have drummed him right out of their religious clique if he ran nowadays.
"Oh. My. God. I'm just now discovering that our centrist president is perhaps a smidge aggressively ultra left. Madness! Ah wuz misled!! Oh, would that someone had told me!!!"
No. He's a centrist. Center right, actually. You weren't misled.
Good headline and pic on Drudge about this.
Fuck all of them, from Reagan through Obama. And Woodward, too.
I think it would be hilarious if Republicans just came right out and admitted what they believe with a motto such as:
Political power and the presidency! We're just plain entitled to it, God dammit!
O Ritmo wrote:
Only Repubs are arrogant enough to believe that they get instant credibility on things they've never done right before simply by virtue of being out of power.
As edutcher asked "Never"?
I suggest that perhaps your historical frame of reference begins and ends with George Bush.
But if we're talking short term history, lets remember that republicans have yet to pass a budget in 4 years while in power. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
Back when Bush was in charge Obama was wailing about how Bush's spending was unpatriotic. And yet he's gone leagues beyond what Bush ever dreamed of in terms of his spending.
And you lefties gave Obama instant credibility when uttering those words, also on things they've never done right before simply by virtue of being out of power.
Just like Obama got his Nobel Peace Prize not based on things done right, but simply by virtue of being out of power.(ie it was
really a reaction to Bush)
Sorry that should say DEMOCRATS have yet to pass a budget in 4 years while in power. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
I realize back upthread I made the mistake of referring to Reagan as "Ronnie", instead of by his given name.
St. Reagan.
St. Reagan, the Great Tax Compromiser.
I suggest that perhaps your historical frame of reference begins and ends with George Bush.
Actually even with Ronnie and Nixon things were a bit dicey. But at least Nixon was progressive enough to pass that great job-killing boondoggle known as the "EPA" and even St. Reagan didn't believe that every tax increase was a religious abomination. But that was before every budgeting move by the Republican party was overseen to a veto by a man with a pansy voice named "Grover".
And an even more effeminate name.
I mean, seriously. The Republican party and its policy is effectively run by a little douche named after a fucking Sesame Street character.
What a joke.
Actually even with Ronnie and Nixon things were a bit dicey. But at least Nixon was progressive enough to pass that great job-killing boondoggle known as the "EPA" and even St. Reagan didn't believe that every tax increase was a religious abomination.
We're not talking about taxation, we're talking about spending. Sequestration is about cutting spending.
And Obama already got a tax hike. Are you not aware of that?
Back when Bush was in charge Obama was wailing about how Bush's spending was unpatriotic. And yet he's gone leagues beyond what Bush ever dreamed of in terms of his spending.
Get back in power so that you can implement a third economic disaster (including the epic Republican-fail known as "The Great Depression") and we'll have to come in and spend even more to get out of it.
Hell, you're even happy to keep unemployment artificially 1.5 - 2% higher so that you can pretend to save more money by laying off state and municipal workers - the first time you've voted to do so in a recovery. You douches simply have no credibility. Just a bunch of arrogant ideologues with a record of nothing more outstanding than a global depression, a global recession, and hatred for the black guy who's presiding over the fixing-up of your messes. Only a fuckface complains that someone else isn't doing a good enough job fixing the mess that HE made. It's like a prisoner complaining that the cops didn't do a good enough job of keeping him from robing the bank. TOTAL CREDIBILITY FAIL FOR GENERATIONS NO WONDER THE REPUBES WERE WORRIED ABOUT LONG-TERM MINORITY STATUS HERE IT COMES! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! POSEURS!!
Sequestration is about cutting spending.
Good. Let Obama complain about the auto-spending cuts 50% of which rightly target the military industrial complex even though it needs to be done. Talking out of both sides of one's mouth is something that Republicans know a lot about so far be it from them to complain when Obama does it. To them, it's just good politics to complain about something and blame others for it despite it needing to be done. No one doesn't see right through you self-righteous, arrogantly ignorant douches anymore.
Why does Obama's "balanced approach" that supposedly requires tax hikes and spending cuts never actually involved spending cuts?
"But at least Nixon was progressive enough to pass that great job-killing boondoggle known as the "EPA" and even St. Reagan didn't believe that every tax increase was a religious abomination. But that was before every budgeting move by the Republican party was overseen to a veto by a man with a pansy voice named "Grover"".
Again, this gets back to the fact that REPUBLICANS HAVE PASSED A BUDGET!!! Stop talking about pansies in the republican party when your side can't even do the most basic thing required by them by law.
Every budgeting move. Why don't hte democrats have ANY budgeting move?
Also, you hold republicans to account for not wanting taxes to be raised and liken it to a religious abomination.
I think what you are really referring to are democrats and spending cuts.
Again, this gets back to the fact that REPUBLICANS HAVE PASSED A BUDGET!!!
No one and their mother the fuck cares. Go ask for praise for doing so from your unelected Sesame Street leader Grover.
No one cares.
Titmouse.. Haha autocorrect interprets Ritmo as Titmouse. Spot on!
Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you, the unelected leader of the Republican party!
He just needs to work on the voice a little more.
Ritmo is such a dumb,stupid fuck. I never said that before (when using my IPad).
My goodness, spending cuts send democrats off the deep end. I like it.
Shut the fuck up AJ! This doesn't concern you!
This is all I've got to say to AJ
Good. Let Obama complain about the auto-spending cuts 50% of which rightly target the military industrial complex even though it needs to be done. Talking out of both sides of one's mouth is something that Republicans know a lot about so far be it from them to complain when Obama does it. To them, it's just good politics to complain about something and blame others for it despite it needing to be done. No one doesn't see right through you self-righteous, arrogantly ignorant douches anymore.
I wouldn't talk about self righteous douches if I were you. Obama as part of the deal to get the debt ceiling raised proposed the sequester. Then tried to demagogue republicans and say that it was them that suggested it. Woodward had to come out and say "Sorry, you're lying". And now we are getting the usual pablum from you.
As I mentioned earlier, I thought democrats liked the idea of military cuts. So then why are all the dems going on the news programs and saying this will mean drastic things to the military?
He should own that he suggested this and that he has offered no alternatives to it being passed (other than, we need to raise taxes AGAIN).
Obama got his tax hike not even two months ago. Now it's time for cutting. If he doesn't like the cuts in the sequester THAT HE AND HIS ADMINISTRATION suggested, then pick and choose from the cuts suggested by the repubs.
Or, here's an idea. Why don't the dems offer an alternative of their own for the sequester.
O Ritmo wrote:
No one and their mother the fuck cares. Go ask for praise for doing so from your unelected Sesame Street leader Grover.
No one cares.
I know you dont' care. Because you are an utter hack and complete apologist for this administration. If this were the repubs not passing a budget for four years you certainly would care.
Again, because you are an utter hack and complete apologist for this administration.
The fact that you don't care only shows how your entire argument is a sham and you are arguing in bad faith.
Now why don't you crawl back under your rock and die already?
Ritmo exploded: Get back in power so that you can implement a third economic disaster (including the epic Republican-fail known as "The Great Depression") and we'll have to come in and spend even more to get out of it.
Hell, you're even happy to keep unemployment artificially 1.5 - 2% higher so that you can pretend to save more money by laying off state and municipal workers - the first time you've voted to do so in a recovery. You douches simply have no credibility. Just a bunch of arrogant ideologues with a record of nothing more outstanding than a global depression, a global recession, and hatred for the black guy who's presiding over the fixing-up of your messes. Only a fuckface complains that someone else isn't doing a good enough job fixing the mess that HE made. It's like a prisoner complaining that the cops didn't do a good enough job of keeping him from robing the bank. TOTAL CREDIBILITY FAIL FOR GENERATIONS NO WONDER THE REPUBES WERE WORRIED ABOUT LONG-TERM MINORITY STATUS HERE IT COMES! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! POSEURS!!
No response. I just wanted to memorialize that one (ESPECIALLY THE ALL CAPS STUFF) and bookmark it: "the time Ritmo lost it."
O Ritmo Segundo said...
I think it would be hilarious if Republicans just came right out and admitted what they believe with a motto such as:
Political power and the presidency! We're just plain entitled to it, God dammit!
Too late. The Demos and the Lefties took it years ago.
Ritmo's losing so he starts projecting.
Again, this gets back to the fact that REPUBLICANS HAVE PASSED A BUDGET!!!
No one and their mother the fuck cares. Go ask for praise for doing so from your unelected Sesame Street leader Grover.
Not to mention screeching.
If nobody cared, Ritmo wouldn't be throwing a hissy fit.
Anybody have a spare vibrator? That's the been the recommended treatment for hysteria.
The dems don't give an alternative because
a) they think they can make political hay from it and
b) they want it since they know it;s needed and don't have to accept personal responsibility.
Truth is the cuts should be well over 10% and everyone in Washington knows it, but nobody has any balls there.
jr565 tells Ritmo: Because you are an utter hack and complete apologist for this administration.
Yes, I've noticed this too and wondered how such an otherwise intelligent person can be so personally invested in this President. There must be something at stake for him that I can't put my finger on.
No one and their mother the fuck cares (about passing a budget)
Aren't they required to pass a budget by law?
Here's some douchebaggery on display if you want to talk about douchebaggery:
Let’s set party interests aside, and work to pass a budget that replaces reckless cuts with smart savings and wise investments in our future....” (President Obama, State of the Union Address, February 12, 2013)
Only a few days ago, Obama is calling for passing a budget. Is he not aware that his side hasn't done so for his entire presidency? That he's submitted a late budget four times already, the most of any president?
That he talks about replacing reckless cuts with smart savings but that neither he nor his compadres in the senate have actually offered an alternative to the sequester.
He talks about cuttnig loopholes. That's all well and good to reform the tax code but not to add to spending. Does Obama think cutting loophose amounts to savings? That's revenue increases not savings. Yet more spending.
Your side, Ritmo doesn't care that he is talking out of his ass on this and has been doing so for the entirety of his non existent recovery.
Maybe lefties are growing a bit anxious about the drip-drip-drip of bad PR the Obama team has been getting of late.
Hagel has been shown to be an obvious incompetent and semi-nutcase, Kerry is already starting to remind people why he didn't beat Bush in 2004, health care cost rises are starting to kick in, etc. And now this.
Bob Woodward, old and worn as he is, is still one of the guys who broke Watergate and so has credibility among even those not usually willing to question Obama.
Of course, he could cave and start groveling tomorrow.
No response. I just wanted to memorialize that one (ESPECIALLY THE ALL CAPS STUFF) and bookmark it: "the time Ritmo lost it."
Eh. Did Ritmo ever have it? Not that I recall.
Just think we get to go through this again in about a month when the debt cieling theater comes up. Hopefully the government will be shut down for six months.
The Republican record on balancing budgets and keeping spending under control is indeed worse than mediocre: a C- at best, even on a generous grading scale. Saying that Republicans are not allowed to criticize Obama's record on the same is still stupid.
Look at it this way. If Chris Christie were to call someone (besides himself) fat, we would normally laugh and point and make fun of him as a hypocrite. However, if we're talking about one of those 800-pound guys who hasn't left his bedroom or his bed in years because he's too fat to fit through the door and too heavy to get out of bed, who can't be taken to the hospital for treatment without a crane to move him and a wrecking crew to take the wall off his bedroom, well, even Chris Christie is entitled to call that guy 'fat'.
There's a fundamental difference between just plain 'fat' but still able to function as a normal human being (Christie) and monstrously obese and utterly helpless (the 800-pound man). Of course, the difference in scale between Obama's deficits and Reagan's or Bush's or any other president's is even larger than the 800/350 ratio in my analogy.
"Fuck all of them, from Reagan through Obama. And Woodward, too."
I'm sorry to hear you say that. I know if I were in your position I would feel the same way, and perhaps not be as tactful and wise as yourself, as I haven't been many times in the past.
In the future may things improve.
Yes, I've noticed this too and wondered how such an otherwise intelligent person can be so personally invested in this President. There must be something at stake for him that I can't put my finger on.
I dunno... Maybe the fact that I'm not too autistic to realize what an utter disaster it would be to let anyone less adept at allowing the Republicans to fall apart anywhere near the presidency?
Anyway, before I had to take leave, you missed my funnier side - with a tribute to The Leader of Republican Policy and a rebuke to AJ Lynch.
Enjoy!
Yes, it was fun getting that animated. The Republicans are a joke and it's astounding that so many of y'all are too much a bunch of blind partisans to realize why. Oh well, I've done my best to explain. The remaining decades in the political wilderness will be up to y'all to use as you wish. The typical navel gazing might help you through it, though.
Thank you for your contribution, everyone.
And you know what?
Thanks again, because I can.
The Nuggets are very interesting.
The NBA is fascinating.
What a great country, thank God.
Yes, I've noticed this too and wondered how such an otherwise intelligent person can be so personally invested in this President. There must be something at stake for him that I can't put my finger on.
Just a guess. His livelyhood depends on continued government spending?
Get back in power so that you can implement a third economic disaster (including the epic Republican-fail known as "The Great Depression")
If the grand prize were $40,000,000 you couldn't articlate, factually, a single Republican policy that led to the economic downturn that started in 2008.
It is hysterical that garagie passed the full frothing at the mouth retard baton to ritty.
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