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But I recall her... as the young woman in one of the most horrid and controversial commercials ever shown on U.S. television. The Nike spot, a dozen years ago, showed her being chased out of her house in the dark woods — stripped to her bra — by a maniac with a chain saw. Running through the woods, she finally outdistances him thanks to her Nikes. Protests centered on exploitation of violence against women (especially one half-naked) and it was soon pulled.
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Well isn't that special.
I likt the Nike ad. Clever. Too bad the schoolmarms won out.
Awesome. Just awesome.
Edgy. The only surprise is that Nike was surprised by the reaction from those quick to infer the worst of sexist motives from ambiguous evidence.
I would make a large wager, however, that there were women ad and marketing execs who saw, and approved and indeed affirmatively endorsed, this ad before it was released.
Protests centered on exploitation of violence against women (especially one half-naked) and it was soon pulled.
Wasn't that an exploitation of Hollywood's exploitation of violence against women?
Why not do something serious, like serious goalie mask and chain saw control legislation?
To get to the inference that this ad endorses violence against women, you have to completely ignore the more obvious message of the ad — that powerful, self-sufficient, fit, athletic women who don't panic can defeat and frustrate the most horrific and stereotypical male attacker.
Susan Favor Hamilton's character wins. She turns the movie cliche they're mocking — of the beautiful but helpless coed slaughtered on Friday the 13th — upside down.
The women execs who surely signed off on this must have thought they had joined the club of those who can't win for losing.
I liked the ad. I guess I'm not socially aware enough to be offended.
Suzy saved herself in the Nike ad given the athletic strength and endurance she had built up through hard work and determination.
No wonder Leftists hated it. Obama and Elizabeth Warren especially hated it. "You didn't build that body!" they would shout at the TV screen. Tears flowed.
Would this ad be an endorsement of violence against men if the actor had a Y-chromosome and was stripped to running shorts? Or is this a rule that only applies to sports bras and tits?
What is the difference between a one minute commercial produced by Nike and and a one and a half hour "commercial" produced by Hollywood or an independent interest?
There must be a discernible basis for maintaining a separate and unequal standard, or perhaps it is simply selective and motivated by political, economic, and social profit. Capital is not constrained to money or finance. It is realized in diverse forms.
In the administration of justice, courts will sometimes imply reasonable terms when the parties' written statements are silent regarding those terms.
But there's a rule of judicial decision which cautions never to imply that the parties intended a particular unstated term when they've actually made a clear and unambiguous statement of a contrary intention.
Nike's ad isn't silent on the question of violence against women. It expressly and overtly takes a position: Fit women can live longer and do better in a world in which sometimes one can indeed save one's life by running fast and far. They used a cliché from a series of horror movies to reinforce the message that the guy with the chain saw is a bad guy, not a hero.
It's unfair and unjustifiable to imply that Nike's secret, covert intention is the opposite of its obvious, overt message unless you have other compelling evidence to back that up. Has Nike been hanging out around prison exits, waiting for sexual predators to be released in order to give them chainsaws and hockey masks?
Maybe they're really trying to sell more sports bras to women who would like to be more fit. Duh.
Terrific ad.
I must admit, however, that I am completely perplexed as to why any man would pay $600 an hour for poon tang. When hairless, as is 100% certain to be the case here, it all looks the same.
Peter
Her husband was not supportive of her $600/pop lifestyle. Call me perplexed(sarc -just in case).
I happened to like that ad. It was, IMO, a very effective ad that should have run longer.
People under threat should have a fight or flight option. But HAVING that option assumes the victim is faster and fitter than the attacker.
Even liberals moaning over a dead thug like Trayvon Martin say the "Right Thing To Do" is run rather than shoot the thug. (When they are not insisting that we all must obey without question the advise given by any government official by phone or TV as tantamount to binding law.)
But Zimmerman outrunning thug Trayvon?
He was no athlete.
No flight option......
And liberals and feminists would have applauded a totally unrealistic ad of the phony "empowered woman" surrounded by 8 chain saw and axes and sword-bearing Jasons twice her size - methodically showing Girl Power!! by kicking and punching them all into submission...
I would not pay $600 for sex. I wouldn't even pay $60 for it. Except in divorce court, I have never paid more than $10 for it.
If it flys, floats, or fucks, rent, don't buy.
I don't really live by that. I got rid of my airplanes but I still have two boats, a canoe, and a wife.
Wow, what whiners.
It was over the top horror movie ridiculous, like you're going to be chased by a guy in a mask with a chain saw.
OTOH, women routinely cripple themselves by wearing clothes and particularly shoes that are as bad as having your feet bound. Either you've got heels you can't run in, or slippery flip-flop sandals you can't run in and also can't kick anyone with. Not smart. Sure, Milla Jovovich outruns fast zombies on motorcycles while wearing 4 inch heels but girls... that's a movie.
" Or is this a rule that only applies to sports bras and tits?"
I think so.
Plus it was a sports bra. It's acceptable to work out in those in public.
Suzy runs the zombies of this world into the ground. The Julia's feed them.
NB: If you are into chain saw raping, don't try to catch a distance runner. Your saw's gas tank will run out first.
But it would have made a perfect Global Warmist ad, since all Scientists agree that Chain saw rape is caused by an increase in global temperature.
I thought that the chainsaw guy wheezing like he was going to keel over at the end was a nice touch. Yeah, the girl will live longer if she "sports" but so will big fat guys with bad hearts.
She's hardly half-naked.
A better ad would be to have her outrun him to the gun room, pick up Daddy's .45, and ask the creep, "I outran you. Can you outrun a bullet?".
The book and movie rights to her story will dwarf the penny ante $600 per hour she made hooking and, for that matter, the money she made appearing in this commercial....I can't wait to find out what the moral of this story is.
Darrell said...
"Suzy runs the zombies of this world into the ground. The Julia's feed them."
So true.
And, pace Meade on the Isthmus forum re: "whores," I much prefer the Suzy Favor Hamilton variety to the Julia's of the world.
Runners don't strike me as prostitute material. Gymnasts, maybe.
So, I question that she was earning top dolllar.
If Clinton were still in office, I'd ask him for a Federal grant so that I could go for the "boyfriend experience."
It's a good ad. To find fault with it, you really have to crank up your stupid dial -- past "psychic hotline caller" all the way up to "writer for feminist website."
If you knew Suzy . . . .
" ken in sc said...
I would not pay $600 for sex. I wouldn't even pay $60 for it. Except in divorce court, I have never paid more than $10 for it. "
Does that include dinner ?
$600 an hour seems fair. What's her price for 5 minutes ?
Me-ow. Maybe not $600 worth of hotness, but. . . . .
If you're going to attack and dismember a helpless victim with a saw, a cordless reciprocating saw would be a much more effective choice than a chainsaw.
Peter
Battery life could be an issue with the cordless reciprocating saw. But a heck of a lot easier to carry while in hot pursuit. Of course, it does not emit the threatening noise of 2 cycle chain saw.
If you're going to attack and dismember a helpless victim with a saw, a cordless reciprocating saw would be a much more effective choice than a chainsaw.
No, it wouldn't. Not even close. You break the reciprocating saw blade with a miss or two, most likely. Unless you touch rock or concrete, the chain saw doesn't have that problem. And even a dull blade will tear away skin and flesh.
Better stick to the hair comments.
And btw, runners I have known leave hair to avoid friction rashes and burning from clothing/built up heat/perspiration. I don't know if it's universal--they won't let me check.
Chain Saw Rape sounds too messy. And what man wants to get his phallus out in one hand while holding a hard to handle chain saw whirling away in the other hand.
But it's definitely rape-rape...or maybe even rape-rape-rape.
I had been thinking table saw. But my wood shop teacher friend tells they now come equipped with sensors to shut down instantaneously when it senses fluid. Not good for this application.
http://www.sawstop.com/how-it-works/videos/
The Nike ad was good and had a GREAT punchline.
What's this about her being only 5'4"???
I saw her on the sidelines at Camp Randall and she looked 5'10" if an inch! She looks tall in the photos of her running, too.
Milwaukee radio was asking if she could 'come back from this' ala Tiger Woods (no relation) and to that I say this:
I forget who -Dos Passos? FS Fitzgerald? - said that 'There are NO 'Second Acts' in American life' to which I respond: Bullshaite. There is NOTHING BUT 'second acts'!
People who should have disappeared from the public eye for their failings and lies - the Kardasians, Obama, Pee Wee Herman - NEVER go away.
I'm sure that Suzie will get a book deal and hit the talkshow circuit sooner rather than later.
However she has to realize that EVERY man looking at her will being wondering if she was really as good in bed as her reviews said she was.
And how she lives knowing that I have no idea.
Over/under on her suicide in the next five years?
What I wonder about is the advice she sought and was given before she made the open admission. I mean, denying the story, or ignoring it (like Alan West did when his letter to his wife was published about 2 weeks before the election), was a viable option. She had to know that the motivational speaker/appearance money gig was 100% gone after she addressed this.
Wonder if Suzy got her start in the Olympic Village Fuck-Fest?
Oh well , $600 for a BJ from an Olympian seems like a fair trade.
More despicable is the intentional falling down when it was clear she was beat. What a coward/selfish bitch. How about thinking about all those SHE beat over the years, who finished THEIR races anyway with her victory in their faces.
Comes time for a turnabout and she cheats them of it. Shameful.
The thing is, the chainsaw is as dangerous for the murderer as it is for the victim. The victim is free of it. The murderer is burdened with it, and it's the sort of thing that one wrong move
in the speckled light, night time but back-it, chiaroscuro contrast, confusion, incomplete outlines and silhouettes.
with all kind of crap on the ground all around where women usually twist an ankle
in the fog
the heroine fails to pick up anything to toss at her attacker, to trip him, or confuse him. She could easily get him to cut himself by getting him to fumble with the thing. ¿Remember your mum insisting DON'T YOU RUN THROUGH THIS HOUSE WITH THAT CHAINSAW ON YOU TURN THAT THING OFF RIGHT NOW! <-- Punctuation © by LEM
I saw the commercial a few times before it got pulled. I guess the point is that young women menaced by an attacker are not supposed to take any action. Don't run. Don't fight back. Accept your victimhood.
It gives people a chance to emote all over your coffin at your funeral.
Glad the message is spreading that women should take action, run if you can, fight back if you can't. I would love to live in a society where you could tell a would-be rapist by who has had his nuts shot off.
If you're going to attack and dismember a helpless victim with a saw, a cordless reciprocating saw would be a much more effective choice than a chainsaw.
No, it wouldn't. Not even close. You break the reciprocating saw blade with a miss or two, most likely. Unless you touch rock or concrete, the chain saw doesn't have that problem. And even a dull blade will tear away skin and flesh.
Have you see some of the blades available for reciprocating saws? You can get ones designed for heavy demolition work that will cut right through nails. Some even can be used as substitutes for light-duty chainsaws, able to cut through trees as much as 10 inches in diameter.
Peter
Love the add, it really drives home the fact that you live longer if you exercise. The fit gal out running the winded perp is awesome.
Darrell said...
"If you're going to attack and dismember a helpless victim with a saw, a cordless reciprocating saw would be a much more effective choice than a chainsaw.
No, it wouldn't. Not even close. You break the reciprocating saw blade with a miss or two, most likely."
I use a reciprocating saw, aka sawsall, a lot and have never had a wood blade break on me, they bend first. I then bend them back to kinda original shape and they still work fine. When I am cutting the roots of a small stump, I use the sawsall instead of my chain saw to keep the chain from getting gritty. They call them sawsalls because you can use them for all kinds of sawing, including carpentry if need be.
Sure it will Peter. I use them. But twist the blade just a lit bit and it snaps. It's only strong with proper force applied in the right axis. Plus it doesn't cut that fast and it leaves a small kerf--easy for the blade to get stuck and twist when you're getting it out. Partial chain saw cuts don't have the same problem.
Haven't you guys seen a Chain Saw Massacre picture? You miss the victim and slice through a heavy chair. You miss the victim again and saw through the dining room table. Tv next. Etc., etc.
Try doing that with a Milwaukee Sawzall on the fly.
Darrell,
I've bent wood blades (especially the really long blades) on sawsalls at weird angles many, many times while doing yard work on hard to reach stuff and I have never had a wood blade snap. Metal blades are probably a lot harder and more likely to snap but I've had zero problems with wood blades snapping on a sawsall. Maybe it depends on what kind of blades you buy but I rarely buy a blade because they last so long.
Doesn't matter what I think of that commercial.
I will say this.
"JUST DO IT!"
Really?
"Hey diddle diddle,
The Cat and the fiddle,
The Cow jumped over the moon,
The little Dog laughed to see such sport,
And the Dish ran away with the Spoon"
Soon enough, we are eating with our hands, and not long thereafter, we are eating each other.
"JUST DO IT!"
One of the greatest ad campaign memes of all time.
What we need to ask ourselves is "Who determines the metrics?"
The Bi-Metal blades can be bent by design. So you really think chasing someone with a severely bent recip blade flapping in the breeze is more menacing than a chain saw? OK. Ever concede a point? Now's about the time.
The speed that the gal used to escape the perp with a chain saw reminds me that modern man is built for speed compared to Neanderthals, who were built for strength.
Modern humans could hunt with light spears thrown with spear throwers so they could use their speed to stay at a safe distance from their quarry while retaining their ability to attack.
Neanderthals were much slower than modern humans and did not use spear throwers and had to get very close to their prey to kill it, thus putting the Neanderthals at serious risk.
In a fight between modern humans and Neanderthals, the humans could have used their speed to outrun the Neanderthals and attack them from a distance with spears thrown by spear throwers.
Darrell,
I am not participating in the discussion of what is the best weapon to use when attacking somebody.
You claimed that on a Sawsall if you "twist the blade just a lit bit and it snaps".
I just pointed out that you are incorrect, that wood blades on a sawsall are quite flexible (just like old time hand saws for wood are quite flexible) and actually hard to break.
You actually prove that I am correct with your comment "The Bi-Metal blades can be bent by design" so I don't know why you would ask me to concede that I am wrong.
Girls laugh when your blade droops like that. Then you have to run while they taunt you with "Can't keep it up, big guy?"
You conceded your own point. I had my first recip saw in the early 1970s, how about you? Now when did bi-metal blades hit the market? The 1980s sometime. Now factor in cutting heavy overstuffed chairs in two and dining room tables.
A sawsall blade that is "droopy" is obviously flexible which, again, proves that you were wrong to claim that sawsall blades break easily.
Personal attacks persuade nobody, they just make it obvious that you can't argue the facts.
It is unbelievable that you have been using sawsalls for decades and did not realize that they can be used with flexible blades.
Modern humans could hunt with light spears thrown with spear throwers so they could use their speed to stay at a safe distance from their quarry while retaining their ability to attack.
Neanderthals were much slower than modern humans and did not use spear throwers and had to get very close to their prey to kill it, thus putting the Neanderthals at serious risk.
On the other hand, until very recent years the Masai of East Africa hunted lions with heavy spears that were thrust rather than thrown.
Peter
I had never heard of her before this incident. Still don't care.
Peter said,
"On the other hand, until very recent years the Masai of East Africa hunted lions with heavy spears that were thrust rather than thrown."
Sounds pretty challenging.
What was the original suppostion, Steve? How about "A cordless reciprocating saw would make a better choice of a weapon than a gas-powered chain saw for a maniac killer." Think you made the case? When I was actualy doing construction work with a Sawzall, bi-metal blades were too expensive, so everyone used the regular multi blades that were hardened--and brittle. Bi-metal blades can bend. So much so, that you can't straighten it out to use to finish the job--you can get a bulge where it first bent. Brittle or droopy, maniacs prefer chain saws. You bi-guys are so touchy!
Darrell,
I repeat, I have not participated and am not participating in the discussion about which weapon is best for attacking people.
I did not get into the discussion until you said that sawsalls blades break easily because I know from personal experience that sawsall blades to cut wood are very flexible. It was obvious that you must not have experience with those blades or you would not have claimed that sawsall blades break easily (some do, some don't).
Don't know why you have to end your comment with another insult and claiming that I am touchy; you are the one throwing out the personal insults, not me.
Nike had a lot of weird commercials that year. Lance Armstrong had one with a dying elephant or something that he saves by giving him mouth to mouth.
Actually, I thought the ads were cleverm just to ostrange to be very effective.
I think it's wonderful that we live in a country where Suzy can [mostly] make these choices as could Nike.
Unfortunately, I see a great effort by many to destroy that freedom. The powerful are afraid of free speech and freedom in general.
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Women are cheating all over the place, nowadays! (Leann Rimes, Coco/IceT, Kristen Stewart, Suzy Favor Hamilton the Olympian & Vegas call girl, Rita Ora/Kardashian, Petraeus women).
My latest book, "I Steal Wives: A serial adulterer reveals the REAL reasons more and more 'happily married' women are cheating" is a powerful look at this EXPLOSIVE topic of female infidelity. And the REAL reasons aren't the typical blather you hear on talk-TV or read in the SECOND-HAND information of some psychologist's self-help book. It’s now trending in the top 1% of books selling on Amazon!
This is not a ‘nice’ book in any way, whatsoever. It is HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL: you’ll either love it or HATE it! It will bring up stuff you don’t want to think about or look at! It will offend you.
The book is the FIRST BOOK EVER WRITTEN on female infidelity from the FIRST-HAND, insider experience of a serial adulterer, who cheated with the wives/girlfriends of over 25 married men (and a few women), and who also happens to be a therapist (never cheated with clients)! "I Steal Wives" is a salacious, self-deprecating, at times funny, and powerfully insightful look into what is now the very cutting-edge of relationships.
It's the relationship version of "How to Secure Your House, as told by a professional burglar!" This is no joke. It’s that rare relationship book that’s written in guy language and guy stories. The raw truths of “I Steal Wives” will forever change how you do relationships and understand women, especially if you are one!
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Women are cheating all over the place, nowadays! (Leann Rimes, Coco/IceT, Kristen Stewart, Suzy Favor Hamilton the Olympian & Vegas call girl, Rita Ora/Kardashian, Petraeus women).
My latest book, "I Steal Wives: A serial adulterer reveals the REAL reasons more and more 'happily married' women are cheating" is a powerful look at this EXPLOSIVE topic of female infidelity. And the REAL reasons aren't the typical blather you hear on talk-TV or read in the SECOND-HAND information of some psychologist's self-help book. It’s now trending in the top 1% of books selling on Amazon!
This is not a ‘nice’ book in any way, whatsoever. It is HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL: you’ll either love it or HATE it! It will bring up stuff you don’t want to think about or look at! It will offend you.
The book is the FIRST BOOK EVER WRITTEN on female infidelity from the FIRST-HAND, insider experience of a serial adulterer, who cheated with the wives/girlfriends of over 25 married men (and a few women), and who also happens to be a therapist (never cheated with clients)! "I Steal Wives" is a salacious, self-deprecating, at times funny, and powerfully insightful look into what is now the very cutting-edge of relationships.
It's the relationship version of "How to Secure Your House, as told by a professional burglar!" This is no joke. It’s that rare relationship book that’s written in guy language and guy stories. The raw truths of “I Steal Wives” will forever change how you do relationships and understand women, especially if you are one!
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