Paragraph 7 of the NYT story about the breakup of Arnold and Maria. Now, why doesn't the NYT, with its fabulous archive of old stories, link to those old "womanizer" reports that were whipped out at the last minute to try to preserve the power of the Democratic governor?
I'll do it for them. October 3, 2003, "THE CALIFORNIA RECALL: THE LEADING REPUBLICAN; Sexual Accusations Prompt an Apology By Schwarzenegger":
Mr. Schwarzenegger's attitude toward women has been an issue since the start of his campaign. But the new accusations, and Mr. Schwarzenegger's reply, set off a maelstrom of protest from his critics, including women's groups, Democrats and Arianna Huffington, who dropped out of the race this week but had repeatedly clashed with Mr. Schwarzenegger during a debate last week.Oh! Arianna was in the center of the maelstrom!
''I consider his campaign a very expensively produced masquerade,'' Ms. Huffington, who was running as an independent, said, "the question is will the mask be removed before the election or after. I believe what this story is going to do is really bring to question this big issue of trust and credibility. If his word and image are consistently proven to be false, he doesn't have a leg to stand on.''
The Los Angeles Times reported that three of the women said Mr. Schwarzenegger had grabbed their breasts. Another said he reached under her skirt. A fifth said he tried to strip off her bikini in a hotel elevator. The sixth said Mr. Schwarzenegger pulled her to his lap and asked if she was experienced in a particular sexual act. The accusations covered a 25-year period, ending in 2000....
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I wish them the best. Separating in the Public Eye can never be easy. At least they're past the Starlet Age, so tabloids won't really care.
I heard the main reason she's splitting with him is because he wants to do another couple Terminator movies. (snark, but the fanboi tidbit is true).
Honestly, if they can't make him look any better than he did in his Expendables cameo, then he should give up killer cyborg movies altogether...unless they're completely based in a retirement community. And that's Bruce Campbell territory.
"I consider his campaign a very expensively produced masquerade."
So did I, Arnold kept lying to everyone saying he was a conservative. The California GOP placed celebrity over substance and is now paying for it.
What ever happened to the real conservative in that race? He is now in the US House representing the 4th Cong. District.
"......unless they're completely based in a retirement community. And that's Bruce Campbell territory."
Whoa! Bruce is great. he's the only reason for watching "Burn Notice".
This California conservative was never a fan of Arnold and his RINO ways.
But this is sad. I do not wish this sadness on any family or couple of any political stripe. Praying for their kids.
Whoa! Bruce is great. he's the only reason for watching "Burn Notice".
Point of order. Another reason to watch is Gabrielle Anwar.
I heard the women dressed like sluts.
I saw Russ Feingold at the Middleton Willy Coop and a women dressed like a slut approached him and told her she was a masseuse and gave him her card.
Huffington was so incredibly foolish during that election. I do not know how she is taken seriously now.
Oh! Arianna was in the center of the maelstrom!
What is with you and that mixed-up bitch?
Oh well, it at least insures you'll be there when reality breaks, and then - just like your infatuation with Obama - the rest of us will have ample opportunity to laugh and point.
Arnold is as close to a conservative as California can get, i.e. he played a cartoon version of one in a movie. Possibly the biggest bait and switch in U.S. history. If he had remained what he ran as, CA would not be the disaster it is today. Arnold crumbled, like the vain little man, craving admiration, that he is. He could take being called a womanizer, a cad, even a fraud, but he could take being called "mean". He needed to be liked and he ended up hated. Let that be a lesson to other Republicans who want to go soft when the tough decisions need made.
. Possibly the biggest bait and switch in U.S. history.
Not if you're a liberal who voted for President Obama...
"I consider his campaign a very expensively produced masquerade"
Kind of like your marriage, eh Mizz Huffington?
ARnold was so popular during the Republican Convention in 2004. Wasn't he a featured speaker?
Girly Men.
If ARnold is going to appear in another movie he better get his tits back in shape.
They are pretty saggy now.
Not if you're a liberal who voted for President Obama...
A liberal was going to vote for McCain?
No, but independents voted for Obama so I thought the distinction necessary. Less of a bait-and-switch if you're toward the middle of the spectrum. More so if you're hard left and Gitmo is still open, for instance.
(The Crypto Jew)
A liberal was going to vote for McCain?
Arguably a smart move…had McCain won, you’d have ObamaCare-Lite, Cap and Trade-lite, be no worse off on the Global War on Terror, you’d have had the Porkulus Bill, Comprehensive Immigration Reform, and a number of other measures, ALL with Republican support, as McConnell and Boehner would not want to hand “their” POTUS a defeat. Meaning that 2010 wouldn’t have been a wipe-out for your side (You’d have kept control as the TEA Party attacked the GOP) and that the “repeal” of any of these measures would be complicated by the fact that the GOP, in fact, supported them!
So YES, you should have voted for McCain……Why is this difficult to grasp? Or do you buy into the Media/Pelosi “narrative” that ALL Republicans are rich white guyz who hate the poor and want dirty air and water, and wish to starve Granny?
Bottom-Line: a McCain Presidency would give you about 60% of what you have now, and a far lessened chance of repeal…….Glad you bought the “narrative”.
What is your point, Professor Althouse? Sure, Arianna Huffington and Democrats were involved and it was at the last minute, but it doesn't mean all the stories were false. Reading the article you linked to, Schwarzenegger admitted that he engaged in sexual misbehavior. Ariana's involvement doesn't change that.
Arguably a smart move
Hindsight is 20-20.
"What is your point, Professor Althouse?"
My point is that NYT articles that refer to past events should contain links to the original stories reporting those events.
My secondary point is: Hey, remember Arianna's role back then!
My tertiary point is: Remember how the media back then tried to help the Democratic governor who was being recalled?
By the way, if you go back to that '03 link, you'll see Schwarzenegger was also fending off the accusation that he liked Hitler.
Don't know if he liked Hitler or not - haven't seen the Downfall clip yet, but he married Skeletor, apparently.
Easy to seducer Kennedy woman meets arrogant Austrian seeking power...and now he is eager for another career. She is lucky to still be alive.
(The Crypto Jew)
Arguably a smart move
Hindsight is 20-20.
Hardly, these are positions that McCain had staked out during the campaign……It’s why I voted for Palin. Had she not been on the ticket I wasn’t voting. My dad did not vote in 1972 (As a Yellow Dog Democrat) because his choices were a “crazy man or a crook”, so too 2008 for me and many like me….Obama or Obama-Lite.
Tell me what would Mr. CrankyPants supporter of Immigration Reform, Cap and Trade, and a host of other Democrat-lite ideas done that would have so disgusted you, MadMAn? Considering you held the Congress, and that Pelosi and Reid would be writing the legislation for “Mr. Reach Across the Aisle” would be signing and that McCain would be leaning on Congressional Republicans to support, as “Bi-partisan and necessary legislation” what could go wrong in supporting McCain? I’m intrigued….you decided, why have Socialist-Lite when you can go Full Socialist?
Mind you, that’s what we on the Right try to point out to more “moderate” folks, that McCain was listed as “not liberal” enough and he went out of his way to move to the left……
Not exactly, Professor. Schwartzenegger was fending off the accusation that in 1975, he said he admired Hitler. Almost but not quite the same thing as admiring Hitler-past views, or at least past quote, versus the instant views. Given some of the other things he said during that time period that he later disavowed with shifting rationales, it's not necessarily unreasonable to ask about it.
Accusations of sexual misconduct were presented, some of them, by Schwarzenegger's own admission, true although the media let him off the hook without getting him to specify what he believed was true and what wasn't. Should the media have ignored the allegations because it came from democrats?
(The Crypto Jew)
On topic, Ah-nuld did TRY to change California Public Policy, but got defeated early on…from then on, it seemed he was determined to win re-election, rather than change California’s path….
Sorry about the separation and likely divorce…in general these things are unpleasant, and I wouldn’t wish them on Sharpton, Kucinich, Ron Paul, or anyone….I just think it’s funny, Maria’s bailing NOW, now that Ah-nuld’s career is over…hope there wasn’t abuse involved.
Hey you can't bring up sexual misconduct if the guy was a Kennedy.
Which he was.
By injection.
Hollywood types get divorced all the time. He can trade up for a starlet or two. Why would he want to be married to Ichabod Crane?
I know he has kids but his wife probably turned them against him long ago.
That's a Kennedy speciality.
It’s why I voted for Palin.
See, I voted against Palin.
Interesting that neither of us actually voted for a candidate. Says something about the quality presented.
Senators. Ptooie.
Ichabod - hmm - is that Niles Crane's long lost uncle or something?
Yeah the one with the Icky body.
(The Crypto Jew)
See, I voted against Palin.
Interesting that neither of us actually voted for a candidate. Says something about the quality presented.
*WOW* you must be the ONLY Obama supporter that felt that way….
""Mr. Schwarzenegger might never have been elected were it not for his wife...""
In hindsight it would have been better he was not elected.
Arnold is as close to a conservative as California can get
Then don't bother. Better to have Dems screwing things up before Californians wake up and re-elect Zombie Reagan.
Maria Shriver is scary looking. Give her some carbs.
Why do I hear the Carpenters playing over and over in my head?
Who can blame the guy? How many times could he be expected to endure deep cuts from those Maria Shriver cheekbones before he went looking for strange?
Schwarzenegger turned out to be a complete wimp, running on a conservative platform and then installing his wife's entire agenda.
Stick with unmarried politicians.
How can they be separating? They had matching face lifts.
If Ahnold is smaht, he go after all the Mr Waverly roles that will come up now that Spec Ops is PC again.
Ann Althouse said...
By the way, if you go back to that '03 link, you'll see Schwarzenegger was also fending off the accusation that he liked Hitler.
Dad was in the SS - guilt by association.
Once again, when the Demos scream, "McCartyism", don't forget they practice it better than anybody.
Hardly, these are positions that McCain had staked out during the campaign
When did McCain ever come out for anything like Obamacare or Obamacare lite? He was one of the few Republican Senators who voted against Medicare Part D on the grounds that it was too expensive (in fact he’s generally been pretty good on spending issues).
I just think it’s funny, Maria’s bailing NOW, now that Ah-nuld’s career is over…hope there wasn’t abuse involved.
He does seem to be wearing a lot more makeup these days – maybe to cover up some bruises?
(The Crypto Jew)
When did McCain ever come out for anything like Obamacare or Obamacare lite?
And IF Pelosi and Reid presented to him a version of RomneyCare, he’d have vetoed it? You can try to tell yourself these things, but don’t try to sell them to me, please…..
Arianna is one of Miss Maria's best galpals--allegedly.
Maybe a....lovely sapphic angle awaits the enterprising scoopmeister.
Karmic payback for Ahhnuld's political incompetence, perhaps
ricpic said...
Who can blame the guy? How many times could he be expected to endure deep cuts from those Maria Shriver cheekbones before he went looking for strange?
She looks emaciated. Can't tell if it's a fashion statement ("Can't be too thin or too rich") or she has some undisclosed malady. In either case very unattractive look.
or she has some undisclosed malady
Her membership in the Kennedy clan is quite well known.
Random observations: None of Arnold's problems as Governor had anything to do with philandering. As Palladian notes, there's something rich about Ariana commenting on masquerades. Maria's support of a horn dog husband coninued the fine old family tradition. Wonder the Times didn't give that as background info in their story. The NYT groped Arnold but left Edwards and any number of other Democrats untouched. Philandering, like corruption, homosexuality, and male pattern baldness, transcends party lines. You'd never know it from reading the Times.....Feminism, as practiced by liberal Democrats, is a huge scam. The disgusting atrocities practiced against women in the Muslim, Asian, and African world are under reported and attract no sense of outrage among feminists here. Given the Taliban's record in Afghanistan, I would expect women's groups to be lobbying for our increased presence there. Yeah, right. The feminists care more about a Hollywood star with hand problems than about all the rapes and murders in the Muslim world. The important lesson to learn from Arnold is that Republicans are sexists. The important lesson to learn from Lara Logan is that reporters are brave. How cynical do you have to get to protect yourself from this bullshit.
I think the NYT can't understand how a Democrat can lose in California, so they create nonsense like "Mr. Schwarzenegger might never have been elected were it not for his wife..."
Ariana and Cruz Bustamante were never, ever going to win that election, even if we had video of Schwarzenegger snorting coke off of women's naked bodies.
And IF Pelosi and Reid presented to him a version of RomneyCare, he’d have vetoed it?
Considering that McCain voted against Obamacare which was largely written by Pelosi and Reid, I’d say that that’s a pretty good indication that he would.
But don’t let inconvenient facts get in the way of your narrative.
Ariana and Cruz Bustamante were never, ever going to win that election, even if we had video of Schwarzenegger snorting coke off of women's naked bodies.
Yes but what would California do after Governor Coleman died in office?
(too soon?)
(The Crypto Jew)
Considering that McCain voted against Obamacare which was largely written by Pelosi and Reid, I’d say that that’s a pretty good indication that he would.
He voted AGAINST a plan proposed by the fellow that BEAT HIM, wow who could have seen THAT coming? You mean like he voted against the Bush Tax Cuts? You mean, McCain voted against a plan that NO Republican supported? That had NO Republican input? Wow, it must have been a moral dilemma for him to have voted “no.”
Instead I posit, it’s January 2009 and Rid and Pelosi propose a NATIONAL version of RomneyCare…with the mandate….Sen Bennet (R-Utah) proposed such a plan, Mitt Romney proposed and SIGNED such a plan…all under the rubric of “saving money” “fiscal sanity” “preserving Medicare” and providing healthcare for Americans not covered by insurance “eliminating the use of emergency rooms” and the like and I’d bet McCain would have signed on IMMEDIATELY.
Aw comeon... he married a Kennedy and thus he can get away with it like all Kennedys.
But the music is over. No more Govenator. So it's splitsville.
Who cares? It's just another liberal thing.
Mr. Schwarzenegger might never have been elected were it not for his wife...
Arnie won by a margin of over 17%.
The idea that a speech by his wife made the difference is ridiculous.
If one recalls, Schwarzenegger did attempt bold changes at first. Then the voters trounced his referendums, and he fell into line, liberally.
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