Threat? He's a lawyer trying to poison the jury pool into thinking "he's suffered enough already." Don't fall for that, he feels no legitimate remorse. If he had any human feelings other than selfishness none of this would have happened in the first place.
It would be white collar prison. Hardly some rape haven terror house. Is Edwards afraid of being jumped by a tax cheat CPA and a number fudging salesman?
A second source told the Enquirer: 'John isn't hiding the fact that he's terrified of going to prison, but he's also extremely distraught about what will happen to his children.
The guy was a manipulative fake and is continuing his MO.
Every bad thing said about him is true. And maybe even this story of suicide contemplation is a calculated attempt to manipulate the sentiment of the jury pool. That said, let the punishment fit the crime. He's a vanquished man, and I would not rejoice in further punishment beyond a stiff fine and maybe disbarment.....I always though Clinton would be the first political figure to have a leaked sex tape.
Freeman Hunt said... It would be white collar prison. Hardly some rape haven terror house.
Do you think there is such a thing as a "white collar prison"? Granted there are minimum-security prisons, but they too are full of people you really don't want to be around.
When I'd heard the reports (rumors?) that Edwards had promised Rielle Hunter a rooftop wedding complete with the Dave Matthews Band once Elizabeth was dead and gone, I found myself perversely admiring Edwards for giving his cancer-stricken wife a reason to keep on living as long as she could.
When I'd heard the reports (rumors?) that Edwards had promised Rielle Hunter a rooftop wedding complete with the Dave Matthews Band once Elizabeth was dead and gone, I found myself perversely admiring Edwards for giving his cancer-stricken wife a reason to keep on living as long as she could.
What did Gingrich promise his bimbo when he dumped his wife while she lay in a hospital bed with cancer?
"What did Gingrich promise his bimbo when he dumped his wife while she lay in a hospital bed with cancer?"
I don't get it. Is this some kind of 'the GOP does it too' argument?
Can't we consider the mistakes John Edwards makes without this implicating your political views that much?
Sure, Newt has also made some terrible mistakes, if this is just a contest of judging bad people to you, but I think John Edwards's story is a lot darker. That's probably just because we know more of the sordid details, but it's worth thinking about this flawed guy on his own, rather than a piece of a political game.
I don't get it. Is this some kind of 'the GOP does it too' argument?
Yes, that's exactly what it is.
Placeholder, you sound like a former Edwards supporter. So to speak.
It's not true. I liked his speeches, but he always seemed too slick.
Newt has also made some terrible mistakes, if this is just a contest of judging bad people to you, but I think John Edwards's story is a lot darker.
I think they are close to mirror images as mirror images get. I shared Edwards's politics and loathed Gingrich's politics, but when it came to their sex romps, I consider them indistinguishable.
Your belief that Edwards's story "is a lot darker" is completely a function of your being a knee-jerk wingnut who overlooks your hero's misconduct while excoriating the other guy's.
Me, well, I think they're both pigs. Somehow I sensed it with Edwards without really knowing why. Gingrich surprised me a bit, mainly because he has always looked like something that lives under a bridge.
It never occurred to me that he was a player. I just thought he was a garden variety Republican asshole, and that was enough. But if you're going to get your panties in a twist over Edwards, then Gingrich and the other Republican pigs are fair game.
No amount of Gingrich skankiness can un-skank John Edwards.
That I agree with. But every time any wingnut goes down the Edwards trail, I always remind of their star players. Fair's fair. I have a single standard, as opposed to the wingers who want to pretend that Edwards was somehow darker 'n stormier than the dark 'n stormy Republipigs.
A) As much as I like him, I would never support Gringrich for higher office due to his character flaws.
B) I do constantly remind my liberal friends that they had Kerry-EDWARDS bumper stickers on theirs for 4 years (to protest President Bush). They seem a little sheepish about it now.
I have a single standard, as opposed to the wingers who want to pretend that Edwards was somehow darker 'n stormier than the dark 'n stormy Republipigs.
As a self-styled centrist, I would agree with you, so it's kind of ironic that it was my posting that set you off. Am I obligated to bring up Newt Gingrich's, uh, indiscretions every time I bring up one of Edwards'? Must every critical comment about a Democrat be immediately matched with one about a Republican, and vice versa?
And do you get equally upset by slams against Republicans that are not immediately matched with ones against Democrats?
By the way, in case you haven't noticed, I have a nice, wide cynical streak about all politics. It wouldn't surprise me (although it would amuse the hell out of me) if Edwards actually hired someone to let the gossip rags know that he's hung like a donkey. Helps with the nascar vote.
A little far fetched when you think about it, but when it comes to national politics or the people who play it or who "report" on it, I don't think very much of anything is ever left to chance.
Let me answer it this way: I didn't last real long at the Daily Kos.
Do your diaries still exist? I'd like to read the ones in which you say, in so many words, "Here, now! How dare you mock a Republican without immediately and equally mocking a Democrat!"
Do your diaries still exist? I'd like to read the ones in which you say, in so many words, "Here, now! How dare you mock a Republican without immediately and equally mocking a Democrat!"
If they do, I couldn't point you to them. They "Hide Rate" stuff they don't like, so I never bothered to save the sign-on name. I was too critical of the Democrats for them. They require people to be cheerleaders.
Libtard: I have a single standard, as opposed to the wingers
More bullshit. Your "standard" is to hide behind false equivalency and Tu Quoque fallacy because you refuse to condemn a Democrat without the "but both sides do it" disqualifier.
ie. your "standard" is the LCD of whatever you pretend the other side has done.
I don't get the Edwards hatred. What has Edwards done that JFK didn't do everyday? Jack just got shot before he could get caught. John Edwards and John Kennedy were both valiant men who hated to see women have to go to bed alone. Did anyone see the Kennedys on cable Sunday night?
John Edwards and John Kennedy were both valiant men who hated to see women have to go to bed alone.
Yes, but at least Craig Vitter saw to it that the women didn't go to bed alone, but were paid for it. But don't ever say that all Democrats are cheapskates, 'cause Elliot Spitzer paid for it too.
You would prefer he waited until she was no longer dying of cancer.
I believe the Cancer Lady was his second wife, and that he'd met #3 on the sly. Or was Cancer Lady #1 and bimbo the #2 wife? He's had so many, not counting the temporary wives.
If he does go to prison, it will be minimum security, where there will be mainly non-violent offenders. The club Fed type prison.
Which is appropriate. I could see him plea-bargaining to where he surrenders his license to practice law, like President Clinton did. But I don't think he'll serve prison time. After all, he is a democrat.
Libtard: I believe the Cancer Lady was his second wife, and that he'd met #3 on the sly. Or was Cancer Lady #1 and bimbo the #2 wife?
ie. you don't really know what you're talking about. You just want to distract from John and Elizabeth dishonestly using her cancer to prop up his candidacy.
That I agree with. But every time any wingnut goes down the Edwards trail, I always remind of their star players.
Right. It's exactly the same.
Edwards was VP candidate. Edwards was trying to get people to vote for him so he could be president while his wife had cancer and he was sleeping with and impregnating the photographer.
And his staff was lying through their teeth and the legacy (what a legacy!!) media was covering his ass. (I never did see what Larry Lessig ended up saying about it all.)
Meanwhile I would not vote for Gingrich because of his personal life. He is a smart guy and has some good ideas. But not worthy of my vote.
Edwards was VP candidate. Edwards was trying to get people to vote for him so he could be president while his wife had cancer and he was sleeping with and impregnating the photographer.
Soooooooooweeee!
I would not vote for Gingrich because of his personal life.
That's a description of the John Edwards sex tape, quoted in an article that also says Edwards is "absolutely despondent over the fear of prison" and has lost 20 pounds.
I'm having trouble enumerating all of the ways in which I do not give a shit about anything in that sentence. I'm even kind of indifferent about "a" and "the".
"Your belief that Edwards's story "is a lot darker""
As someone who couldn't give a flip about Gingrich or Edwards, excepting for the fact that both were and remain complete phonies, let me say there is no comparison. Edwards' is a lot darker. Significantly.
* He and his wife made their idyllic marriage a centerpiece of a Presidential run, while his crap was going down * He had a campaign aide claim paternity in an attempt to defraud voters * His campaign was using every chit they had with the media- and they had plenty- to keep the truth hidden from the public * He apparently violated campaign finance laws in order to try to pay off his lover
Gingrich- reprehensible phony. Edwards- an even more reprehensible and likely criminal phony.
I thought the most pathology was shown not in his relationship with his wife but with his syncophant. What sort man asks another to take the fall for his illegitimate child or, for that matter, what sort of man takes the fall? Edwards, his friends, his lovers seem like a strange group. This is a level of phoniness and manipulation that is beyond the moral imagination of must men.
Fortunately Teddy set the standard so low that Edwards, Gingrich and Clinton look relatively clean. And hey..no jail time there..just a slight change in trajectory.
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64 comments:
Man you aren't going to quote the threat, just allude to it via tag?
madawaskan said...
Man you aren't going to quote the threat, just allude to it via tag?
Please don't link to the video...
chickenlittle
LOL!
Imagine that grand jury...
I've heard that Mr. Edwards is, um, uh, let's say that the tape will display no shortcomings.
Any word on how great his hair (on his head, mind you) looks on the video?
Somebody better tell him the first rule in prison for somebody whose nickname is Silky Pony is don't bend over.
Edwards is a most unlikable figure. He easily surpasses Obama in narcissism.
Threat? He's a lawyer trying to poison the jury pool into thinking "he's suffered enough already." Don't fall for that, he feels no legitimate remorse. If he had any human feelings other than selfishness none of this would have happened in the first place.
It would be white collar prison. Hardly some rape haven terror house. Is Edwards afraid of being jumped by a tax cheat CPA and a number fudging salesman?
I think he'll live.
I think his cellie ought to be Tom Delay. They can fight for top.
"Like "watching a traffic pile-up occur in slow motion - repelling but also transfixing."
This quote taken with its reference produced the mental image of cars crashing into car-sized private parts in slow motion.
"Oh my gawd, rhy-ELL! I might hafta play raquetbawl with sum middle manuhgment nobody! Jus kill meh now!"
and a number fudging salesman?
I don't know if he's exactly scared of *number* fudging...
Placeholder said...
I've heard that Mr. Edwards is, um, uh, let's say that the tape will display no shortcomings.
I'm glad you know and care. How much do male porn stars make? Could this be a second or third career for Edwards?
Now Edwards fears for the future of his family.
A second source told the Enquirer: 'John isn't hiding the fact that he's terrified of going to prison, but he's also extremely distraught about what will happen to his children.
The guy was a manipulative fake and is continuing his MO.
Maybe John Edwards could "hang" a little with Charlie Sheen and pick up some "pointers".
This quote taken with its reference produced the mental image of cars crashing into car-sized private parts in slow motion.
Apparently, Mr. Edwards's relevant area has been compared to a Dodge Viper, but without the wheels.
I'm not sure about the racing stripe, but I've read that people see the tape and say, "Whoa! Dude!"
Apparently, Mr. Edwards's relevant area has been compared to a Dodge Viper, but without the wheels.
It's shaped like a car?
Palceholder said:
Apparently, Mr. Edwards's relevant area has been compared to a Dodge Viper, but without the wheels.
That nails it. I think placeholder bats for the other team. NTTAWWT
It's shaped like a car?
Other way 'round!
Every bad thing said about him is true. And maybe even this story of suicide contemplation is a calculated attempt to manipulate the sentiment of the jury pool. That said, let the punishment fit the crime. He's a vanquished man, and I would not rejoice in further punishment beyond a stiff fine and maybe disbarment.....I always though Clinton would be the first political figure to have a leaked sex tape.
That nails it. I think placeholder bats for the other team. NTTAWWT
What, me drive a Chrysler?!
Seriously, though, when I first read about it on Gawker, I couldn't stop laughing. I wondered whether he hired a p.r. person to plant the rumor.
Other way 'round!
Somehow a car shape is involved.
Had the person comparing it to a Dodge Viper ever seen one of those parts before? (Flashbacks to bags of sand in The 40 Year Old Virgin.)
In his trial, he should take the stand and channel his dead wife, asking for mercy.
Well, it worked when he was suing obstetricians.
I hope people do realize that Edwards was born in South Carolina. Remember? In case you don't recall, I think I will refresh your memory.
I have no idea about Mr. Sanford's, well, you know. But take a look at the size of that hand, will ya?
Politicians are occupationally horny. All of 'em.
"In his trial, he should take the stand and channel his dead wife, asking for mercy."
Yeah, isn't Edwards some sort of 'psychic'?
Freeman Hunt said... It would be white collar prison. Hardly some rape haven terror house.
Do you think there is such a thing as a "white collar prison"? Granted there are minimum-security prisons, but they too are full of people you really don't want to be around.
When I'd heard the reports (rumors?) that Edwards had promised Rielle Hunter a rooftop wedding complete with the Dave Matthews Band once Elizabeth was dead and gone, I found myself perversely admiring Edwards for giving his cancer-stricken wife a reason to keep on living as long as she could.
WV: troov
When I'd heard the reports (rumors?) that Edwards had promised Rielle Hunter a rooftop wedding complete with the Dave Matthews Band once Elizabeth was dead and gone, I found myself perversely admiring Edwards for giving his cancer-stricken wife a reason to keep on living as long as she could.
What did Gingrich promise his bimbo when he dumped his wife while she lay in a hospital bed with cancer?
Placeholder, you sound like a former Edwards supporter. So to speak.
"What did Gingrich promise his bimbo when he dumped his wife while she lay in a hospital bed with cancer?"
I don't get it. Is this some kind of 'the GOP does it too' argument?
Can't we consider the mistakes John Edwards makes without this implicating your political views that much?
Sure, Newt has also made some terrible mistakes, if this is just a contest of judging bad people to you, but I think John Edwards's story is a lot darker. That's probably just because we know more of the sordid details, but it's worth thinking about this flawed guy on his own, rather than a piece of a political game.
He'll have to try for one of these.
I don't get it. Is this some kind of 'the GOP does it too' argument?
Yes, that's exactly what it is.
Placeholder, you sound like a former Edwards supporter. So to speak.
It's not true. I liked his speeches, but he always seemed too slick.
Newt has also made some terrible mistakes, if this is just a contest of judging bad people to you, but I think John Edwards's story is a lot darker.
I think they are close to mirror images as mirror images get. I shared Edwards's politics and loathed Gingrich's politics, but when it came to their sex romps, I consider them indistinguishable.
Your belief that Edwards's story "is a lot darker" is completely a function of your being a knee-jerk wingnut who overlooks your hero's misconduct while excoriating the other guy's.
Me, well, I think they're both pigs. Somehow I sensed it with Edwards without really knowing why. Gingrich surprised me a bit, mainly because he has always looked like something that lives under a bridge.
It never occurred to me that he was a player. I just thought he was a garden variety Republican asshole, and that was enough. But if you're going to get your panties in a twist over Edwards, then Gingrich and the other Republican pigs are fair game.
Was anyone singing the praises of Gingrich?
No amount of Gingrich skankiness can un-skank John Edwards.
But if you're going to get your panties in a twist over Edwards, then Gingrich and the other Republican pigs are fair game.
As an Obama voter, I was sympathizing with Elizabeth Edwards, not slamming Democrats in general or John Edwards in particular.
Hmm. Strike that. I was slamming John Edwards in particular.
WV: uperpa
No pity. No mercy.
No amount of Gingrich skankiness can un-skank John Edwards.
That I agree with. But every time any wingnut goes down the Edwards trail, I always remind of their star players. Fair's fair. I have a single standard, as opposed to the wingers who want to pretend that Edwards was somehow darker 'n stormier than the dark 'n stormy Republipigs.
A) As much as I like him, I would never support Gringrich for higher office due to his character flaws.
B) I do constantly remind my liberal friends that they had Kerry-EDWARDS bumper stickers on theirs for 4 years (to protest President Bush). They seem a little sheepish about it now.
I have a single standard, as opposed to the wingers who want to pretend that Edwards was somehow darker 'n stormier than the dark 'n stormy Republipigs.
As a self-styled centrist, I would agree with you, so it's kind of ironic that it was my posting that set you off. Am I obligated to bring up Newt Gingrich's, uh, indiscretions every time I bring up one of Edwards'? Must every critical comment about a Democrat be immediately matched with one about a Republican, and vice versa?
And do you get equally upset by slams against Republicans that are not immediately matched with ones against Democrats?
WV: knopp
To follow up....Edwards said to his whore in California:
"Don't worry. She'll be dead pretty soon". Speaking about his dying wife back in SC.
By the way, in case you haven't noticed, I have a nice, wide cynical streak about all politics. It wouldn't surprise me (although it would amuse the hell out of me) if Edwards actually hired someone to let the gossip rags know that he's hung like a donkey. Helps with the nascar vote.
A little far fetched when you think about it, but when it comes to national politics or the people who play it or who "report" on it, I don't think very much of anything is ever left to chance.
Am I obligated to bring up Newt Gingrich's, uh, indiscretions every time I bring up one of Edwards'?
I'm doing it for you. You're welcome.
Must every critical comment about a Democrat be immediately matched with one about a Republican, and vice versa?
"Every?" I don't think so. That implies a symmetry that doesn't exist. But when it comes to sex scandals, yes.
And do you get equally upset by slams against Republicans that are not immediately matched with ones against Democrats?
Let me answer it this way: I didn't last real long at the Daily Kos.
Let me answer it this way: I didn't last real long at the Daily Kos.
Do your diaries still exist? I'd like to read the ones in which you say, in so many words, "Here, now! How dare you mock a Republican without immediately and equally mocking a Democrat!"
WV: uropart
Do your diaries still exist? I'd like to read the ones in which you say, in so many words, "Here, now! How dare you mock a Republican without immediately and equally mocking a Democrat!"
If they do, I couldn't point you to them. They "Hide Rate" stuff they don't like, so I never bothered to save the sign-on name. I was too critical of the Democrats for them. They require people to be cheerleaders.
What did Gingrich promise his bimbo when he dumped his wife while she lay in a hospital bed with cancer?
Bullshit. Gingrich had already left her. He visited her in the hospital to get the divorce papers signed.
Libtard: I have a single standard, as opposed to the wingers
More bullshit. Your "standard" is to hide behind false equivalency and Tu Quoque fallacy because you refuse to condemn a Democrat without the "but both sides do it" disqualifier.
ie. your "standard" is the LCD of whatever you pretend the other side has done.
You have zero integrity.
Bullshit. Gingrich had already left her. He visited her in the hospital to get the divorce papers signed.
Oh. I see. Gee, I guess he wasn't such a stinkin' piece of a shit after all.
I don't get the Edwards hatred. What has Edwards done that JFK didn't do everyday? Jack just got shot before he could get caught. John Edwards and John Kennedy were both valiant men who hated to see women have to go to bed alone. Did anyone see the Kennedys on cable Sunday night?
John Edwards and John Kennedy were both valiant men who hated to see women have to go to bed alone.
Yes, but at least Craig Vitter saw to it that the women didn't go to bed alone, but were paid for it. But don't ever say that all Democrats are cheapskates, 'cause Elliot Spitzer paid for it too.
John Edwards and John Kennedy were both valiant men who hated to see women have to go to bed alone.
I'll have to remember that one ...
WV: preessa
Libtard: Gee, I guess he wasn't such a stinkin' piece of a shit after all.
You would prefer he waited until she was no longer dying of cancer.
No, you just want to talk about something other than what a POS Edwards is.
You would prefer he waited until she was no longer dying of cancer.
I believe the Cancer Lady was his second wife, and that he'd met #3 on the sly. Or was Cancer Lady #1 and bimbo the #2 wife? He's had so many, not counting the temporary wives.
Soooooooooooooowee!
but they too are full of people you really don't want to be around.
Disbarred lawyers, crooked CPAs and Bernie Madoff?
wv houglogg
If he does go to prison, it will be minimum security, where there will be mainly non-violent offenders. The club Fed type prison.
Which is appropriate. I could see him plea-bargaining to where he surrenders his license to practice law, like President Clinton did. But I don't think he'll serve prison time. After all, he is a democrat.
Libtard: I believe the Cancer Lady was his second wife, and that he'd met #3 on the sly. Or was Cancer Lady #1 and bimbo the #2 wife?
ie. you don't really know what you're talking about. You just want to distract from John and Elizabeth dishonestly using her cancer to prop up his candidacy.
That I agree with. But every time any wingnut goes down the Edwards trail, I always remind of their star players.
Right. It's exactly the same.
Edwards was VP candidate. Edwards was trying to get people to vote for him so he could be president while his wife had cancer and he was sleeping with and impregnating the photographer.
And his staff was lying through their teeth and the legacy (what a legacy!!) media was covering his ass. (I never did see what Larry Lessig ended up saying about it all.)
Meanwhile I would not vote for Gingrich because of his personal life. He is a smart guy and has some good ideas. But not worthy of my vote.
wv downa
Opposite of uppa
Edwards was VP candidate. Edwards was trying to get people to vote for him so he could be president while his wife had cancer and he was sleeping with and impregnating the photographer.
Soooooooooweeee!
I would not vote for Gingrich because of his personal life.
Soooooooooweeee!
That's a description of the John Edwards sex tape, quoted in an article that also says Edwards is "absolutely despondent over the fear of prison" and has lost 20 pounds.
I'm having trouble enumerating all of the ways in which I do not give a shit about anything in that sentence. I'm even kind of indifferent about "a" and "the".
""Like "watching a traffic pile-up occur in slow motion""
She was rear-ending him?
"Your belief that Edwards's story "is a lot darker""
As someone who couldn't give a flip about Gingrich or Edwards, excepting for the fact that both were and remain complete phonies, let me say there is no comparison. Edwards' is a lot darker. Significantly.
* He and his wife made their idyllic marriage a centerpiece of a Presidential run, while his crap was going down
* He had a campaign aide claim paternity in an attempt to defraud voters
* His campaign was using every chit they had with the media- and they had plenty- to keep the truth hidden from the public
* He apparently violated campaign finance laws in order to try to pay off his lover
Gingrich- reprehensible phony.
Edwards- an even more reprehensible and likely criminal phony.
My neighbor, John Edwards, is suicidal. Let me know if there is anything I can do to assist you, John, anything at all...
According to the Enquirer, a close source said: 'I think John is suicidal.
And the Enquirer will have the scoop as soon as it happens..
with pictures!
I thought the most pathology was shown not in his relationship with his wife but with his syncophant. What sort man asks another to take the fall for his illegitimate child or, for that matter, what sort of man takes the fall? Edwards, his friends, his lovers seem like a strange group. This is a level of phoniness and manipulation that is beyond the moral imagination of must men.
Fortunately Teddy set the standard so low that Edwards, Gingrich and Clinton look relatively clean. And hey..no jail time there..just a slight change in trajectory.
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