"One more thing about Kurt—Kurt was one of those guys. That's why I'm concerned about Miley. I think that his world was just spinning so fast and he had so many people around him that didn't help him. Like Anna Nicole Smith—you could see that train wreck coming. I was actually trying to reach out to Anna Nicole Smith, because I kept telling Tish and everybody around me, going, 'This is a disaster.' Michael Jackson—I was trying to reach out to Michael Jackson. I knew he had kids, and I was going to invite his kids down to a taping of Hannah—I just felt it would be good for Michael. I don't know why. I met Michael one time at the Grammys. He sat in front of me, in the front row, and a dime rolled out from under and hit my boot—this very boot I've got on—and I reached down and picked up this dime, and looked, he was going through his pockets, and I said, 'Are you looking for this?' 'Thank you.' And he took that dime and put it back in his pocket. I looked at my manager, I just said, 'Why did Michael Jackson have a dime?...' Nobody could tell me."
(Link. "Kurt" is Kurt Cobain.)
February 16, 2011
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Michael Jackson dropped the dime on Billy Ray.
I am sort of intrigued about Jacko and the dime.
Peter
Haunting. Ditto that I'm completely piqued about the dime.
I remember dimes. You used to be able to make a phone call with them.
Did gumball machines take dimes back then? Kids like gum.
Well his concern for Miley may be too little, too late. Childhood stardom does not automatically mean problems but its a good bet.
Maybe Jacko gave dimes out like John D. Rockerfeller?
In John D.'s time, a dime was worth a couple of bucks in our money. And he also gave quarters to the kids.
Maybe somebody should invite Billy Ray Cyrus and his kin over to a family of normal people. I think they could use it. (Was this his cry for help?)
I notice by his own admission he did a lot of 'trying' but never seemed to succeed in his efforts.
Not much of a do-er. Tells you what he wanted to do, but somehow he didn't succeed.
Sounds like someone we know in DC.
Celebrity can be a malignant disease; addictive like alcohol or meth, isolating like lions in a zoo, deadly like Icarus.
And what's doubly sad, besides having seen the bodies pile up, is that he's talking about his own daughter, who you'd think he could actually, well speak to.
If Billy Ray is so damned "concerned" about his daughter, why did he allow Disney, which has already tried sending Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera go spiralling off into near disaster, to photograph her topless a year or so ago?
Maybe he's afraid she'll do a Lindsay Lohan on him when she's 18.
Steve, help me think of childhood stars who did fine. One is Ron Howard. But Ron was managed by his father, himself an actor, and he protected his son from the horrors the film and tv industry can inflict on children.
I bet the few who survive had healthy parent(s) running their career.
Trey
He sounds like he is on drugs.
Do I have to mention that everyone he spoke of was a NewAger?
"Strangeness and sadness" indeed.
Here is some advice - try not to be one of these people that Billy Ray Cyrus is trying to reach out and help. They have excessive mortality.
TMink,
At one point, Drew Barrymore looked like she was on that downward spiral; but she pulled out somehow. (The gossips are always around for the downward spiral, strangely silent during the recovery.) Now she seems to have some maturity, and seems to be managing her career well. There was a time when I was sure she was going to end up just another failed child star.
Though she was much less prominent of a child star, Alyssa Milano seems to have navigated through the rough waters pretty well. Her film career has been lackluster, but she manages her TV career pretty well.
The well-adjusted child stars are rare, but they're out there. A lot of them get out of the business entirely, so you never hear about them.
It was pretty interesting to watch Kim Richards of "Escape to Witch Mountain Fame" on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. She seems broken and totally bullied by her younger sister Kyle who rode on her coattails and like their other sister parlayed Kim's Money into marriages and a rich lifestyle. Kim was used up like a lemon and now that all the juice is squeezed out continues to be abused by her jackhole family.
I really felt bad for her this season.
You had to see it to believe it.
So he's feeling remorse for being a lousy parent?
Blame it on Satan.
At one point, Kyle Richards lunges at her ready to give her a smack and she cowers in terror and hides behind another woman shaking and moaning and totally petrified.
You could tell that this was not the first time her sister laid hands on her.
Sad.
Jodi Foster did okay. Brooke Shields.
you could see that train wreck coming
This is true so many times. Yet, when people try to derail the train, they can't. Billy Ray's a good ole boy from Flatwoods, KY. I'm sure he appreciates many of the simpler things in life.
I'm not intrigued about why Jacko had a dime. I'm intrigued about why he cared if he lost it.
Warren Buffet tells this story: In an airpot, many years ago, he asked his assistant if she had change of a quarter so he could make a phone call. She told him that he was one of the world's richest men and he did not need to make change of a goddamed quarter.....I'm sure Billy Ray and Milley have known and will know much of heartbreak and frustration. On the other hand, mansions, good looks, and adulation can cushion many of the problems that are caused by mansions, good looks, and adulation. This is up there with the King's stammer as among those things that do no excite pity and terror.
prairie wind said...
Jodi Foster did okay. Brooke Shields.
Jodie Foster, while an excellent actress (I remember being impressed by her when she was only 9 or 10), has a few issues with men and a Mommy problem, and has gotten out out of acting into production, where she seems to have found her niche.
If Brooke Shields has survived, it's in spite of her uber-stage mother, not because of her.
I seem to think that Jackie Cooper avoided the Hollywood pitfalls megastar that he was.
Perhaps Michael Jackson was planning to give an acceptance speech in which he was going to say, "You know, when I started out, I didn't have a dime in my pocket. But today..." and then he was going to reach into his pocket and pull out that dime.
Hold on here!!
Are you telling me that Hanna Montana, and Smiley Virus are the SAME person!?!?
Not sure what Billy Ray is concerned about. It might all be relative. Miley went through an overtly rebellious stage, but it didn't seem to last that long or get too out-of-hand. She seems to have a good sense of what her audience wants. Better than Dad, who may be sentimental about his old Kentucky home.
While Billy Ray Cyrus may have made a lot of decisions regarding his daughter's career that I may not have made were I in his shoes, I hesitate to judge him too harshly from afar.
There is no shortage of parents who do all the "right" things, but who find themselves powerless to guide the course of a wayward child.
Few things are more rewarding, or more heartbreaking, than being a parent.
Jodie Foster... has a few issues with men...
The old childhood trauma makes gay chestnut? Really?
Few things are more rewarding, or more heartbreaking, than being a parent.
Amen. Probably nothing.
Miley should kiss Billy Ray's feet every day. Without him, she'd be just another girl in high school. Miley's talented but no more so than a dozen or so girls who are friend of my sons and daughter.
It's interesting that we're so intrigued by MJ's possession of a dime, as if we so expect celebrities to be disassociated from normal life that we cannot imagine them possessing everyday objects. Maybe it was his luck dime?
IIRC, B R Cyrus more-or-less "encouraged" his daughter to, ah, dress with less.
Ya' know, that's money in the bank.
Perhaps if B R Cyrus had been more of a father and less of an agent (or pimp) he wouldn't have to give this interview.
sad that you had to explain who Kurt is/was.
What does Jodie Foster has "issues with men" mean? Foster has stood by Mel Gibson through thick and thin at some cost to herself. She's had other close friendships with men.
"The old childhood trauma makes gay chestnut? Really?"
This is coming from edutcher, after all, a guy who thinks the US Military is going to crumble into dust because gay service members can't be subjected to retributory discharges any longer.
That was rather haunting. I wish I knew more about the dime.
Were Michael's last words "Roosebud"?
As a parent you can't live your child's life for her, not like when they were little. They get their own ideas. It's rather terrifying even when you've got kids who are smart and not in trouble to realize just how powerless you are.
That paragraph of strangeness is how I feel inside my head most of ever day.
A man whose achy heart is going breaky.
Although, I think about being the teenager I was with all the built-in insecurities, all the yearning to do the grown up things and to be accepted. If I had the sort of intense fame and adulation Miley has had - rather than the typical, humility-inducing struggles - where would I be? Where would any of us?
And, unlike many dads of famous kids, Billy Ray is sufficiently well known that all of her troubles will redound upon him. He can feel his reputation teetering, too.
Jodie Foster, while an excellent actress (I remember being impressed by her when she was only 9 or 10), has a few issues with men...
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She doesn't want to sleep with men, but she *is* a lesbian, so I wouldn't call that a problem, I'd call it normal.
He whored out his daughter on the altar of celebrity. What did he expect would occur?
Several years later, and he's still wearing the same pair of boots?
Henry Ford said that nobody ever made a reputation out things they were going to do.
BTW, I am not rich but I do not carry change. I haven't for years. I keep quarters in my car for when I shop at Aldis.
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