Althouse: "The administration is focusing now on rule number 12 of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

March 3, 2009

"The administration is focusing now on rule number 12 of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

"Cut off the support network; isolate the target from sympathy; go after people, not institutions, because people hurt faster than institutions. Well, I don't hurt. I am not hurt by any of this. What this is, though, is cruel. It is cruel because it is a game of manipulation emanating from the Oval Office. It is an attempt to distract Americans from the destruction of their ability to earn a living. It is an attempt to distract you from your plunging economy. It is an attempt to distract you from your ability to save for retirement and to pursue happiness. See, honest face-to-face discussions and debates are fair. I gave a speech at CPAC on Saturday, televised my first national address, address to the nation. In that speech were not just illustrations of what's wrong with this administration and liberalism. There were solutions, solution after solution after solution, because conservatism is a solution. None of the things that I said in that speech are being repeated by the Drive-By Media which I knew would be the case, because face-to-face discussions and debates are not going to happen. Instead, Alinsky's Rules for Radicals number 12 has been employed: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

Rush Limbaugh.

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Anonymous said...: Yo, Mikey, I just googled "hoping for defeat in Iraq." There's lots of links for you there.

Here's one: http://www.unc.edu/depts/diplomat/item/2007/0709/bran/brands_after.html; 3/3/09, 1:04 PM
AlphaLiberal said...: 7 Machos rings in from Fantasyland:

Why is the left so threatened by Limbaugh, Alpha?
Threatened? not so much. People are promoting him for leadership of the right wing. Hint: That's not exactly acting threatened.

We think he's a shameless liar.

Why do they want to use the law to make stations that carry him far less profitable?

You don't know what you're talking about. No-ones is promoting the Fairness Doctrine. That's a wholly manufactured issues for the dupes and the rubes.

But, hey, you got some actual facts to back that up? No, didn't think so.; 3/3/09, 1:06 PM
ricpic said...: Rush loves America. He is grateful. He wants his good fortune to be everybody's good fortune.

Zero hates Amerika. He seethes with a boiling and unappeasable resentment. He longs for revenge. He is an engine of destruction and he is sowing destruction. Every day. Zero is our enemy.

All the sophisticates here have to let us know that they have reservations about Rush, even when they deign to agree with him. Well, I have no reservations about Rush and I speak for all the simple souls who KNOW that he is defending liberty against a wannabe tyrant.

Rush is a hero.; 3/3/09, 1:07 PM
Noah Boddie said...: >Korla - If you're not on medication, consider it.

Sure, if Obama lets us know who sold him cocaine and weed back when he was "Barry," I'll go buy some, too. Just as a souvenir of a disastrous presidency.

Always attack the messenger when you can't deny the message.; 3/3/09, 1:07 PM
BJM said...: While this is entertaining it's also disturbing. It's goes against our founding documents and principles to bring the power of the WH against any individual. The WH should be able to make their argument, especially given the size of their bully pulpit and that the MSM is in their tank.

I think they've miscalculated as attacking Rush will increase his reach as his retorts, jibes and jabs have already gone viral online.

Mark Twain once remarked “Never pick a fight with a man who buys his ink by the barrel.” [or one with a national radio microphone open 3 hours a day.]; 3/3/09, 1:08 PM
AlphaLiberal said...: Yo, Mikey, I just googled "hoping for defeat in Iraq." There's lots of links for you there.

Actually, there's not. You have ONE paper by a history PhD and you think that you have the goods on the Democratic Party.

Really, ya got nothin.; 3/3/09, 1:08 PM
AlphaLiberal said...: BJM plays the parrot:

...to bring the power of the WH against any individual.

Specifically, what are you talking about? what do you allege the White House has done?

Do you even know what you're talking about?; 3/3/09, 1:10 PM
Deana said...: I simply don't understand why the White House is using valuable air time and expending effort talkinb about Rush.

It's weird.; 3/3/09, 1:11 PM
Unknown said...: Yes that is exactly what happened in 2003.

And 2005. And 2007.

It one of the truly smart things Bush ever pushed for.

And he was swatted down by crooks.
====================================

Reforming Freddie Mac and Fanny Mae was RACIST because only black people took out liar loans.; 3/3/09, 1:12 PM
Roberto said...: Michael Hasenstab said..."Limbaugh just made a brilliant observation. The BHO administration is purposely driving down the stock market in order to cause investors to move into Treasury bonds."

Good lord...people have been into bonds for months on end...and the very notion is ludicrous.(And also been out there for quite some time so this isn't a Rush Limbaugh moment.)

I personally transferred every one of our 401K's and pension funds into Fidelity Government Income Funds and a Credit Union over 6 months ago.

If people here had done the same they would not have made much, if any interest, but they wouldn't have lost a penny via the standard Mutual Funds, etc.

Most of my friends have lost up to 40% of their pensions because of the sagging worldwide markets...and I bet anybody here who has ever actually had a job...has too.; 3/3/09, 1:12 PM
Roberto said...: Deana said..."I simply don't understand why the White House is using valuable air time and expending effort talkinb about Rush."

With the exception of a comment few days ago...they're not.

The talking heads on the tube are though.; 3/3/09, 1:13 PM
AlphaLiberal said...: Not once in this rant does Rush Limbaugh, (or his dittohead Ann Althouse) provide an example of him being "singled out".

He's the major keynote speaker at CPAC, honored with an award.

And he's crying "foul" for being criticized in the wake of having this high profile?

Really, could Rush Limbaugh be any more of a WATB*?

* WATB = Whiny Ass Titty baby; 3/3/09, 1:15 PM
Roberto said...: Korda - "Just as a souvenir of a disastrous presidency."

40 days?

You can't be this dense.; 3/3/09, 1:17 PM
Shanna said...: Why is the left so threatened by Limbaugh, Alpha? Why do they want to use the law to make stations that carry him far less profitable?

Because they want everyone to be less profitable?

Profit is evil, dontcha know…; 3/3/09, 1:17 PM
AlphaLiberal said...: Deana:

I simply don't understand why the White House is using valuable air time and expending effort talkinb about Rush.

Same questions to you:
what are you talking about?
What's an example of the White House "attacking" Rush?

Note: Not even Rush Limbaugh could give an example.; 3/3/09, 1:18 PM
former law student said...: Another point on Rush, from the Derbyshire article:

Upon discovering that Limbaugh had anointed himself the successor to William F. Buckley Jr., WFB’s son Christopher retorted, “Rush, I knew William F. Buckley, Jr. William F. Buckley, Jr. was a father of mine. Rush, you’re no William F. Buckley, Jr.”

I simply don't understand why the White House is using valuable air time and expending effort talkinb about Rush.

He didn't.

Near the end of January, President Obama invited "top GOP leaders" to the White House to discuss the stimulus package. During the course of the discussion, he told them that "You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done;" meaning that bipartisanship was needed to help mend the economy.

But evidently the GOP stuck with the Gospel According to Rush.; 3/3/09, 1:23 PM
Roberto said...: rastajenk - This is what you link as an argument about liberals wanting defeat in Iraq? A single commentary by a student at Yale?

Are you daft?

"After Iraq Why Conceding Defeat Would Be Good for American Foreign Policy" Hal Brands

"On the home front, too, withdrawal is the correct and necessary course. According to a recent report by the Congressional Research Service, the cost of the Iraq war now totals more than $10 billion per month.

While devoting such a massive chunk of the federal budget to the war, Washington simply cannot afford to fill the numerous critical gaps afflicting the agencies directly responsible for America's domestic security."; 3/3/09, 1:24 PM
Roberto said...: Shanna - "Because they want everyone to be less profitable?"

Yeah, that's it.

Democrats want Americans to be "less profitable."

Good lord...what in the world are you talking about??; 3/3/09, 1:27 PM
AlphaLiberal said...: Near the end of January, President Obama invited "top GOP leaders" to the White House to discuss the stimulus package. During the course of the discussion, he told them that "You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done;" meaning that bipartisanship was needed to help mend the economy.

As you mention, that comment from Obama was over a month ago. I don't think that's what's being referred to.

I don't think any of the wingers foaming at the mouth know what is being referred to. They sure can't give us ONE example.

It's just a choir of dittoheads echoing their leader, egged on by dittohead Ann Althouse.; 3/3/09, 1:27 PM
davod said...: I posted this some time ago on ther blog but it is even more important now.

Yuri Bezmenov : les idiots utiles du socialisme

"Every American needs to see this video, because what is happening right now is a direct result of the plans Bezmenov lays out in great detail. We have passed the destabilization phase and with 5 weeks remaining until our elections, we are currently in the crisis stage.
Watch and listen to the video and then convince me we are not. This is the saul alinsky plan come to full fruition. And Obambi and the marxist-leninist radical lefties in the dem party are in it up to their ears.

Every American needs to see this video, because what is happening right now is a direct result of the plans Bezmenov lays out in great detail. We have passed the destabilization phase and with 5 weeks remaining until our elections, we are currently in the crisis stage.

Watch and listen to the video and then convince me we are not. This is the saul alinsky plan come to full fruition. And Obambi and the marxist-leninist radical lefties in the dem party are in it up to their ears."; 3/3/09, 1:27 PM
AlphaLiberal said...: Because they want everyone to be less profitable?

I think he was referring to the right wing psychosis that tells them liberals want to bring the Fairness Doctrine back.

It's false. A lie told to their base to whip them up. The right wingers are the only ones talking about this!

Dittoheads = Dupes.

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Davod, nothing you said in that post made a lick of sense.; 3/3/09, 1:30 PM
Roux said...: "You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done," he told top GOP leaders, whom he had invited to the White House to discuss his nearly $1 trillion stimulus package.

Imagine if Bush would have said "Stop reading the NY Times".; 3/3/09, 1:33 PM
JSF said...: For a refreshing taste of Democrats supporting President Bush in 2003 -- read this:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/raasch/2003-05-08-0320-raasch_x.htm

You want Republicans to support President Obama? Maybe you folks on the Left can provide proof of your support of Bush.

I do remember Code Pink showing up everywhere and no Democrat, Liberal or Progressive see anything wrong with their tactics. Maybe we on the Right should emulate them.

And I'm still waiting on Michael to show how he supported President Bush on Althouseiania between
2003-2007.

If it can't be proven, dare I say it, Rush was right.; 3/3/09, 1:34 PM
Shanna said...: Shanna - "Because they want everyone to be less profitable?"

Yeah, that's it.

Democrats want Americans to be "less profitable."

Well, first off I was kind of kidding, but when democratic politician rant against everyone who makes too much money and ever business that is profitable (oil, pharmaceuticals, etc), what's a girl to think?; 3/3/09, 1:35 PM
Roux said...: "Now I believe, myself, that the secretary of state, the secretary of defense and you have to make your own decision as to what the president knows: that this war is lost, that the surge is not accomplishing anything," Reid, D-Nev., told reporters.

Here you go Mikey.; 3/3/09, 1:36 PM
I'm Full of Soup said...: How does the left decide when a rich person is evil & cruel?

For instance, these rich folks are evil according to the left:

Rush Limbaugh, Anyone on Wall Street, Mitt Romney, Auto Industry Execs, Drug Company Execs.

But these rich folks are the good guys:

Warren Buffet, Movie stars, Oprah, Bill & Hillary Clinton, Jon Corzine, Frank Lautenberg, George Soros.; 3/3/09, 1:46 PM
Anonymous said...: Mikey Boy, you asked for one link; I gave you one I just picked at random. They're out there, despite your denials.; 3/3/09, 1:50 PM
AlphaLiberal said...: AJ Lynch, back on topic, do you know what these attacks are from the White House that Rush Limbaugh and Ann Althouse refer to?

Ann cannot tell us. NO-one here can.

I think it's a paranoid delusion, personally. After all, a White House attack is pretty easy to show.; 3/3/09, 1:51 PM
Hoosier Daddy said...: While devoting such a massive chunk of the federal budget to the war, Washington simply cannot afford to fill the numerous critical gaps afflicting the agencies directly responsible for America's domestic security."

Speaking of which, I thought Obama promised he would end the war, the wasteful spending and bring the troops home.

Looks like another Obama promise thrown under the bus.

Hey Michael, after only 35 days, Obama has managed to more than double the deficit he was left with. Now that's performance.

You betcha; 3/3/09, 1:52 PM
Roberto said...: davod - "And Obambi and the marxist-leninist radical lefties in the dem party are in it up to their ears."

Well, that pretty much sums up the fact that your tinfoil hat needs adjusting.

Where ins the world do you people come up with this insanity?

Obama is now a "marxist, leninist, radical lefty"???

Now that is quite the combo.; 3/3/09, 1:52 PM
DaLawGiver said...: Michael is simulating a rational human being this afternoon. It was much more entertaining last night when he couldn't spell and was spewing hate and self loathing.

Got the saddle back on your dinosaur did ya? Good for you.; 3/3/09, 1:57 PM
Roberto said...: Hoosier - "Speaking of which, I thought Obama promised he would end the war, the wasteful spending and bring the troops home."

Well...let's see now:

Obama's been President for about what, 40 days?

And you feel it's not unreasonable for him to end the war, bring the troops home, fire up the economy, rehabilitate the real estate market, and make all things good?

As for the "deficit," even one with a limited education like yourself knows the "deficit" created via Obama is the direct result of an attempt to reverse the massive worldwide economic situation we have today.

YOU yourself supported George W. Bush for eight long years, yet you can't put aside partisan politics for the new President for more than 40 days?

That's unAmerican.; 3/3/09, 1:58 PM
DaLawGiver said...: And please Michael put that picture of a dog's asshole back up as your avatar. It really is you.; 3/3/09, 2:00 PM
Roberto said...: Lawgiver, I have no idea what you're talking about...as usual.

If referring to typos or even the mispelling of words is all you got...you're even smaller than I thought.

And that's pretty damn small.

Why not try refuting or debating anything I have to say...instead of sucking up to your fellow wingnuts via inane comments?; 3/3/09, 2:01 PM
Roberto said...: Lawgiver said..."And please Michael put that picture of a dog's asshole back up as your avatar. It really is you."

Again, I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

But, if you get a chance, why not blow me?; 3/3/09, 2:02 PM
Noah Boddie said...: >Korla - If you're not on medication, consider it.

As soon as Obama tells us who sold him his cocaine and weed back when he was "Barry," I'll go buy some, just as a souvenir of a disastrous presidency.; 3/3/09, 2:02 PM
JSF said...: Michael,

Then I'm sure you can lead by example:

Show us your support of the last president -- if it's there, maybe some of us will hold back criticism until his first 6 months are done.....

If you can't, then you are a hypocrite.; 3/3/09, 2:02 PM
cryptical said...: YOU yourself supported George W. Bush for eight long years, yet you can't put aside partisan politics for the new President for more than 40 days?

I think Obama is getting exactly as much respect from some on the right that President Bush got from some on the left. If you don't like it, go squirt some tears.; 3/3/09, 2:03 PM
Roberto said...: rastajenk said..."Mikey Boy, you asked for one link; I gave you one I just picked at random. They're out there, despite your denials."

A link to one person's commentary doesn't support your silly notion that Democrats were rooting for a defeat in Iraq.

Why not provide more evidence?; 3/3/09, 2:05 PM
AlphaLiberal said...: I am, actually, amazed at this new level of self-deception.

Conservatives, dittoheads, etc, are convinced the White House is attacking rush Limbaugh. But no-one can show one example!

"Paranoia, will destroy ya!"; 3/3/09, 2:05 PM
Roux said...: "You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done," he told top GOP leaders, whom he had invited to the White House to discuss his nearly $1 trillion stimulus package.

Here it is again... the President saying stop listening to Rush.; 3/3/09, 2:08 PM
I'm Full of Soup said...: Alpha:

Do you own a radio or a TV?

Rahm Emanuel took after Rush on a Sunday morning TV show. Presidential press flack Gibbs responded to a question about Rush's CPAC speech and Michael here said Obama was just trying to give some advice to Republicans ..."Do not Listen to Rush".

Other than that, Rush's role as figurehead has been much discussed for 2-3 days by the El Lamo MSM.

But you should know this unless you do not have a radio or a TV.; 3/3/09, 2:13 PM
AlphaLiberal said...: Roux, that was a comment made over one month ago. If you see the post Ann ditto's Rush references his speech on Saturday.

That's too long ago for this comment which addresses recent actions.

AJ, Rahm Emanuel took after Rush on a Sunday morning TV show.

No, he didn't attack Limbaugh. I watched that. He described Limbaugh as a leader and an “intellectual force.” He even cited the fact that elected politicians often offer public apologies to Rush for criticizing him (a fact).

Those are not attacks. Rahm clearly wants Rush to be the GOP leader (because he knows how offputting Rush is for anyone not in rush's camp).

Again, that's not an attack. It's promoting the guy.; 3/3/09, 2:18 PM
Jim C. said...: Blogger Invisible Man said Yet, not one hint of self-reflection from a group that follows a man who likened the previous President's 15-year old daughter to a dog on national radio. Oh, I forgot, it's not bad if the Right does it.

Do you have audio of that? Actually, I saw that on TV. There he did NOT make any such comparison. A picture of the WH dog showed up instead of one of Chelsea, and he IMMEDIATELY and without a scintilla of humor said it was a technical glitch and apologized for that.

Typical leftist, can't restrain himself from twisting facts into an accusation for something that didn't happen.; 3/3/09, 2:20 PM
Roberto said...: AJ Lynch said..."Rahm Emanuel took after Rush on a Sunday morning TV show.

And?

Presidential press flack Gibbs responded to a question about Rush's CPAC speech...

The key words being "responded to"...

...and Michael here said Obama was just trying to give some advice to Republicans ..."Do not Listen to Rush".

I don't remember ever saying that, but maybe a few days ago? And if I did...what's wrong with Obama telling people to ignore a radio entertainer's slant on politics?

Regardless, Rahm spending a few minutes talking about Rush, and Obama telling people to ignore him certainly doesn't deserve the idiotic reaction found here.; 3/3/09, 2:22 PM
Roberto said...: Roux said..."You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done," he told top GOP leaders, whom he had invited to the White House to discuss his nearly $1 trillion stimulus package.

You forgot to add this: He said it on January 23rd.

And you're still talking about it?; 3/3/09, 2:26 PM
Roberto said...: JimC - You're wrong:

Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh compared 13-year-old Chelsea to a dog:

On November 6, 1992, three days after her father won the elections, when Chelsea was still in braces, Rush Limbaugh said the following on his television show: 'Everyone knows the Clintons have a cat; Socks is the White House cat.

But did you know there is also a White House dog?' He then pointed to a video monitor, which switched to a picture of Chelsea.

Limbaugh has claimed that it was a technical error, despite the fact that the show was taped in advance of its broadcast...

...giving Limbaugh ample time to fix the 'error.'; 3/3/09, 2:29 PM
Big Mike said...: Hmmm. This thread seems to have been hijacked by the Left Wing Lunatic Fringe. Time to fight. 8-D

Let me start by stipulating that Michael Steele, whom I was rooting for to win the RNC chairmanship for reasons that made sense at the time, is correct in calling Rush Limbaugh an entertainer. True in the sense that he makes his money as a radio personality, and in the sense that he doesn't have to win any votes in a real election. But Rush is more than that, he occupies a position similar in some respects to Michael Moore, also an entertainer, but also a position akin to Markos Moulitsas, in that he provides a forum for views that the administration does not find congenial (meaning the last administration, in the case of Daily Kos).

Barack Obama's famous finger-wagging comment credits Rush for more of a de facto leadership in the Republican party than he has. It's like telling Democrats to forget about blindly following Markos Moulitsas and Michael Moore. Democrats may blindly follow Nancy Pelosi off the cliff, but even I credit Democrats with more sanity than to blindly follow Markos Moulitsas.

Did Democrats actively pull for the US to lose the Iraq War? I'd point to comments by Harry Reid and that former junior senator from Illinois. (Whatever happened to him? A nice kid, clean and articulate according to Joe Biden.) Of course Michael Moore and Markos Moulitsas actively pulled for America's defeat, and presumably their followers did, too.

I think the reason for Republicans to actively oppose the Obama plan (insofar as it really is "his" plan and not Nancy Pelosi's) is not that we hope it fails, but that we are certain that it will fail, and damage the United States in doing so.

There's a difference between Pelosi's opposition to the Bush efforts to reform Social Security, which was just to hand him a defeat, and Republican efforts to try to amelioate Democrat excesses is not to hand Obama a defeat, because we know that his policies must fail. We need to try to keep some part of the American economy out of the septic tank.

BTW, until she got her plastic surgery Chelsea Clinton really was a dog.

And only an utter fool would confuse Professor Althouse with a dittohead.; 3/3/09, 2:44 PM
Revenant said...: Roux, that was a comment made over one month ago. If you see the post Ann ditto's Rush references his speech on Saturday.

The important thing to remember is that Obama isn't saying "don't listen to Rush" right this very second. Yes, yes, he said it just a couple months ago, but that doesn't count. Only a fool would think the fact that Obama said something means it is ok to say Obama said it. You must first check to see if Obama is *currently* saying it.

Did I get it right? I'm trying to be a good American.; 3/3/09, 2:46 PM
Roux said...: Rush did apologize for calling Chelsea a dog. He knew he shouldn't have done it.

But let's see you guys can go back to 1992 but I can't go back to Jan 23rd 2009. Jeezz..; 3/3/09, 2:46 PM
Revenant said...: While devoting such a massive chunk of the federal budget to the war

Five percent? More like two percent, these days.; 3/3/09, 2:47 PM
Dust Bunny Queen said...: Obama is now a "marxist, leninist, radical lefty"???

Not just now. Pretty much for quite some time. It is just now that the mask has slipped.; 3/3/09, 2:51 PM
Hoosier Daddy said...: Well...let's see now:

Obama's been President for about what, 40 days?

And you feel it's not unreasonable for him to end the war, bring the troops home

I think it's completely unreasonable given his condemntation of the war and his repeated campaign promises to END THE WAR and BRING THE TROOPS HOME. It's takes 2 seconds not 40 days to issue the order and he is CinC of the US military.

As for the "deficit," even one with a limited education like yourself knows the "deficit" created via Obama is the direct result of an attempt to reverse the massive worldwide economic situation we have today.

Well alcoholics use the hair of the dog remedy when they want to excuse having a morning cocktail to cure last night's bender.; 3/3/09, 2:53 PM
Dust Bunny Queen said...: ..."You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done

This is actually true.

First of all, if all you do is listen, generally his show is on during working hours, you really aren't accomplishing much by sitting on your ass listening to radio.....unless you are a truck driver and then you get paid to sit on your ass.

Also....just listening and never acting on the information will not get things done. So people who listen to Rush need to get out and act on their views and principles.

Good advice. Thanks.; 3/3/09, 2:54 PM
amba said...: Was there something wrong with Clinton's veto pen?

God, everything about that man sounds dirty.; 3/3/09, 3:11 PM
Peter V. Bella said...: Alpha,
I read Alinsky in college- in the early seventies. Unlike the Liberals- hate is not a family value but it is ok to hate anyone who does not agree with them- I hate no one.; 3/3/09, 3:13 PM
former law student said...: I think it's completely unreasonable given his condemntation of the war and his repeated campaign promises to END THE WAR and BRING THE TROOPS HOME. It's takes 2 seconds not 40 days to issue the order and he is CinC of the US military.

Remember Candidate Obama? For at least a year now, Obama's been talking about withdrawing troops from Iraq over a 16 month period. Why do you want him to pull all of the troops out immediately?

Obama Lays Out Plan to End War
Fayetteville (N.C.) Observer | By John Ramsey | March 20, 2008
Sen. Barack Obama said March 19 that the Iraq war must end to free up the U.S. military's resources to fight al-Qaida.

Speaking at Fayetteville Technical Community College to a crowd of mostly elected officials and local supporters -- and a small contingent of military members -- Obama said enemies such as al-Qaida, the Taliban, Iran and North Korea have been invigorated by the war in Iraq, a war "based on false premises."

"The war in Iraq has done more to embolden America's enemies than any strategic choice that we have made in decades," he said. "I will offer a clean break from the failed policies and politics of the past."

On the fifth anniversary of the Iraq invasion, the Democratic presidential candidate chose Fort Bragg's hometown to describe his plan to withdraw one to two combat brigades per month from Iraq, if he's elected. With current troop levels, that strategy would end the war in 16 months, he said.; 3/3/09, 3:24 PM
Michael said...: Alpha,

You and I are SO GREAT at bullshitting these wingnuts.

We both know good and well that Obama started the fight with Limbaugh.

But if we keep trying to make the wingnuts mad, we can continue to have fun.

By the way, I have some really great Michele Obama look alike porn for you, for your already large stash.

Call me.; 3/3/09, 3:29 PM
former law student said...: The Rush Limbaugh/Chelsea Clinton story appears on USENET some six weeks before the Molly Ivins column:

- This is perhaps the low point in this pig's career. It was a few months ago on in his TV show. He was flashing up pictures of White House happenings on the screen and said here comes a picture of the White House dog; up popped the poorest picture he could find of 13 year old Chelsea Clinton with braces glittering. He blamed it on a technical mistake. I am sure most of the his mindless moron listeners actually believed him.; 3/3/09, 4:33 PM
Peter V. Bella said...: His legacy is all over Chicago, which has more neighborhood councils, etc., than just about anywhere.

Reallllll? Legacy? Do you live in Chicago? Neighborhood councils? That is a joke right?

Let me clue you in sonny, those so called councils are nothing more than paper tigers. The minute one of them gains any notoriety or a semblence of power they are coopted by the corrupt Democratic machine and become a part of it. The same machine that found, nurtured, and pushed the ONE's career.

You really have no clue.; 3/3/09, 5:12 PM
former law student said...: The minute one of them gains any notoriety or a semblence of power they are coopted by the corrupt Democratic machine and become a part of it.

Hard to believe that all these pastors are corrupt:

United Power for Action and Justice
Executive Team Members:

Nick Brunick, Ascension Catholic Church, Oak Park
Richard Fung, St. James Catholic Church, Arlington Heights*^
Judith Gethner, Congregation B’nai Jehoshua Beth Elohim, Glenview
Arturo Gonzalez, Interfaith Leadership Project of Cicero & Berwyn
Judy Humowiecki, St. Giles Catholic Church, Oak Park*
Rev. Jarrett Kerbel, rector, St. Mary’s Episcopal Church, Park Ridge
Maggie Perales, Southwest Organizing Project, Chicago
Greg Pierce, St. Mary of the Woods Catholic Church, Chicago*
Richard Townsell, Lawndale Community Church, Chicago
Jacklyn Williams, Third Baptist Church of Chicago*
(* denotes Administrative Committee Members)
(^ denotes United Power Treasurer); 3/3/09, 6:23 PM
AlphaLiberal said...: Michael:

You claim Obama "started" the fight with Rush? We both know good and well that Obama started the fight with Limbaugh

From the january 26 article you cite as proof:
His comments followed a blunt attack on him by Mr Limbaugh, who declared on air that he hoped Mr Obama would fail as president because otherwise it will usher in socialism

Rush Limbaugh is a foul man. A liar and a hypocrite. And the leader of the GOP who can make Congressmen, Senators and Governors grovel before him.

He is the one you follow. Your leader.

Still he has a right to criticize the President. And we all have a right to criticize him back.; 3/3/09, 7:07 PM
JAL said...: And, Limbaugh (and, by ditto-ing Limbaugh, Ann Althouse) are bearing false witness to Mr. Alinsky.

Alinsky wrote:
"Tactics are those conscious deliberate acts by which human beings live with each other and deal with the world around them. ...

Here our concern is with the tactic of taking; how the Have-Nots can take power away from the Haves." (p.126)

False witness. Right.; 3/3/09, 10:01 PM
Peter V. Bella said...: Hey Alpha,
Suburbs like Berwyn abd Arlington Heights ARE NOT IN CHICAGO. The yare suburbs. As to the rest, preachers and marginal players. Youd do not live in Chicago so you are- as usual- talking out of your ass or looking on that stupid wikidikipikipedia. you are a real macaroon.; 3/3/09, 10:18 PM
Sofa King said...: And if I did...what's wrong with Obama telling people to ignore a radio entertainer's slant on politics?

It's none of Obama's damn business whose politics I listen to, and I for one would like to keep it that way.; 3/3/09, 11:49 PM
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Hoosier Daddy said...: Remember Candidate Obama? For at least a year now, Obama's been talking about withdrawing troops from Iraq over a 16 month period. Why do you want him to pull all of the troops out immediately?

Why 16 months? That's another 160 billion dollars more innocent Iraqis murdered, more American servicechildren killed and more enemies emboldened? I heard him repeatedely on the trail and in campaign ads promise he would end the war. If he can close Gitmo with the stroke of a pen, I'm sure a withdrawl order would take less time.

In other words, he lied and more people will die.; 3/4/09, 5:29 AM
KCFleming said...: Hard to believe that all these pastors are corrupt:

Really? It's not difficult in the least.; 3/4/09, 6:24 AM
Jim C. said...: AlphaLiberal said Somehow, I doubt the Great Pill Popper is accurately representing Mr. Alinsky.

I bow to your superior knowledge. According to Amazon Search Inside of Alinsky's book, on page 130 (paperback) that rule is number 13, not number 12.

And, Limbaugh (and, by ditto-ing Limbaugh, Ann Althouse) are bearing false witness to Mr. Alinsky.

Rush and Prof. Althouse owe everyone an apology and deserve our scorn commensurate with the error. And you deserve congratulations in the same measure.

former law student wrote, Seriously, who else is pompous enough an ass to think he's delivering his "first address to the nation"

If you had watched his CPAC speech as covered live by CNN, you'd know, as his audience did, he said it tongue in cheek. So "who else is pompous enough an ass"? You, apparently.

Michael wrote, It's always interesting to hear a multi-millionaire (billionaire?) lecturing the world on the way things really ought to be for the "common folk."

You're thinking of Ted Kennedy, right?; 3/4/09, 2:54 PM
former law student said...: If you had watched his CPAC speech as covered live by CNN

that would fall under the David Foster Wallace rubric of "A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again."

Plus, after the bursting of the housing bubble, CNN had to go.; 3/4/09, 3:25 PM