November 3, 2008

Why did Cheney endorse McCain? To hurt him?

Mark Daniels smells a Machiavellian scheme:
The fact is that Dick Cheney loathes John McCain. McCain went after the Bush Administration for what he saw as its incompetent conduct of the war in Iraq. Maybe even more unforgivable from Cheney’s viewpoint was McCain’s criticisms of the Bush Administration’s incarceration and interrogation techniques at Guantanamo.
Obama clearly enjoyed it:



Cheney had to know he would.

24 comments:

mccullough said...

No love loss there.

Also, Cheney is insecure because he's a draft dodging pussy while McCain's a war hero.

rhhardin said...

Cheney probably is putting country first. Obama would be a disaster.

Cedarford said...

Cheney is from the Bob Dole school of delicious, dark humor done by a very smart guy. Slipping the knife in, not clubbing with a baseball bat.
Cheney is not the only Republican that loathes McCain and his frequent betrayals and moral posturing as more moral and patriotic than others.

Perfect timing.

Wait until the last second to endorse a guy that has smeared you for 5 years - at the time of maximum stink bomb effect. Do it with a smile, knowing McCain could afford no more than a few seconds of red-faced teeth clenched rage between rallies.

Cheney made a lot of bad calls, but he was getting attacked enough by media and Democrats - to have much respect for McCain undermining the Administration on issue after issue purely for the greater glory of John McCain.

(There are betrayed Senators and Republicans from as far back as the Nixon administration that not only hope McCain will lose - they also think he cannot lose badly enough.)

I expect he will also have a measure of revenge in his memoirs against Powell and Armitage. For being the source of the Plame leak and being the Cabinet member who orchestrated it's coverup from being revealed from the Bushies or the public.

LoafingOaf said...

Incompetence in the war in Iraq, plus the evil, illegal support of torture. Yup, it's time for Cheney to get off the stage. Perhaps he should be on trial.

john said...

Ever since they got fooled by the ingenious Meiers - Alito fake handoff play, Democrats have known that Bush and Cheney were a formidable team. Then, when the Bush Treasury folks engineered the bailout plan solely to spoil McCain's election hopes, imagine their chagrin when Obama showed himself to be just as stupid.

So today, Cheney had to settle it, once and for all.

LoafingOaf said...

Cedarford sounds like a Bush/Cheney dead-ender.

Synova said...

If you accept what is clearly true... that there is no love lost between McCain and either Bush or Cheney, Obama's statements that McCain worked hard to get that endorsement, that McCain sought to be associated with Cheney... is a lie.

Obama can't win on issues?

But it's certainly true his audience loved it. He knew they would. He's been pairing McCain with Bush and his administration from the beginning, running against Bush although Bush isn't running.

And for the love of everything honest... if he continues in his Presidency (supposing McCain doesn't pull an upset) thinking it's really clever to insult people by pretending to praise them... wow, is that going to get old.

Henry said...

Cheney should have been great after 9-11. A no-nonsense, smart guy with tons of experience. Instead he turned into Dr. Strangelove. Cynicism trumped only by hubris. Good riddance.

Cedarford said...

LoafingOaf said...
Cedarford sounds like a Bush/Cheney dead-ender


Nope, just a bigtime appreciator of a masterful knife job on a posturing, widely distrusted Senator.

Kind of like the Democrat Senator that "defended" Kerry in 2004 by saying that he is not the most despised by staffers Senator. That would be Arlen Spector. A double-slam reminiscent of retired Senator Rudman noting that with Sen Bob Smith's primary defeat by Sunuunu, the mantle of stupidest Senator would soon pass to Barbara Boxer or Patty Murray - hitting a triple on colleagues he loathed but could never say as a sitting Senator.

Or Camille Paglia roaring in laughter as her fellow feminists fell on their swords for Bill Clinton and put to rest "sexual harassment" and their credibility in a lemming plunge off the cliff.

No, it was beautiful knifework, adroitly picked up by Obama to infuriate McCain further...and within the Party quite relished as a shot McCain had coming that won't affect the election outcome..

Just as Colin Powell knows his payback for covering up the Plame source is coming...

AlphaLiberal said...

No-one here knows what Cheney's motivations are. Sure, he's one twisted f*ck, but that brain is incomprehensible.

Dick Cheney is deeply anti-American. He has sought to recast American government in a an anti-democratic and authoritarian way. The unitary executive theory is clearly a crock and in violation of the Constitution and the Constitutional principles of 3 separate but equal branches, but he keeps pushing it.

He dragged America's good name through the mud with his embrace and promotion of torture. Even in WWII, America fought far greater threats than we face today without adopting the tactics of the scum of the earth.

My only hope for Dick Cheney is that he wind up in the dock at the Hague for war crimes. And then in a dark cell for the rest of his days.

Otherwise, nice day here!

Synova said...

Alpha, you forgot to remind us that he's got a lesbian daughter.

blake said...

Also, he shot that guy.

veni vidi vici said...

When I see statements like:

"Dick Cheney is deeply anti-American."

I know I'm in the presence of highly (self-)esteemed idiots.

Funny how the waterboarding of 3 guys has turned into a crime worse than the Nazi death machine to the left.

You know, in previous wars more of the enemy got killed in the field under take-no-prisoners conditions, rather than taken to Gitmo-type locales for extended Koranic study. How does that square with your views on the inhumanity of US conduct in the current war?

mccullough said...

VVV,

Cheney is anti-American because he has sent young soldiers far braver and better than he is to their deaths based on his (and Rumsfeld's) pet theories. When their theories were contradicted by facts they continually lied and blinded themselves with their ideology.

Again, Cheney is a draft dodging fucking coward. He couldn't carry McCain (or Kerrey's) jock.

Cheney should be drafted and sent to the front lines in Afghanistan or Iraq. Same with Rumsfeld. Time those cowards had a little skin in the game.

AlphaLiberal said...

Alpha, you forgot to remind us that he's got a lesbian daughter.

Not my bag. But as long as you bring it up, he failed to defend her or speak out against the hatred of homosexuals that runs rampant in the Republican Party.

Bender said...

McCain went after the Bush Administration for what he saw as its incompetent conduct of the war in Iraq.

No he didn't. McCain went after Bush and Cheney because he is McCain and they are Bush and Cheney. He went after the Administration because he is a contemptuous, self-centered fool who, by demonstrating his utter distain for Bush, did not endear himself to anyone, but only ended up justifying and legitimizing the very same Bush-hate that is being used against him now.

Ricardo said...

Oh, this is too easy. The Neo's want McCain to lose, because he would taint the rightness of the party with his reformness. Instead the Neo's are willing to concede the election, let Obama clean up the mess for the next four years, and then they'll run Petraeus in 2012 to knock Obama out of the White House. This way they don't have to clean up their own mess, and soon they'll be blaming everything on Obama (even the stuff from 2001-2008). It's the perfect storm for 2012.

chuck b. said...

I think McCain would have been a much better president than W. I guess that's damning with faint praise.

Cedarford said...

mccullough - Cheney is anti-American because he has sent young soldiers far braver and better than he is to their deaths based on his (and Rumsfeld's) pet theories. When their theories were contradicted by facts they continually lied and blinded themselves with their ideology.

Again, Cheney is a draft dodging fucking coward. He couldn't carry McCain (or Kerrey's) jock.


Spare us the chickenhawk bullshit.

If you had served in the military, and were any good at it and in a supervisory or executive position - you would know that military people and vets have a deep respect for others who contribute in service or in being great in what they do in the civilian sector.

If dumbass Lefties think that only career military people or men in combat have the moral authority to send men into battle - then by all means lets:

1. Exclude candidates like Obama, Romney, Hillary, Nader, Palin, Biden as unfit to be CiC.
2. Lets abandon civilian control of the military because Lefties think only those who "fought and duffered" should make policy that could get "heroes" killed or exposed to damger.
3. Maybe we could dispense with Presidential elections and just go with who the military istelf selects as Chair, Joint Chiefs of Staff.
4. Since most of Congress are "draft-dodging fucks", women who never served, suffered - and coward lawyers? Should votes on sending men into war even some women, and war funding - be limited to only those the Lefties argued (when Republicans ran things) that are Vets with Moral Authority?

PS - Dollars to donuts McCullough is a weasel-yellow belly who never "served! suffered!" himself.
Nor does the average ground pounder, squid, jarhead, or AF Queen have the slightest idea of geostrategy. And "combat!!" is not something that should be considered as an executive experience almost obligating the electorate to vote in a POW or a corporal with 2 Iron Crosses, but a testimony to bravery perhaps..

AlphaLiberal said...

Spare us the chickenhawk bullshit.

Oh, no way. There are so many Republican warmongers who, given the chance, did everything in their power to stay out of uniform. But they're always gung ho for the bombs away.

It's classic Republican hypocrisy.

If you had served in the military, and were any good at it and in a supervisory or executive position - you would know that military people and vets have a deep respect for others who contribute in service or in being great in what they do in the civilian sector.

Uh-huh. But we're not talking about military people. So that's a complete non-sequiter.

See, when we're talking about Chickenhawks like Cheney, we're talking about people who weren't in the military.

See? You're referring to people in the military. But Chickenhawks were not in the military. (As much as they love starting wars).

AlphaLiberal said...

Cedarford demonstrates that he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer:
If dumbass Lefties think that only career military people or men in combat have the moral authority to send men into battle - then by all means lets:

"Dumbass lefties..." Nice and civil.

You demonstrate poor comprehension. Liberals and lefties don't say these words. We don't believe them. This is your own strawman (and, don't forget, Cedarford, arguing with your own strawman is mental masturbation.)

We think that people who are very frequently eager to use the armed forces in international disputes and used all kinds of excuses to evade the draft (such as the pimple on Rush Windbag's ass) should STFU.

I mean, you've got the Kagan family. They think we're in a crisis requiring lots of bombing and killing and risking life and limb.

But it's not that important that they should sign up.

Hope I've clarified this for you, Cedarford.

Anonymous said...

Cheney is arrogant and solipsistic enough to think this endorsement will help McCain.

road warrior said...

Obama is really beating this into the ground isn't he. The liberal illuminati are just riding this "we are not Bush" card all the way home. I guess we will see if it worked tomorrow.

Fred4Pres said...

Cheney is a stupid dumbass. Biden has already hinted of war crimes in an Obama administration. Andrew Sullivan is downright giddy over Cheney, Rummy and others never getting to travel overseas, worried they may be sued or arrested if they land in Europe.