October 19, 2008
"Just to forewarn you, it's going to be nothing like anything you've ever seen before."
Barack Obama in Madison, this Thursday, in exactly the same location where John Kerry appeared, almost exactly 4 years ago. (I covered that Kerry rally here.) But it's going to be nothing like anything you've ever seen before. There were 80,000 of us on West Washington to see John Kerry. So what is the expectation with Obama? He got 100,000 in St. Louis, a crowd size the L.A. Times deemed "humongous." Seems as though will need to be well over 100,000 to meet that high expectation... and yet I can picture it happening.
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Is "forewarn" on Kinsella's list? Anyway based on the way people are expecting something that will never happen, I'm plenty warned, thank you very much
Big shockaroo if Obama manages to win the battleground city of Madison, Wisconsin!
There's an old political axiom - As goes Madison so goes Austin, Tx, Berkeley, Ca, Manhattan, Cambridge, Mass and so goes America.
It's not going to look as big as the Kerry rally. The SE Corner of the capitol means Obama faces the Monona Terrace. That gives you only two narrow block on MLK, the entryway and roof the Terrace, and spillover to about King and Hamilton. You just can't fit as many people in there as the W Wash corridor. The only way this becomes impressive is if people spill over not only to, but down King and Hamilton. Then, you need an areal view or someone on top of the dome by the statute with one hell of a fisheye lens.
I hear singer Carole King will be in our area on Friday, too, working for Obama.
Madison's the Berkeley of the Midwest, with snow, right?
Oh, that's Chicago and Hyde Park, I forgot.
You know where I think Obama ought to hold his rally? In the empty lot that was once an office that he and Ayers shared.
Forewarn him that he use no scurrilous words in his tunes.
--Perdita, Winter's Tale
Praemonitus praemunitus
Forewarned is forearmed.
Ominous word choice.
Just to forewarn you, it's going to be nothing like anything you've ever seen before.
That reminded me of an old Hindu saying: To be forewarned is to be four-armed . . . and four-headed.
Now, in the interest of full candor, I should say that Brahmā ain’t not like nothing I’ve not never seen before.
And that ain’t not none of this stuff.
Er . . . or not.
Oh, and if Michelle and Barack need someone to babysit their kids while they're at the rally, I am sure Ayers and Dohrn are available.
How'd that 80,000 work out for you, Senator Kerry?
I guess the Obama campaign is going for normative conformity versus informational conformity. Joe the Plumber equals how many Obamabots? We will know soon.
Will the Madison rally mark the commencement of 'spreading it around'? Will His Wonderfullness bring an armored car filled with George Soros's and Warren Buffet's money to the rally and distribute it to worthy non-rich peoples?
Sorta like the loaves and fishes thing, but better described as fifties and hundreds.
Does BHO pulling large numbers of peeps into a rally count as news anymore? It's so, so, July/2008.
Besides, the media doesn't seem to be covering it. There must be some vestigal requirement to cover Sarah's large crowds too.
Plus most of the folks at her rallys have, you know, jobs and kids, as opposed to facebook pages.
-XC
Let's see here.
When Palin stopped in the safe red state of West Virgina, the punditocracy said "see McCain even has to spend his time and money in safe states".
But when Obama has to campaign in safe stronghold states like New Hampshire and Wisconsin, the punditocracy does not ask the same question about Obama. In fact, this is what I hear [sound of crickets].
What about it Althouse? Give us some inside strategy from the Obama brain.
Maybe the Great Equalizer will take football points away from Big-10 teams who are point-wealthy and spread them around to the hapless UW Badgers; a point-poor team.
Bucky the Badger should get some points from Nittnay the Lion and Brutus the Buckeye.
Maybe there will be a Weatherman Underground reunion of Carleton the Bomber and William the Bomber.
Enjoy the rallies while they are voluntary!
AJ Lynch,
In 2004, Kerry won WI by 1% (50-49). In 2004, Bush won WV by 13% (56-43).
Jim:
My point exactly; polls indicate WI and NH are in the bag for Obama so why is he campaigning in those states??
AJ Lynch said...
Jim:
My point exactly; polls indicate WI and NH are in the bag for Obama so why is he campaigning in those states??
3:36 PM
P R O P A G A N D A
The powerful visuals of huge crowds coming out to adore him. The adulation of the worshiping masses. Etc...
It could be used in the next campaign ad, or the telling and moving documentary on how they won with huge support, everywhere! It can be used to intimidate the opposition: "You are going against the will of the HUGE majority of the country! Look at these crowds!"
It's a powerful weapon, and it works.
EKC:
That would be my guess too. But I wanted to hear it from Althouse.
What would you expect in Madison but large crowds hailing the new leider? Madison, after all, is a German town; they make beer and brats there. Germans always know how to play sucker to an orator that is promises to make things better by using the powers of the government.
Obama plans to visit all the state wealth redistribution centers before die Eroberung in January.
Just got back from the NC State Fair in Raleigh, and was amazed to see so many McCain stickers and buttons. I live to the west a bit, near the Madison of the Piedmont, the People's Republic of Chapel Hill, where one never sees anything but Obama signs and bumper stickers.
It is going to be interesting in this state, but not necessarily honest, in terms of voting or vote counting.
I guess Raleigh is a bit more conservative than I imagined it to be. Buckle your seat belts, election night is going to be as crazy as Bette Davis eyes.
Ann, I don't think you should go. He might walk over to you to talk and accidentally flub a question you ask. Then the media would be camped outside your house and reporters would be assigned to examine your taxes and divorce records. Better to lie low when that campaign is in town.
ElcubanitoKC said...
Enjoy the rallies while they are voluntary!
Oh, gosh! That was funny! And yet...so not funny. Sends a chill, actually.
I know this will never happen, but in case Althouse wants to do her civic duty let me suggest that she should try to ask BHO a tough question.
I'll bet if enough people came up with really tough, prosecutorial-style questions for her to ask she might just try to ask one of them.
She can get BHO's response on video, and then upload it to Youtube. And, she doesn't have to worry about a Joe the Plumber-style effect from the leftwing blogs: they've already "vetted" her, in Sully terms.
Some of my questions for BHO are linked from my highly effective plan to defeat Barack Obama.
If anyone doesn't want to spend the next 2+ years under one party authoritarian rule where any criticism of the Leader results in an attempt to destroy your reputation and drive you out of work, we need to defeat BHO and his friends in the MSM. At this time, there are only two ways to do that: either ask BHO questions to his face on video as described above, or "encourage" the MSM to release everything they've been covering up.
AJ Lynch said...
EKC:
That would be my guess too. But I wanted to hear it from Althouse.
4:06 PM
I am sure she understands it as well. I just thought I would help her keep her clean reputation with the Party apparatchicks.
darcy said...
ElcubanitoKC said...
Enjoy the rallies while they are voluntary!
Oh, gosh! That was funny! And yet...so not funny. Sends a chill, actually.
4:58 PM
I'm just saying... ;)
ElcubanitoKC said...
Enjoy the rallies while they are voluntary!
That's wicked funny.
Americans are a very, very difficult people with which to deal. Ask anyone in customer service. Our sheer buttheadedness may be our saving grace; that and the underground economy.
I was at the John Kerry rally 4 years ago solely to see Bruce Springfield and Dave Grohl play.
I think that that helped the turnout last time.
Now that I'm out of Madison, I won't be at this one, but does anyone know if Obama's touring with some class-a musical guests? He should if he wants to get to the 100,000 person threshold...
bjm, I'm counting on that!
Greatest Statement Yet by Early Onset Alzheimer's Joe:
"Undecided people are having a difficult time just culturally making the change, making the move for the first African American president in the history of the United States of America," the Democratic vice-presidential nominee said at a San Francisco fundraiser Saturday evening. "So we need to respond. We need to respond at the moment, immediately, not wait, not hang around, not assume any of this won't stick."
WHICH SIDE IS PLAYING THE RACE CARD?
From Hugh Hewitt (emphasis mine):
Joe's been getting briefed on the campaign's polling, no doubt, and he's never been able to keep the last thing he's heard from being the first thing he says, and here we have a glimpse of what the campaign's internals are showing: Obama cannot close the deal. Biden attributes this to racism, but the whole country is talking about Joe the Plumber and Obama's plan to institute a "grab and go" policy towards people's money. Biden himself is out stumping that it is patriotic to pay more in taxes, and of course voters are going to resist docking their own pay and opportunity to institute Obama-Biden's grand transfer of wealth scheme.
Krauthammer says he doesn't believe Obama anymore.
He ever believed him?
H/T maggie's farm.
Keeping in mind that the crowd in STL was estimated a little high, and included many many children who were out of school, as well as drawing from Kansas, Illinois and Kentucky residents.
Not "exactly the same location." The West Wash rally was huge, and potentially could have stretched down to Regent Street. The MLK corner of the Capitol is limited by the lake.
John Kerry was here on a beautiful fall day. The weather on Thursday will be dreadful.
Enjoy the demonstration while it's still voluntary. What a great line!
MadisonMan said...
John Kerry was here on a beautiful fall day. The weather on Thursday will be dreadful.
7:59 AM
Estimado compañero, MadisonMan, camarada, excuses excuses...You can rest assured that The One (PBUH) will part the clouds, stop the rain, and make the Sun shine for this most important event! So, compañero, I expect you will attend despite anything. Don't you want your face on the next great American epic documentary??
ElcubanitoKC, few things are more boring to me than political rallies. So no, I will not attend. I went to a Kerry rally once -- not the one Ann blogged at -- and one rally per lifetime is enough.
Heard on Milwaukee radio that this was cancelled. He must think the state is locked up.
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