September 12, 2008

Obama says he's going to get tough.

WaPo: "Obama Campaign Vows Aggressive Response to GOP Attacks." NYT: "Obama Plans Sharper Tone as Party Frets."

Why not just get tough? And we'll be the judge of whether you're tough.

Personally, I'd rather you show me you're going to get tough on our enemies... and not just that you're gearing up to go ballistic on Sarah Palin.

By the way, if I were judging those 2 newspapers based on those 2 headlines, I would say that it's WaPo that's trying to help Obama and the NYT is subtly mocking him. Vows vs. plans, aggressive vs. sharper, response vs. tone and, most tellingly, the difference in motivation: WaPo has Obama vowing to respond aggressively because the GOP is the first aggressor. The NYT has Obama planning to speak in a sterner voice because the people on his side are fretting. WaPo's Obama is a warrior in a grand battle. The NYT pictures a party of nervous worries and their candidate who's got the wrong tone of voice and who needs to make a plan to sharpen it.

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Joe said...

Well compared to the first interview Palin was much, much, better tonight but the editing still sucked. What the hell is wrong with ABC? Are all the good interns working GMA this week? Are they using AV Geeks from the Wassila Highschool? Seriously, for a supposedly professional news operation the lighting (in the first interview) and editing have sucked.

Anonymous said...

The best comment on this issue can be found at Ace of Spades, where the Village Idiot wrote:

I think they spent months trying to figure out how they can position Obama as better qualified than McCain, and basically came up with the fact that Obama can type.

I imagine The One is crying into his pillow tonight.

Synova said...

"Obama may have beat Hillary, but Sarah Palin has knocked her off the pedestal."

Curiously... it seems to have shifted things enough that I feel like I could actually *like* Hillary now. It started with "Better Hillary than Obama because even if she's evil, at least she's not stoopid." But now... now it's like, hey, maybe she's evil but everyone has quirks.

Anonymous said...

hey, maybe she's evil but everyone has quirks.

Laughing my butt off right now!

Fen said...

I think they spent months trying to figure out how they can position Obama as better qualified than McCain, and basically came up with the fact that Obama can type.

Ha. Next interview, ask Obama how many wpm he can type.

vbspurs said...

Seriously, for a supposedly professional news operation the lighting (in the first interview) and editing have sucked.

It was awful. Even the outdoor scenes at her Wasilla home were underlit. Sometimes her face was very bright, and her eyes even looked light green (they're dark hazel), whereas other times she looked like Rosie Perez, all nose and lips.

It was so distracting, that little details popped out at me.

She touched his arm at one point, and that seemed to melt him a little. He was actually laughing and being the affable Charlie Gibson of GMA during the Wasilla gym part.

And she parried the abortion and homosexuality questions very well, I thought.

I was talking to my boyfriend real-time, and he said she didn't seem doctrinaire.

I told him that's because of the perception MSM have put out there, that she's Cheney in terms of secrecy, and Bush in terms of Christianity.

This is a woman quite different from anything we've seen.

Sometimes she will falter because of that. But I feel instinctively, she will be much better than any of them, as time goes on.

Cheers,
Victoria

KCFleming said...

In Obama's next commercial, he should mock McCain's teeth.

Plus, he can't play golf!
Ha!

Oh yeah. And for like 5 years McCain was unemployed. And pretty much homeless.

Synova said...

In the mail today I got a glossy anti-McCain page from the Democratic Party of New Mexico.

"Three Alarming Facts About John McCain Every Woman Should Know."

And I wonder how well this sort of thing goes over. I notice that it *wasn't* printed in English and Spanish (the city of Albuquerque was thriving when the New England colonies were mostly a dream and informative things are generally bi-lingual).

As much as the Hispanic population tends Democrat, I doubt they are "all abortion, all the time".

But anyhow... the alarming things that *I* as a woman particularly need to know... John McCain is running on the Republican platform which would ban all abortions even in cases of rape and incest. (Are his personal views different from the Republican platform? I know he's pro-life.) He voted to criminalize doctors who support women in their reproductive choices, even when a woman's health is at risk. (This one makes me wonder what "support women in their reproductive choices" is a euphemism for and if "when a woman's health is at risk" is the old "any pregnancy presents a risk" attempt to make people think that women with truly dangerous pregnancies would me made to complete them. And third... since 1983 he has voted 125 times against "women's reproductive health choices." Which, for anyone paying attention is only ever a euphemism for anything and everything up to "complete freedom to abort a healthy fetus up to the day of labor."

Bush (Viva Bush!) scraped by in New Mexico last time because he was particularly popular with Hispanics because of his views on immigration and ability to speak Spanish.

I don't know that McCain will have that advantage, but if the state Dem party decides to make it all abortion all the time... they might do McCain's work for him. Maybe.

Because there is no real reason at all for the Hispanic population to be all excited about Obama's minority status. Our state income is heavily dependent on defense research and contracting. And aside from the extremely liberal Santa Fe with all of her very rich celebrities... it's a conservative place.

vbspurs said...

John McCain is running on the Republican platform which would ban all abortions even in cases of rape and incest. (Are his personal views different from the Republican platform? I know he's pro-life.)

He is pro-Life, but he is in favour of abortions in cases of rape and incest, Synova.

Neither he nor Palin have used their personal beliefs to put forward legislation reflecting them.

I feel I'm pretty much like Palin. I am strongly pro-Life, but I am a pragmatist who knows it will be difficult to override Roe v. Wade.

AlphaLiberal said...

7 machos, you would think after all those terrorist events the Bush-Cheney Administration, upon taking office, would take the terror threat seriously.

But, no, they focused on new Star Wars systems and turned away warnings of terror attacks as something Clinton was working on. And, you know of course, anything Clinton did is bead.

You forget:

August 6, 2001: George Bush receives memo title "Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US." Bush brushed this off to go cut brush with Barney the pooch. Bin Laden did indeed attack in US, one month later.

Ya got one of those for Clinton? Please stop passing the buck for your guy. It's embarrassingly desperate. Bush is just now getting serious about bagging bin Laden, for Pete's sake. (October surprise?)

AlphaLiberal said...

7 machos, you would think after all those terrorist events the Bush-Cheney Administration, upon taking office, would take the terror threat seriously.

But, no, they focused on new Star Wars systems and turned away warnings of terror attacks as something Clinton was working on. And, you know of course, anything Clinton did is bead.

You forget:

August 6, 2001: George Bush receives memo title "Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US." Bush brushed this off to go cut brush with Barney the pooch. Bin Laden did indeed attack in US, one month later.

Ya got one of those for Clinton? Please stop passing the buck for your guy. It's embarrassing. He's just now getting serious about bagging bin Laden, for Pete's sake. (October surprise?)

Revenant said...

7 machos, you would think after all those terrorist events the Bush-Cheney Administration, upon taking office, would take the terror threat seriously.

You'd have thought Reagan... and Bush Sr... and Clinton... and Bush Jr... and the American people, would have taken the threat seriously.

But they didn't. Neither did I. Hell, *you* STILL don't.

Synova said...

"He is pro-Life, but he is in favour of abortions in cases of rape and incest, Synova."

I suspected as much.

And I expect that the *other* two "Alarming" facts about McCains "Extreme" position are that the doctors criminalized for supporting women in their reproductive choices are those who... gasp... do abortions that are illegal where they are performed. And that... again, gasp... a good number of the 125 votes against "women's reproductive health choices" were things like "born alive" issues, late term partial birth abortions, and maybe (since I'm guessing) anything suggesting that minors might have to tell their parents they're having a medical procedure.

Things that *most* women don't support *either*.

On the issue of legality, I'm libertarian enough to recognize that abortion probably should remain legal, libertarian enough to refuse the idea that one human has the right to do violence to another just-because, and libertarian enough to figure that the most correct place to influence the issue is public opinion and pointing out that the smug lady on the political flier can have control and choice over her reproduction OR she can have an abortion to patch up the fact that she *doesn't* control her own reproduction. And say so, and also say that it's harmful to view some people as not-human. It's what we've done to justify the worst offenses throughout History.

It's just wrong.

Sloanasaurus said...

He is pro-Life, but he is in favour of abortions in cases of rape and incest, Synova.

I think it is an odd position to be pro-life while favoring abortions in the case of rape and incest. The child either has rights or it doesn't. The circumstances of his or her creation should not be an issue in that matter.

I consider myself a pro-life pragmitist. I think abortion is horrible. I think life begins at conception. As a father of an adopted vhild, it is sickening to think that my child's life could have been so easily terminated like millions of others.

However, in all practical terms large groups of people disagree with me and if it were outlawed, abortions would still take place (and I would not favor criminalizing it).

Instead I think we should keep abortion legal, but make it really hard to get abortions. Woman who seek abortions should first have to go through an ultrasound so they can see the beating heart of the child they are about to abort. There should be waiting periods, etc.., and abortions should not be publically funded.

The sickest thing about groups like NARAL is not that they support abortion, it's their opposition to programs designed to encourage women to reconsider abortion. Moreover these abortion groups spread their sick abortion evangilism to other countries where abortion is rare because of the culture.

It's a blessing that we have politicians like Sarah Palin that maintain the culture of life. It's something to hold on to.

Methadras said...

The editing job was so shamefully transparent that ABC should be obligated to re-air the entire thing unedited. Won't happen, but then again, they are taking their cues from MSNBC. Charles Gibson is a smug, smarmy, politically illiterate trog.

Methadras said...

Synova said...

ability to speak Spanish.


Kie-Yo-Tess!!!

Methadras said...

When the issue of abortion came up and Palin was talking about adoption, I really wanted her to say, "Look Charlie, celebrities go outside the country to adopt children from other countries for next to nothing, bring them back and raise them as Americans. Why don't they adopt American children? Because the system is to expensive and corrupt and as Vice President I will go out of my way to insure that the process of adopting American children is easier, cheaper, safer, and less of a hassle so every child in the system will have a family of their own. Adoption is the key to solving the abortion issue, but bureaucracy and the cost of it are the hurdles. We have to fix that."

vbspurs said...

Why don't they adopt American children?

Because some American celebrities wish to show they are international, inclusive, not racist.

Unlike Cindy McCain, they wish to have perfectly formed children from the get-go, too.

I laud anyone wishing to adopt any child. Certainly American adoption laws are very strict. But let's not kid ourselves why certain people adopt black or Asian kids, instead of going to the South of Brazil, where blond, blue-eyed German kids are available by the handful.

Cheers,
Victoria

blake said...

But let's not kid ourselves why certain people adopt black or Asian kids, instead of going to the South of Brazil, where blond, blue-eyed German kids are available by the handful.

Well, duh. They're worried that they're clones of Hitler!

AlphaLiberal said...

Obama-Biden Campaign: "McCain Would Rather Lose His Integrity Than Lose Election"

Works for me. Tough and true.

Anonymous said...

AL, you and the other Obamabots keep repeating that slogan, but you are not really substantiating it. You offer no examples. You offer no arguments on the matter.

Would it too much to ask for you to offer some of that?

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