Althouse: Brett.

August 7, 2008

Brett.

Jet.

81 comments:

Bissage said...: I haven't paid attention to football in decades.

How are Mr. Favre's knees?; 8/7/08, 10:41 AM
AllenS said...: Well, he was going to retire and that would have been that. Now, the Pack at least got someone in a trade that they wouldn't have gotten, had he simply retired. So, plus for the Pack.

Brett, I spett.

Do the NY Jets play in NY? I know that the NY Giants don't.; 8/7/08, 10:59 AM
garage mahal said...: Let the Brian Brohm era begin.

By game 8 hopefully.; 8/7/08, 11:00 AM
Peter V. Bella said...: He retired. He wanted to retire. He was all teary eyed when he announced his retirement. Did he really expect the Packers to welcome him back with open arms?

On the other hand he may do the Jets some good.; 8/7/08, 11:00 AM
Peter V. Bella said...: They could call him Broadway Bret!; 8/7/08, 11:00 AM
Paddy O said...: Old.

Trying to be bold.

Cold.; 8/7/08, 11:01 AM
Trooper York said...: Little Ol'Bretty will retire in a year anyway.

As we have seen before, people from Wisconsin can't hack it in the Big Apple for more than a year.

They miss the cheese.; 8/7/08, 11:07 AM
Trooper York said...: Plus the Jets just do what they always do.

Just Enough To Suck.; 8/7/08, 11:07 AM
MadisonMan said...: I wish him good luck in NYC. Too bad GB and the Jets don't play during the regular season. That would be an interesting game.; 8/7/08, 11:08 AM
KLDAVIS said...: The sports talk people think the Packers front office is crazy, but in the same breath they talk about how great it is to have this story reach a resolution. I actually heard one say that this story has "held the country hostage for the last month." Well, considering that Brett had been holding the franchise hostage for the entire off-season for going on 5 years, I'm glad the front office had the guts to trade him. I was at the NFC Championship game, and it was clear by the end that he was not committed anymore.; 8/7/08, 11:10 AM
MadisonMan said...: Trooper, I'm amazed that you can't get good cheese in the Big Apple. I thought NYC had everything.

I think this trade is good for the Packers and for BF. The Jets? They'll get to be the team where Brett wasn't started, ending his string.; 8/7/08, 11:14 AM
Trooper York said...: That is because he had the misfortune to run into the juggernaut which was THE WORLD CHAMPION NEW YORK GIANTS.

I went to training camp in Albany last week and we look ready to repeat. All of our running backs are out of jail now and we are ready to rock.

Did I tell you lately that the Giants won the Super Bowl?; 8/7/08, 11:16 AM
Trooper York said...: Madison Man we have great cheese. Cheddar, mozzarella, asiago, brie, head and toe. It's just some people like to be a big perch in a small pond. I think Ugly Bretty is in for a big surprise. Nobody is going to kiss his ass and if he think the press is tough in Green Bay, oh baby is he in for shock. They are going to rip him a new one from the get go.

New York does have everything. Now we have another over the hill guy.
As well as THE WORLD CHAMPION NEW YORK GIANTS!

Did I tell you lately that the Giants won the Super Bowl?; 8/7/08, 11:20 AM
Trooper York said...: The best thing about New York is that we are so modest.

You know we don't like to brag or anything like that there.; 8/7/08, 11:27 AM
EnigmatiCore said...: "All of our running backs are out of jail now"

Always an important consideration, I must admit.; 8/7/08, 11:27 AM
Peter V. Bella said...: Trooper York said...
The best thing about New York is that we are so modest.

You know we don't like to brag or anything like that there.

Aside from that, do the Red Sox still suck?; 8/7/08, 11:55 AM
Original Mike said...: I actually heard one say that this story has "held the country hostage for the last month.

Kinda makes one pine for the Gary Condit and shark attack days of August 2001.; 8/7/08, 12:00 PM
Trooper York said...: "Aside from that, do the Red Sox still suck?"

More than anyone in sports except for the girls auditioning for the Knick's City Dancers.

Allegedly.; 8/7/08, 12:01 PM
Anonymous said...: Too bad. Brett has just devolved from an iconic Green Bay quarterback to an old has-been with the Jets.

So, Trooper. Really like those adopted New Jersey Giants, huh? Heh heh heh...; 8/7/08, 12:02 PM
Original Mike said...: The terms of the trade were not announced, although it was believed to be for a fourth-round pick that, depending on Favre’s performance and the team’s results, could increase in value, all the way up to a first-round selection.

Does it drop to the 6th round when he throws 30 interceptions?; 8/7/08, 12:04 PM
Joaquin said...: Let me see if I get this.

Brett has missed camp.

He's going to have to learn a new offense.

He doesn't know the players.

He's probably good for 1 year.

He's been a complete head-case for the last 4 months.

He's going to play in the sports pressure cooker that is NY.

And the Jets are going to pay him $12 mil!
BWAAAAAA HA HA HA!!!!; 8/7/08, 12:09 PM
Trooper York said...: "So, Trooper. Really like those adopted New Jersey Giants, huh? Heh heh heh..."

Now, now let's not get crazy here. Just because your kid moves away to a nice house in the suburbs doesn't mean he's not your kid. Plus Jersey is just an apendage of New York. A suburb. Not a nice one like an arm or a leg. Or a breast. More like a bunion or a wart. But it is still part of your body.

When they had the parade it was down the Canyon of Hero's because they were in fact THE WORLD CHAMPION NEW YORK GIANTS!

Did I tell you lately that the Giants won the Super Bowl?; 8/7/08, 12:11 PM
Original Mike said...: I think you've summed it up nicely, Joaquin.; 8/7/08, 12:14 PM
Ruth Anne Adams said...: When you're a Jet, you're a Jet all the way, from your first cigarette to your last dyin' day...; 8/7/08, 12:17 PM
Trooper York said...: Headline in the New York Post after first game:

UGLY BRETTY FASHIONS DISASTER!

Throws six interceptions in first game.

Hee, hee.; 8/7/08, 12:18 PM
Anthony said...: This is about the best one could hope for. GB wasn't going to just let him go to play for a North rival, and they let him go to a team they likely won't play while BF is still playing.

I'm tending to put most of the blame for this on Favre. He's been acting like GB and the NFL should do his bidding.; 8/7/08, 12:20 PM
garage mahal said...: Trooper
You're supposed to act like you've been there before. I can see Viking fan being all excited if they won a SB cuz they've never won one, but the Giants have a few rings. Not as many as the Pack of course, but a few I think.; 8/7/08, 12:21 PM
Trooper York said...: Well garage, when you win the Super Bowl, especially an unexpected one like this, you have to take advantage of every minute you are WORLD CHAMPIONS.

Now the Packers have 9 NFL championships and 3 Super Bowls. The Giants have 4 NFL championships and 3 Super Bowls. So one way to look at it is that we are tied in the number of Super Bowls. You know I want to look at it like you do the 2000 election. So that my team wins. Or at least ties. And I ain't going to the Supreme Court.

Because no matter how you cut the cheese, THE NEW YORK GIANTS ARE WORLD CHAMPIONS.

Did I tell you lately that the Giants won the Super Bowl?; 8/7/08, 12:34 PM
Original Mike said...: 12 > 7.

Just sayin'; 8/7/08, 12:42 PM
Trooper York said...: You got me there Mike.

(But you still live in Tiny town, I mean Title town without a title and in the Big Apple we have THE WORLD CHAMPION NEW YORK GIANTS)

At least until the next Super Bowl.

Did I tell you lately that the Giants won the last Super Bowl?; 8/7/08, 12:46 PM
Trooper York said...: Plus, going by Super Bowls it's Dallas and the Steelers and the
49'ers that we all have to catch. Just sayn'; 8/7/08, 12:50 PM
Original Mike said...: Do THE WORLD CHAMPION NEW YORK GIANTS play the Jets this year?; 8/7/08, 12:51 PM
Trooper York said...: We play the annual exhibition game on August 23 so that's the only time we see Ugly Bretty and I doubt if he will play more than the first quarter.

We have a tough schedule this year and I think the final game against Minnesota on December 28 will tell the tale if we make it to the playoffs.; 8/7/08, 1:00 PM
garage mahal said...: Trooper
If my team hadn't won so many world titles, I'd pretend they didn't count either. And I don't think New Jersey plays New York this year....; 8/7/08, 1:00 PM
Trooper York said...: Now I freely admit that Green Bay has the most titles. That was only because Wellington Mara knew that league couldn't survive if we dominated like the Yankees did in baseball. So he sent them Vince Lombardi and Landry to Dallas to give them some time in the sun. The Giants could have used their clout to stop revenue sharing and dominated the league because they had the most money and clout by far. Not very capitalistic now was it? In fact Wellington shared out the money taking from the rich to give to poor almost as if he was a dirty commie. So you see garage, you really should be a Giant fan.

Plus Sam Huff looks a lot like Hillary. They have the same ankles. Just sayn’; 8/7/08, 1:08 PM
Original Mike said...: Ahh, what might have been Trooper. Reportedly, Favre wanted to play for the Vikings in the worst way. Just think, he could have finished another season completing a pass to THE WORLD CHAMPION NEW YORK GIANTS.; 8/7/08, 1:12 PM
Trooper York said...: You know if the Jets trade him to Minny they have to give Green Bay three Number one picks. So if I was the Jets, I would just trade him there for four number 1's. I mean with Ugly Bretty playing for the Vikings they have to have better picks.; 8/7/08, 1:16 PM
Trooper York said...: Hey I just heard Mort call WFAN and tell Mike and the Mad Dog that the Jets are racist because they didn't get Randall Cunningham.; 8/7/08, 1:17 PM
Original Mike said...: You know if the Jets trade him to Minny they have to give Green Bay three Number one picks.

Really?; 8/7/08, 1:20 PM
garage mahal said...: Now I freely admit that Green Bay has the most titles.

That's a great first step on the road to recovery :); 8/7/08, 1:28 PM
Trooper York said...: Yes that's one of the conditions. Now as a business person, I would say ok, you can't tell what to do if I abide by our contract. So trade him in a Herschal Walker type deal where you get four #1's and 3 number #2's or something like that.

But the Jets aren't smart enough to do something like that.; 8/7/08, 1:30 PM
Trooper York said...: Don't push it garage. Some of those titles were won in Florida and I might demand a recount.; 8/7/08, 1:31 PM
Palladian said...: So who is this Favre person again?; 8/7/08, 1:33 PM
Trooper York said...: His real name is Ugly Bretty and he's moving his show to New York this season.; 8/7/08, 1:34 PM
Original Mike said...: The possibility of the Jets turning around and trading him the next day hadn't even ocurred to me. I'm glad we have Top Men looking after these things.; 8/7/08, 1:36 PM
Trooper York said...: I don't think they can do it the next day but they definately could do it during the season. But football isn't baseball and it takes time for the player to learn the offense. That's why this will be a total disaster for the Jets. Farve is going to ignore the playbook and improvise the offense.
How do you think that's gonna work out?; 8/7/08, 1:38 PM
Original Mike said...: Farve is going to ignore the playbook and improvise the offense.

It seems like that's what he's been doing these past 17 years, and the results have been spotty. My sadness at this turn of events is very much tempered by the memory of all those times I've yelled, "Damn it, Favre!" at my TV set.

If I had to bet, I'd bet against the Favre-led Jets.; 8/7/08, 1:48 PM
Tank said...: Troop, before we dis Brett too much, let us remember, with less than fondness, the tag-team they've been playing at QB for a couple a years. Mr. youngster/no ezperience/not proved anything yet and Mr. Ouchie (oooooh, I injured my _______________ [whatever's next]).

Did I mention that I live 10 miles from Giants Stadium, home of the WORLD CHAMPION NEW YORK GIANTS ?

My wife and I still laugh out loud everytime one of us says it. I'll always love Favre for that last pass in Green Bay.

The other phrase we love is:

18 and ........ one

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA; 8/7/08, 1:57 PM
Trooper York said...: Hey Rd, I bet I pulled over and puked on your lawn. At least once.

GO BIG BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!; 8/7/08, 1:59 PM
reader_iam said...: Did I tell you lately that the Giants won the last Super Bowl?

Well, no, as a matter of fact. It's been a whole ten Trooper comments ago.

Signed,

She Who Likes The Red Sox Even More Since Learning Trooper Says They Suck; 8/7/08, 2:22 PM
reader_iam said...: Don't give a rat's ass about football, except insofar as enough Chiefs games aired, somehow, locally to keep DH from falling into a grumbling depression.

This fall (read, end of August), I'm gonna INSIST we switch to satellite. A bargain at the price.; 8/7/08, 2:24 PM
Original Mike said...: So trade him in a Herschal Walker type deal ...

Think the Vikings would be stupid enough to do that twice?; 8/7/08, 2:25 PM
Trooper York said...: Well they do live in Minnesota!

(bone thrown to Packer fans in Wisconsin who did lose the championship game to THE WORLD CHAMPION NEW YORK GIANTS)

(P.S. Did I tell you lately that the Giants won the Super Bowl?); 8/7/08, 2:34 PM
Trooper York said...: Signed,

She Who Likes The Red Sox Even More Since Learning Trooper Says They Suck

Well under that theory you should be feeding your family Brussel Sprouts for the next month. Because that's the only thing that sucks more than the Red Sox.; 8/7/08, 2:35 PM
David said...: "When you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way . . . ."; 8/7/08, 2:37 PM
reader_iam said...: I like Brussels sprouts. I ate them even as a small kid. I even ate them with liver.

And my family likes Brussels sprouts. (But not liver.)

So there.; 8/7/08, 2:45 PM
reader_iam said...: My little brother wouldn't, and won't, eat either, however, and come to think of it, he was a Giants fan for many years, before he converted to the Eagles. And he's never been a Red Sox fan. There must be a connection.

Did I ever mention that my DH's little sister was an Eagles cheerleader at one time? (No connection with my brother's conversion.)

Now, neither she nor anyone in her family will eat Brussels sprouts or her liver, and they've never been Red Sox fans. Yep, a connection.

/inanity

(I think.); 8/7/08, 2:49 PM
reader_iam said...: I mean "any" liver, not specifically HER liver.

Gross.; 8/7/08, 2:51 PM
Trooper York said...: Life is all interconnected. If you grow up a Yankee fan you grow up a Giant fan. If you grow up a Met fan you grow up a Jets fan. If you grow up loving mom, apple pie, cheverolet and captialism you are a Republican. If you grow up loving the nanny state, tofu, Prius electric cars and socialism you are a Democrat. One leads to the other. Ying and yang. Alphaliberal and Omegaman. You can't escape your fate.

Even if you get traded. If you go to the Jets you are fated to be a red headed step child.

Give that man some Brussel Sprouts.; 8/7/08, 2:55 PM
Original Mike said...: Brussel sprouts. Yum yum.; 8/7/08, 2:56 PM
reader_iam said...: This one's for you, Troop.; 8/7/08, 3:04 PM
Trooper York said...: Brussel sprouts are the atrophied testicles of the vegetable world.; 8/7/08, 3:07 PM
Original Mike said...: Try them with garlic butter, Troop.; 8/7/08, 3:09 PM
reader_iam said...: Or with garlic and pretty music and then butter them.; 8/7/08, 3:12 PM
Trooper York said...: NO, NO a thousand times NO!

Brussel Sprouts are an evil plan to destroy America. They are cultivated by Euro bureaucrats in Brussels and are have computer chips implanted in them which when ingested will lead you to want socialized medicine and higher taxes. Brussel Sprouts are only eaten by a defeated people who have given up their god given rights to potatoes fried in Trans fat. NO I say, a thousand times NO!!!!!!!; 8/7/08, 3:15 PM
MadisonMan said...: Trooper, your bs problem (brussel sprouts) occurs because you buy them in NYC. Try them straight off the farm like we do here in WI, after the first couple frosts. Lightly roasted with some butter.

Delicious!; 8/7/08, 3:20 PM
Trooper York said...: Now I understand your liberal orthodoxy Madison Man. You have ingested this evil vegetable which has poisoned your mind. You only "think" they are fresh off the farm. In fact they are smuggled into places such as Madison, New York City, San Francisco and Ann Arbor to indoctrinate the elitist cadre who will try to take over our sweet America. It all started in Stepford Connecticut. So many people were infected that they almost threw out good old Joe Lieberman. Luckily, meat and potato voters managed to beat them off. Wait that came out wrong. They managed to defeat them.

The Duke hated Brussel Sprouts.

And Communists.

And the Jets.

That's good enough for me.; 8/7/08, 3:27 PM
AllenS said...: Brussel sprouts are the closest thing that a vegetable can get to being called meat.; 8/7/08, 3:38 PM
Original Mike said...: So how do you explain me, Trooper? Am I immune to the evil power of B.S.?; 8/7/08, 3:40 PM
Trooper York said...: All I know is that if Mort were awake and he saw that video where you had a white woman force a black man to eat a Brussel Sprout, why he would tell you it was racist.

And he would be right.; 8/7/08, 3:42 PM
Trooper York said...: "So how do you explain me, Trooper? Am I immune to the evil power of B.S.?"

You just have a lot of will power so you can fight off the deadly impulses that are being transmitted in your head. But it is impairing your judgement to a terrible, terrible degree and leading to an unforturnate level of limited mental acuity. I mean you are a fan of the derilict Green Bay Packers when you could switch to THE WORLD CHAMPION NEW YORK GIANTS.

The Giants never serve Brussel Sprouts on their training table spreads. They are real Americans.

Frank Gifford never ate a Brussel Sprouts. Although he probably ate out Katie Lee so his judgment is suspect.

But none the less, Lawrence Taylor never ate a Brussel Sprout. Although he did try to snort one once but that doesn't count.

Hey did I tell you lately that the Giants won the Super Bowl?; 8/7/08, 3:48 PM
reader_iam said...: Good grief.

And you're siccing Mort on me?!?

Oh, well, I'm leaving town at dawn tomorrow anyway.; 8/7/08, 4:03 PM
Trooper York said...: Don't worry, he's still asleep.

But you have to admit, there was a subtext there let me tell you!; 8/7/08, 4:09 PM
Trooper York said...: I mean the guy's name was Tyrone. Seriously.; 8/7/08, 4:14 PM
Peter V. Bella said...: Now we know why the Red Sox suck. They eat Brussel Sprouts.; 8/7/08, 4:44 PM
Anthony said...: Did I ever mention that my DH's little sister was an Eagles cheerleader at one time?

Y'all's not supposed to throw out something like that without providing a link to photos.

Ummmm, just to demonstrate that you're telling the truth. Yeah, that's it. . . .; 8/7/08, 4:49 PM
KLDAVIS said...: I haven't seen any credible report regarding repercussions if the Jets trade him to Minnesota. I think the league is too small for them to kill their relationship with another team by being that stupid.

However, if the deal did require additional compensation for the Jets trading him to the Vikings, there's nothing stopping the Jets from working a deal through an intermediary team where each of them would likely get more than the Packers got.; 8/7/08, 4:52 PM
Trooper York said...: KLdavis, check the story in the New York Daily News, which states that the Jets have to give up three #1's if they trade him to the Vikings. A three way trade is very tough in training camp because of the salary cap although it could be done. I think it is just too complicated and why would anyone want to help the Jets. Plus the Jets don't have a problem screwing another team, look how they ratted out those cheaters in New England. The Jets are not only losers but they are rats as well.

They will do Just Enough To Suck.; 8/7/08, 4:58 PM
KLDAVIS said...: The Jets say, "Hey, Cincinnati...the Vikings are willing to give a first and second rounder for Favre. I'll trade him to you for a first and third."

Done. Every team benefits, except GB.; 8/7/08, 6:31 PM
Stefan Petersen said...: I can't stand watching Brett cheapen his career by playing for the Jets. Nothing against the Jets directly (I would have felt this way with any other team), but Brett has always been a Packer (Falcons don't count) and should be remembered as a Packer. He decided to retire, and the Packers moved on (rightly so), but to ask for reinstatement, then look elsewhere and act happy about it cheapens the career of a Hall of Fame quarterback. The drama will overshadow his career, for sure.

As for the Packers, they were and will be in the right for moving on, and moving forward. At least the drama is over.; 8/7/08, 10:44 PM
vbspurs said...: As for the Packers, they were and will be in the right for moving on, and moving forward. At least the drama is over.

1- Brett Favre was wrong not to hang them up when he said he would.

2- The Packers were wrong to plant stories in the papers, and to basically mistreat the best thing that happened to them in the form of a player since like, forever.

3- We Dolphins fans are greatful for a chance at getting Chad Pennington, despite his injury-proneness. He's a stud.

4- Anyone watch There's Something About Mary?

5- This whole story of Brett Favre leaving stinks. There are no winners.

Cheers,
Victoria; 8/7/08, 11:54 PM