Robin: "Batman, maybe I should stay home tonight. Homework, you know." Batman: "I think you should acquire a taste for opera, Robin, as one does for poetry and olives." (Batman TV Show, 1966)
I've worn contacts since I was 13, but I take them off late at night. That picture was taken after midnight, writing a take-home exam that was due in the morning. I also had a new baby, and we were living in a studio apartment. The glasses -- which were magenta colored -- were in vogue, the style worn by Diane Keaton in "Annie Hall." The hair, however... I cut it myself in those days and it was pinned up without any attempt at making a style.
Of course. Mary Ann is a pothead. Ginger has been around. I always tried to play out of my league back in the day. That's the only way you can get better. Almost never works out. Almost.
Everyone looked, and still looks like that today, like a bad night in town or just bucked off of a steer, when in the middle of a cram session or last minute paper. Jeeze Louise, people. (Besides, she was also changing nappies and feeding the infant.)
In retrospect, she hit the gong: graduated, now a member of a law school faculty teaching new lawyers (Do we really need any more? I guess we do.), and has, by all observance, produced a respectable son (methinks two, but I could be wrong).
So, those of you who want to take a shot at Ann... What can you show for your last 30 years of of carbon production?
Mary Ann and Bailey are nice safe econ-o-box Hondas; good mileage, yadda, yadda, yadda. But Jennifer and Ginger are Ferrari-esque! Expensive to buy, to run, and to fix, but mama mia, what performance!
Well said Ron. Sometimes you have to step up to the plate against someone a lot better than you. But if you can get the wood on it, it will go a long long way.
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Oops, I left my comment on the original post. But I wanted to say you bear a striking resemblance to another 80s icon, Marshall Crenshaw, on the cover of his "Field Days" album here:
OT: I just participated in one of those phone survey things (a l-o-o-ong one, and detailed). One of the first questions was: "Have you accessed the internet at any time in the last 30 days?" LOL. /OT.
A. Whitney Brown used pre-Whit Stillmanesque rambling monologues, which were steeped in seering Ivy League vocab. His monologues sound like an unctuous McGeorge Bundy making a point about Mikoyan. You prided yourself you got half of them.
No Youtube clips capture his old SNL persona, so I won't link to them.
Ok, so now I'm getting such things as (will spare the reproduction) promo mugs, studying IP law in China, law school gifts, getting into law school, superhero capes for children and something have to do with--hell, don't ask me!!--"Certified RN Coatings, Blank Sublimation Mugs and Tiles."
Didn't that A Withney Brown dude do a real nasty you tube video saying he doesn't support the troops or something like that? I seem to remember something like that from a few months ago.
Janet over Chrissy. Rhoda over Mary. Betty over Wilma. Trixie over Alice. The Scarlet Witch over Sue Storm. Rosie Palm over Sarah Jessica Parker.
Wow, I have no idea who half these ladies are (or vaguely know). I think Trixie and Alice are from the Honeymooners, which I've never seen.
How about this other Gen X version:
Daphne over Velma Smurfette over Miss Piggy Justine Bateman over Molly Ringwald Blair over Dana Plato Mr. T over Lou Ferrigno Scott Baio over anyone but especially Ralph Macchio Andrew McCarthy over James Spader Remington Steele over Bruce Willis Susanna Hoffs over Pat Benatar
Sean Connery over David Craig Richard Burton over Peter O’Toole Keith Richards over Mick Jagger Peter Tosh over Bob Marley. Albert Brooks over Marv Albert Woody Allen over Woody Hayes Barney Ruble over Fred Flintstone Hoss Cartwright over Little Joe. Ross Poldark over Ross Gellar.
Hey big and stupid and cuddly and loyal over skinny pretty boy. But it doesn't really matter because you would only last one episode before a rock fell on you or you got eaten by a bear or something. The only thing more dangerous was beaming down to the planets surface with Bones and Spock and the Kirk. You were certain to be turned into a pillar of salt while Kirk was boning some green chick.
Yeah have you seen Justine Bateman lately. I'm all for looking like your real age but she got more lines on her face than Lindsey Lohan's bathroom countertop. She needs a freakin' sandwich stat to fill in her shrunken mug. Damn she got fugly.
Bruno Sammartino over Hulk Hogan. The Fabulous Moolah over Ms. Elizabeth. Joan Blondell over Joan Collins. Cindy Lauper over Madonna. David Bowie over Bowie Kuhn.
"Back to Ann. WHY do you think they put up that decades old photo of her without her permission?"
It's not "they," it's David Lat. He and I are on very good terms. It's an inside joke to post my picture like that. I totally get it, think it's funny, and feel flattered.
I had to let that one pass. It's too easy. Plus Titus is sensitive. Plus he’s interesting because now he is rubbing the nub of the crux if you know what I mean. And I am curious.
titusgetme the ax!!!! said... "I bet you intimate men."
How do you "intimate" a man?
"I think most of these men who post on here secretly desire you."
What Blake said. On one level or another, that's probably true. It's most true of all for the critics - the anti-althousiana who hide subconscious lust behind exaggerated disdain.
I actually had the pleasure of having Althouse as a prof in law school -- though I was a terrible and infrequent attender, the 8 a.m. time slot having a lot to do with it. She was certainly easier on the eyes than any of the other law profs. And her lectures were very good -- lucid, cogent, and chock full of information. She gave us our money's worth. If your mind was focused on learning a lot about Conflict of Laws, you certainly could. On the other hand, if you were overly susceptible to mild amazement at the spectacle of an attractive older woman exuding uber-intelligence, you might have a tougher time of it.
John Kidwell was probably the best, though. Hard telling how many nefarious liberal contract doctrines he successfully instilled in us unwittingly with his drily humorous, entertaining style.
Yeah, a back story that is kind of self-indulgent of me to mention in this context, since it makes no sense to anyone else without going into it. Suffice to say, I have personal reasons for being disgusted with certain failures of certain segments of the government, which makes the IRS' robberies even more galling, when I reflect that we're all being forced to pay for things that are utterly contemptible. So nowadays, instead of being bitter about what I perceive as "failures" of the government, I've come to believe that we should ask not what our government can do for us -- and that we should insist more and more on only paying for what we've asked for.
Okay, maybe I've got my facts wrong. I certainly wasn't trying to make things up. This was back in 1999. 9 a.m. would have been too early for me too. Like I said, I wasn't in the class very often. I guess it must have been Federal Jurisdiction. I think I was torn that semester between taking Fed. Jur. and Conflict of Laws. Maybe that's where I got confused. If it was Fed. Jur. I took, I admit that's pretty damn sad that I thought I'd taken a Conflict of Laws class that I never in fact took in my law school career.
Geez, Ann, I try to be all complimentary and stuff and you prove me a liar. I think you know who am, don't ya? Published Fall 1998 issue of Wisconsin Law Review? John K.? Law review article notorious enough to be distributed to every member of U.S. House of Reps by Congressman Dave Weldon, M.D.? I've been hanging around here for a while.
It's not "they," it's David Lat. He and I are on very good terms. It's an inside joke to post my picture like that. I totally get it, think it's funny, and feel flattered.
What! What a setup. You knew the answer to your "How is this" question all along.
Obviously I was one of those students in the second of the two categories I mentioned above -- the ones who were "overly susceptible to mild amazement at the spectacle," and who therefore had trouble concentrating on Conflict of Laws or Federal Jurisdiction or whatever it was :)
What's even more embarrassing is I think I might have alluded before on this very blog to my supposed 8 a.m. "Conflict of Laws" class with Althouse and I think I might have been corrected before by Althouse in the exact same way. What kind of numb-skulls are you accepting to that law school, anyway?
While I'm eating crow in these multiple postings, let me just clarify that I thought John Kidwell was a great prof and a very good guy, liberal or not. I actually don't recall whether he was all that liberal or not. I just remember he was a great prof. It's dangerous and potentially misleading to alternate too suddenly between attempts at wry but affectionate humor regarding people you may disagree with politically and genuine straightforward bitterness towards the actual carrying out of bad political ideas by government agents.
John K... I figured you may have meant 8:50, which I have done, but how can you mix up Conflict of Laws and Federal Jurisdiction? I mean, I believe you that I did, but it was just pretty weird that you got the 2 facts wrong.
Victoria: "What! What a setup. You knew the answer to your "How is this" question all along. I'm not playing with you anymore, Ann."
I think if you look back, you will see that this is true of many, many post. For a law professor, this is a classic form of expression.
Ann said: "John K... I figured you may have meant 8:50, which I have done, but how can you mix up Conflict of Laws and Federal Jurisdiction? I mean, I believe you that I did, but it was just pretty weird that you got the 2 facts wrong."
Apparently, never having taken Conflict of Laws, I don't have a clear idea of what the class might have been about, making it easier to mix it up with whatever:) But I distinctly remember taking the exam for your class and sweating profusely over the fact that I hardly ever went to class. That was a missed opportunity on my part, since I remember the few times I went to class as being very worthwhile. Fortunately, I was relieved when I scored a reasonable grade, though far from stellar.
"Remember back in the day when you were idealistic about the law school experience, touring campuses, and trying to decide where to go to become a top-notch attorney?"
Um, no I don't. I was working as a patent agent in my company's law department, when the general counsel came by one day and said, "We like you. We like your work. But you're the only non-attorney professional in the department and if you want to stay here, you'll have to go to law school."
I didn't even want to go. You can imagine how much fun I never had. Although it was kinda cool talking back to the occasional gasbag professor knowing I probably made more money than he did. That and the ignorant twit in corporations class asking the professor, "What's a mortgage bond?" and thinking, "I'm getting an A in this class. Bwahahahah!"
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Top of the class at NYU, Federal Clerkship, Sullivan & Cromwell...
Maybe because you must have kicked a** in law school?
So, you wear contact lenses now?
Robin: "Batman, maybe I should stay home tonight. Homework, you know."
Batman: "I think you should acquire a taste for opera, Robin, as one does for poetry and olives."
(Batman TV Show, 1966)
Lots of books, harried look, no time for grooming.
Take a little of a young Susan Sarandon.
And a dab of Celia Johnson in Brief Encounter.
Put on a pair of Benny Hill glasses, and watch her bloom into the woman before you.
has come to represent The Law Student?
From CBS Sports yet! Weird.
But flattering that the image is so iconic, it still resonates 30 years hence.
Cheers,
Victoria
I've worn contacts since I was 13, but I take them off late at night. That picture was taken after midnight, writing a take-home exam that was due in the morning. I also had a new baby, and we were living in a studio apartment. The glasses -- which were magenta colored -- were in vogue, the style worn by Diane Keaton in "Annie Hall." The hair, however... I cut it myself in those days and it was pinned up without any attempt at making a style.
From CBS Sports yet! Weird.
The old picture of Ann A. is not at the CBS Sports site, just at the Above the Law site.
Wow, nice rack!
When you've got a lot you have to keep them up there properly displayed.
Me, I have my books all over the place.
All that legal training, tenure, good blogging and general coolness and how do they greet you? "Wow, nice rack!"
Well, I suppose I shouldn't carp, being nicknamed "Tripod" and all...
Sarandon, I see...Celia Johnson?
I'm thinkin' Tina Fey with better, more vortexy hair...
I agree with the "Baily Quarters/Jan Smithers" look, as pointed out in the comments of the long-ago post.
Its the bangs, the quizzical look and .....ahem....the tee shirt.
Really? I'm thinking Tracy Gold in Growing Pains before she stopped eating.
Hey! Whatever happened to Johnny Nucleo?
I also miss the period when RLC would make an occasional appearance in comments. But then, I miss his blog, too.
And, once again, seeing that picture made me think of "Girlfriends," which I see I noted on that old post.
Nice rack? You mean nice feeders (new baby, duh).
Don't they have to acknowledge using this photo, can't you sue them for using it without permission?
Ann,
It hardly seems fair to use your picture for the post and then list as one of their favorite suggestions: "14. Don't go to the Midwest for law school"
Not that you went to law school in the midwest, but it is where you (usually) teach.
Plus who wants to look at the caterpillar when you can see the butterfly.
Well, I suppose I shouldn't carp, being nicknamed "Tripod" and all...
I heard that about you.
Sarandon, I see...Celia Johnson?
Yeah, a bit of a stretch on my part. Although Ann is not a natural blond, as we can see, she isn't as dark as Celia either.
But she has big saucers eyes like the fabulous Celia did, and that photo has a general British look to it.
One of my best friends at school, Pippa, who we called enigmatically called Pork-Pie, had a very similar photo taken of her.
I'm thinkin' Tina Fey with better, more vortexy hair...
I think you may have something there, Ron!
Speaking of SNL and being cute back in the day, I always had a thing for A. Whitney Brown.
Even the fact that he was too liberal for Air America, doesn't deter me.
Cheers,
Victoria
Victoria,
I remember exactly one of his jokes: I am A Whitney Brown, someday I hope to be THE Whitney Brown.
I remember him being funny, just can't remember any other of his lines...
Baily Quarters. Sigh.
Baily was cute but she was no Jennifer Marlowe. She had it all. Looks. Smarts. Personality. Venal spirit. The works.
I always felt I could save her from Burt Reynolds. Sigh.
Are you kidding me, Trooper? Next you'll tell me you'd take Ginger over Mary Ann.
Ralphie Parker - A Christmas Story (1983)
Of course. Mary Ann is a pothead. Ginger has been around. I always tried to play out of my league back in the day. That's the only way you can get better. Almost never works out. Almost.
I'm totally there with ya, Trooper! Lonnie Anderson was tha deal, except for that whole Burt thing...
I will grant you the following:
Janet over Chrissy.
Rhoda over Mary.
Betty over Wilma.
Trixie over Alice.
The Scarlet Witch over Sue Storm.
Rosie Palm over Sarah Jessica Parker.
You see I much prefer brunettes. And Loni was a natural brunette. I have seen the proof. Not in person. But the internets is a wonderful thing.
Everyone looked, and still looks like that today, like a bad night in town or just bucked off of a steer, when in the middle of a cram session or last minute paper. Jeeze Louise, people. (Besides, she was also changing nappies and feeding the infant.)
In retrospect, she hit the gong: graduated, now a member of a law school faculty teaching new lawyers (Do we really need any more? I guess we do.), and has, by all observance, produced a respectable son (methinks two, but I could be wrong).
So, those of you who want to take a shot at Ann... What can you show for your last 30 years of of carbon production?
All in jest, I hope you know.
Mary Ann and Bailey are nice safe econ-o-box Hondas; good mileage, yadda, yadda, yadda. But Jennifer and Ginger are Ferrari-esque! Expensive to buy, to run, and to fix, but mama mia, what performance!
Well said Ron. Sometimes you have to step up to the plate against someone a lot better than you. But if you can get the wood on it, it will go a long long way.
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Did everyone here miss the third line in jdeeripper's comment.
I think he was doing one o' dem double-entendres.
But one o' de entendres done fell off.
Right up your alley, guys.
Hey if I post the lyrics to Mother Macree to celebrate Mother's Day will the ads change again?
Well it's really your pal Rh Hardin who has those fowl fancies don't you know.
blake said...Did everyone here miss the third line in jdeeripper's comment.
I think he was doing one o' dem double-entendres.
But one o' de entendres done fell off.
Yeah. I think some of the guys had double vision that interfered with their reading comprehension.
Oops, I left my comment on the original post. But I wanted to say you bear a striking resemblance to another 80s icon, Marshall Crenshaw, on the cover of his "Field Days" album here:
http://www.amazon.com/Field-Day-Marshall-Crenshaw/dp/B000AP302U
Being analogized to Marshall Crenshaw is the dream compliment every woman longs to hear...what, not skinny enough to be Buddy Holly?
If he says you remind him of Captain Beefheart...change perfumes...
Sue? Are you kidding? You can't buy publicity like this. It would be like the Morton Salt girl or the Verizon guy suing.
Althouse is law school now. You, a law professor.
OT: I just participated in one of those phone survey things (a l-o-o-ong one, and detailed). One of the first questions was: "Have you accessed the internet at any time in the last 30 days?" LOL. /OT.
Ann, have you ever considered getting the photo copyrighted and turned into a coffee mug for Law Students?
It's truly iconic. You've become a National Treasure!!!
Next stop, SCOTUS!!! (Yes, Feddie at "Southern Appeal" will bitch up a storm, but screw him...).
Lunch boxes. Children's toys. Deodorants and soaps. And a complete line of sunglasses.
Dbp, I'm glad someone remembered him!
A. Whitney Brown used pre-Whit Stillmanesque rambling monologues, which were steeped in seering Ivy League vocab. His monologues sound like an unctuous McGeorge Bundy making a point about Mikoyan. You prided yourself you got half of them.
No Youtube clips capture his old SNL persona, so I won't link to them.
But let's just say:
A. Whitney Brown over Dennis Miller
Anyday.
Cheers,
Victoria
Ok, so now I'm getting such things as (will spare the reproduction) promo mugs, studying IP law in China, law school gifts, getting into law school, superhero capes for children and something have to do with--hell, don't ask me!!--"Certified RN Coatings, Blank Sublimation Mugs and Tiles."
"Blank Sublimation Mugs"
Isn't that the facial expressions of the voters that they trucked in for Obama from the nursing homes in Gary this week?
Didn't that A Withney Brown dude do a real nasty you tube video saying he doesn't support the troops or something like that? I seem to remember something like that from a few months ago.
Janet over Chrissy.
Rhoda over Mary.
Betty over Wilma.
Trixie over Alice.
The Scarlet Witch over Sue Storm.
Rosie Palm over Sarah Jessica Parker.
Wow, I have no idea who half these ladies are (or vaguely know). I think Trixie and Alice are from the Honeymooners, which I've never seen.
How about this other Gen X version:
Daphne over Velma
Smurfette over Miss Piggy
Justine Bateman over Molly Ringwald
Blair over Dana Plato
Mr. T over Lou Ferrigno
Scott Baio over anyone but especially Ralph Macchio
Andrew McCarthy over James Spader
Remington Steele over Bruce Willis
Susanna Hoffs over Pat Benatar
Cheers,
Victoria
Didn't that A Withney Brown dude do a real nasty you tube video saying he doesn't support the troops or something like that?
I saw it when I was searching for a relevant clip to post here.
He actually called it "I Support The Troops", but couched it in John Kerry-like terms. You know the kind:
Halp Us John Carry - We R Stuck Hear N Ikak
Well I see your list like this:
Sean Connery over David Craig
Richard Burton over Peter O’Toole
Keith Richards over Mick Jagger
Peter Tosh over Bob Marley.
Albert Brooks over Marv Albert
Woody Allen over Woody Hayes
Barney Ruble over Fred Flintstone
Hoss Cartwright over Little Joe.
Ross Poldark over Ross Gellar.
Hoss Cartwright over Little Joe.
GASP.
Hey big and stupid and cuddly and loyal over skinny pretty boy. But it doesn't really matter because you would only last one episode before a rock fell on you or you got eaten by a bear or something. The only thing more dangerous was beaming down to the planets surface with Bones and Spock and the Kirk. You were certain to be turned into a pillar of salt while Kirk was boning some green chick.
I thought A. Whitney Brown was dead.
Well, even if alive, he's still not funny.
He was a tedious, snarky, lefty who made Bill Maher seem like Bob Hope.
Hoss Cartwright over Little Joe.
GASP.
Well, Victoria, I sorta felt that way about, for example, Andrew McCarthy over James Spader.
Yeah have you seen Justine Bateman lately. I'm all for looking like your real age but she got more lines on her face than Lindsey Lohan's bathroom countertop. She needs a freakin' sandwich stat to fill in her shrunken mug. Damn she got fugly.
Well, Victoria, I sorta felt that way about, for example, Andrew McCarthy over James Spader.
Idiosyncratic, I agree. But as if the A. Whitney Brown thing didn't tip you off, I have this thing for men with wispy hair.
Plus Spader would've treated you like crap at the prom. Pass.
Oh!
Magnus Magnusson over Bamber Gascoigne
Cheers,
Victoria
Back to Ann. WHY do you think they put up that decades old photo of her without her permission?
I suspect someone Googled Images for a "law school student studying".
Not sure if she's asked them to take it down, but it's actually a compliment I think.
Cheers,
Victoria
Bruno Sammartino over Hulk Hogan.
The Fabulous Moolah over Ms. Elizabeth.
Joan Blondell over Joan Collins.
Cindy Lauper over Madonna.
David Bowie over Bowie Kuhn.
And who has wispier hair than Hoss Cartwright. He only had two. Plus two teeth. Jeeez.
Nice Rack-
And who has wispier hair than Hoss Cartwright. He only had two. Plus two teeth. Jeeez.
I leave the field to Hoss entirely to you then.
And now, if you'll excuse me, I'm outties to the cinema. Night Althousians.
"Bruno Sammartino over Hulk Hogan"
The Golden Terror over Bruno Sammartino
If I was in law school and saw you walking by I would of probably put the moves on you big time.
I still might today...if you are lucky.
OK, fellow republicans it is almost showtime.
I love running out of my condo building and running by and perhaps brushing by tourists and yelling taxi.
It is so empowering.
"The Golden Terror over Bruno Sammartino"
Isn't "The Golden Terror" your nickname on Blogging Heads after you opened that can of whipass on the dirty hippie chick.
"Back to Ann. WHY do you think they put up that decades old photo of her without her permission?"
It's not "they," it's David Lat. He and I are on very good terms. It's an inside joke to post my picture like that. I totally get it, think it's funny, and feel flattered.
"If I was in law school and saw you walking by I would of probably put the moves on you big time."
Thanks, but in fact, that NEVER happens.
You were hot then and you are hot now.
I think you are too hot for a man.
A man wouldn't be able to tame or cope with your fierce independence and brillant mind.
I bet you intimate men.
Man intimidater.
I think most of these men who post on here secretly desire you.
I bet you intimate men. [as is]
O the richness therein! The richness therein! Is Trooper still out and about?
I think you know that most of the men who comment on here secretly desire you and you find it empowering.
Similar to how I feel when I run out of my fabulous loft, cellphone to ear, ensemble amazing, and bump into tourists from the south and yell taxi.
I guess I assumed everyone here, with just a few exceptions, knew that Lat and Althouse were buds.
I had to let that one pass. It's too easy. Plus Titus is sensitive. Plus he’s interesting because now he is rubbing the nub of the crux if you know what I mean. And I am curious.
You are a big old performer too.
And a bit of a drama queen.
No wonder you and Andrew Sullivan link to each other frequently.
OK-I am done analyzing you.
I got to get out and see what I am worth.
I am curious.
Yellow, or Blue?
Has the intimadition topic been discussed before?
I must of missed it.
Just by view of things.
You x-rated movie queen you.
And you a Soccer Mom.
OK, one more compliment.
You are "noticeable" and that is a really rare quality.
I would love to see you walk.
I bet when you are working the runway around Soho or Chelsea you make heads turn.
OK I am done flattering you.
Want to do it?
Oh, reader, I love those questions.
"How long did you spend on the Internet last week?"
"Well, let's see, 168 hours in a week, subtract 56 hours for sleeping..."
OK< I am off.
Everyone have a great night.
Hugs.
"If I was in law school and saw you walking by I would of probably put the moves on you big time."
Thanks, but in fact, that NEVER happens.
That is an intriguing comment.
I think most of these men who post on here secretly desire you.
Secretly? Most are pretty up front about it.
titusgetme the ax!!!! said...
"I bet you intimate men."
How do you "intimate" a man?
"I think most of these men who post on here secretly desire you."
What Blake said. On one level or another, that's probably true. It's most true of all for the critics - the anti-althousiana who hide subconscious lust behind exaggerated disdain.
I actually had the pleasure of having Althouse as a prof in law school -- though I was a terrible and infrequent attender, the 8 a.m. time slot having a lot to do with it. She was certainly easier on the eyes than any of the other law profs. And her lectures were very good -- lucid, cogent, and chock full of information. She gave us our money's worth. If your mind was focused on learning a lot about Conflict of Laws, you certainly could. On the other hand, if you were overly susceptible to mild amazement at the spectacle of an attractive older woman exuding uber-intelligence, you might have a tougher time of it.
John Kidwell was probably the best, though. Hard telling how many nefarious liberal contract doctrines he successfully instilled in us unwittingly with his drily humorous, entertaining style.
Yeah, I can't blame her or even the UW for any of my crazy radical ideas. The North Dakota Supreme Court and the IRS get all the credit for that.
And of course, the National Cancer Institute, the epidemiology department at UW, and former WI Gov. Tommy Thompson. Can't forget them.
Well, since I've never taught a class that started at 8 am and I've never taught Conflict of Laws...
Way to ruin a good story about Althouse, Althouse.
Yeah, a back story that is kind of self-indulgent of me to mention in this context, since it makes no sense to anyone else without going into it. Suffice to say, I have personal reasons for being disgusted with certain failures of certain segments of the government, which makes the IRS' robberies even more galling, when I reflect that we're all being forced to pay for things that are utterly contemptible. So nowadays, instead of being bitter about what I perceive as "failures" of the government, I've come to believe that we should ask not what our government can do for us -- and that we should insist more and more on only paying for what we've asked for.
Okay, maybe I've got my facts wrong. I certainly wasn't trying to make things up. This was back in 1999. 9 a.m. would have been too early for me too. Like I said, I wasn't in the class very often. I guess it must have been Federal Jurisdiction. I think I was torn that semester between taking Fed. Jur. and Conflict of Laws. Maybe that's where I got confused. If it was Fed. Jur. I took, I admit that's pretty damn sad that I thought I'd taken a Conflict of Laws class that I never in fact took in my law school career.
Geez, Ann, I try to be all complimentary and stuff and you prove me a liar. I think you know who am, don't ya? Published Fall 1998 issue of Wisconsin Law Review? John K.? Law review article notorious enough to be distributed to every member of U.S. House of Reps by Congressman Dave Weldon, M.D.? I've been hanging around here for a while.
It's not "they," it's David Lat. He and I are on very good terms. It's an inside joke to post my picture like that. I totally get it, think it's funny, and feel flattered.
What! What a setup. You knew the answer to your "How is this" question all along.
I'm not playing with you anymore, Ann.
Cheers,
Victoria
Ann,
Obviously I was one of those students in the second of the two categories I mentioned above -- the ones who were "overly susceptible to mild amazement at the spectacle," and who therefore had trouble concentrating on Conflict of Laws or Federal Jurisdiction or whatever it was :)
What's even more embarrassing is I think I might have alluded before on this very blog to my supposed 8 a.m. "Conflict of Laws" class with Althouse and I think I might have been corrected before by Althouse in the exact same way. What kind of numb-skulls are you accepting to that law school, anyway?
While I'm eating crow in these multiple postings, let me just clarify that I thought John Kidwell was a great prof and a very good guy, liberal or not. I actually don't recall whether he was all that liberal or not. I just remember he was a great prof. It's dangerous and potentially misleading to alternate too suddenly between attempts at wry but affectionate humor regarding people you may disagree with politically and genuine straightforward bitterness towards the actual carrying out of bad political ideas by government agents.
John, a word in your shell-like, if you'll permit.
This is the internet. People lie. But the more you explain, the worse it looks.
So, chillax. I'm sure you are who you are, and it's for others to prove you different. :)
Cheers,
Victoria
Ann Althouse said...
"If I was in law school and saw you walking by I would of probably put the moves on you big time."
Thanks, but in fact, that NEVER happens.
As you know you tend to attract gay males. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
If you're lucky maybe this summer an attractive, intelligent, caring man will approach you.
And if there's a God he'll be wearing the shortest, tightest shorts you've ever seen.
OK I am back. The night was absoolutely crazy-I won't go into it.
If the gay males notice you then you can definitely know the straight males notice you.
Gay males are the first to highlight society. Straight mles follow our insuctions.
Overall, you are hot and obviously fabulous and if you don't know it I am here to tell you-you are.
Fabulous hair, clothes, body, intellect, style, taste.
You are a diva.
Madonna, Crawford, Davis, Garland, Cher, Carey, Parton....you are in good company/
Gay males are the first to highlight society. Straight mles follow our insuctions.
wait ... titus is gay?!
I knew someone would beat me to using the word "rack".
John K... I figured you may have meant 8:50, which I have done, but how can you mix up Conflict of Laws and Federal Jurisdiction? I mean, I believe you that I did, but it was just pretty weird that you got the 2 facts wrong.
Victoria: "What! What a setup. You knew the answer to your "How is this" question all along. I'm not playing with you anymore, Ann."
I think if you look back, you will see that this is true of many, many post. For a law professor, this is a classic form of expression.
I wouldn't call myself gay.
I am more bi-curious.
What's it like?
Ann said: "John K... I figured you may have meant 8:50, which I have done, but how can you mix up Conflict of Laws and Federal Jurisdiction? I mean, I believe you that I did, but it was just pretty weird that you got the 2 facts wrong."
Apparently, never having taken Conflict of Laws, I don't have a clear idea of what the class might have been about, making it easier to mix it up with whatever:) But I distinctly remember taking the exam for your class and sweating profusely over the fact that I hardly ever went to class. That was a missed opportunity on my part, since I remember the few times I went to class as being very worthwhile. Fortunately, I was relieved when I scored a reasonable grade, though far from stellar.
insuctions.
Yep. He's gay.
"Remember back in the day when you were idealistic about the law school experience, touring campuses, and trying to decide where to go to become a top-notch attorney?"
Um, no I don't. I was working as a patent agent in my company's law department, when the general counsel came by one day and said, "We like you. We like your work. But you're the only non-attorney professional in the department and if you want to stay here, you'll have to go to law school."
I didn't even want to go. You can imagine how much fun I never had. Although it was kinda cool talking back to the occasional gasbag professor knowing I probably made more money than he did. That and the ignorant twit in corporations class asking the professor, "What's a mortgage bond?" and thinking, "I'm getting an A in this class. Bwahahahah!"
I think if you look back, you will see that this is true of many, many post. For a law professor, this is a classic form of expression.
You! A law professor!
Actually, now that I think about, that's how I teach, too.
Me! Not a law professor!
I think if you look back, you will see that this is true of many, many post. For a law professor, this is a classic form of expression.
Well, it's hard to find out you're another lab rat in a Socratic Method Blog.
My mind isn't stimulated that way. I feel hurt actually.
I need a hug.
Cheers,
Victoria
It's really quite obvious:
you're a (cod)ex symbol. ;)
I want credit for my photo! If it's going to be iconic and all.
(Love the window boxes, too. You could have been an art history professor on the side.)
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