From an article in The Cut that has an unfortunate title: "What Are Fathers Telling Their Sons About Cornell?"
Are fathers supposed to talk about gang rape to little boys?! The photograph shows a man with 2 boys who look like they might be 3 and 4 years old. I'm seeing mockery on line.
But the article is making a good point that I think everyone basically agrees with: Parents should teach their children, from the earliest age, to respect others and not to be selfish monsters. The exact forms of monstrous behavior are not detailed. You don't tell the story of the Cornell orgy/rape. You read "Where the Wild Things Are" — things like that — and talk about what's going on there.
I prefer high-quality children's literature, but there are some really on-the-nose books that some people might choose: "C is for Consent," "Don’t Touch My Hair!," "Hands Off, Harry!" The list goes on and on:


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All helpfully framed in a feminist-based, we-must-all-be-peaceful-and-cooperative theme, guaranteed to help you emasculate your young male starting as early as possible. You go, Liam. You go, girl.
'The Cut', huh? Death Cult.
"So many children have come to me and said, "What shall I tell my parents about sex?"" - Is Sex Necessary chapter VI, Thurber
On a big campus, the Greek system can be valuable. It can be a fun and social thing. It was for me. I was in Delta Upsilon at Creighton. It got closed when a guy got drunk, fell off the back porch and died.
The Greek system is way bigger at UNL and, of course, the SEC schools.
I don't think Creighton has any frats any more. They've all been run off for stupid things.
Don't know exactly what happened at Cornell, but it could have happened in the dorms.
I blame 'Animal House'
[start virtual italics]All helpfully framed in a feminist-based, we-must-all-be-peaceful-and-cooperative theme, guaranteed to help you emasculate your young male starting as early as possible. You go, Liam. You go, girl.[end virtual italics]
Oh, c'mon now. Surely you recognize a middle ground, right?
Fraternities are the least of our problems at colleges and universities in this country.
Dave Begley said...
".... Don't know exactly what happened at Cornell, but it could have happened in the dorms."
In my experience, I heard of that or similar behavior by the HS Football team or college band initiations.
Teach your daughter not to snort ketamine, whether on a penis or not.
That headline really is lousy. The article itself has some quite thoughtful discussion.
Men- you are all rapists until we say so.
10 drinks later, wander into a group of horny young men.
yes - as a woman - you are free to snort as much ketamine as you want. If you tease the men - you can decide years later that was a mistake.
It's still not clear to me why I should care about this Cornell story.
Perhaps we need drunken /drugged out prick-tease laws. ?
The most popular fraternity on my campus was Felta Beta Thigh.
I teach my kids that they don't want to be at the party where a fight breaks out even if they aren't involved and similarly if there is a sexual assault at a party they do not even want to be anywhere in the house to make themselves a potential witness.
I try to teach them situational awareness and knowing when to get lost if things get too drunken and stupid.
Not excusing bad male behavior.
At college age - the hormones are fever pitch at equal levels for both sexes. Yeah - be nice if proper parenting could guide a behavior pattern that would sit on your shoulder and whisper - *it might be cool, but don't engage. Resist the temptations. Concentrate on the big picture. These are not the women you want to doodle*
About 60 years ago I had a friend who, unlike me, enjoyed the Cub Scouts. He joined the Boy Scouts and on their first camping outing (or whatever it was called) was subjected to serious hazing, so degredating that, as he described them to me, would have constituted criminal acts against him. And this was all with the knowledge and approval of the adults in charge.
The point is that hazing can happen anywhere. I've never liked it; it's unnecessary and creepy at best.
> Surely you recognize a middle ground, right?
Indeed. That's why we know this isn't it.
Mothers need to tell their daughters not to get drunk, use drugs and go to a guys room at 2 am.
Just spitballin' here, but you know, taking your children to church and reading them Bible stories at bedtime might just be a good idea. Kind of like, "train up a child in the way he should go and when he is old, he will not depart from it." Come to think of it, reading the Narnia series, LOTR and Pilgrim's Progress wouldn't hurt either.
I was VP, then President of my Frat immediately after Animal House came out, and toga parties, yes, partying like it's 1979, yes, but we respected the coeds who came to our parties, and if our advances were rejected, we moved on. Some of the fondest memories of my life. Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
Fraternities are a mechanism that makes smart men stupid.
DU prohibited hazing. It was founded on no hazing. That's why I joined. Also, the highest house GPA on campus.
I guess I don't understand why we'd let guys morally off the hook for a more-than-one on one situation, quite aside from issues of rape etc. We can criticize women for putting themselves in danger and failing to embrace their own agency, and I do (I'm definitely with Paglia on this one, always have been). However, we can at the same time firmly call out men seeking out "trains" and whatnot. It's gross, it's immoral, and it can so easily tip into criminality.
Yes, the girl was drunk and on drugs. But so were they! Goose, gander, folks. They were all stupid, and gross, and immoral, and some might have been criminal. We'll have to see. There's plenty of condemnation to go around.
Would you want your daughter to end up with a guy who, at some point in his life, participated in this behavior, criminal or not? I sure as hell wouldn't have, if I had a daughter. And I sure as hell wouldn't have wanted my son, now 26-1/2, to have done any such thing, ever, for any reason, whatsoever. I would have expected the same wisdom in behavior of a daughter, too.
I don't understand why this should be framed as a Men Versus Women issue. It's just horrible, stupid behavior all the way around, criminal or not. Why can't we just say this? And repeatedly, so that young people have a better sense of hard, firm, bright lines, period.
Also, had my son been in that situation, even if he didn't participate, but neither moved to stop it or called for a responsible adult, I would absolutely have condemned it. Full stop. That would be wrong. Period. If he didn't know that, I would take that responsibility on me, a glaring failed parent in that particular area.
He sees something criminal or potentially criminal going on? I expect him to call authorities, if it's a situation he can't have impact on by stepping in himself. Period. I would expect that of a daughter, too.
“Until” peachy? I think you mean “when”.
“It's just horrible, stupid behavior all the way around, criminal or not. Why can't we just say this?”
The men are facing criminal charges. Huge legal fees already, I’m sure. Calling their behavior reprehensible, yes. Charging them, even threatening them with legal action - no.
Social liberal club.
#NoJudgment #NoLabels #AllsFairInLustAndAbortion
Vive la revolution!
Maybe, baby. Baby, maybe, not.
Can they abort the fetus, cannibalize her profitable parts, sequester her carbon pollutants, and have their baby, too? A wicked solution.
Progressives are playing with a double-edged scalpel.
Excellent article by Kurt Schlichter.
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2026/10/05/the-lessons-and-the-lies-of-the-gross-cornell-scandal-n2684081
Whatever the truth, and even if the boys are acquitted, the boys involved should not have taken part in degrading the girl, whether or not she was willing. They degraded themselves, as well as the girl
Dave B. I was a DU at Ohio University. Similar experience that I de-pledged a different fraternity and joined DU due to no hazing policy. Not a majority but significant percentage of members were engineering and hard science majors. The hazing aspects are not limited to college/universities as we have a local high school girls soccer team being accused of hazing.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/what-we-know-about-olentangy-orange-girls-soccer-hazing-allegations/ar-AA2dn6pr
I understand what you are saying, but this is also a good recipe to create sons who end up 30 year old virgins. Everything goes too far and reactions often become overreactions. Teaching boys to never touch a girl's hair? You don't use blunt instruments when you are talking about fine lines.
Toxic masculinism and feral feminism are first-order forcings of catastrophic anthropogenic climate change, a confluence of Diversity: class-disordered ideologies and privilege. Abort.
Planned Parenthood could host Planned Fuckhood and abort two "burdens" with one scalpel and vacuum.
"Are fathers supposed to talk about gang rape to little boys?" Not to little boys. But to a little older boys, maybe. "Look, son, don't get drunk, don't do drugs, only have sex in the context of a mutually respectful, committed relationship. Watch out for any situation where a woman's regret can come back to harm you. Don't count on the law or fair procedures: universities will come after you, and Dem AGs will prejudge your case. Never underestimate the left: if it serves their symbolic politics, they will happily persecute you, by any means necessary."
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