Said Independent MSP Ash Regan, quoted in "'I would love to be doing this in my 60s' - the debate over selling sex in Scotland" (BBC).
The quote in the headline is from someone called Porcelain Victoria, who "says she started selling sex when she was 18 and used it as a way to escape an abusive household": "I plan to do this until I can't, basically. I would love to be doing this in my 60s. My plan is to hopefully semi-retire and become a counsellor helping couples and solo people figure out their sexuality when it comes to kinks and fetishes."
I had to look up "punter." I looked it up in OED — not, say, in Urban Dictionary — because it was printed in the BBC. It means a whole lot of things, but in this context, it's the client of a prostitute.
The term "Nordic model" is explained in the article. It's the approach, used in Sweden, of making it a crime to pay for sex (and decriminalizing taking money for sex). Other countries following this approach: Norway, Iceland, Canada, Northern Ireland, Ireland, France, Israel, and Spain.
I think BBC is missing the point by forefronting Porcelain Victoria's positive outlook on a life of prostitution. The Nordic model seems designed to limit (or even end) prostitution. The prostitute is freed of the threat of criminal prosecution, and the client must not only fear prosecution but must fear that the prostitute will report him to the police. Or is the idea to promote mutually satisfying transactions?
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“ Porcelain Victoria, who works in the Fife area, says sex work has given her an income that allows her to give her child the best life she can.”
Got to pay those high utility bills caused by Net Zero!
I think some of this was covered in It's a Wonderful Life.
Althouse, the damn software zapped my first comment.
Saint Croix: I read that comment and it was excellent! Please try and reconstruct it. It was that good.
I think the offending words might have been "whore" or "street-walking slut" or, I don't know, "rape" and "infanticide."
I'll try to be more G-rated next time, AI overlord. Blogger, you are a menace to criminal analysis.
thanks Dave
The 'punter' on any NFL team carries a different sort of air about them when playing an NFL game in Europe.
If you were a regular reader,
you could have easily figured
out from context clues that a punter
is what Americans call a "john".
Your brain is getting so intellectually lazy from being read to, and having to continually consult grok and the OED to do your thinking for you.
What will you do when you get yourself into a spot (that's another word for "tight situation") and you are forced to think for yourself? Use it or lose it, proffy. Please stop relying on meade and your artificial helpers to think for you. You're a human animal, and will always need to think to survive in this increasingly predatory world...
Hth. Honestly. Just try to read a bit more, think independently and use your noggin -- think of it as daily exercise? -- as you age? All it will take is one deadly mistake, and you'll wish you had relied more on instinct, intuition and honed thinking skills...
It ought to lower the price of prostitution when the legal risk is moved to the john.
(Thanks for not getting off track, at least,
and educating us? on all the definitions of punter
and when it was first used in print, etc. You like trivia,
nttawwt, but it usually distracts you from your main point.
Again, hth. You don't want to come off looking like a dizzy chick outside the home, right? meade clearly encourage it to bring you down to his un(der)educated level, but it makes you look bad -- like you never belonged in the front of a classroom to begin with... Hth)
You know most of the people who turn to sex work to make needed cash, right ann? "Children" or young adults just out of childhood... They are tempted, naive, and cannot look ahead with the experience folks like you are supposed to have. Back when we had a more masculine-led society, there was an idea that children (and women too! nttawwt) needed to be protected from dirty, deadly old men. After Gaza, of course, all bets are off. The weaker they are, the faster they fall... Hey, I don't make the rules. And rules are being thrown out the window because elders like you are busy being childish, and don't think you have any responsibilities to your society. Sad really... At least meade isn't on here bragging about his "good deeds" for his community, ie/cleaning out clogged drains (just do it!) or taking pictures of dogs at the dogparks, whether people want their privacy invaded or not.
Don't stand in line for any civic awards, you two. Now go play?
Think of it like counterfeit money, or hot merchandise (no pun): The person who takes in stolen goods, or found to have marked bills, is the one who faces the greatest punishment. The creator (actual counterfeiter) of the marked bills is not considered as culpable. If you walk out of the Bank with marked money, the Bank is not liable, you are. The Pawn Broker who sold you a stolen TV, won't be prosecuted, nor will the Thief (stolen auto parts) face as severe penalty. It's the Receiver that always gets prosecuted. I never understood why it doesn't work the same way with Prostitution. Why don't the Johns face the same sentence ?
The Republicans had Jesse Helms ("Senator No") and Nancy Reagan ("Just say no.")
We're not afraid to be negative!
The Democrats have a tendency to try to be nice. "Say yes to everything!"
"Our 13-year-old is having sex, dear."
"Is she using birth control?"
"Yes. And sodomy."
"No problems then. As long as we don't have another mouth to feed."
We are living in the end times.
Blogger removed my first comment and now my second comment. Was it mad at "harlot"?
I have read of the word "punter" in many, many contexts. Usually as a pejorative.
Jesse just say no to commies (both here and abroad) consuming hard drugs is a hard lesson from the copybook we had to relearn
When scotland goes sharia
It might be a problem if you want to legalize an activity, and then people can't speak about it.
What do you think, AI?
"My daughter is a sex worker and nobody better call her anything else or I will be furious."
Was it the analysis comparing it to Roe v. Wade? Unintended consequences? A dramatic rise in what is now legal?
Who's against prostitution? First assumption is wives. It diminishes the power of withholding sex. Then fathers whose daughters see money in it. Maybe displaced by online porn production now.
When they said a woman could become anything, this was already something she could become.
I first ran across the term as used by a Yorkshireman (ex RAF helicopter mechanic) in Singapore, being a pub manager at the time, in reference to his customers. It wasnt a pejorative.
Loury and McWhorter on preventing people from saying what they think, in reference to Nick Fuentes but applying to Althouse forbidding the n-word. Loury translates what is said as saying that we're tired of your jim crow shit, clean up your act and stop shooting people at christmas tree lightings. (after minute log 20)
Also used as a reference to gamblers, or stock market investors, by my Irish uncle (working for Jardines in Hong Kong at the time).
Raping and pillaging was the Nordic model for quite a while.
Both the ex-RAF Yorkshireman and my Irish uncle died of cirrhosis in Manila. To no-ones surprise.
punt(n.1)
in football, "a kick of the ball as it is dropped from the hands and before it strikes the ground," 1845; from punt (v.).
- etymonline.com
Friendship with "benefits" and taxable capital returns. A probable "burden", a liability, an unplanned shared responsibility is why reproductive rites are imperative to the progress of social liberal club under Obamacares. Also for the viability of pedo as the third leg and why transgender is trendy.
Ann is titillating her punters A punter is a mark, fool, someone in over his head. The opposite of a player.
Porcelain Victoria is a perfectly cromulent name for a hooker. Or a punk band…
Punter doesn't necessarily have a negative connotation in Ireland.
As a former punter of the American football type, I am shocked at the levels of negativity and punterphobia being exposed in this post.
A power balance was struck with planned parenthood that performs Capitol punishment as legalized abortion of the "burden" of evidence and the punter's shared responsibility and financial liability. You've come along way, baby (pun intended).
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