October 10, 2025

"But one of the things that's so problematic about Colorado's law is that it undermines the well-being of kids that are struggling with gender dysphoria."

"And so Colorado accepts that up to 90 percent of kids who struggle with that before puberty will work their way through it and realign their identity with their sex. But this law says that if any of those children go to a licensed professional and say: I would like help realigning my identity with my sex, that licensed professional has to decline to help them.... Moreover, if they're continuing down the path of transition, then, unfortunately, they get locked into that path, and, eventually, it leads, over 90 percent of the time, once they start down the path of social transition, it will lead to the route of medicalized transition, which the Cass report tells us comes with a lot of harm and devastation...."

From the oral argument in Chiles v. Salazar.

Note that 90% is used in 2 different contexts in that argument. 

34 comments:

hombre said...

But, but, say the Three Sisty Uglers, “90 per cent” of the multilaters, activists and teachers promoting the mutilation are Democrat surrogates. That should be dispositive of this case.

narciso said...

a solution in search of a problem

n.n said...

Most will affirm their sex and gender. A minority will transition as homosexual. A minority will be targeted for conversion. A minority will entertain abortive ideation of selfie or others.

Jamie said...

I like the double use of 90%. It makes the point that the current "standard of care," affirming the young person's current inchoate feelings about sex, gender, and identity, results in almost all patients' being medicalized for life, even though almost all of those patients would come through the present moment without medical intervention if the standard of care were watchful waiting.

Peachy said...

Listen to Erin Lee talk about this issue.
Our public Schools are being turned into child-sexual abuse and gender confusion centers.
Children in CO and elsewhere, are becoming suicidal based on what the corrupt child-abusing left are doing to them.

narciso said...

it is the Hymnal of the Old Ones,

RideSpaceMountain said...

The transification-ratchet is not an accident. It moves in one direction for a reason.

It is not organic.
It has power behind it.
It has purpose...
And it has malice.

FormerLawClerk said...

The people? of Colorado voted for this. Let them cut each other's peckers off. We do not want these people's gene's polluting our pool.

"When your enemy is busy castrating himself, stand aside and quietly allow him to finish the job." - Sun Tzu, on the Art of War

n.n said...

Planned Peckerhood (PP) has wicked precedents.

Also, a front hole... stop digging.

Big Mike said...

Note that 90% is used in 2 different contexts in that argument.

And in both it looks remarkably like number pulled out of thin air.

Jamie said...

it is the Hymnal of the Old Ones,

And the refrain is always "Do what thou wilt."

Peachy said...

Conservatives have allowed childless /child abusing nut jobs to take over school boards.

here - watch this Pourdre valley school board meeting. it's insane.

Peachy said...

I beg all of you to watch this - to understand what the child-less/ child abusers on the left are doing to our children, behind closed doors - in our public schools.
Please Watch.

RideSpaceMountain said...

FLC said, "'When your enemy is busy castrating himself, stand aside and quietly allow him to finish the job.' - Sun Tzu, on the Art of War"

“Keep your enemy off balance. Misgender them at every opportunity.” – Master Sun, The Art of War

tcrosse said...

It seems that there is a cohort who are delighted if their child has gender dysphoria. It's very much in fashion this season, particularly if there's a surgical remedy. One would hope that it goes out of style before too many children are injured.

MikeD said...

The only children "struggling" with gender dysphoria are one who've been brainwashed (groomed) by parent and/or the "education" establishment.

Achilles said...

The people pushing the creation of eunuchs should all be drug out in the street and publicly executed.

It is really hard to come up with anything more evil than convincing a child to turn themselves into a eunuch.

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RideSpaceMountain said...

@trcrosse, "Transproxy Syndrome by Motherchausen"

It's in the RSM-5-TR (Ride's Statistical Manual - 5th Edition - Tranzmadness Revision)

Josephbleau said...

These courty things are so much fun, it’s interesting to find out how much freedom I will have when they tell me next year.

Achilles said...

FormerLawClerk said...

The people? of Colorado voted for this. Let them cut each other's peckers off. We do not want these people's gene's polluting our pool.

"When your enemy is busy castrating himself, stand aside and quietly allow him to finish the job." - Sun Tzu, on the Art of War


One of the worst parts of Islam is the female genital mutilation that is rampant in the most barbaric tribes.

Adults in tribes that practice this act should all be killed.

This goes for parents and communities that practice eunuchification of children. If you are involved in turning your kids into sterile eunuchs for life you are committing one of the most barbaric acts of evil possible. Even if you rape you children they can recover from that. They can't recover from "transitioning."

Yancey Ward said...

"It is really hard to come up with anything more evil than convincing a child to turn themselves into a eunuch."

This.

n.n said...
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n.n said...

the Hymnal of the Old Ones

Back to the future. Progress of the liberal kind.

Throw another baby on the barbie, she's done. Wicked.

n.n said...

Affirmation therapy in lieu of conversion corruption improves viability by 90%.

Rocco said...

FormerLawClerk said...
The people? of Colorado voted for this. Let them cut each other's peckers off. We do not want these people's gene's polluting our pool.

Genes are hardware. This is not a hardware problem; it is a software problem.

Jamie said...

It seems that there is a cohort who are delighted if their child has gender dysphoria. It's very much in fashion this season

I came upon - or think I did - this phenomenon very early - before Trump 45. Progressive friends' young teenage daughter "came out" as trans - coincidentally (?) within a couple of months of three of her classmates in a class of like 18. The parents reaction -

I mean, it's hard to say for certain. They're progressives but they're also good people (of course those things are not mutually exclusive). But I remind myself that at that time, I knew next to nothing about the "Irreversible Damage" phenomenon, yet I remember, upon hearing the mom say solemnly, "The child we have is not the child we thought we had," thinking, she almost sounds... what, a little bit proud? Of what? Of her daughter, or of her own reaction? And if of her daughter, of, what, her courage in coming out, or of how special she is now? It was subtle. And the parents had had time to develop their public faces about what had happened in their family. So maybe I was entirely wrong. But I've thought about that conversation a lot over the years.

Leland said...

FormerLawClerk said...
The people? of Colorado voted for this.


For a person that yaps like he understands Gell-Mann Amnesia; you seemed to have forgotten Colorado is the State whose "Secretary of" tried to ban Trump from a Primary ballot because of an indictment alone. Either that, or you believe despite that, there is no corruption in Colorado's elections and the people there had free and fair elections.

narciso said...

they put Tina Peters in prison, for trying to obtain the true ballots,

Larry J said...

My wife and I arrived in Colorado in the last days of 1985 and lived there for 27 years. I arrived from the south and crossed the Raton Pass on I-25. We passed the town of Trinidad, CO, which was the Sex Change Capital of the state, if not the country. A doctor had operated a sex change clinic there for years. I've heard he's long since retired or died, but I think the clinic is still there. Sex changes are an old thing in Colorado.

From what I recall reading, that clinic used a long process that included psychiatric evaluations and gradual transitions before the hormones and surgery began, and they didn't do it on children. If correct, it sounds like they were doing things in a sound and responsible manner.

n.n said...

Sex is an immutable state established at conception. Gender (e.g. sexual orientation) is, apparently, susceptible to environmental corruption and climate change. Transsocial choices (e.g. dress) is a product celebrated in social clubs and queer parades.

n.n said...

Adults can choose to indulge surgical, medical, or psycho-atric corruption of selfie at their expense and liability.

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mikee said...

So 90% was used twice in two different contexts therein. It reads as follows: 90 out of 100 kids with gender dysphoria grow out of it, essentially. For the other 10 out of that 100, if they get medicalized transition treatment as a minor, 9 out of those 10 get even more messed up lives and only 1 sees any improvement in their psyche. Seems pretty clear that medicalized transitions of minors don't work well.

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