"... from the league’s silencing of quarterback Colin Kaepernick’s public stand against racist policing to coach Brian Flores’s recent lawsuit against the league for its allegedly discriminatory hiring practices. Not so tacit: Dre’s foregrounding of rap music as a truth-to-power speaking mechanism and a rebuke of the American police violence that continues to disproportionately end so many Black lives across this broken country of ours."
Writes Chris Richards in "Dr. Dre delivered the Super Bowl halftime show rap music deserves/Today’s most popular idiom of American music was long overdue for this kind of celebration" (WaPo).
Tacit friction....
"Righteous music" creates "tacit friction" — "all kinds of tacit friction" — friction against "accusations of racism." What point is being made (if any)? The fact that rap artists performed at the Super Bowl somehow counters all the various arguments that there is racism within the business of football?
If that's Richards's point I'm not impressed. Of course, the business of football likes to put the most famous and popular artists out there on its big Super Bowl half-time stage. They want credit for that, presumably, but I wouldn't give any. Do they get demerits? Eh. Why? So what can you say? You can say it creates all kinds of tacit friction. In which case, why say anything?
Speaking of not saying anything, I couldn't hear the words. Rarely can you understand the words from the performers at Super Bowl half-time, but it's a special problem with rap, which depends so heavily on its words. But I know the material performed is very famous, so much of the audience knows the words and heard it just fine.
And anyway, as I was just saying yesterday, here, "My personal policy is to skip every song as soon as the 'n-word' comes up." And by "comes up," I mean, I hear it. I never did.
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Lots of ass-shaking, head-shaking lyrics and tough guy posing.
Meh…
Wapo isn’t allowing comments on the article either. ( wonder why) But the sewer must be flushed occasionally.
They refer the the contrast between hip-hop and the often bland, bleached, and forgettable content of prior shows.
Case in point: the Coldplay and Bruno Mars show at Super Bowl 50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9cUytejf1k
To me this has little to do with race, friction, censorship, or disrespect. It has everything to do with pushing inoffensive beige content to a mass audience. "The show wasn't the best, but I didn't turn to another channel." This strategy was the norm when everyone was forced to watch one of three TV networks, but became outdated as entertainment options fragmented. Back in the 1990s several channels produced "alternate half time shows" to lure people away from boring beige.
Sloppy thinking, self-serving interpretations, and lazy overgeneralizations abound.
Yes, the words.You'd think that as obsessive hip hop producers like Dre are about their *mix* that the voice would be front and center in the sound.
Very frustrating because the meter and internal rhyme and alliteration are often quite good.
I hate everything about the NFL. I especially hate the Super Bowl with its insipid commercials.
I understand there were lots of crypto ads. I’m calling a crypto top.
I hate the NFL’s wokeness. I hate the way the NFL wraps itself in the flag. I hate those stupid Clydesdale horses.
I hate the fact that the NFL donated millions to the criminals who run BLM.
I hate the fact that many NFL players are criminals; wife beaters and drug users.
I hate the jock sniffing by the media. I hate the pointless statistics and constant babbling.
“coach Brian Flores’s recent lawsuit against the league for its allegedly discriminatory hiring practices.” I previously commented on this case. This asshole made millions as a head coach but was fired after he was under .500. Then he went on CNN and said he was doing this for his kids. The fuck! He’s doing it for the money! Stop lying!
And the white wimps who are NFL owners will pay him off. All the more reason to hate the NFL.
The Denver Broncos are for sale and the price is supposedly $4b. This is about $1b less than the cost to build SoFi stadium. I hope the buyer losses his ass.
The NFL is a big part of the bread and circuses that The Man uses to distract the plebes. Fuck’em. Fuck all of them.
The fella on the radio said something about everyone hitting their mute buttons hard enough to break them- I didn’t watch. I just don’t care anymore. The sportsmanship and what athleticism meant to me once is in the shadow of ego.
My mom said they just touched their groins a lot-
"most popular idiom"?
In Fact, isn't the "most popular idiom" in america, what most people are listening to?
Weren't we Just Talking, Last Week; about what music america is listening to?
And was it Rap? or was it Moldy Oldies ?
I was hoping to find darkness or something in the Latin mass to find a classical oratorio with the n-word in it, but it seems not to come up.
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So in other words, I didn't miss out on the rare opportunity to miss both the NFL and Rap Music at the same time? Sweet.
Is there a quota on how many white players vs black players vs Asian players?? If not, WHY?? (I know already which is exactly why the BEST person should be picked for
ANY job, and not picked for their skin color!!!)
I figured I would be cancelled for appropriation if I watched...
Yes, it was a shame that you could not hear the words. My impression of the show is that rap music and artists age faster than rock music and musicians. I hadn't thought about this before the show, but rap music seems to rely more on themes that are kind of ridiculous when the performers are older. Violence and serial sex are themes best left to the young, I guess.
I seriously wondered, Did they have “Applaud” signs on the big-screen during this performance? And “Light up your phones now” signs? It seemed that way to me. Fake, IOW.
Rap began in the streets but it lost its soul in the studio. All music that arises from the human situation eventually gets studio-ized. And fake.
My extended family sings when we gather. We play guitars and harmonize. That’s my favorite music.
IF they really wanted to use music as a truth-to-power speaking mechanism and a rebuke of the police violence that continues disproportionately ...
Wouldn't they have had CW McCall play Convoy?
Didn't see the superbowl.
Heard people in LA were getting shot.
Good for Matthew Stafford.
David Begley, you said a mouthful. And I enjoyed it.
Writes Chris Richards ...
Nothing he wrote there is true or factually correct; "tacit fiction" might be a fun name for it.
That was the phatest, dopest shizzle... no, wait... that was some tired stuff... not my cup of tea. Mary J. Blige looked like a pair of mud flaps would've been appropriate.
Kept waiting for "Bitch Better Have My Money", which would’ve at least put some humor on display in the thick of all dat misogyny and idiocy.
Fist bump David begley.
I mourn the days we would call out such an extravagant display of base, lower order “entertainment” as “nasty.”
"My extended family sings when we gather. We play guitars and harmonize."
I am imagining you sounding like "Songs Our Daddy Taught Us" by the Everly Brothers.
I see Martha Stewart's favorite woman beating pimp was there. I guess because he got away with it, that's speaking truth to power.
"I never did."
The NFL is stupid, but not that stupid.
It amazes me that large corporations spend millions targeting 13% of the population that has no money and ignoring the 87% which does.
I'm happy to say I did not partake in watching any of it.
OK - I did see the silly modern-house stage set on the field as snoop rapped - for all of 3 seconds before I flipped the station back to PBS. Sunday night at my ho' is Master Piece Theater.
I detest rap and have no idea why people like it. some rap artists are likable. Eminem is not likeable. He's a dick.
There was nothing hard about the halftime show and I loved it. It was completely inoffensive; we couldn't let our kids stay in the room for JLo and Shakira.
It was pure nostalgia. The Millennials are entering Boomer territory.
"a rebuke of the American police violence that continues to disproportionately end so many Black lives across this broken country of ours."
But no rebuke of the far greater slaughter of black by blacks? Some black lives matter less?
"the various arguments that there is racism within the business of football?"
True, teams don't look like America.
I enjoyed the music, didn't listen to the words, I guess, since I can't remember anything they said.
"I was hoping to find darkness or something in the Latin mass to find a classical oratorio with the n-word in it, but it seems not to come up."
Google "Black Mass."
Ann, I have close caption on my TV so I could see what they were “singing”. I watched Dr. Dre and Snoop Dog for about five minutes. Then I turned it off. Not my thing.
Since Rodgers and Brady ween’t playing, I wasn’t interested.
I didn't hear any of it. When halftime started, I muted the television and read a book. I way past the point of being lectured drug- and violence-excusing "artists" about my supposed shortcomings.
I just heard from CNBC's Jim Cramer that an advertiser can't use the phrase the "Super Bowl" unless they pay the NFL. That's why you are now hearing "the Big Game."
What a bunch of greedy motherfuckers.
Cramer, per usual, loved the halftime show. It totally sucked. Rap isn't music. It is barbarians beating on drums and howling.
And, of course, we were treated with a softball interview with our so-called President. Biden's senility was on display for all the world to see. It just turns my stomach to see that guy who has been bribed by foreign countries and no one ever calls him out about it.
Hunter lives in LA. I'm sure he was in a suite paid for by the Chinese. He was probably doing coke and whores in the bathroom; left the wife at home.
Yeah, we can mark the end of America's number one status with the 2022 Super Bowl.
For those who want to see what was happening without having to hear them, OzzyMan's got you covered.
https://youtu.be/LRGvtqhqJCQ
Loved the white supremacist set. A nod to the post-war suburban house, writ large.
The Super Bowl seemed a lot like the Oscars: non-stop celebrity worship in the ads, the half-time show, and during the game.
""... from the league’s silencing of quarterback Colin Kaepernick’s public stand against racist policing""
I would have stopped reading the article after this rather obvious lie. Why continue, when the basis of the article is a false premise?
@Ann “ I am imagining you sounding like "Songs Our Daddy Taught Us" by the Everly Brothers.”
Never heard that one before. Very nice, typical Everly Bros harmony.
We sing a mix from our boomer youth to hymns and a few other types sprinkled in. At my nephew’s wedding in which he married into a Bill Gates-made billionaire’s family, we po’ folk sang at the hotel (which the billionaire did NOT pay a cent for) the night before the wedding for about an hour. When my bro-in-law threw out “The Weight” we hit musical bliss though no one knew more than two verses of the lyrics. Then we sang “Nearer My God to Thee” which we all knew (about 25 singing). A good, fine memory.
The marriage, btw, worked. They now have three kids and a fourth on the way.
Bring back the Red Hot Chili Peppers!
Let's talk about 'truth to power', injustice, and standing up (or kneeling down) in protest of slavery.
I saw images of LeBron at the SuperBowl and saw a number of tweets from LeBron and others about how this was the greatest half-time ever. Whatever. I long ago left the room at half time of the SuperBowl, run by people who don't much care about football for people who rarely, if ever, watch football. Fine. I didn't watch it when they decided the 70 year old version of The Who was the way to go and I didn't watch it last night when they brought out Hip-Hop legends (which means nothing to me) along with Mary J. Blige, who from my knowledge is someone who just seems to get asked to do SuperBowl appearances. I've never heard of her or heard her music from any other source. But that's another story for another time.
Here's some actual truth to power action. The Boston Celtics of the NBA traded Ennes Kanter (Freedom) to the Houston Rockets last week. The Rockets promptly released him. This man's career has been effectively canceled. The reason: Kanter-Freedom is a Muslim and has been rightly calling out the NBA's knee bending to the Chinese Communist Party and it's leaders. He has been relentless in his calling out of the CCP. He has also called out a Mr. LeBron (never met a dollar he didn't love) James. You can get your bottom dollar that Lebron had a hand in getting Kanter-Freedom released from the league. He was a solid player, only 29 years old. And his crime? SPEAKING TRUTH TO POWER. Actual truth against an actual evil.
Lebron is a coward. The writers who today are gloating about the Hip-Hop legends parading around at a multi-million dollar party last night, calling that a standing up for justice, are incredibly small, ignorant people. The giant among them is Ennes Kanter Freedom. You won't find too much talk about this- actually- no talk about it at all on ESPN which is owned by Disney, which is too busy licking the bottom of Xi's feet at the moment.
But the Chinese love it. Chinese Media Gloat about PRC Influence on the NBA. I am beyond done with anything or anyone having anything to do with the NBA. If Dr. Dre, that moron Eminem, Mary J. Blige or any of the others had any balls or brains, they'd get that they have it great, and that real slavery is ongoing, and they are paying to keep it going.
Monday morning rant.
I don't think I've ever watched a Super Bowl halftime show. Nor a pregame National Anthem. Why would I?
No, not even when halftime featured Up With People or the Tyler Junior College Apache Belles.
I don't watch a single minute of the pregame crap or a single second of any of the commercials. I figure out when kickoff is and put it on then. Then I watch the game intermittently while looking at my laptop.
So Althouse is now never going to hear the Nword, after never speaking it. Take that all you white SJW's - oneupmanship at its finest.
As for Superbore halftime, does any watch anymore? Trashy,vulgar,antiracist. A Perfect souffle for the american libtard.
I look at the commercials and realize that white people are only a very small minority of the population in America. And I look at the football teams and my realization is confirmed.
There are zero white cornerbacks in the NFL. Why? Racism, obviously. And there is only one black head coach. Why? Racism, obviously. I agree, racism suffuses the NFL. It's why I stopped watching.
Kapernick is a media creation, and they keep talking him as though he's an important figure. No no cares except the Leftwing Sports writers and editors. I dunno about anyone else, but the second I hear his name, I mentally change the channel.
Playing the National Anthem = racist and divides the country
Playing a Rap sound about racism = bringing us together.
I suggest in 2023, a song or skit about the Holocaust should be performed. Or maybe an poem about the wonders of immigration.
Seriously, the cultural landscape had become so fractured that what performer or song could "bring us together". Back in the 20th century, you could toss out Michael Jackson, or one the other Jacksons, or Bruce Springsteen, or whoever, and most people would enjoy/tolerate it. Today, how many people know or care about the singers?
Also, how many people actually sit there and watch this stuff closely. My impression is that most people just have the Superbowl on, and socialize or do other things, and never pay attention unless they're actually playing. Which is about 45 minutes out of 5 hours.
I had no interest in over the hill rappers (would have had no interest in under the hill rappers either). So instead I went to youtube and learned about the endothelium and nitric oxide. Highly recommend.
Who would I have watched? Miley Cyrus is only one that comes to mind.
I skipped the half-time show because I don’t like rap music. My wife watched it and said it was the best half-time show ever. Chacun a son gout.
cRap music is the only word in the English language that I know where the leading c is both silent and often misprinted by having it left off. It's also the only music that's called a song that basically has no signing. It would be great to have Mel Tillis, were he still alive, doing cRap "songs". Would they sound better with his stutter or would we be unable to tell the difference?
"And there is only one black head coach."
Two. Mike Tomlin, Steelers. Lovie Smith, Texans.
The fuckers that run the NFL have to go full woke. How much carbon does the Super Bowl consume?
Unless carbon credits are purchased by the NFL and people in attendance, then the game should be cancelled. Or played in an empty stadium. The future of the planet is at stake!
What Temujin said. Bravo!
"Dave Begley said...
Rap isn't music. It is barbarians beating on drums and howling."
Wow.
Are you looking for an excuse to not listen to music you personally dislike, using a common vernacular inherent in that style of music as a trigger?
If someone is speaking or if you see the word on the page, does the same principle apply?
I caught the drool over the celebrities in attendance ceremony- J Lo and Ben, Charize Theron...and the rest. No masks? I thought that meant it was over but I see the grade school kids in CA still have to wear em today...
With one exception, all of the NFL teams are owned by White people. The one exception is a Pakastani.
This needs to be fixed. Diversity is our strength. Seventy percent of NFL teams must be owned by Blacks. NOW!
If the current owners have to sell at a loss, tough shit. In fact, I think the government should force this action. Do the right thing!
"Is there a quota on how many white players vs black players vs Asian players??"
I don't believe in quotas but there is a solution to this, specifically for the lack of Asians.
The NFL could have a new rule whereby 1 player from each team is allowed special privileges PROVIDED they solve a difficult math problem prior to each game.
The possibilities for the special privileges are endless.
I didn't see it. I did watch the game as I like Joe Burrows and wanted him to win. I turn off the sound for all commercials and walked the dog at half time. Good use of my time.
My God, everyone complains that the show was terrible and that they never watch anyway but had to mute none the less.
The show was fun. There was representation of people of color of all body sizes. It wasn't as good as Glenn Miller's half-time show in the 1946 Superbowl, or the time Ozzy Osboune had sex with a goat back in '83, but it was better than that time Justin Timberlake removed Michael Jackson's nose, exposing his naked skull.
And people just complain about how they couldn't understand the words they didn't hear because they hit the mute.
"It amazes me that large corporations spend millions targeting 13% of the population that has no money and ignoring the 87% which does."
Actually. Yes, actually. Marketing research shows blacks will buy more when there's black people in the commercial. And that whites/Hispanics don't really care who's in the commercial. Futher, white women get a warm fuzzy feeling with they're shown in commericals with black people or People of color.
And while white men watch football, they don't watch the commericals. Mostly.
a rebuke of the American police violence that continues to disproportionately end so many Black lives across this broken country of ours."
Just for the record, this is a lie. If you account for crime participation rates, it is actually White men who are shot disproportionally by police.
I only watch the game (less than intently) because our best friends invited us over. I very halfheartedly listened to the half-time show.
Pretty good considering I'm not a big fan of rap. And certainly LOTS less offensive than it could have been.
But have we no comment on Dr. Dre? You know one of the founders of NWA, you know N-wordz Wit Attitudes?
If they had made that historic reference would the Professor have turned the channel?
"And people just complain about how they couldn't understand the words they didn't hear because they hit the mute."
No. You couldn't hear it because the music was louder than their voices, and with all the lip syncing and premade music, it was actually funny when Dr Dre wasn't playing the piano, but it was playing anyways. It was a joke. America is sick and tired of getting called RACISTS by multi millionaires that THEY made.
Slightly off topic, but the morning after the Super Bowl I cannot recall a single commercial from last night. This is, I think, the first time in a long time when I saw no Super Bowl commercials that were memorable. Am I alone in this?
Big Mike said...
Slightly off topic, but the morning after the Super Bowl I cannot recall a single commercial from last night. This is, I think, the first time in a long time when I saw no Super Bowl commercials that were memorable. Am I alone in this?
They weren't all that memorable to begin with. The only one that stuck out to me was the one that was based on the opening sequence of The Sopranos, but that's only because I'm a huge fan of the show.
Mostly what I took away was that there seemed to be a lot of electric vehicle commercials this year. How that's all supposed to work with the Left trying to shut down all the coal burning plants, and not building nuke plants to replace them, is beyond me. I guess they either think they'll buy electricity from China or have no problem turning the country back to c. 1910 when only the very rich could afford automobiles.
"I detest rap and have no idea why people like it."
This just tells us rap doesn't appeal to you; it's not a critique. Rap is, first of all, very rhythmic, fundamental to all music, it can be melodic, and it tells stories. It's basically a folk music. There's no reason people would not like it, even if it is not to your taste. Familiarity with and understanding of any art form will generally lead to greater appreciation of it, and will allow one to discern those examples of it that are "good" or "bad," (or better or worse).
"Eminem is not likeable. He's a dick."
Yes, he certainly seems so. But then, so are many artists from all areas of endeavor and genre (writers, actors, musicians, painters, etc.). It has always been so. Unless we have to live with or deal with them on a personal or professional capacity, none of that matters as regards their art, which falls or stands on its own. I'm not an active consumer of rap music, but much of it that I've heard, including from Eminem, is very enjoyable.
"today's most popular idiom of American music". Yeah, sales are booming.
The E-Trade babies were cute. One of the better Super Bowls in memory (not a blowout for once) and the worst halftime show ever (of the 10 or 20 seconds I watched). I used the time to take out the trash and check my favorite blogs.
"And there is only one black head coach."
"Two. Mike Tomlin, Steelers. Lovie Smith, Texans."
Good, I'm glad Lovie got another chance. And Tomlin is my favorite coach. I wish Aaron Rodgers would finish his career with the Steelers. Still wouldn't watch them, but they would make a good combination.
"My personal policy is to skip every song as soon as the 'n-word' comes up."
Hear no evil ...
"Just for the record, this is a lie. If you account for crime participation rates, it is actually White men who are shot disproportionatally by police."
I don't know if this is true or not. What stats support this claim? This study, which I found in a few seconds of googling, finds the contrary to be so.
None of the songs performed last night had to do with racism. No one talked about racism.
If you don't like rap, that's fine, but a lot of you are seeing malice and division where there was none.
Sure, Eminem kneeled down; it wasn't a big deal. The media is trying to make it a big deal. Don't take the bait.
Commercials: There was an ad for the NFL which featured a couple target race kids and a bunch of cartoon caricatures of famous NFL players. It was good, certainly made us laugh. Having grandma deliver the punch line to save the kids was a poor ending. No surprise to make it interesting, very predictable.
Halftime was interesting, it's clear that the value prop in the production is now who can come up with a set instead of a stage. It was interesting to see how they tried to maintain visual interest without massive lighting effects (the sun was still up) and no pyrotechnics. The Weeknd last year was much better than this year's lineup, and his set and staging were much more creative.
A few minutes in, after Dre and Dogg were doing their things, it was funny how the camera fixed on and really quickly moved away from the fat cheerleaders and almost immediately went to the paid whores twerking around the third rappper/artist/person. I guess body positivity still doesn't sell as well as shapely women shaking their butts.
Two-eyed Jack
I enjoyed your post, but Glen Miller died during WWII,1944.
Regarding rap, the first show occurrence of it was in "The Music Man," a very WHITE musical. And writer Meredith Willson did it twice: both the opening scene on the train -- "Rock Island" -- and the in-town scene later when the Music Man starts his plot on the simple Iowans: "Trouble, right here in River City."
I guess black culture appropriated it from whites, eh?
Weren't we Just Talking, Last Week; about what music america is listening to?
And was it Rap? or was it Moldy Oldies ?
It was Dr. Dre (age 57), Snoop (age 51), eminem (age 50), Mary L. Blige (age 50), etc. - it was moldy oldies!
was in "The Music Man," a very WHITE musical.
Pffft, Gilbert and Sullivan did it first.
And Debbie Harry of Blondie had the first Rap hit to top the charts in the US, with her song Rapture in 1981.
Just read on Facebook that Dr. Dre donated the funds to restore the original Muscle Shoals Sound Studio (3614 Jackson Highway). Having spent some quality time in that facility back in the day, it’s much appreciated.
MacMacConnell: "Glen Miller died during WWII,1944."
That's what they want you to believe. It was actually Jimmy Stewart who died in that crash. I saw that in the documentary "The Glenn Miller Story."
In January, Snoop Dogg released an anti-police rap single, “Police,” with rapper J5 Slap and two other hip-hop artists that features incendiary lyrics, including the following intro (delivered not by Snoop Dogg, but by one of his collaborators):
“All you n***** out there
Take your guns that you using to shoot each other
And start shooting these b**** a** motherf******* police
That’ll impress a motherf******* n**** like me, the crooked motherf******
‘Cause these police getting way too motherf****** outta line.”
The NFL thinks for some reason that promoting individuals who produce material shooting the President and promoting murdering the police is good for the youth of America
"Just for the record, this is a lie. If you account for crime participation rates, it is actually White men who are shot disproportionatally by police."
I don't know if this is true or not. What stats support this claim? This study, which I found in a few seconds of googling, finds the contrary to be so.
I'm sure this study is like all the rest. If you go by raw numbers, everyone acknowledges that more White men are shot by police every year than Black men. But, these studies then insist, Black people only make up 13% of the population, yet 24% of the men shot by police are Black, almost double what it should be.
What these studies ignore is the crime participation rate. Young Black men account for around 5% of the population, yet commit about 50% of violent crime. This suggests that the percentages should actually be closer to 50/50.
And Debbie Harry of Blondie had the first Rap hit to top the charts in the US, with her song Rapture in 1981.
Rapper's Delight, January 1980.
Temujin,
Too right. Didn't take long, either. Kanter made his position known, and the NBA, though they made a feeble attempt to hide it, quickly made theirs known too. Sleazy people.
Snoop must have a bad rash or something, he’s always grabbing his crank.
As someone who has never understood hip-hop--talking over music just doesn't make sense to me--I found the half-time show to be unexpectedly entertaining. Some acts and genres are made for the spectacle of the show. Madonna, whatever you think of her music, does a flashy stage show and came across well on her half time show, as did Bruno Mars, and even Katy Perry. Traditional rockers--Petty, Springsteen, the Stones--just don't use enough flash and choreography to grab eyes in the same way, and they stiffed. Hip-hop is about bigger than life characters, movement, and the big statement. Snoop Dogg is easily likable, Dre is an elder statesman, Mary J Blige let her outfit and dancers carry things, and Kendrick Lamar used his rhyming against the music's rhythms in a way that even a doubter like me found compelling. 50 cent seemed dated to me, but seemed OK, I guess. Only Eminem was a drag. He seemed, as he always does to me, like a white kid trying to be black. Talk about cultural appropriation!
I do think the WaPo writer is just thinking way too hard about all of it. It was entertainment and spectacle, as it should be.
Someone insisting on making divisive political statements during work time (ie a game) is not a human right. do it on your own time.
I loved it. Best half time show ever. The music was great, the sets were beautiful, and the performers were full of joy.
"I'm sure this study is like all the rest. If you go by raw numbers, everyone acknowledges that more White men are shot by police every year than Black men. But, these studies then insist, Black people only make up 13% of the population, yet 24% of the men shot by police are Black, almost double what it should be.
"What these studies ignore is the crime participation rate. Young Black men account for around 5% of the population, yet commit about 50% of violent crime. This suggests that the percentages should actually be closer to 50/50."
Where are the studies that support your thesis? And why do you assume all black men shot by police were shot while committing crimes? It is not only the incidence of such shootings but the circumstances of such shootings that have to be examined.
Do black men commit 50% of the violent crimes in the US each year? That may be so, or, it may be that, of the violent crimes in which arrests are made, 50% of the suspects arrested are black men. Arrest rates do not necessarily equate to participation rate. If there are a significant number of violent crimes each year for which there are no arrests, it's possible the statistics are skewed, as there may be many white violent offenders who are not arrested. Also, of those arrested and convicted, what percentage are innocent? It's certain some percentage of them are, given the pressure placed on all suspects to plead guilty in order to avoid longer sentences if they lose at trial. If they do not have the means to hire good legal representation, they face an almost certainty of being convicted at trial.
I thought it was a great halftime show. Part of the appeal was the shadenfraude knowing you people were going to hate it. The NFL really piled on the progressive diversity angle highlighting girl and deaf football players. I had a good laugh everytime they bent over backwards to be corporate woke.
Wendybar, isn't asking the NFL to remove Snoop from this (because of something a collaborator in one song said) kind of like asking Spotify to remove Rogan for what his guests have said?
I have to say the outrage from the boomers is something else today.
OK, boomer lol
@Cook, at 10:38.
An excellent comment, IMO.
Robert Cook said...
Where are the studies that support your thesis?
Please provide us with the best crime statistics you can find that support your belief about black crime rates.
And why do you assume all black men shot by police were shot while committing crimes?
Do you love beating up straw men, or are you just really stupid?
1: The police can only shoot people they encounter. So crime rate is a good stand in metric for "encounters with cops"
2: Other than Breanna Taylor, every single police shooting / killing that BLM has objected to involved a black criminal who was resisting arrest for an actual crime for which arrest was legally correct (and other than the case of the guy selling cigarettes, every single one of the arrests was righteous)
But please, do tell us about the "black men" promoted by BLM who were NOT shot while committing a crime. Note that "resisting arrest" is a crime.
It is not only the incidence of such shootings but the circumstances of such shootings that have to be examined.
Yep. And the vet majority of those shootings are ones where the black criminal brought the shooting on himself.
The cops are arresting you and you don't want to go? Tough. If we're going to have the rule of law, then violently resisting arrest is not something you get to chose to do.
Do black men commit 50% of the violent crimes in the US each year? That may be so, or, it may be that, of the violent crimes in which arrests are made, 50% of the suspects arrested are black men. Arrest rates do not necessarily equate to participation rate. If there are a significant number of violent crimes each year for which there are no arrests, it's possible the statistics are skewed, as there may be many white violent offenders who are not arrested.
The vast majority of the victims of black criminals are black people. So, are you claiming that the police care more abotu black people than about white people, and so work harder for black victims?
So now Robert Cook says, at best, that we cannot know whether blacks are disproportionally shot by police? Baby steps...
In January, Snoop Dogg released an anti-police rap single, “Police,” with rapper J5 Slap and two other hip-hop artists that features incendiary lyrics, including the following intro (delivered not by Snoop Dogg, but by one of his collaborators):
“All you n***** out there
Take your guns that you using to shoot each other
And start shooting these b**** a** motherf******* police
At least Snoop acknowledges the serious horror of black-on-black violence.
MacMacConnell: "Glen Miller died during WWII,1944."
That's what they want you to believe. It was actually Jimmy Stewart who died in that crash. I saw that in the documentary "The Glenn Miller Story."
If you play "Chattanooga Choo Choo" backwards, it says "I buried Glen."
I didn't watch the halftime show. Now, if they had done a cover of the Super Bowl Shuffle, I would have watched that, 100%.
Gahrie said...
And Debbie Harry of Blondie had the first Rap hit to top the charts in the US, with her song Rapture in 1981.
Rapper's Delight, January 1980.
2/14/22, 11:24 AM
Rappers Delight only hit #4. Rapture was the first to hit #1 in America.
"It amazes me that large corporations spend millions targeting 13% of the population that has no money and ignoring the 87% which does."
White suburban women just LOVE commercials with black people, interracial couples, body-positive fatties, gays, trannies and tough women lording it over stupid males. And guys who wear baby snuggies and push baby carriages.
It makes white suburban women feel so virtuous to enjoy all the diversity while putting down the patriarchy. And women spend 65% of all disposable income. So there you have it.
It appears I missed nothing by having other things to do yesterday.
Again.
@Comrade Marvin:
Do you read the newspapers? Are you in a coma?
How many White kids are mobbing drug stores and emptying shelves?
Who is busting all of those car windows in San Francisco?
Do you think there are pick up trucks full of good ol' boys roaming inner city neighborhoods doing drive-bys?
Methinks this is a case of willful ignorance.
Every white NFL head coach who gets fired should be guaranteed as many head coaching jobs as Lovie Smith (3 and counting), and Romeo Crennell (3 and counting).
I mistakenly watched about 90 seconds of the game; I was mostly done with the NFL before they went political. Happy for Stafford though, he got kind of a raw deal being stuck in Detroit.
Headline you will never read: NBC Pulls Dr. Dre And Snoop Dogg From Halftime Show After Finding Recordings Of Them Using The N-Word
“Rappers Delight only hit #4. Rapture was the first to hit #1 in America.”
Number Four wit’ a bullet, yo!
White suburban women just LOVE commercials with black people, interracial couples, body-positive fatties, gays, trannies and tough women lording it over stupid males. And guys who wear baby snuggies and push baby carriages.
At least, advertising agencies have convinced their corporate clients that this is the case - most of the ads felt like ads for the ad agencies rather than ads for the product/service being sold.
Robert Cook is the self-appointed person on this blog to defend all criminals and progressive crap that is ruining this country. He refuses to acknowledge that crime in the progressive run cities is at an all time high. The people who suffer the most are the poor minorities. So, stop defending the criminals and start thinking about the population that is affected.
Living room liberals/progs are the worst BS artists who sit and pontificate about nothing they have ever had to endure. In their life it is all about “studies” and theoretical nonsense. If you don’t believe what is being reported in the news, then get up off your ass and take a walk around the Bronx, Harlem and parts of Brooklyn and Queens. But be sure to wear a bullet proof vest and have a cell phone ready to call 911. The first time you get mugged, you’ll change your sanctimonious tune.
Criminals are not your friends!
"The police can only shoot people they encounter. So crime rate is a good stand in metric for 'encounters with cops'"
"Encounters with cops" can encompass all sorts of circumstances where the victim of police violence is not caught in a criminal act, including being asleep on a couch under a blanket when the cops come crashing unannounced into the home.
It's incredibly racist that there aren't more white rap artists.
Prove me wrong.
Robert Cook said...
Me: "The police can only shoot people they encounter. So crime rate is a good stand in metric for 'encounters with cops'"
"Encounters with cops" can encompass all sorts of circumstances where the victim of police violence is not caught in a criminal act, including being asleep on a couch under a blanket when the cops come crashing unannounced into the home.
Yep. Anything can happen one-off
But the vast majority of interactions with cops come either because you're suspected of engaging in crime, or you were the victim of a criminal act.
Now, let's repeat #2 from the same comment, which you didn't respond to:
2: Other than Breanna Taylor, every single police shooting / killing that BLM has objected to involved a black criminal who was resisting arrest for an actual crime for which arrest was legally correct (and other than the case of the guy selling cigarettes, every single one of the arrests was righteous)
But please, do tell us about the "black men" promoted by BLM who were NOT shot while committing a crime. Note that "resisting arrest" is a crime.
To this, Cookie has no response, because I'm right, and he's full of shit
"This just tells us rap doesn't appeal to you; it's not a critique."
I'm not a fan of rap either, but I have long accepted the fact that not every human being on the planet shares my tastes. It's a heavy cross to bear to be sure, but trying to force the rest of humanity to just like the things I like seems like too much work. Your welcome.
"But the sewer must be flushed occasionally. "
Let's leave Trump and his toilet and the classified documents out of this.
The patter song goes back to the 18th century, and the tempo is faster than most rap songs, but I do look forward to a hip-hop Pinafore or Pirates.
Here's the thing about music and art and enertainment. There's always somebody with bad taste who likes it. No matter how awful IT is. If only 1% of people likes something, that's 3.3 million Americans.
That's why you always get "Why don't you old fogies like new Song/music/movie/fillinblank?" comments. I'm sure 20% of the USA likes Rap. But I'd bet 80% don't. But we rap crap at the Superbowl.
A bunch of gorillas chasing a ball around the screen.
The national pastime.
Mutaman said...
"But the sewer must be flushed occasionally. "
Let's leave Trump and his toilet and the classified documents out of this.
Oh no, do tell.
And the we'll discuss Sec of State Hilary's illegal email server, and how she used it while in Russia.
And about Team Hilary spying on the Trump campaign and Trump Admin with the assistance of the FBI.
And then we could talk about the Biden crime family, "10% for the big guy", and the recently released State Department documents that show that the US government was really happy with the anti-corruption efforts of the prosecutor that then VP Biden got fired as a payoff to Burma, the company that was bribing his son.
So, Mutboy, do you really want to go there?
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