February 12, 2014

"Republican wins San Diego mayor special election. And in spite of a flood of public-union money in favor of the Democrat."

"Obama Turnout Machine Crashes in San Diego — Loses Mayor’s Race by 9 Points."
The polls were skin-tight leading into yesterday’s election, and unions poured in millions to keep control in the nation’s eighth-largest city. . . . Democrats were stunned at the margin.
IN THE COMMENTS: mccullough said:
What justifies the "in spite" in the article? Pension and medical benefits of public employees are a hot issue. The more a Dem candidate looks like a union stooge, the worse it is for that candidate.
I think what we are seeing — and what we saw here in Wisconsin in 2011 — is a new visibility to the dysfunctional cycling of money between the public employee unions and the Democratic Party.

85 comments:

Curious George said...

Must not be any women in San Diego.

Levi Starks said...

That story ignores the obvious. It tries to explain how a Republican could be Elected in what was believed to be a Democratic favored election.
But among the possibilities listed there is no consideration that the voters may have simply liked the Republican candidate better. Maybe they voted independent of party.

madAsHell said...

The polls were tight, but they lost the election by 9 points. I'm sure that tells us something, but I'm not quite sure what.

Unknown said...

A little taste of what is coming this November.

Bob Boyd said...

"Must not be any women in San Diego."

If there weren't any women in San Diego, Filner would still be mayor.

MadisonMan said...

If there weren't any women in San Diego, Filner would still be mayor.

Excellent!

I just wonder where the Unions get all this money they threw down the toilet here. How was this good stewardship of funds?

Sam L. said...

Off topic, but regarding stand-up desks, a cartoon: http://xkcd.com/

gk1 said...

I know it had to be very difficult for the media to continually identify Filner as a gasp... (D). Probably why they only do that for republicans in the spot light.

RecChief said...

maybe we should rename San Diego to "little wisconsin".

Yes, you are correct Mr Starks

mccullough said...

What justifies the "in spite" in the article? Pension and medical benefits of public employees are a hot issue. The more a Dem candidate looks like a union stooge, the worse it is for that candidate.

cubanbob said...

Well as Tip O'Neil once said all politics are local. No doubt that between out of control public sector unions and the party of Filthy Filner and the public sector unions the voters have no clue where their interests lie. The public sector unions in San Diego need to elect a new electorate.

lemondog said...

Mebbe he should start endorsing Republicans......heheheh.

Republicans Take San Diego’s Mayor Race Despite Obama Endorsement

Obama offers to stay away from some Senate races

n.n said...

In the age of gratification preceding integrity, not everyone can be bought. Hopefully, this new guy is capable of self-moderating, responsible behavior and good governance.

garage mahal said...

Is Faulconer a Republican?

Brando said...

I was surprised to learn that Filner was the first Democratic mayor for San Diego in decades--I didn't realize it was such a Republican city. Considering that and Filner's ties to the Dem candidate, it's not a very surprising win.

That said, it was pretty stupid for the Democrats to nominate someone tied so close to Filner, with such progressive politics and an Obama endorsement. That would have worked in most big cities, but not San Diego.

Marty Keller said...

But Inka just said Republicans' War on Wymmin is leading them to the electoral darkness! Wha' happened?

Bob Ellison said...

"If there weren't any women in San Diego, Filner would still be mayor."

But in that case, wouldn't Filner have sought more fertile ground? Maybe San Francisco?

chrisnavin.com said...

I see how you've been looking at me and wearing those low-cut dresses, San Diego.

How would you like to come along on the Palm Springs junket?

Bob Boyd said...

"But in that case, wouldn't Filner have sought more fertile ground? Maybe San Francisco?"

I'm not an expert on the whole groping women thing, but it might be risky in SF. You might find yourself holding onto a tree trunk.

Carol said...

the union stupidly lost a lot of money to a hedge fund that went belly up...dopes...

SGT Ted said...

the dysfunctional cycling of money between the public employee unions and the Democratic Party.

Normally referred to as "money laundering" when other organized crime fronts do it.

garage mahal said...

s a new visibility to the dysfunctional cycling of money between the public employee unions and the Democratic Party.

The apparent motive to chill liberal political speech in San Diego is itself chilling — whether that's the real motive or not.

SGT Ted said...

Well, with the very real "War on Women" that was waged by the CA Democrat Party for several years, demanding that sexually harassed women shut up to keep Filthy Filner in office, I am not suprised the GOP won handily in Sand Diego.

I find the California Democrats "war on women" within their own party to protect a sexual predatory man from accountability far more objectifying and dangerous to women's rights than any 3rd trimester abortion legislation in Texas.

Christopher B said...

Unexpectedly.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

damikesc said...

I find the California Democrats "war on women" within their own party to protect a sexual predatory man from accountability far more objectifying and dangerous to women's rights than any 3rd trimester abortion legislation in Texas

Progressives seem to think rape or blatant harassment are peachy as long as a politician agrees with them.

SGT Ted said...

garage is taking a break from complaining about the GOP money raised by Walker in the other thread to come here and defend out of state Union fat cat money spent to elect Democrats.

Lefty incoherence personified.

SGT Ted said...

Not letting Public Employee Unions purchase an election = "chilling free speech" to the left.

And, no one was actually preventing the Unions from spending the money; the Unions lost the election. They got to speak and the people said, "No".

Using the IRS to actually chill free speech is ignored.

SGT Ted said...

If a GOPer illegally used the IRS to go after a Democrat, I wouldn't be in the GOP.

People like Inga and garage remain in the Democrat Party, which shows they are OK with using the Government to suppress speech they don't like.

Brando said...

"If a GOPer illegally used the IRS to go after a Democrat, I wouldn't be in the GOP."

I wouldn't go that far--my political preferences in general won't change simply because someone who shares them is an odious person. But I certainly wouldn't support that particular person, as such people should be shunned and drummed out of office, and to promote them simply makes my own side look craven and pathetic. Likewise, I wouldn't expect Bill Clinton's antics to turn Democrats into Republicans or feminists to change their beliefs, but I'd at least hope they'd shuffle that awful family out the door and make room for some new blood.

Lyssa said...

The polls were skin-tight leading into . . .

Am I the only one who finds this metaphor incredibly weird? Who says that?

garage mahal said...

garage is taking a break from complaining about the GOP money raised by Walker in the other thread to come here and defend out of state Union fat cat money spent to elect Democrats.

I didn't complain. Somebody asked, so I linked to the numbers.

MadisonMan said...

The apparent motive to chill liberal political speech in San Diego is itself chilling — whether that's the real motive or not.

Why is pointing out the link between public employee unions and Democrats linked to chilling liberal political speech?

Can liberal political speech only be funded by union monies derived at root from taxpayers (who are paying the salaries of, say, teachers or administrators?) Can't liberal political speech stand on its own merits?

Ignorance is Bliss said...

Lyssa said...

Am I the only one who finds this metaphor incredibly weird?

I was just about to comment on that. Yes, it is weird.

Ann Althouse said...

"Am I the only one who finds this metaphor incredibly weird?"

I thought about it, and it is striking, but I think it's good, since we say polls are "tight" and if you want to intensify that you might say "really tight" and that's what "skin tight" means.

Revenant said...

This isn't an unusual result for San Diego. The Democratic mayoral candidate is always flush with union money, and usually loses. San Diego isn't a left-wing stronghold like LA or San Francisco.

It probably didn't help that their latest offering was Filner's #1 stooge on the city council.

garage mahal said...

This isn't an unusual result for San Diego. The Democratic mayoral candidate is always flush with union money, and usually loses. San Diego isn't a left-wing stronghold like LA or San Francisco.

You mean this race wasn't just like Wisconsin?

Peter said...

The dysfunctional cycling of money between the public employee unions and the Democratic Party.

Of course, it's not just money- there are the phone banks, and people going door-to-door.

One could argue that this is just ordinary electoral politics, and so it is- BUT the unions involvement in electoral politics is not just ordinary politics, it's a grab for the public purse.

I think a good argument can be made that unions- but esp. public-sector ones- should not be able to use members' money, or any union property, in electoral politics. Particularly in states where membership (or the equivalent, paying for agency) can be made a condition of employment.

If they want to participate in politics, let them raise the money from each individual member, using non-coercive means, and use that money to fund a political organization.

garage mahal said...

I think a good argument can be made that unions- but esp. public-sector ones- should not be able to use members' money, or any union property, in electoral politics

It's already against federal law to use union dues for political contributions.

broomhandle said...

"It's already against federal law to use union dues for political contributions."

What a relief! Thank God money isn't fungible or anything.

Big Mike said...

The peasants took one look at bejeweled dogs eating off bone china in the White House and decided it was past time to revolt. Viva la revolucion!!!

Sofa King said...

It's already "against" federal "law" to use union "dues" for "political" "contributions."

FTFY

alan markus said...

It's already against federal law to use union dues for political contributions.

Sounds like a good topic for a John Doe investigation - find out if any union political operatives actively involved in the Walker recall were on the union dues funded payroll at the time.

garage mahal said...

Sounds like a good topic for a John Doe investigation - find out if any union political operatives actively involved in the Walker recall were on the union dues funded payroll at the time.

One step at a time. After Walker, Club for Growth, and the 25 other groups are fully investigated we can come back to unions.

Are you all fired up to see the thousands of Kelly Rindfleisch documents that are being dumped next Weds? I bet you are!

garage mahal said...

And that seems like something Althouse would love to do, sift through thousands and thousands of personal emails and documents from the John Doe proceedings. An inside look at Walker's Deputy Chief of Staff. Fascinating!

eric said...

"It's already "against" federal "law" to use union "dues" for "political" "contributions.""

Yeah, back in 2001 I was the President of my local AFGE chapter down in San Diego.

There are lot's and lot's of ways around that law. It's one of the reason why I quit the Union completely. At the time I was told it was non partisan.

What a pile of crap that turned out to be.

Brennan said...

The David Alvarez biography is awfully impressive. For California politics, he looks and sounds like a young Barack Obama.

Yet he still lost.

FleetUSA said...

I like the "severely damaged brand"

FleetUSA said...

"skin tight" as in "uptight, outta sight". :--))

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

garage mahal said...
I think a good argument can be made that unions- but esp. public-sector ones- should not be able to use members' money, or any union property, in electoral politics

It's already against federal law to use union dues for political contributions.

This is simply a lie. With all the evidence, why do you assume Garage is being sincere in his comments?

Are there no lawyers in here? No union members? Anybody who can google?

Of course unions use dues for electoral politics. If you are public sector union then you can resign from the union if you don't want your dues to go to politics. If you are private sector union you can have your potical dues refunded. The rights of unions to spend dues for political activity were actually expanded by the hated United Citizens case.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

What if the polls were old? Would "skin tight" still be a good metaphor?

garage mahal said...

Are there no lawyers in here? No union members? Anybody who can google?

You're too stupid to google?

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

Nice admission I caught you lying.

garage mahal said...

Nice admission I caught you lying

No you didn't.

Doug said...

Rather than "skin-tight", I would go with the old but evocative "tighter than Dick's hat band".

Doug said...

Rather than "skin-tight", I would go with the old but evocative "tighter than Dick's hat band".

RecChief said...

Peter said...


Of course, it's not just money- there are the phone banks, and people going door-to-door.


Don't forget that it was Citizen's United that unchained the unions to perform these kinds of election services.

Eric Jablow said...

I'd like to see the next school system contract negotiations.

damikesc said...

Are you all fired up to see the thousands of Kelly Rindfleisch documents that are being dumped next Weds? I bet you are!

So many smoking guns that no charges were filed.

Sounds devastating.

Bob Ellison said...

garage mahal said "One step at a time. After Walker, Club for Growth, and the 25 other groups are fully investigated we can come back to unions."

So there's a pecking order. Peck the conservatives to death first, and then maybe we'll have some questions about leftists. Got it.

garage mahal said...

So many smoking guns that no charges were filed.

Kelly Rindfleisch is heading to jail. She plead guilty.

John said...
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John said...

Rindfleisch pleaded guilty in 2012 to one felony count of misconduct in office for doing campaign work at her government job. She was sentenced to six months in jail and three years of probation The world will be much safer while she's in the pen. If she had been part of the union, I'm sure she would have gotten better advice: admit nothing; blame the other guy; claim discrimination - you know, the usual defense.

damikesc said...

Kelly Rindfleisch is heading to jail. She plead guilty.

Ken Starr got more important convictions.

The John Doe thing is a joke.

But, don't worry...I will be quite outraged when it hits your side.

sinz52 said...

"Our tracking polls showed that Alvarez's union ties were devastating," said [Republican] Faulconer pollster John Nienstedt. "We morphed it into an anchor on him."

Mark said...

"Dysfunctional" isn't the right word. "Malignant" makes more sense. "Dysfunctional" implies that something doesn't work, and it's obvious that public sector unions have managed to buy themselves power using taxpayer monies in the past. However, the body politic is starting to notice the problem and respond appropriately to the cancer.

garage mahal said...

The John Doe thing is a joke.

I have no doubt that you aren't troubled by crimes ranging from campaign finance violations by a Walker supporter, embezzlement by Walker aides from charities, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, and misconduct in public office.

SteveR said...

Nice admission I caught you lying

No you didn't.


That's the thing with garage, if he believes its true, then its gonna be true. They'll be some link that proves it, and don't bother with facts. Or at some point he'll disappear from the thread because you just don't see the truth. But there's always links. Impeccable and unbiased sources of facts.

Michael K said...

"you aren't troubled by crimes ranging from campaign finance violations by a Walker supporter, embezzlement by Walker aides from charities, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, and misconduct in public office."

Prove it.

Chris Lopes said...

Hey GM wold you mind posting a link to the law that forbids union dues being used for political purposes? I ask because all the Googling I've done indicates the opposite.

9d04f1f0-9443-11e3-8145-000bcdca4d7a said...

San Diego is (politically) pretty much still a military town. Its politics still tend to skew fairly conservatively.

This result, coming in a low-turnout election, coming off a slimeball Democratic mayor, don't seem overly surprising

damikesc said...

I have no doubt that you aren't troubled by crimes ranging from campaign finance violations by a Walker supporter, embezzlement by Walker aides from charities, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, and misconduct in public office.

Given that the current President shut down verification of credit card payments on his site for donations, allowing unfettered international "donations" to his campaign.

You, it should be noted, have little problem with this.

Inga said...

"you aren't troubled by crimes ranging from campaign finance violations by a Walker supporter, embezzlement by Walker aides from charities, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, and misconduct in public office."
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"Prove it."

2/12/14, 5:42 PM
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Here's the embezzlement story.

Walker aide found guilty in embezzlement.

garage mahal said...

Given that the current President shut down zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz



damikesc said...

Hell, the mayor of NYC just had an ally let out of jail by pressuring the police.

So, spare me your faux indignation.

damikesc said...

Given that the current President shut down zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

That's the funny part.

You're LIVID about "campaign finance violations by a Walker supporter", but seem uninterested in REPEAT violations of law by your beloved President.

I won't even go into the remainder of his assorted illegal activities. Obama is Nixon without the intellect or moral compass.

ken in sc said...

San Diego is a military town. It leans to the right but wobbles a little sometimes.

Jupiter said...

"I just wonder where the Unions get all this money they threw down the toilet here."

They steal it fair and square.

garage mahal said...

You're LIVID about "campaign finance violations by a Walker supporter", but seem uninterested in REPEAT violations of law by your beloved President.

I'm not LIVID and I don't you understand the difference between an actual criminal proceeding and a winger conspiracy theory.

Chuck said...

"I think what we are seeing — and what we saw here in Wisconsin in 2011 — is a new visibility to the dysfunctional cycling of money between the public employee unions and the Democratic Party."

Yes. Exhibit A:
D-E-T-R-O-I-T.


Revenant said...

It's already against federal law to use union dues for political contributions.

It is against the law to sneak into the United States, too, but SOMEBODY mowed my lawn last week.

Revenant said...

Rindfleisch pleaded guilty in 2012 to one felony count of misconduct in office for doing campaign work at her government job.

Didn't Hillary just get caught doing that this week?

garage mahal said...

Hillary plead guilty to one felony count of misconduct in office this week? Guess I missed that.

Smilin' Jack said...

It's 72 degrees in San Diego right now. Fuck San Diego.

damikesc said...

I'm not LIVID and I don't you understand the difference between an actual criminal proceeding and a winger conspiracy theory.

The shutting off of card verification isn't a theory.

Simple reality. It happened. Twice. And the DEFAULT setting is for it to be on, so Obama had it turned off.

John said...

Inga said... "you aren't troubled by crimes ranging from campaign finance violations by a Walker supporter, embezzlement by Walker aides from charities, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, and misconduct in public office."
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"Prove it."

2/12/14, 5:42 PM
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Here's the embezzlement story.

Walker aide found guilty in embezzlement.

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Of course this would never happen if DEMOCRATS were involved...