July 17, 2026

"What Trump did NOT do was even purport to show a single ineligible voter voted in the 2020 election, or..."

"... that any voting machines were actually compromised, voting machines or voter registration databases breached, or election results inaccurately reported. Overall, this was an underwhelming announcement delivered with low energy that changes nothing about how state and local election administrators should run elections. If his government had actual evidence of noncitizen voting, there would be indictments; Trump has been hounding US attorneys to bring such cases, and the fact that he hasn’t shows that these claims likely have no legs.... He also did not offer anything new by way of policy proposals...."

Writes Rick Hasen, in "Trump’s Underwhelming Announcement on Voting Does Not Even Purport to Show That Any Illegal Votes Were Cast in the 2020 Election or That Voting Machines Have Been Hacked or Vote Totals Inaccurate; He Also Made a Pitch to Pass the SAVE America Act But Offered No New Federal Mandates" (Election Law Blog).

See for yourself: 


He started off as if he really wanted to give a State of the Union speech:
Before we begin, I'm proud to report that our country is safer, stronger, and far wealthier than it has ever been before. We are doing great. Less than two years ago, we inherited an economic and social disaster after the worst inflation in 48 years. The wide open borders with millions and millions of people pouring in from all over the world, including criminals of all types and 11,888 murderers, many of whom killed more than one person. We had transgender for everybody, men and women sports, crime ravaging our cities, and the whole world was laughing at us as a nation. But not anymore. Two years ago, our country was dead.

This was the point in the speech where I started repeating lines out loud: Our country was dead!

Now we are the hottest country anywhere in the world. America is respected like we have never been respected before....

The hottest country! 

This week it was announced that inflation saw the largest monthly decline in more than six years.... The tax cuts in our great big beautiful bill are saving hardworking families thousands and thousands of dollars....

He's touting his achievements, going down a list. I lost hope that the big announcement would be big but I kept watching. 20 minutes in:

We won in Venezuela.... We are likewise winning big in Iran....

Who is still watching at this point? Are they groaning? Are there Trump fans, somewhere in America, who feel boosted and proud?

You have to trust your country because if there can be no trust, there can be no greatness. And that's very simple. No trust, no greatness....

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wendybar said...


MAZE
@mazemoore
Biden announced in 2021 that Russia interfered in the 2020 election. Released no evidence, media had no questions. They just went along.

Trump announces Chinese interference, releases documents, media spends all night trying to discredit him.

They are so pathetic.

https://x.com/mazemoore/status/2077973719520059630?s=20

Money Manger said...

The greatest risk of future serious civil unrest will come from an election whose processes are perceived to be compromised, and where the losing side will feel, with potentially violent anger, that they were cheated. Only after such an event, with ensuing destruction and casualties, will there be the political will to clean up our inexcusably sloppy elections.

wendybar said...

Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer
·
5h
Remember when
@HillaryClinton
and
@maddow
asked China to illegally interfere in US elections to help the Democrats defeat Trump?

They told you exactly what the Democrat playbook would be.

https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/2077967072680677688?s=20

wendybar said...

And then there was the COVID "Pandemic" that you can thank Dr Fauci for

Money Manger said...

Similar to what he is trying to do in Iran, Trump wants to get in front of serious future problems (Iran going nuclear, civil unrest from contested elections) and prevent them. Because politicians are rarely so proactive, only reactive, this troubles many critics. And he will never get credit if he is successful--it will be the dog that didn't bark.

Ann Althouse said...

Trump chose to make an EVENT out of that speech and deserves to be judged on the standard he set.

wendybar said...

Sean Davis
@seanmdav
·
10h
ABC will carry The View live every day and claim it’s a bona fide news program and then turn around and refuse to air a primetime presidential address.

ABC isn’t a news network. It’s an unregistered Democrat PAC.

wendybar said...

Maybe because it IS an EVENT, and the left wing media is ignoring it again, whilst they spew conspiracy theories and ruin innocent people's lives for telling us the truth.

mezzrow said...

Fresh peanut butter from our POTUS. We learn more about the audience by their reaction than we learn from the actual speech. Like peanut butter, the content is remarkably consistent, but people expect it to change just due to its source.

I am reminded that Trump is very fortunate in his opposition. Consider what it would take to make this look good. or at least better than the alternative. To most of us, the opposition sorta looks like peanut butter too, but smells a bit funny. Well, that's where we are in July of 2026.

Note that the legacy networks sought to avoid accusations of complicity in any election scheme by not broadcasting the address before debunking it immediately after. That's the ticket, alright.

God Bless the United States of America.

D.D. Driver said...

Here's how the speech should have gone: "It's been six years since the election was 'stolen' and we still can't name one single fucking suspect even though there must be hundreds or at least dozens. I will give $10 million and a pardon to anyone who will come forward with information that will help bring the criminals to justice."

Left Bank of the Charles said...

“No trust, no greatness.”

And that in a nutshell is why Donald a Trump cannot be a great President.

Breezy said...

It’s an election year and it’s Trump. Anyone who has paid attention knows he’s going to be braggadocious. The repetitiveness of it is tiresome but it’s likely necessary to keep reminding people of the good to balance out the bad that the left talks about, also ad nauseum.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Seems like Mr. Hasan should take a little more time to actually examine the evidence released by the ODNI before fixating on his obsession over “naming one voter.” The 278,000 voter registrations that China acquired— especially in the context of blue states currently refusing to share voter registration with the DOJ as REQUIRED BY LAW — should alarm anyone who believes the franchise should be secure for the sake of our country.

John Solomon of Just the News has published articles on the printed ballots from China recovered in MI after the 2020 election. China stole the voter data via the keylogger spyware in the TikTok app, the very exploit that got the app banned and led to the transfer of ownership recently. Careful Althouse readers may recall this being a subject I hammered at the time while many here were writing “like I have data worth stealing!” LOL Ya, just enough data for the CCP to recreate counterfeit drivers licenses and voting registrations.

Look into the documents released before believing the lying cheating Corporate Media.

john mosby said...

Trump has to recite his accomplishments every time he gets in front of a camera, because no one else does. Even Fox News is inconsistent about it. By reeling off all his achievements every single time, he has some hope that a few will leak thru, even in the MSM.

Prof, you are well familiar with everything Trump has done, because you pay attention and do the research. But there aren't 150 million Althouses voting out there. Trump has to figure out ways to push his story to the average working stiff who maybe has 15 minutes a day for news. CC, JSM

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

The speech: we almost walked away at the repetitive MAGA boilerplate but he segued into the four key releases just in time to get our attention. We were highly attentive to the end. Not sure why he started with the “dead country/hot country” schtick but it was a poor choice.

Breezy said...

I don’t think they should be claiming 250k non-citizens registered to vote. It should be ineligible, not non-citizen. From what I’ve seen the vast majority are deceased, not illegal aliens. However, 250k ineligible voters in a small number of states is extremely concerning. Mail-in ballots for anyone not in hardship must be outlawed.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

What evidence did Hillary and Obama provide for their claims that Trump was “compromised by Russia”? The $150K in Facebook ads Russia bought with Jesus arm wrestling Hillary?

What evidence did Biden furnish when he accused Russia of wanting Trump to win?

I choose to judge this episode based on the last three presidents/candidates who made similar claims not on President Trump’s everything plus the kitchen sink rhetorical style. The evidence in this claim is overwhelming.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

I’m afraid “even Fox News” might be ready for retirement seeing as how they can’t seem to find news value in normal politics, such as not even mentioning the McConnell is missing story except for the brief moment after the CNN guy claimed he had a 20-minute talk with Mitch. Fox is really excited to talk about the DSA candidates all day every day making the channel more unwatchable than usual.

Shouting Thomas said...

My unfortunate response to Trump’s speech. Too complicated, and I’m not going to go to the White House site to read the supporting docs. The ensuing debate will take place without reference to the “evidence.”

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Anyone curious about the “journalists paid by China to write anti-Trump propaganda” documents released? Wondering about the jour-no-listers working at ABC and NBC.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

The real action will be the Grand Jury, Shouting Thomas, which is to our benefit because the rules of evidence apply, unlike the corrupt corporate media.

rehajm said...

Trump chose to make an EVENT out of that speech and deserves to be judged on the standard he set.

This is correct. So sorry for you he didn’t have a dull display of pages and pages and pages of documents. Would your attention span have survived that? He’s a politician as are the guilty politicians he’s exposing. Some of us see his opponents as enemies of the state. Some of us want to restore rule of law. That’s a political battle. I want him to be political…

rehajm said...

Politics is short attention span theatre. The people who don't like him and who were all in on eye rolls at the thought of voter fraud, there’s no amount of evidence or facts that will convince them. Everyone’s defiant until the the bars are slammed closed…

Ann Althouse said...

"Politics is short attention span theatre. The people who don't like him and who were all in on eye rolls at the thought of voter fraud, there’s no amount of evidence or facts that will convince them."

The whole first half of the speech — 20 minutes — was filler unrelated to the revelations we were supposed to be receiving.

If he had the evidence, he should have led with it and stated clearly what it was.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Remember when Democrats universally invoked the old “even the APPEARANCE of impropriety” standard for what should be investigated? Well we are way past that realm and have more than an apparent problem, we have millions of dead voters still on rolls, identity theft of almost 300,000 party registrations, vote counting interruptions by fake floods with custodial issues, we have several states with more registered voters than adults living in the state, like Wisconsin itself.

So the hand waving and insistence by one party that we should not even investigate is IMO probable cause to open investigations.

Not an oldster. said...

No New Wars...
That's what Americans came together and voted for.

We'll elect a one armed, blind socialist transperson if that's what it takes, America...

No threat
No joke
We're not silly boomers selling the country out to the globalists, and your bodies are weakening no matter how many more years your dentists and dogs promise...

rehajm said...

such as not even mentioning the McConnell is missing

…my money’s on them finding Mitch after the deadlines have passed…

RoseAnne said...

There is nothing built into the US elections system to "correct" a problem in "real time". The country can't wait 20 months (or 6 years) to have a winner declared. So those who declared Russia had stolen the 2016 election, but 2020 election was a textbook case of how to run an "ethical" election are full of it as are all those who proclaim the opposite. Anybody who sat through the Watergate hearings knows hours were spent to prove even minor points. I seriously doubt that the country has the attention span for that type of hearing now. Nixon did eventually resign,, but it wasn;t a court decision but a combination of the right people leveraging the situation to influence him to resign. I don't know who those people would be today or if they would be willing to do it.

Leland said...

Didn't watch. Said I wouldn't watch. What matters are the actions taken. As for the post heading, while I'm worried about ineligible voters voting, and there are several convictions across the country of them voting; I'm more concerned in eligible voters that had ballots cast in their name while not intending to vote.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

**If he had the evidence, he should have led with it and stated clearly what it was.**

Agreed. Trump has an undisciplined speaking style. So what? He also knew two of the major networks were boycotting his speech and democrats would discount any evidence he articulated.

What about the substance? Either the evidence is there or not.

rehajm said...

Passing the save act is a political battle. He’s trying to force the Senate. They’re scared of their constituents. They don’t want to be Indiana-ed. Consider it wasn’t intended to convince the eye roll crowd.

…will the eye roll crowd head to the white house website to begin sorting through documents? No amount of evidence…

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

Trump doesn’t have standing. Apparently nobody does, nobody that I know of. Maybe illegals have standing. If someone kept one from voting, they have a case, or something.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

Elections are held in such a way as to favor cheating.

rehajm said...

“Does Not Even Purport to Show That Any Illegal Votes Were Cast in the 2020 Election or That Voting Machines Have Been Hacked or Vote Totals Inaccurate”

…the people paid to move goal posts must have Musk money by now…

rhhardin said...

Trump is only good for zingers. His speeches are for some other audience.

Leland said...

Saved a lot of time and just went to the White House website on the information provided. It's not a nothing burger, but nothing I haven't heard about for years. The electronic voting machines are full of vulnerabilities, and the people that pretend otherwise are why the rest of us get regular cyber security training. My personal data was given to China during the Obama Administration after it was collected by the Bush Administration. Michigan is but one problem. And non-citizens (and dead citizens) has constantly been discussed for decades. The states that allow it keep acting like it is no big deal, while they also take longer and longer to count votes.

Mark said...

He talks about trust, then tells us how great things are going with Iran.

Howard said...

Sounds like he advertised the second coming and delivered a stillborn baby. He gave the Senate the excuse they needed to kill the Save bill.

Howard said...

BTW, FYI, I didn't watch the speech nor read the article linked or any other news on the subject. I just skilled the Althouse post. Why waste time on gobbiltygook.

rehajm said...

…they were going to kill it regardless…

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

It’s on critics to explain why CIA and FBI memos written during Biden’s term should be disregarded now. Like the memo in which they warn Biden that China is interfering in the election. Were they lying then?

The internal FBI memo written during 2018 is available on X. Read Nikki Flores giggling about “basically running a shadow government now” in FBI chat. The problem the resistance (remember them?) had was their inability to stop bragging to each other just like Strok and Page vowing to stop Trump by any means.

Last night was the continuation of the same story.

Dave Begley said...

Morning Joe went on and on about saying “trans everyone.”

Then speculation after speculation about the next election. Speculating that people won’t vote.

I don’t believe anything from the Fake News.

tim maguire said...

I didn’t watch the speech because that’s not the part I care about. I care about what happens next.

At least half the country does not believe elections are secure and are reluctant to trust outcomes they don’t like. That is destabilizing.

It doesn’t matter if you believe 2020 was rigged. Trust in the system must be restored and the SAVE Act is the only tool on the table to do it. You may not like this or that specific provision, but no good American opposes what it is designed to do.

Dave Begley said...

The spin is that the SAVE Act can’t pass because it doesn’t have the votes. 60? 51?

Sen. Mike Lee says put it on the floor and see how long the Dems will talk.

Iman said...

ThePersistence
Jul 16, 2026
@ScottPresler

If I were the Republican Party, I would do a query for every address where 6+ voters are registered.

Then, I would go through that list to look for how many of those addresses are P.O. Boxes, vacant lots, malls, businesses, churches, shelters, or other non-residential locations.

Clyde said...

No good American may oppose what the SAVE Act is designed to do, but there are a lot of people out there who are not "good Americans." And unfortunately, they are allowed to vote, too.

Achilles said...

Ann Althouse said...

Trump chose to make an EVENT out of that speech and deserves to be judged on the standard he set.

Ann is whining. How pathetic. Trump isn't acting up to her standards.

A person who spent her life putting her students into debt and is now retired off a system that wrecked the futures of most of her students wants Trump to do what she wants.

Trump pointed out that people like Ann who want to bury their heads in the sand about 2020 are just cowards.

We would not have a country if it was up to Ann.

You should have to serve this country and contribute to be able to vote and determine our future. Nobody who actually cares about our freedom and the futures of our children would vote for someone like Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton.

planetgeo said...

Sure. Just keep trusting that actual communists are actually winning completely fair and secure elections...well, because you don't like the rhetorical style of the guy presenting the evidence that China is hacking our elections and there are hundreds of thousands of ineligible voters voting. So, yeah, I guess there's no need to inspect anything, since he's so obnoxious.

As for me, I totally trust my banks, but I'm glad they get audited regularly anyway. So why can't we audit our elections and our voter rolls too? And why are Democrats so desperately trying to keep them from being audited?

Iman said...

There is no valid reason why Voter ID should not be required.

NOT ONE.

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Achilles said...

Howard said...

BTW, FYI, I didn't watch the speech nor read the article linked or any other news on the subject. I just skilled the Althouse post. Why waste time on gobbiltygook.

You are just outsourcing your critical thinking to a woman who is riding a pension paid for by her students who can't afford houses or afford to have kids.

Ann is tied to a world view that is formed around looting the future of the country.

She is going to do anything she can to ignore the cheating and depravity of our corrupt voting system because it is what allowed the baby boomers and government leaches in power long enough to set up gold parachutes for themselves.

Inga said...

“Who is still watching at this point? Are they groaning? Are there Trump fans, somewhere in America, who feel boosted and proud?”

Yes, we read what the Trump fans have to say here every day.

Achilles said...

Ann Althouse said...

"Politics is short attention span theatre. The people who don't like him and who were all in on eye rolls at the thought of voter fraud, there’s no amount of evidence or facts that will convince them."

The whole first half of the speech — 20 minutes — was filler unrelated to the revelations we were supposed to be receiving.

If he had the evidence, he should have led with it and stated clearly what it was.


He presented the evidence. We all have.

You are just not an honest broker here. The evidence is blatant.

As soon as you board up windows and kick out observers it is not an honest election. It does not take 3 days to count ballots.

You are just being completely dishonest here.

They have thousands of unfolded military absentee ballots in Georgia. You are just being totally ridiculous.

Not an oldster. said...

No New Wars...

After you got done clapping for the tranny bullshit at althouse, did you hear anything about the new wars in Iran and lebanon,ann? Talk about that?

Do we wait for netanyahu's speech, boomer? You clapping for that at the olde Cohen place?

Inga said...

“No good American may oppose what the SAVE Act is designed to do, but there are a lot of people out there who are not "good Americans." And unfortunately, they are allowed to vote, too.”

If only there would’ve been less “good” Germans, Hitler may not have happened.

MadTownGuy said...

Iman said...

"ThePersistence
Jul 16, 2026
@ScottPresler

If I were the Republican Party, I would do a query for every address where 6+ voters are registered.

Then, I would go through that list to look for how many of those addresses are P.O. Boxes, vacant lots, malls, businesses, churches, shelters, or other non-residential locations."

This. As my boss once told me, well, OK, repeatedly told me, "Observation and deduction without investigation is worthless "

Dave Begley said...

Ann is right on one thing. He should not have started the way he did. It should have just been the election stuff.

After that speech, JD on Rogan, and Marco’s speech yesterday, I’ve made up my mind that Marco needs to run.

I don’t want to hear JD saying like, like, like.

Leland said...

I did my morning read of Instapundit. Posts late yesterday suggested a speech as important as the Cuban Missile Crisis. If the topic is about bureaucrats covering up foreign meddling I our national affairs, then let’s talk Covid rather than TikTok.

Bob Boyd said...

Trump over-promised and under-delivered, which is unfortunately what I have come to expect with these bombshell announcements. It's not that I now doubt the election interference claims. It's that he was poorly prepared to elucidate and explain all this to people who haven't been following it for the last ten years or who are politically disposed to doubt everything Trump says in the first place.
For example, when he talked about China stealing voter information, most people are going to say, "That's no good, but so what? What does that mean? How does it affect me? What can they do with that information? How can that information be used to change the outcome of an election?" Trump failed to carefully explain that. Perhaps he's incapable of long, complicated explanations or breaking things down so they can be clearly understood. Not everyone is a teacher. If that's the case, he should now give the task to someone who can. Very few people are going to go to the WH website and read documents. Maybe appoint an election interference czar and keep him or her front and center talking about what happened, what is being done about it. He didn't even elaborate on what was in these documents or where they came from or why they change things.
Many of us we're hoping this was going to be a big breakthrough and people were going to be exposed and held to account. I don't feel like I leaned anything new. What it actually turned out to be was an attempt to put more pressure on Congress to pass the Save America Act. Honestly, I think Trump failed even to do that. It may have had the opposite effect. Hope I'm wrong.

Achilles said...

Inga said...

“No good American may oppose what the SAVE Act is designed to do, but there are a lot of people out there who are not "good Americans." And unfortunately, they are allowed to vote, too.”

If only there would’ve been less “good” Germans, Hitler may not have happened.

A person who supported censorship during COVID, supported killing and jailing her political opponents, and supports burning flags with illegal immigrants in our streets wants you to know she thinks the people she wants censored and jailed are NAZIs because we want you to show ID and prove citizenship when you register to vote.

Inga thinks freedom to speak the truth is bad and want you in jail if you do it.

Inga thinks showing ID to vote and knowing who is voting is bad.

A good American finds people like Inga to be reprehensible.

Inga is not a good American and it is unfortunate for people who value freedom she was lucky enough to be born here.

Inga said...

https://wisconsinwatch.org/2026/02/wisconsin-more-registered-voters-than-adults-trump-

Does Wisconsin have more registered voters than adults?

“No.

Wisconsin doesn’t have more registered voters than the adult population.

The claim, recently recirculated by President Donald Trump, combines two voter lists to misrepresent the number of active, eligible voters in Wisconsin.

Wisconsin’s adult population is around 4.8 million, according to Jan. 1 estimates from the state Demographic Services Center.

On Feb. 1, Wisconsin had around 3.6 million active, registered voters, according to the Wisconsin Elections Commission.

The state has 4.6 million inactive voters on a separate list. Voters move to the inactive list if they die, move to a new state or are convicted of a felony, for example.

Adding those two numbers produces a total of 8.2 million, more than the state’s total population.

State law requires an inactive list for record-keeping purposes. Plus, it helps clerks prevent fraud by catching someone registering under a dead person’s name, for example.”

Marcus Bressler said...

Althouse is cranky because she had to stay up late to watch Trump.

Achilles said...

The problem for Trump is that the DC cabal has moved the goal posts to If you don't have pictures of illegal voters in a booth it didn't happen.

The mail in voting and complete inability to match voter rolls to the number of ballots cast just makes our elections a farce.

With paper ballots and clean voter rolls and same day elections democrats lose 25 million voters nation wide. Schumer already admitted that.

Marcus Bressler said...

The local ABC affiliate didn't have the president's speech on and then had the audacity to post on FB a "fact check" on it, telling us what he said. You cannot hate the Media enough.

Shouting Thomas said...

“If only there would’ve been less “good” Germans, Hitler may not have happened.”

God, you’re awful, Inga. How in God’s name can you continue to look yourself in the mirror while peddling such horrifying slander? Shame on you.

Peachy+2 said...

The left have not given us a drop of evidence that 2020 was secure. Not one drop.

Peachy+2 said...

Voter ID really pisses off the radicals on the left.

WE also have a radical leftist terrorism problem.

Peaceful warrior said...

Achilles, disagreeing with Trump’s presentation is not cowardice, and criticizing a speech is not an attack on the country. Ann Althouse’s point was simple: Trump promised major evidence, then buried it beneath twenty minutes of unrelated boasting and still did not show that illegal votes changed the 2020 result. Your attacks on her career and character do nothing to answer that criticism. And restricting voting to people whose politics you approve of is the opposite of defending constitutional government.

Achilles said...

Inga said...

https://wisconsinwatch.org/2026/02/wisconsin-more-registered-voters-than-adults-trump-

Does Wisconsin have more registered voters than adults?

“No.

Wisconsin doesn’t have more registered voters than the adult population


LOL.

Then you wont mind if everyone re-registers with photo ID and proof of citizenship right?

Oh I forgot you are fighting against that and you are a completely dishonest fascist piece of shit.

Calling the people who want transparent auditable election "good" germans is a bad look even for you.

Peachy+2 said...

Inag drinks Candace Owens' koolaid.
She drank enough MSNBC koolaide for a lifetime. I bet she's a tubby little old nazi.... after all that sugary koolaide.

Peachy+2 said...

Leftwing run blue states refuse to clean up their voter roles.

FACT.

Achilles said...

Peaceful warrior said...

Achilles, disagreeing with Trump’s presentation is not cowardice, and criticizing a speech is not an attack on the country. Ann Althouse’s point was simple: Trump promised major evidence, then buried it beneath twenty minutes of unrelated boasting and still did not show that illegal votes changed the 2020 result. Your attacks on her career and character do nothing to answer that criticism. And restricting voting to people whose politics you approve of is the opposite of defending constitutional government.

LOL!

The dishonesty of these people is staggering.

They locked observers out of 6 vote counting stations and continued counting when they said they weren't.

At that point it is over. The election is rigged. Everything that happens after that is fraud.

You are just another coward that hides behind silly words and fake politeness.

Get over yourself.

lonejustice said...

"The speech (by Trump) appears simply to have constituted a last-ditch attempt to promote the SAVE Act. Whatever the merits of the proposed law, the speech made a thin case that will leave the SAVE Act exactly where it is."

-- Scott Johnson, Powerline Blog

Iman said...

“I don’t want to hear JD saying like, like, like.”

Sounds a tad silly, this injection of Karenism.

Peachy+2 said...

Leftwing voter fraud is a problem.

Leftwing terrorism is a problem.

The collective left: You have no proof!

Charlie Currie said...

It’s never the crime, it’s the coverup.

Trump wasn’t exposing voter fraud, he was exposing the deep state coverup of Chinese intrusion into our voting system - nit Russian, but Chinese.

China owns the deep state.

Spiros Pappas said...

Eight states – California, Colorado, Hawaii, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, and Washington – conduct all-mail elections. In these states, voting is conducted primarily by mail, and all eligible voters receive a ballot by default. If you're an illegal and you are on the voter rolls, you get a ballot. It's hard to believe that they're not voting. And why didn't these states hand over their voter rolls?

I think SAVE act should be modified -- strict id and citizenship requirements for mail in ballots, simple ID for in person.

tim maguire said...

**Clyde said...No good American may oppose what the SAVE Act is designed to do, but there are a lot of people out there who are not "good Americans."**

And most of them are in the Senate. Most Americans, even most Democrats, support the SAVE Act. And yet the (Republican majority) Senate will not send it to the president.

Peachy+2 said...

Again - we all watched as Biden's numbers hockey sticked in shut-down regions of over-night and multi-day counting in blue states and cities.

WE all have eyes.

Peachy+2 said...

In CO - 300,000 ballots do not have a chain of custody.

wild chicken said...

Everybody knows, that if we didn't win every fucking state, district and precinct then those other guys must have cheated

tim maguire said...

**Inga said...If only there would’ve been less “good” Germans, Hitler may not have happened.**

"Fewer"

What's the message, here, Inga? That democracy is to blame for Hitler? That the answer is to undermine democracy?

jim said...

Pathetic. "Won" in Venezula? "Winning" in Iran? Should be a laughing stock, but our future as THE great power has been compromised so no one should be laughing.

Wants to push his election bill, shoots self in foot.

Peachy+2 said...

Ballot harvesting should be illegal.

The idiot GOP - "lets do it too" -

Spiros Pappas said...

In Trump's defense, he is releasing tons of evidence. The Democrats didn't release anything in Russian collusion.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...

We're gonna need to order some more clown emojis. 🤡

Trump's speech was intended for the MAGA faithful. He can't even wait for the election result before he claims he lost it unfairly. Will he arrange for another rally of his supporters to fix the injustice?

If he loses, it's "rigged." If he wins, it's "by a landslide." Our election integrity is not the problem -- it's the fragile ego of the current president that is the real issue.

rehajm said...

…people who will never support him offering their unsolicited advice. He should. He should never. They’ll never learn…

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

It's not a coincidence that there is a lot of fraud being discovered in nearly all aspects of government spending.
The Supremes are probably the most fraud free entity in the country.
The Dems court packing ideas will put an end to that.

RCOCEAN II said...

What Trump said - or reveled - was important. Basically, he's releasing classified reports which showed China was trying to rig our elections and our election machines were/are vulernable to hacking and manipulation. And also that all these "classfied Reports" were withheld from him.

Unfortunately, this is in the last 1/2 of the speech, and too much of it is generalizations and verbiage. Trump says he'll do this or that but of course every action will be stopped by leftwing US District judges - who can do anything.

RCOCEAN II said...

He also said they've found 250000 foreigners voting in our elections. Which wont bother our elites since they want foreigners voting.

RCOCEAN II said...

You know the 2020 Election was rigged since the MSM not only refuse to investigate, they refuse to even let someone assert it without a barrage of insults or propaganda.

Tina Trent said...

Georgia State Senator Greg Dolezal, a very decent and modest man, has perhaps the best explanation for where we are at with the extremely recent revelations that have made this a news story again. It will be some time before we sort this out, and patience is necessary, especially as this will likely not change anything beyond our understanding of the many different iterations of fraud. At best, it may be just more evidence that we do need reform and accountability

rehajm said...

“Unfortunately, this is in the last 1/2 of the speech, and too much of it is generalizations and verbiage.”

Yah. My attention span is short- that’s Trump’s fault…

Tina Trent said...

Dolezal's comment is on X.

Jaq said...

Before he turned into the bloodthirsty lackey of a movement that claims the right to exterminate the inhabitants of a land based on a Bronze Age document that does not even apply, I would be in here defending him, guns a blazing, but let him twist in the wind with the coming impeachment, I will be sure to have popcorn on hand.

Peachy+2 said...

The point of Biden's allowing in millions of illegals - it degrades our way of life. WE all are forced to pay for illegal welfare.
Illegals are the golden goose for the corrupt left.
They will be given amnesty as soon as the corrupt dems gain any power again. Also - as with de-fund the police/ and shut down the prisons/ no restrictions or punishment for real crime - the illegals will be given hyper protected status to commit crimes and drive on our roads - killing more citizens.
And the voting block for dems is the ultimate goal.

Voter ID was banned by the left.

Tina Trent said...

Actually, Althouse, they found that 1,000 voters were registered at the address of an empty building. That is the smallest example out of a few hundred thousand, but it alone will take a great deal of time to investigate.

wildswan said...

Althouse is usually correct in her statements about the general reaction in the country. I am not pleased to hear that the speech was considered a big yawn but what Althouse says has to be carefully considered. It raises the question: Was this the last move on the chessboard relating to 2020 or the first relating to 2026 and 2028? I see it as a first move. The documents showing illegal voter registration and Chinese influence are now out there. There is time to study them before the next election and we know there is not time for any study of long intricate documents after elections even though California vote-counting drags things out for weeks. There are those among us who can analyze these documents and publish the results and their meaning even before the upcoming election. If SAVE does not pass and strange results come in from widespread California-counting in bluestates and cities in November 2026, these analyses will mate up in real time with important events, i.e., election results. So I think that relative to our crooked media, this speech is somewhat like telling kids at the beach they need an education to get ahead and they should do summer work to overcome the effects of the Covid years or like Churchill telling the House of Commons in 1938 that Hitler was dangerous and Munich was not "peace with honor." The media aren't equipped to understand. Just as it's no use speaking to the kids during the lazy summer days because what matters is how many of them have good parents who will look ahead, plan for them and help them with self-discipline, so it's no use expecting the lefty media to be concerned enough about the election to read anything longer than 148 characters about election reform but what matters is how many pundits on the right will read, grasp and publish on the important information which the speech points toward.

Eva Marie said...

Definitely let’s start talking about the style of Trump’s speech.
Voter ID. Same day voting. Paper ballots. Transparent counting. Everything else is noise.

Peachy+2 said...

In LA - a woman was convicted after she bribed drugged out street dwellers to register to vote using her address.

Bob Boyd said...

I don't think this speech moved the needle. It's a hard needle to move at this point. It pains me to say it, but Trumps' attempt last night came across as kinda half-assed.
He can fix it, though. It's not like this was his only chance, do or die. It was just one at bat. He needs to keep after it, talk about it more, not less. It's very important. What about appointing an election security czar? Why not do that?
Not Rubio, tho. He's got enough on his plate.

Peachy+2 said...

The corrupt left told us to buy the covid origins "Wet Market" baloney - or else.

Clues that the corrupt left are in bed with the XI communists.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Sundance has the docs in zip files. They are huge.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

Make the vote like a roadside farm stand and that's the value people process.

Mark said...

Achilles tells someone to get over themselves.
Achilles, of all people.

I haven't laughed this much about a comment here for a very, very long time.

rhhardin said...

Ineligible voters isn't the problem. The problem is mass importation of votes that nobody cast.

Peachy+2 said...

Speaking Truth in the face of the left's corrupt non-stop lies.

Mr. D said...

Trump often seems to think making the pitch is sufficient. It's not. If he's right, there need to be indictments. A shitload of indictments. And they need to be announced on a Monday morning, so it dominates the news cycle. Roll up on the malefactors. Name names.

Peachy+2 said...

Trump:
"Starting during the 2020 election cycle, the People's Republic of China carried out what is believed to be the largest compromise of election data in history, resulting in China's illicit acquisition of 220 million US voter files."

"That information includes names, addresses, phone numbers, political party preferences, and other sensitive data that would be needed to register to vote and engage in other nefarious activities, which is exactly what was happening. This data loss presents an unprecedented election security nightmare."

Collective corrupt liar anti- voter ID left:
Yawn

Peachy+2 said...

Rep. Brandon Gill (R-TX) says it.

"At this point, if you don't support mandating voter ID and proof-of-citizenship to vote, I will just assume that you're in favor of illegal aliens voting and foreign adversaries compromising our elections."

RCOCEAN II said...

Trump ordered the states to hand over their voter registration rolls so they could identify foreigners, dead people, and ghosts. Then 1 of the 700 district court judges stopped it because "blah blah blah I dont like that"

A few of the states did hand over their rolls and Trump administration found 250K foreigners voting. Project that onto the blue states (which withheld their rolls) and its probably in the millions. Invalid votes. Not "Fraud". But people who shouldn't be voting.

Peachy+2 said...

"Trump White House: "I saw a post from Olive Garden that in order to take advantage of their never-ending pasta pass, you have to show PHOTO ID! And I thought — that's weird, Olive Garden takes pasta pass security more serious than Democrats are taking election security!"

(Eric D's on X)

Bob Boyd said...

What I wanted to hear: "Those responsible have been sent to a remote island wrapped in heavy chains."

What I heard: "There are documents on whitehouse.gov. Go read them if you're interested."

So I guess, given my expectations, the speech was bound to feel a little anti-climactic. But there is no reason to be demoralized. That's how they want us to feel. Fight on, America!

RCOCEAN II said...

Trump's problem is that people are stupid. Smart people understand you cant have rigged elections and foreigner voting. But dumb people's eyes glaze over. What's that gotta do with my pockebook? Whats thats gotta do with muh guns?

You litterally have to draw things in crayon for these dummies to care.

Spiros Pappas said...

So 2 million people flee California but still have mail in ballots sent to their former addresses. Another half million homeless people are somehow registered to vote and use mail ins as well. And who knows how many illegals are registered to vote in California. It is very likely that none of these people are actually voting. But it does seem like "someone" is returning the ballots.

Jersey Fled said...

Per Grok. “ , “There have been dozens—and in fact hundreds over many years—of people indicted or convicted for illegal voting,”

Including recent instances in NJ, Alabama, Florida and Massachusetts.

tim maguire said...

**Bob Boyd said...What I wanted to hear: "Those responsible have been sent to a remote island wrapped in heavy chains."**

Sentence first. Then trial. Then investigation.

Peachy+2 said...

meanwhile - the left's sleazy kinda guy

'Another Week, Another Gropey Sleazebag Democrat. “Ruben Gallego(D) brings extra heaps of awful to his gotta Boink the staff, story. Gallego(D) served divorce papers to his wife when she was very, very pregnant and, as we’re all aware, was Eric Swalwell’s defender & wingman.”
- insty

Aggie said...

Yes, style is the main thing. Look at that story over there, in the pen.

How many A.I. agents have already looked through all of the documentation that was posted last night, and have pronounced their findings in a concise, easily digested manner?

Funny how there aren't any stories about what a dud the documentation is. One might think that there would be no shortage of such stories, given the lightning fast capabilities of the present A.I. generation. One might think, if there were something to the voter fraud problem, that a curious Fourth Estate might be going with the big reveal on that story, too.

But, what does the 'no stories' result say? None of the journalists quoted above seem to have done their homework yet.

Peachy+2 said...

Spiros - Soon the corrupt commie left will make it illegal to ask questions.

RCOCEAN II said...

Of course this is just more of the same. The Democrats and the Left want to win by any means neccessary. That means rigging elections. It means fraud. It means letting in millions of illegals so they can vote.

They don't want voter ID laws. They want to win. And they don't care how.

The question is why are the Republican Elite so blase about the whole thing. And the answer is they don't really care about winning. They care about their $$$. As long as they have enough votes in Congress to protect rich people's $$ - everything is Jake. Its why we elect R majorities and they absolutely nothing. They dont care.

RCOCEAN II said...

Yeah, this election stuff is so boring. Lets derail to a meaningless sex scandal that will effect nothing.

Dave Begley said...

Elections run in blue states are broken and the Dems don't want to fix them because that's how they win. The SAVE Act is the bare minimum and the Senate can't even do that.

This is all on John Thune.

Randomizer said...

Trump can't do it all. The rest of us need to put in some effort. The speech raised the issue and introduced the documentation. Read the reports.

Only 10 states have processed their complete voter registration lists through the SAVE system to identify non-citizens or dead people registered to vote. Why would any state want non-citizens or dead people on their voter rolls?

Citizens and the conscientious journalist can start asking why other states haven't run their lists.

Dave Begley said...

What I don't get is how is it that we can't defend our own democracy are run fair and secure elections? Answer: Dems don't want it because if the elections were fair, they'd lose. Sen. Slotkin admitted it.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Trump set the scene last night. The grand juries will hear evidence. Over the last few months Clapper and Brennan and others were allegedly subpoenaed in the SDFL but there’re few leaks unlike the get-Trump grand juries. This story will grow to occupy most of the news space by the midterms. Evidence of NBC broadcasting Chinese propaganda is already coming out.

Dogma and Pony Show said...

Most people, if wrongly accused of cheating at something, would go out of their way to show they weren't.

Bob Boyd said...

Where's your sense of humor this morning, tim?

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Don’t gloss over the fact every single e-voting machine does connect to the internet, is vulnerable to hacking and does not have the “safeguards” we were told made them “secure.” “Any exploit is a total exploit,” but no biggie right?

Temujin said...

My first comment to my wife was that someone else should have been sent out to present this. It is extremely important information. It outlines numerous ways in which the Chinese impacted voters, voter rolls, how they could have manipulated registrations, and given the information on hundreds of thousands of voters, manipulate entire elections through social media pushes and influencers.
Not to mention: our intelligence community knew what was going on and made the decision to keep it from the President. (yet again).
It's not 'like' we have a separate inside group running the government. We actually do. And as it turns out, they work with the CCP, not to protect us against the CCP.

This is much more than the immediate reaction from the usual people is showing.

But so many hate Trump. And truth be told, I cannot stand listening to a Trump speech. This should have been about the important facts from the start. Instead, he set about doing one of his all-purpose campaign type speeches, "like no one has ever seen before". I wanted to turn it off before he got to the goods. And I am for him. Imagine the world of people who hate him.

Marco Rubio would have been a more impactful presenter of this info.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

So will Democrats give us permission to investigate and determine if fraud exists and how much there is? Can we do fact finding?

rcommal said...

I did watch the speech, live, the whole thing. Donald J. Trump is our President, and when a President, any and every President, says he is going to make a major, official speech in primetime, I watch it, because I require that of myself as an American citizen (born in Greenberg, IN of natural born parents, one from IN and one from IL). I’m with Althouse in that there seemed to be a lot of clutter in the front part of the speech and little new let alone bombshell in the last, shorter part of it. I didn’t see much substantive point to the exercise. But he is our President, and so I didn’t watch it in its entirety. I’m glad it was relatively brief.

Regards, Lori (reader_iam)

P.S. Digression: Althouse used to not like called Ann here. It’s why I always address her or refer to her as Althouse. Am I misremembering? Or maybe this has changed?

rcommal said...

Sorry, that’s Greensburg, IN. Autocorrect wants to change it, God know why!!! Weird.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Here you go...
https://www.whitehouse.gov/election-integrity/
ignore away!

Peachy+2 said...

Totalitarian communist rule in places like China depend heavily on making sure the vote "looks" real - but isn't.

rcommal said...

Damnit! “And so I DID watch it…” I really need to discipline myself to comment only via computer or iPad, and NOT phone, as this morning! My eyes and fingers don’t work well that way.

Peachy+2 said...

Temujin - Yeah - Trump's ability to speak is lacking. I've grown to appreciate him more than I ever - but his speaking style is... frustrating.

Peachy+2 said...

Randomizer - indeed.
Sadly - only rage fueled and paid leftists are engaging.
For some reason - the GOP base/ or Trump's base - whatever you'd like to call it- are not motivated to do much of anything.

D.D. Driver said...

Trump: I'd like to report a crime.
Dispatcher: Continue.
Trump: Someone robbed my bank.
Dispatcher: Do you have a suspect?
Trump: No.
Dispatcher: Are there any witnesses we can interview?
Trump: No.
Dispatcher: How much is missing?
Trump: I don't know.
Dispatcher: What do you mean you don't know?
Trump: I don't know. It's not auditable.
Dispatcher: So why do you think your bank was robbed?
Trump: Because the bank up the street has more money in it than mine and I just can't accept that.

This is ridiculous. It's been six years and you clowns are still chasing the Boogieman. If there was a massive fraud, there would a suspect by now. Jesus fucking Christ they will find JonBenet's killer before Trump can find the "totally real" fraudsters.

Ice Nine said...

Althouse is absolutely right about Trump's speech.

I sat down to hear him deliver the promised Democrat crook-scorching and in dismay watched him soporifically blathering as usual about his usual (albeit legitimate) litany. Waited for the "beef" - to no avail. What a disappointment.

Peachy+2 said...

We need an army of Scott Preslers

Perhaps the lack of enthusiasm on the right comes from the fear that the vile corrupt left will murder you.

RJW said...

It’s an interesting sales pitch that falls back to whether you believe Biden legitimately won or you just follow the herd and accept that as factual.

The plot appears as we begin with “the widespread fraud of 2020” as an established fact although that assumed fact was never established.

I don’t believe widespread fraud sufficient to change the certified outcome was ever demonstrated, and Trump’s speech last night still didn’t identify illegal votes that changed that outcome, voting machines that altered totals, or reported results that were inaccurate.

That doesn’t mean every concern he raised is imaginary. Foreign acquisition of voter data, questionable registrations, outdated voter rolls and system vulnerabilities can all warrant investigation and reform. But evidence that something could be exploited is not evidence that it was exploited successfully, much less that it changed the presidency.

I can still agree with election deniers on many issues they advocate- voter ID, signature verification, citizenship requirements and other safeguards. Where I differ is treating those reforms as a response to a stolen election, while I view them as prospective policies that must be evaluated on their own merits.

The claim that 2020 was stolen now operates as the accepted premise for testing constitutional authority and passing the SAVE America Act even though the promised presentation still did not establish that premise.

Peachy+2 said...

DD (Democratic) troll - arrives for dookie

Dogma and Pony Show said...

A lot of seemingly reasonable minds of a certain age are closed to the possibility that the party of Eugene McCarthy, women's lib, environmentalism, civil rights marches, etc., could have sunk so low as to scheme with foreign powers to steal elections. So we witness a lot of cognitive resistance that usually shows up in the form of demands for proof beyond a reasonable doubt, which the same people don't require for allegations against republicans, and which is impossible to provide anyway in a world where people get to pick and choose what "facts" they see on the internet that they wish to believe.

planetgeo said...

Gosh, it's so hard to imagine what the Chinese, with world-class expertise in AI, could POSSIBLY do with the complete voting data of 220 million Americans.

Bob Boyd said...

Fraud absolutely everywhere...except in elections.

rcommal said...

For practical purposes, I am going to link here to pretty thorough basic overview of voter files and the info available. The link goes to Ballotpedia. It’s helpful.

Regards, Lori (reader_iam)

Rustygrommet said...

"God, you’re awful, Inga. How in God’s name can you continue to look yourself in the mirror while peddling such horrifying slander? Shame on you."

Maybe her oxygen tank ran out?

Paul said...

I'm a very simple minded man... no ID.. no VOTE. Just seems that that is the only way to have a fair election. We have ID to do many things today... even see Obama's library.. so surely anyone that wants to vote... just get a valid ID.

That would take out China, Russia, NK, whatever ideas of messing with the vote. But of course, what if one party wants to keep messing with it? Dead people, illegals, homeless insane/drugged people, etc???

Most states give free IDs to those that cannot afford it (but you have to PROVE you are you!)

No ID.. no vote.

Peachy+2 said...

Imagine if Citizens cared about their country?

(we already know the DDD- KKK - Nazi(D) Soviet left care about power- intimidation, violence, and lies. )

planetgeo said...

Trump has raised the Alarm and pointed to the specific threats, for now as assertions. Whether you love him or you hate him, ignore that alarm that your ( and our) peril.

Peachy+2 said...

The a-hole left collective:

"VOTER ID IS RACIST!"

Rustygrommet said...

Mike.
"Careful Althouse readers may recall this being a subject I hammered at the time while many here were writing “like I have data worth stealing!” LOL Ya, just enough data for the CCP to recreate counterfeit drivers licenses and voting registrations."

Oddly enough. Not long ago customs at O'Hare cargo seized thousands of counterfeit Illinois drivers licenses. Again. Oddly enough from China.
But I have the greats assurances from very self important people, who I wouldn't trust holding your mothers handbag, that all our elections, every one, are secure and trustworthy. Where is O'hare Airport? Oh, yeah. Chicago.

Jaq said...

Ok, I will say one thing. These voting systems must have been deliberately designed to be untraceably manipulated after the fact. There is no other explanation, except perhaps rank incompetence.

Look at Colorado, Democrats have such complete control over the vote counting that they are choosing the winner of the Republican primaries.

bagoh20 said...

Wow! That post and the comments here are both a whole lot of missing the point, and much of it on purpose.
Our elections are obviously an insecure swiss cheese of sloppiness and corruption. Everyone knows it, whether they admit it or not. The idea that enemies foreign and domestic are not taking advantage of that is equivalent to believing you will get rich from that Nigerian email from a prince.
Trump made it front page, and he's not running again, so it wasn't for him. Sure he'd like to be vindicated, but there is no way to avoid it looking that way if you want this top-of-the-list disaster fixed. It must be fixed. We are essentially the only target worth aiming at for election fraud operations worldwide, and it's the easiest, most powerful way to influence the most important nation in the world. That's not the kind of thing you protect with hope and apathy, or ignore due to butt hurt.
IT'S NOT ABOUT TRUMP! It's about us, and everything that is America to the world. Why bother assassinating a President or fighting wars when you can simply pick the leaders of even the most powerful nation with the simplest of tools?
.

Peachy+2 said...

For Inga

planetgeo said...

Oops! Yet another communist got "elected". Funny how that's suddenly happening, isn't it?

Peachy+2 said...

AWWW - Gallego(D), Swalwell(D) and Soros(D). So cute!

James K said...

"But evidence that something could be exploited is not evidence that it was exploited successfully, much less that it changed the presidency."

We have a system that makes it virtually impossible to obtain such evidence. The result is that neither side can have any confidence that elections are honest and vote tallies accurate. Yet only one side wants to keep it that way. Hmm.

There is no good argument for the status quo, no good argument against Voter ID and other measures to insure, or at least enhance, election security. But the left just stamps its collective feet and screams "Voter suppression!"

Iman said...

So… the CIA’s in charge of U.S. elections, and 278,000 voters illegally voting in key congressional districts are not big deals or something?

Enough of this Goldilocks crap, you bunch of leftwing sissies.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...

People seem surprised that Trump would lie about election interference while simultaneously releasing documents that prove he was lying.

When followers will repeat whatever you say regardless of the evidence, the truth no longer matters.

Peachy said...

Kak-a-bot - the leftwing bot is here. with words.

Original Mike said...

I see Donald Driver still hasn't figured out who was running the DOJ for 4 of his "it's been 6 years you dumb, retarded motherfuckers!"

Iman said...

Kak-ah, kak-ah…

Peachy said...

Bagoh for thread win. Exactly. Right.

Apathy will kill this nation.
Left-wing lies are the toxic poison, and everyone drinks it.

Meade said...

Did Trump steal from the Democrats the ideas in last night’s excellent and timely speech? Let the People decide:
https://x.com/kanekoathegreat/status/1648462770936115202?s=46

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...

Meade should go get a cognitive test to see if he is as smart as the President.

Trump brought up Maduro last night in the context of his election conspiracies. It wouldn’t surprise me if he’s preparing to strike a deal with him and claim that Venezuela worked with China to rig the 2020 U.S. election. His comment last night looks like another step toward that narrative.

Jersey Fled said...

I see we’ve progressed from the “it didn’t happen” phase to the “it happened but not that much” phase to the “”it happened more than a little but it didn’t matter” phase. We’re now moving along briskly to the “but Trump” phase.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

So can we do fact finding now?

Peachy+2 said...

We really need the Xi Democrat party Soviet media to weigh in.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Bipartisan fact finding specifically?

DINKY DAU 45 said...

For those who just spout talking point and line up with their colors (red /blue/ others)
SAVE ACT
Core idea: The SAVE Act requires documented proof of U.S. citizenship to register for federal elections, and photo ID to vote.This replaces the current system where you simply attest you’re a citizen under penalty of perjury.
This is needed,
Mandatory documentary proof of citizenship (passport, REAL ID showing citizenship, birth certificate, military ID w/ birth records).
States cannot process a voter registration without that documentation. Read this again
States must build verification programs using DHS and Social Security databases.
States must audit and purge voter rolls to remove non‑citizens flagged by federal/state databases.
Photo ID required to vote, including submitting a copy for absentee ballots.
Criminal penalties for election officials who mistakenly register someone without proper documentation.
Private citizens can sue election officials for alleged failures to enforce the law.
The bill is tied to claims of widespread undocumented immigrant voting — claims courts and independent reviews have repeatedly found unproven.
As of June 2026, the Senate failed to pass the bill. Below are arguments from the supporters and non supporters for varying reasons
Folks for it(Strengthens election integrity by requiring hard proof of citizenship instead of self‑attestation.
Supporters argue this closes any theoretical loophole for non‑citizen voting.
Creates uniform national standards for federal elections, reducing variation between states.
More accurate voter rolls due to mandatory audits and database cross‑checks.
Deterrence effect — criminal penalties and lawsuits could discourage sloppy administration.Criminals dont worry about deterrence thats why they are criminals!
For the folks who dig deep into the major chances of disenfranchising millions of voters especially women with married name changes , hard to get passport and expensive and the other underlying mandates Disenfranchisement risk: Millions of eligible voters lack immediate access to required documents — especially married women (name changes), low‑income citizens, and military families who move often.
Administrative burden: States must build new verification systems, respond to federal checks, and purge rolls — all costly and complex.
Risk of wrongful purges: Database mismatches could remove legitimate voters, especially naturalized citizens.Criminalizing mistakes: Election workers could face charges for clerical errors, making staffing harder.
Private lawsuits could overwhelm local election offices with litigation.Yup beautiful government boondoggles
Underlying fraud claims not proven: READ AGAIN NOT PROVEN YOU KNOW LIKE 2020 ELECTION FRAUD Courts and investigations have not found evidence of widespread non‑citizen voting.
The SAVE Act is not a small tweak — it’s a major overhaul of how federal voter registration works.
Its benefits depend on believing undocumented voting is a significant problem; its downsides revolve around the real‑world difficulty many citizens have obtaining documents and the heavy administrative/legal load it creates.OF COURSE VOTER ID SHOULD BE MANDATORY and if you can proe in courts of LAW that overwhelming FRAUD in voting has changed the outcome of elections then you got a case.SO far you dont as proved by no evidence fraud in voting has chaged any outcomes of any elections. Just because you say it dont mean squat ,we still(so far) have courts in this fragile democracy of law we use to have"proven evidence" a means of determining what the rule is. It is on thin ice though an who knows what my 4 children 8 grandchildren and 5 great grandchildren will see. GEORGE ORWELL called balls and strikes long time ago,,don't believe what you see with you own eyes just believe what I tell you "ONLY I CAN FIX I! hows that working out? So for all the "you gotta have voter id,,NO DUH read the fine print especially if you are a married woman!

Jersey Fled said...

I don’t know what comes after the “but Trump” phase. Maybe the “bring in the Commies” phase. But it looks like Mamdani is doing his best to kill that.

bagoh20 said...

"But evidence that something could be exploited is not evidence that it was exploited..."

So why not leave you doors open and your wallet on the front porch with your car keys? It's that irresponsible, but the stakes are infinitely higher.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

“June 29, 2026 CIA intelligence report on Venezuela's Electronic Voting Manipulation Capabilities from 2004 to 2020. This report concludes the machines were specifically designed to alter elections and gained access to real-time election results with their intent to influence U.S. elections.”

Actual CIA report copies attached to TheSCIF post on X. Same thing Sidney Powell has said for years.

hombre said...

Yama, yama, yama. Thanks, Rick, but what is obvious is the likely impossibility that Joe Dementia got 80 million votes without leaving his basement. Nevertheless, Trump and company need to let it go. Their obsession give the corruptocrats too much seditious ammo.

Dude1394 said...

“ Dave Begley said...
What I don't get is how is it that we can't defend our own democracy are run fair and secure elections? Answer: Dems don't want it because if the elections were fair, they'd lose. Sen. Slotkin admitted it”


But it’s all Thunes fault. I agree thune should force a filibuster until it is passed, NO MATTER how long it takes. But he is far, far from the sole reason it has not passed. But I want to primary his arse for sure.

Eva Marie said...

@Dinky Dau
“disenfranchising millions of voters especially women with married name changes”
You wrote that. You do not believe it. This is a bad faith argument.

bagoh20 said...

Let's accept the ridiculous assertion that although the system is vulnerable , it hasn't been exploited, because nobody cares enough to try, or the world is all ethical people. Do you still want to leave the election system of the United States so vulnerable? Is it not important enough to protect at least as much as nearly every other nation of far less importance? Why is our house, the nicest one on the street, the only one with the door hanging open?

bagoh20 said...

"Trump and company need to let it go."

It's not about Trump. He's just the guy pointing at the crime scene. He will be gone in two years, and the crimes will continue. It's OUR country. He's just in it.

rehajm said...

“This story will grow to occupy most of the news space by the midterms”

Exactly right. You eye rollers thinking we’ll all soon be moving on to lefty talking points, realize this is not going away quietly…

Quaestor said...

Achilles writes, "Inga is not a good American and it is unfortunate for people who value freedom she was lucky enough to be born here."

However, Inga is the ideal National Socialist.

bagoh20 said...

In 2018 Obama gave a long speech on "saving democracy," during which he talked about Russia "hacking" elections and accused Republicans of not doing enough to secure our elections. All the major news channels covered it.

So Obama supports Trump's efforts, and I would guess the Save Act, unless he was just full of shit. In respect for Obama, I'll assume it's bipartisan.

hombre said...

It is a necessary article of faith for Corruptocrats that Biden won. You know, like open borders, maiming kids, pregnant men, DEI, global warming, abortion and communism. All good!

john mosby said...

Dispatcher: So why do you think your bank was robbed?

Trump: Because the bank up the street has more money in it than mine, and when I asked them where they got it, they showed me stacks of deposit slips with no account numbers, no signatures, and no teller timestamps.

FIFY, DD Driver. CC, JSM

Not an oldster. said...

Beware, ann.
The boosted and proud Trump fan has infiltrated your home. You guys need to watch TV together already... or tell him to stop commenting and get his own blog. (Is he taking AIPAC cash on the side to tank yours? Lol

john mosby said...

Actually DDD, I must thank you for making me think of a great analogy:

Remember how gun enthusiasts used to say “if only guns were regulated like cars,” to show how clearly different standards were being applied to equally deadly objects?

How about “if only polling places and vote-counting offices were regulated like banks?”

CC, JSM

Eva Marie said...

Jesus H Christ, lefties talk about the McCarthy hearings, Nixon ad nauseam but the 2020 elections are too long in the past to talk about? Give. Me. A. Break.

Original Mike said...

https://justthenews.com/index%2ephp/government/security/declassified-documents-show-shadow-government-action-suppress-china-threat

""I’m basically running a shadow government across the FBI at this point,” said Nikki Floris, then-deputy assistant director of the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division, in a text message declassified by Trump and reviewed by Just the News.

Floris was one of the key FBI officials who on September 25, 2020, weeks before the election, was at the forefront of the bureau’s effort to recall and suppress an Intelligence Information Report (IIR) containing information from an FBI confidential source alleging that the Chinese government was producing fake drivers’ licenses for fraudulent mail-in-votes in support of then-Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

The FBI turned over evidence of the alleged plot to Congress in June of last year."

So Congress was informed in June 2025.

"The intervention to recall the intelligence report does not appear to be an isolated incident. In the sensitive weeks after the November 2020 election, a senior analyst in the Intelligence Community admitted that the Presidential Daily Brief was being tailored to avoid mentioning election-related issues.

“We have deliberately massaged our one pending PDB to avoid any direct links to the election,” a Strategic Intelligence Analyst specializing in China, whose name has been redacted, wrote to colleagues in late November 2020.""

""We knew by April 2020 that Chinese intelligence had voter registration data from multiple states and was analyzing it with an eye toward the 2020 election," former National Intelligence Council officer Christopher Porter told Just the News in March. "But CIA blocked efforts to inform President Trump and later stopped many of these reports from being made available to Congress."

"During the Biden administration, when I raised concern about the legal requirement to share these and other reports with Congressional oversight, they changed my job to exclude me from elections and then fired me," he said.

Intelligence Community analytic ombudsman Barry Zulauf, who conducted a review of the spy community’s handling of Russian versus Chinese meddling efforts during the 2020 election, concluded that intelligence analysts downplayed China’s actions because they had disdain for the “vulgarian” Trump and did not want to support the policies and priorities of the Trump administration toward China with which they “personally disagree.”"

Our intelligence agencies are corrupt to the core.

Earnest Prole said...

I don’t see a single commenter here claiming Trump was effective last night. If he were a contestant on The Apprentice he would have been fired.

Peachy+2 said...

OT: This does not surprise me.

(recall - The D gov of Pennsylvania was fire bombed into submission.)

now this:
"
BREAKING: Rep. Adam Smith says he voted to cut off military aid to Israel because of sustained threats against his family and staff, describing a violent, relentless intimidation campaign by far-left anti-Israel activists.

Threats and fear should never dictate public policy."

or course we are told by NBC CNN ABC PBS NPR NYT etc that Leftwing terror does not exist. because Jan 6th!!!!

rubber stamp soviet media.

Peachy+2 said...

Prole - So you want him fired? Is that how this work?
Perhaps you can join the left with their non-stop efforts to impeach or assassinate.
Trump is a poor public speaker. Nothing new.
it doesn't change the facts.

hombre said...

bagoh20 said: “It's not about Trump. He's just the guy pointing at the crime scene.” As long as he does the pointing it’s all about Trump. Prevention is obstructed by Dem lies about 2020 and TDS.

bagoh20 said...

The fact that everyone is talking about this and the evidence is being exposed and argued is what effective looks like in a democracy. Trump did his job - he made it news, when the news is trying to ignore it.

bagoh20 said...

If we could just find a way to blame election fraud on white supremacy, we would have bipartisanship, if not on the cause, at least that the problem is real.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...

This is a serious question: Trump delivered a speech riddled with lies, exaggerations, and nonsense. It was promptly torpedoed by facts. What did they think would happen?

They don’t claim a single vote was changed. They don’t claim any databases were manipulated. Yet they achieved their intended effect.

Judging from the comments on Althouse, the speech supplies those who want to believe with a trove of confusing material from which to construct their preferred story.

bagoh20 said...

Who here thinks China might have a little motivation in funding the resistance to the Save Act? Maybe even paying some people in here. I get my MAGA check every month, and it's spectacular.

Original Mike said...

"This is a serious question: Trump delivered a speech riddled with lies,…"

Can you identify the lies?

Peachy+2 said...

Yep - Again - the lying liar left use lame unproven and false notions to keep their cult-like base in line.

"Voter ID is racist!" said all the Dems in union, on command.

M Jordan said...

I support Trump and know he was cheated out of the 2020 election but I can’t watch his speeches. Just too cringe-inducing for me. And too long. But I don’t care: he’s put the brakes on runaway progressivism and that’s what I voted for.

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