"... the sultry jazz music that emanated from her chambers when a uniformed police commander, a man they called her 'visitor,' disappeared into her private office. The clerks could sometimes hear the unmistakable sounds of sex from behind the door.... While the clerks said they might have been willing to overlook isolated personal foibles, they were more broadly disturbed by the lack of attention Judge Ross paid to the civil disputes that came before her.... It was not unusual to go weeks without hearing much from her except for a brief email — 'Please docket.' — a few minutes after they sent her a draft order, three clerks told The Times. They estimated that she provided edits on roughly 5 percent of the civil orders that they drafted in her name, and even then mostly just for grammar or typos...."
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"Sex, Lies and Secrets: A Federal Judge’s Trysts Go Public Now, Judge Eleanor Ross’s career and caseload are under scrutiny. And her punishment, a private reprimand, has sparked backlash" (NYT).
The Times tells us that "the décor in her chambers" included a photo of Ruth Bader Ginsburg festooned with a quote from a Beyoncé and Drake song: "All them fives need to listen when a ten is talking."
I tried to find out exactly what "sultry jazz music" the judge played. I was unsuccessful, but here's a Spotify playlist titled "Sultry Jazz":
To what extent can a judge — or anyone else — use her/his private office for activities other than the job? I assume it's fine to take a nap or do calisthenics or read a novel or stare into space.
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Isn't most music "sultry" when someone fires up your sex hormones?
This judge didn't bother to go to his chambers -- the webpage title says it all:
https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/legally-weird/judge-who-used-penis-pump-in-court-loses-his-pension/
"the unmistakable sounds of sex"
Always use a personal lubricant.
Such respect for the dignitay of the court!
“Ooohhh… daddy!”… strike that, poorly phrased…
Did she serve Courvoisier?
I'm so old I remember a time when judges were respected because they deserved respect. Of course, since we have devolved into acolytes of Gramsci, we have no reason to hold judges, or anyone else in respect, including teachers, police, parents, clergy. Everyone and everything is subject to deconstruction, to be followed in due course by destruction. That's the point, after all.
Motion: The “elites” should be held to the highest ethical standard.
Was her behavior ethical?
She’s married.
Is he?
Does her behavior reflect negatively on the judicial branch?
Does her behavior reflect negatively on her courtroom, courtroom personnel?
A “private reprimand” is wholly inadequate.
Do we insist our political and judicial officials hold to the highest ethical standards? Or do they get the elite benefit of two-tier justice?
Why don’t we respect public officials? This.
It’s not like she could have the affair at home. She might have got caught.
So he bought her a cashmere sweater....was that wrong? Should he not have done that?
"The jazz was sultry that day, my friends."
"What's that spot?"
Life is a handicap tournament where certain people are entitled to a stroke a hole…more if that’s not enough…
Motion: The “elites” should be held to the highest ethical standard.
Is there any reason at all, other than good-ol'-boy backscratching and cowardice in the face of union thuggery, that it should be harder rather than easier to fire a government employee than someone in the private sector?
I think the President has power under Article II of the constitution to fire everyone in the Federal government down to the janitor. I hope Trump tells Congress to stick the Civil Service Act up its ass and presses the issue up to the Supreme Court.
citizenship lists would inaccurately exclude Democrat voters, or so say the Democrats in court. But yah those goofy people accusing them election fraud. Eyeroll…
Hear cum the judge! Hear cum the judge!
Uniformed police commanders are notorious for generating emanations amongst the womenfolk.
What would the penalty have been were it a white male?
Obviously part of the thrill was the excitement of doing something risqué, something bad, something wrong, with the risk of being caught simply being an added level of excitement.
Except when you get caught, of course. But you can't have great orgasms and then pretend it was no big deal, when the lights come up. And if you can't accept the consequences, which were absurdly light in my view, then you are undeserving of the appointment in the first place, on the basis of maturity.
Is this woman a lawyer? I regret not hating lawyers enough…
"Was that wrong? Should I have not done that?... Because I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time."
Oh, bullshit.
…not to worry, Republicans will still be held to extraordinarily high standards, especially President Trump. At least here…by a lawyer…
Costanza got fired; he didn't receive a private reprimand. That seems appropriate for the judge as well.
The term "sultry jazz" reminds me of the saxophone music that plays on the soundtrack when a sexy dame walks into the private detective's office.
Ah yes... reminds me of Justice Hagen from Utah's Supreme Court. Well, former Justice Hagan. She resigned... after a "judicial conduct commission" investigation cleared her. Then, from an entirely different source, word got out. Seems her ex-husband, who she was married to for like 20 odd years... didn't appreciate the fact that she had been sleeping with a well known attorney. Said attorney who ALSO represented the Democrats pushing to redistrict Utah and gerrymander it in favor of Democrats... and coincidentially, Justice Hagan wrote the opinion approving that, over vociferous objections from the Utah Legislature. Hagan couldn't survive the backlash. She quit. The Chief Justice has now announced his retirement. The Utah Legislature added two new seats to the Supreme Court for a total of 7. Our governor has 4 vacancies to fill! He's filled two. The Court insisted that Hagen did nothing wrong. But... well, what a way to end a career! Sleeping with the attorney who is arguing in front of the Court?
Women! Am I right?!
Isn't most music "sultry" when someone fires up your sex hormones?
What about polkas?
Ultimately, the committee required the judge to send apology letters to the six law clerks who spoke to investigators.
The committee said the letters “should be sufficiently specific so as to make clear to the recipient the sexual misconduct for which the judge is apologizing.”
The letters she sent, dated May 27, were three sentences long and identical.
And yet she "hung an apology letter from a lawyer she had chastised for being underdressed and underprepared in court."
It's always been a bit of a mystery to me how much of a judicial opinion in federal court is written by the judge and how much by the law clerks.
Ann, you were a federal district court law clerk. What's the deal? Or are you sworn to secrecy?
This is silly pearl clutching outrage. If someone in power wants to have sex with anyone, even a minor, its their god given right. Donald J Trump rapes by the dozen AND he skates on past any consequence. Why is this even a story worth focusing on?
Ghetto mentality and behavior. Only got the job because of AA/DEI.
I want a little sugar in my bowl....
Could be worse. Her “visitor” wasn’t her underage intern, flashing his thong. And I might add, no fishing lures were found in evidence.
Federal District Court Judge is a BIG DEAL! Obtaining a clerkship requires excellent academic credentials and very strong references. What is especially galling is that this slattern expected and demanded that her "underlings" cover for her. Imagine working your ass of to get that coveted fed clerkship, and being assigned to work for her.
I note that poster "FortheloveofICE" is probably very, very fond of Muslim rape gangs and demands that every woman lay back and think of the King while they are being raped... because it's their fault for being American or British.
I didn't want to assume. I looked up who appointed her.
"Sultry" apparently involves saxophones, drum brushes, and sex in unusual places.
Judge Ross’ secret was like Victoria’s Secret …
‘ rhhardin said...
"the unmistakable sounds of sex"
Always use a personal lubricant.’
The dildo of consequence rarely arrives lubed.
Bob Boyd asked: What about polkas?
I have close relatives in Wisconsin. Polkas are sultry to them.
My cousin got married several years ago. For the father-daughter dance, they started out in the traditional fashion, but ended up doing the "Beer Barrel Polka".
It was hilarious.
“I didn't want to assume. I looked up who appointed her.”
Let me guess: his middle name rhymes with “insane.”
She made material false statements during the investigation. That should get her bounced — but it won’t because ……
“a beige office couch cushion that was tested in a lab for bodily fluid”
Like Curb Your Enthusiasm Season 6, Episode 2 - The Anonymous Donor. “I bring the ruckus to the ladies.”
“[…]the punishment [Ross] received […] sparked questions of accountability in the justice system and concerns that federal judges with lifetime appointments can misbehave with little consequence, [b]all while doling out serious sanctions to those who appear before them.[/b]”
Ya think?
Can we survive judges seeking thrills or taking risk
Imagine USSC sages as paragliders or shotguns hunting
Imagining lubricated gavel at the bench
A well-known Professional Golfer was just kicked out of a private Golf Club over allegations of sexual misconduct involving a staff member.
A candidate for Senate in the State of Maine has been accused of sexual misconduct involving several victims, he just won the Democrat primary. Doesn't sound like he's dropping out or being forced to resign.
Eric Swalwell was accused of sexual misconduct and rape by several victims; he dropped his candidacy for the Governor of California seat.
Looks like it's different strokes for different folks.
Of course the investigation of Eleanor Ross has sparked a backlash. If the moral aspect of African-American (or Black or Negro or whatever is au courant) culture is as one-dimensional as it apparently is in some quarters, specifically the Democratic Party, suspicions of her corruption could never be greeted as anything but RACIST!
"...the sultry jazz music that emanated from her chambers..."
Did it have a funky bass line?
...And her punishment, a private reprimand by a uniformed police commander, a man they called her 'visitor'...
What’s known in the law as an in camera meeting.
Even imagining her having some right to not do her job and have sex or do anything else not work-related in her office is obscene. We not only pay her salary: we pay for her offices, massive security, clerks' salaries, grand juries, jury selections, jurors' time, trials... That all belongs to us. Her work hours belong to us, and the biggest scandal here is that she didn't do her damn job, including not training her clerks, which we also pay her to do. Meanwhile, people whose lives have been destroyed by car accidents, injuries, and other civil cases are left hanging in limbo, losing their homes, unable to work or pay medical bills -- because she is busy stealing all of the resources of the court from the taxpayers. She also lied under oath about it. She should be disbarred and immediately removed. Public servants need to be reminded that they are employed by us to do their damn jobs, like everyone else. The same goes for academicians and politicians, the other people prone to presuming such entitlement.
…time to do my part and recycle, this time a joke- he wasn’t just chasing Jack Nicklaus’ record he was chasing Wilt Chamberlin’s record, too…
She got it bad, and that wasn't good.
Did it have a funky bass line?
It was Superfreak by Rick James
"Was that wrong? Should I have not done that?... Because I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time."
Never saw it once. Even close. In over 40 years in the work force.
Anyone who even imagines this might be OK needs to have their mental competence and morals examined.
Poor judgment.
“ Anyone who even imagines”…
Are we sure this judge has received due process? Let’s not rush to NYT and others’ judgement.
I say let he (or she) who has never engaged in regrettable sex such as a nooner or two cast the first fishing lure.
During and after Covid, there was an enormous backlog of cases. There still is. Desperate people with life-altering injuries were waiting years to have their day in court, while this woman dragged out their cases and treated the justice system I pay for like a brothel. Her behavior and failure to work have already been documented by the courts. They have just failed to act appropriately and remove her from office.
“treated the justice system I pay for like a brothel“
A brothel? Really? How so?
I think intimidating your inferiors, defenceless law clerks, by having loud Quiet Storm sex is pretty typical of behaving like a madam.
Clerks have no power to change the situation. I'm impressed by those who finally spoke out.
But that police superior may very well have several cases in which he was involved before her, too. The risk of favoratism opens the door to have scores of cases revistited, costing taxpayers untold money and torturing victims.
To be clear, I feel sure Althouse was a disciplined and constructive professor who modeled her behavior to her students' benefit.
But I've spent 30 years fighting the useless Atlanta DAs and some of the 11th district court's wasteful, unprofessional behavior. I'm an expert here, in more ways than I should say. There are good and terrible people in that system, probably more terrible than you can even imagine.
Based on the fact that she wasn't disbarred, it shows that one rotten apple can spoil the bunch.
The sex matters, but moreso the failure to do her job credibly, which has harmed many citizens' lives.
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