From the transcript, which blends the voices of the 4 interlocutors: "It's so sad that rock is dead.... We were talking about that. Yeah, it's all queefy now. When was the last time.... Where's the new rock bands? The new Zeppelin... It used to be the biggest part of music. Rolling Stones, AC/DC.... It used to be the biggest part of music was rock and roll. What the fuck? That's kind of crazy.... What happened to rock? What happened to rock? Who are the biggest? They said garage bands are coming back with kids, which kind of means nature is healing. Yeah, that's a good sign.Yeah, kids are tired of playing video games. Want something real. But the thing about that that doesn't make sense about rock music is everybody still loves it, right? Everybody still plays covers. Oasis is doing giant arenas all over the place. I took acid at that Oasis concert...."
And that last line changes the topic. Too bad! I wanted to hear more about the return of garage bands and why that's a sign of health, but then I understand the argument. I just wanted to spend more time on it and on Joe Rogan, it seems they take every opportunity to get back onto drugs.
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Sex and drugs and rock&roll
Rock & Roll entered its corporate middle age circa 1975 (late Led Zeppelin). That's when the industry refused to play punk rock (Sex Pistols, Clash), and thereby forced garage bands onto college radio. Then parallel streams formed (e.g., Hair Metal vs. Hardcore Punk and Alternative).
Today the main issue is competition with the back catalog. Once the (1) innovators, (2) anti-mainstream bands, and (3) pop cover versions are all available, there's little room to create or breathe.
Games were new and more creative than anything else for a generation, but are now routine and derivative. What's old is new, and what's forgotten will always be reinvented. Welcome to the next trip round the circle.
True. But I live in Gainesville where live music is everywhere. Home of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Bo Didley and founding Eagle guitarists Leadon and Felder and Steven Stills.
Saw two young fun garage bands last Saturday at Swamp Head Brewery’s outdoor stage. There’s always live music at The Bull downtown.
“Protect Our Parks” is always a fun listen!
My musical tastes are a bit divergent, so I don’t really miss the big rock bands.
Queefy Zeppelin would be a great name for a cover band. Or Captain Queefheart!
More seriously, Greta van Fleet are a great garage band. So are Wet Leg, who I first saw a couple weeks ago on SNL UK. CC, JSM
I lived in the best era ever for music, just phenomenal. I wish new generations could have that. Rock was an artistic invention that affected nearly everything else in the culture. We need a new invention like that. We have the internet, and I guess that's one, but it just doesn't seem as fun, and it tends to separate rather than bring us together. I also lived in the era of the automobile, another great and incredibly influential invention that took fun and adventure to a whole new level. I still enjoy all these, even as they seem to be fading for younger people. Rock n' Roll and cars (trucks), have defined my time, and grudgingly so has the internet.
"Queefy"? In the name of all that is holy, don't look that word up.
AI says:
Yes, garage bands are making a resurgence, driven by Gen Z nostalgia for '90s grunge and Y2K-era rock, fostering a renewed DIY music scene.
So, it's likely to be a fringe or niche phenomenon, more 1990s than 1960s or 1970s.
Bag, radio helped rock become a common language. Even college radio or Pacifica had enough listenership to at least create a counterculture.
Narrowcasting on the web has a lot of advantages, but creating a common culture isn’t one of them. CC, JSM
@john mosby --
There's all kinds of great music coming out in every genre today. The challenge is to find it. I've sorted through the new album releases on Metacritic, but finding bands is all on you. Demo and save or demo and dump.
There are some great niche bands from the last 10 years, but yes, the 1980s college/alt rock culture was vastly larger.
I'd call Greta Van Fleet a Led Zep continuation band (but good), and Wet Leg "quirky alt pop." Wolf Alice was 2015-2017 garage rock (first 2 albums), and effectively reinvented The Pixies without knowing any history.
There was a time -- the early 2000s -- when it seemed as if video games and playing rock music were coming together. But the main problem with games like Rock Band and Guitar Hero is that they used simple controllers, and didn't actually teach kids how to play guitar. (There was a real guitar-instruction game, called Rocksmith, but it was apparently difficult to use.)
Garage bands here tend toward the Jam Band style (Fish, The Dead) and the musicians here are good.
South Park had it covered. (So to speak)
Rogan is much better at interviewing, because he's learning as he goes. When it's him and his bros bullshitting its really boring.
The weirdest thing about Rogan is he claims to be "Into fitness" and body building, yet smokes MJ on his show and constantly uptalks "The new drugs". Imagine someone touting vodka and cigarettes while blathering about "Whats good for your body".
Anyway, its nice that the youth of america is getting back to Rock'n'Roll. It'll keep 'em off the streets.
BTW, I'm so proud to have been in a generation that made such great music in the late 60s and and 1970s, even though I had zero to do with making any of it. I look down on younger people.
I took acid at that Oasis concert....
Liam, is that you?
Kids in their 20's today grew up playing Guitar Hero and Rock Band, which were loaded up with 70's and 80's rock tunes. It sort of became the music of their youth, maybe that is driving this alleged resurgence?
Rick Beato has some interesting thoughts today on why the charts are dominated by rich, connected youngsters.
In addition to @Narr's suggestion about today's Rick Beato video on why the charts are dominated by rich, connected youngsters, Beato had a short video around a year ago that discussed the dramatic change in today's charts versus the charts 20+ years ago. Basically, 20+ years ago, there were lots of bands on the charts, but today, the charts are dominated by individual singers.
- Why Are Bands Mysteriously Disappearing?
- Why Only Rich Kids Make It In Music Today
Enigma: Yes, Wolf Alice were also on SNL UK. I liked them. CC, JSM
Rock N roll became rock, and rock has now merged with country, a once unlikely move, but it makes sense now — just add some twang, voice and geetar, and everyone is happy
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