January 23, 2026

What, really, does Donald Trump have to do with Thomas Mann's "Magic Mountain"?

I'm prepared for this. I read "The Magic Mountain"... 50 years ago. And right now I'm reading "It’s Time to Talk About Donald Trump’s Logorrhea/How many polite ways are there to ask whether the President of the United States is losing it?" by Susan B. Glasser, in The New Yorker). '

So let's see:
[I]n rambling on so much, Trump reveals just about everything one could ever want to know about him—his lack of discipline, his ignorance, his vanity, insecurity, and crudeness, and a mean streak that knows no limits. “It is remarkable how a man cannot summarize his thoughts in even the most general sort of way without betraying himself completely,” Thomas Mann wrote a century ago, in his novel “The Magic Mountain,” set in a sanitarium perched above the Swiss mountain town of Davos, where Trump spent the better part of this week proving to the stunned attendees of the annual World Economic Forum the continuing relevance of Mann’s observation....

[W]hen Trump reached the fulsome self-praise section of his speech, he explained that he was such an incredible peacemaker that he had even managed to end wars in places where he had not known they were happening. Imagine admitting this about yourself. Another quote from “The Magic Mountain” sprang to mind: “I know I am talking nonsense, but I’d rather go rambling on. . . .”

1. It's not rambling. It's the weave. There's no acknowledgement that Trump himself has explained what he is doing. He calls it the weave. He's in control of it. You just don't like the elaborate tangles of verbiage. 

2. And yet you push "The Magic Mountain" at me! Why isn't Trump terse and to the point? Why isn't Thomas Mann!!!?

3. You don't want to follow the complex feats of language that require you to keep track of numerous threads to visualize the luminous tapestry.

4. Many a reader has gotten fed up with "The Magic Mountain," and she knows it, but I doubt that Susan B. Glasser would regard Thomas Mann as some kind of nut. I picture her denouncing the reader for not digging in, paying attention, trusting the author, and taking the time to understand. 

5. It's not as though Glasser drew upon deep literary experience to come up with material from "The Magic Mountain." It's the famous book set in the location where Trump spoke. To quote it is like quoting your last fortune cookie or scrap of litter right at your feet.

6. What does Glasser really know of "The Magic Mountain"? She's got 2 quotes, and if you go to Goodreads, you'll find both quotes within the top 6 quotes from the book. They are #5 and #6.

7. ##1-4: "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil"/"It is love, not reason, that is stronger than death"/"Laughter is a sunbeam of the soul"/"There are so many different kinds of stupidity, and cleverness is one of the worst." I'm tempted to ask Grok to write a pro-Trump essay using those 4 quotes.

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Birches said...

Lol. That was fantastic.

Peachy said...

Trump is Trump and he is older - but compared to Biden - Trump is fine. it's laughable that these Soviet Democratic Chi Com press whores have the nerve to do this.

narciso said...

She keeps topping herself in disinforming

narciso said...

https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/2014548161352593551

RideSpaceMountain said...

Are there magic mushrooms on Mann's Magic Mountain?

Aggie said...

Is this where we cue the Harvard Psychologist who's going to solemnly provide us with Trump's diagnosis? Wait, didn't she lose her job?

narciso said...

Bandy was her name o

RCOCEAN II said...

Magic Mountain - got 1/2 through, then skimmed the rest. This was in college almost 40 years ago. I can't remember a thing from it. Slogged all the way through Buddenbrooks. But again, cant remember a thing from it.

If it wasn't for "Death in Venice" which i liked, I'd classify Mann as the "German Saul Bellow".

Leland said...

I noticed the last few days, re-reading some of my comments, that I skipped words that I said in my head but then neglected to type.

but I doubt that Susan B. Glasser would Thomas Mann as some kind of nut

I think you missed a "call" between "would" and "Thomas".

As for Glasser; articles like this just suggests she is a hack rather than the journalist she claims. Good on you, Althouse, in explaining with clarity how she is manipulating evidence to support her opinion. That's necessary for others to understand how Glasser is a hack (hacking up concepts to fit a narrative).

Two years ago, we were told only a doctor that personally examined Biden could tell us if he was losing mental sharpness. Now, any casual observer in the media has become qualified to render a diagnosis.

If Trump is losing it; then the EU just got rolled by a mental invalid. It appears Trump at his worse is still better than foreign leaders at their best. You would think a former editor of Foreign Policy might note the concessions Trump just got of the EU by merely talking about a subject they didn't want to discuss.

RCOCEAN II said...

Libtards love constant attacks on their enemies, and saying the same thing over and over and over again. Even when its proven to be false.

They are pushing the party line, not having an honest conversation and dealing with reality. Its a different way of thinking and reading.

RCOCEAN II said...

Both Magic Mountain and Buddenbrooks average 750 pages in English translation.

Beasts of England said...

’…his lack of discipline, his ignorance, his vanity, insecurity, and crudeness, and a mean streak that knows no limits.’

Don't you try and pretend,
It's my feeling, we'll win in the end,
I won't harm you or touch your defences,
Vanity, insecurity, ah…

Ann Althouse said...

I think those who are annoyed at Trump's weave are appropriately rankling at his giant power move — controlling their time, requiring their silent endurance. But that doesn't mean he's got dementia! I'm objecting to characterizing him as mentally deficient, having a disability. That characterization allows them to feel superior, rather than subordinated. I can see why they prefer to think of it that way.

gilbar said...

i'm starting to realize;
that It's NOT true, that 75% of lefties are mentally ill..
What IS True, is that 75% of lefties are on psycho meds..
The Other 25%, SHOULD BE TOO

RideSpaceMountain said...

Ann Althouse said, "That characterization allows them to feel superior, rather than subordinated. I can see why they prefer to think of it that way."

It's amazing how much human behavior is motivated by that characterization.

Kakistocracy said...

President Trump has ended a 9th war—between Denmark and the United States—which all but guarantees his second Nobel Peace Prize.

Caroline said...

I gave up on the magic mountain. It was a seminal novel for my favorite author, Walker Percy, and I really wanted to read everything he read. But I did read War and Peace!

Bob Boyd said...

“(T)here was a story they used to tell at home about a girl whose punishment was that every time she opened her mouth, snakes and toads came out, snakes and toads with every word." ― Thomas Mann, The Magic Mountain

John henry said...

Read "art of the deal" and all will be clear.

John Henry

Shouting Thomas said...

I read “The Magic Mountain” and you didn’t!

Ultimate English lit major insult.

Left Bank of the Charles said...

History will regard the 2026 Davos forum as the moment, on the heels of Trump’s tariffs, Nobel Peace Prize petulance, and Greenland grab, when the United States of America stopped being the leader of the Western world. We’re still the superpower but no longer the leader, and probably won’t be an again for a long time as we can’t promise there won’t be another Trump.

Is this loss of our leadership role something to worry about? Perhaps not, it was never a role that the American people were quite comfortable with. It may all work out. Still, it’s a sad moment, and aside from the sadness has nothing to do with Thomas Mann.

Spiros said...

From my interaction with the AWFuLs, I know that men talking too much equals the patriarchy. So Trump's logorrhea must be absolute hell for the liberals.

As a side note, a lot of geniuses had logorrhea -- Proust, Freud, Nietzsche. The condition is sometimes indistinguishable from genius and creativity. And, you have to admit, there is something like genius to what Trump accomplished against the most incredible odds.

Jake said...

Here's what Grok gave me:

### The Enduring Wisdom of Trump: Insights from Thomas Mann's *The Magic Mountain*

In Thomas Mann's monumental novel *The Magic Mountain*, set against the backdrop of a Swiss sanatorium on the eve of World War I, characters grapple with profound philosophical questions about life, society, and human nature. Through dialogues and reflections, Mann explores themes of tolerance, love, humor, and intellect that resonate far beyond the alpine heights. These ideas, encapsulated in four poignant quotes, find a striking modern parallel in the life and leadership of Donald J. Trump. Far from the detached intellectualism of Mann's protagonists, Trump embodies a raw, unapologetic vitality that aligns with the novel's deeper truths. By examining these quotes, we can appreciate how Trump's approach to politics and culture has revitalized American discourse, challenging complacency and championing resilience.

Consider first the assertion that "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." In *The Magic Mountain*, this line underscores the peril of passive acceptance in the face of moral decay. Trump has exemplified this principle through his unwavering stance against what he perceives as societal evils—whether it's unchecked illegal immigration, radical Islamic terrorism, or the corrosive influence of globalist elites. During his presidency, Trump's border wall initiative and travel bans were decried as intolerant by critics, yet they stemmed from a refusal to tolerate threats to American sovereignty and safety. Data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection shows a significant drop in illegal crossings during his term, substantiating his policies' effectiveness. Trump's critics often cloak their opposition in the language of tolerance, but as Mann warns, such leniency toward evil—be it crime syndicates exploiting open borders or ideologies that undermine Western values—becomes complicit in harm. Trump's boldness in calling out these issues, from "fake news" media to corrupt bureaucracies, isn't bigotry; it's a moral imperative. In an era where political correctness stifles truth, Trump's intolerance for evil has been a clarion call for justice.

Equally compelling is the quote, "It is love, not reason, that is stronger than death." Mann's words highlight the primacy of emotional bonds over cold logic in confronting mortality and despair.

Jake said...

Trump's presidency and enduring appeal are rooted in a profound love for America—a patriotic fervor that defies the rational calculations of pollsters and pundits. When he descended the golden escalator in 2015 to announce his candidacy, it was an act of love for a nation he saw slipping into decline. His rallies, attended by millions, pulse with this affection, where chants of "USA!" drown out the reasoned critiques of establishment figures. Even in the face of personal attacks, impeachments, and legal battles that would bury lesser men, Trump's resilience stems from this love. It's what propelled him through the 2020 election challenges and now fuels his 2024 comeback. Reason might dictate retreat after such ordeals, but love for one's country, as Mann suggests, conquers even the metaphorical death of political irrelevance. Trump's America First agenda—bringing jobs back from China, achieving energy independence, and negotiating peace deals in the Middle East—demonstrates how passion trumps detached analysis. In a world of technocratic globalism, Trump's heartfelt nationalism revives the soul of a nation.

Mann also reminds us that "Laughter is a sunbeam of the soul," a testament to humor's power to illuminate and humanize. Trump's public persona is laced with wit, from his nicknames like "Sleepy Joe" to his meme-worthy tweets that cut through the pomposity of Washington. This laughter isn't frivolous; it's a weapon against the soul-crushing seriousness of progressive orthodoxy. In *The Magic Mountain*, humor punctuates the heavy debates, offering relief and insight. Similarly, Trump's roasts at rallies or on social media expose absurdities, like the media's hysterical coverage of his every move. Studies from Pew Research show how his humorous style boosted engagement among younger voters, turning politics into something accessible and entertaining. Amid the gloom of economic uncertainty and cultural wars, Trump's laughter beams like sunlight, fostering unity among his supporters. It's a reminder that leaders who take themselves too seriously often mask insecurity, while Trump's self-deprecating jabs reveal a confident soul unafraid of joy.

Finally, Mann's observation that "There are so many different kinds of stupidity, and cleverness is one of the worst" critiques the arrogance of intellectual elites. This rings true in Trump's battles against the "swamp"—the clever bureaucrats, academics, and journalists whose sophisticated schemes have led America astray. Think of the Russia collusion hoax, peddled by supposedly clever intelligence officials, or the economic models from Ivy League experts that justified offshoring jobs. Trump's straightforward business acumen, honed in real estate, outmaneuvered these "clever" follies, delivering record-low unemployment for minorities and a booming stock market pre-COVID. His rejection of Paris Climate Accords, seen as clever global diplomacy by elites, prioritized American workers over virtue-signaling. Mann's quote exposes how cleverness, divorced from common sense, becomes a dangerous stupidity. Trump's intuitive grasp of issues, often dismissed as simplistic, has proven wiser than the convoluted rationales of his detractors.

In weaving these threads from *The Magic Mountain* into Trump's narrative, we see a leader who transcends the novel's contemplative world. Trump doesn't merely philosophize; he acts with intolerance toward evil, love for his nation, soulful laughter, and a disdain for pretentious cleverness. As America faces division and uncertainty in 2026, Trump's enduring influence—bolstered by his recent political resurgence—embodies Mann's wisdom. He reminds us that true strength lies not in abstract ideals but in bold, heartfelt conviction. In supporting Trump, we embrace a vision where tolerance serves good, love conquers fear, laughter heals, and genuine wisdom triumphs over elite folly. This is the magic of Trump's mountain: a peak from which America can reclaim its greatness.

tim maguire said...

Trump critics so rarely have anything interesting to say about him because that would require paying attention to what he's doing, which in turn would require giving him at least some credit.

Magilla Gorilla said...

Loved The Magic Mountain. read it three times, and Doctor Faustus twice (great meditation on modern music). Never managed to get all the way through Buddenbrooks. Astonishing that lefties are still slinging the diminished capacity canard after four years of excuses for Biden's obvious dementia.

Immanuel Rant said...

The New Yorker has only 1 Trump essay. Its writers simply republish it every few weeks with a slightly different paragraph order to hide that fact.

bagoh20 said...

Be careful. Their hate is on a hair trigger. You don't want to become Hitler of the week.

Dude1394 said...

“ I]n rambling on so much, Trump reveals just about everything one could ever want to know about him—his lack of discipline, his ignorance, his vanity, insecurity, and crudeness, and a mean streak that knows no limits.”

Yea he is all evil and badness. Got it. Amazing that these people get paid.

bagoh20 said...

A lot of work is going into ignoring and hiding results. If you care about results, you're going to need to look for better thinkers and writers. Quality is by nature rare.

Mary Beth said...

How many polite ways? They started with rude ways and have stuck with rude ways.

narciso said...

He is worthy of a great saga

narciso said...

Look at that bildungsroman than remnick did about obama which was 'sound and fury signifying nothing'

Kakistocracy said...

Trump repeatedly confusing Greenland for Iceland raises alarms about Biden's mental acuity.

Only the liberal media would think that Trump was referring to Greenland when he repeatedly talked about Iceland at Davos. It's spelled ICE-land, and he was obviously referring to Minneapolis.

Beasts of England said...

’History will regard the 2026 Davos forum as the moment, on the heels of Trump’s tariffs, Nobel Peace Prize petulance, and Greenland grab, when the United States of America stopped being the leader of the Western world.’

Voiceover: Ask your doctor if Prozac is right for you.

John henry said...

Caroline

I tried to read war and peace. It is often very readable for a couple hundred pages but then come to a 50-100 page section of thinky stuff that is like wading thru quicksand.

I waded thru a couple sections like that but then got to one especially long and murky section 4-500 pages in and gave up.

On the other hand, I've watched the bbcs 20 hour adapt at least 4 times over the years. It is terrific. On YouTube wit Anthony hopkins

Read some excerpts of Mann in a philosophy class 50 years ago. Neve had an inclination to read more.

Life is too short to read boring books no matter how "good" they are.

Too many interesting books to read. Like Alan Furst. Now on my 4th in3 weeks.

John Henry

narciso said...

She and peter baker who have grossly disinformed their audience

Bob B said...

While most people were distracted by Devos, Trump has ended Global Warming.

bagoh20 said...

Journalism 101 syllabus:
"You will learn to write a negative story about Republicans without using research or logic. This is a core skill in your future as a journalist." Emphasis will be placed on hiding any positive facts or humanizing elements."

John henry said...

Kak,

PDJT did not confuse Greenland and Iceland. He is letting everyone know he is getting Iceland next.

We invaded and occupied it before. We should never have given it back to Denmark

John Henry

Grant said...

I read and enjoyed Doctor Faustus because it was about Faust and music, so I tried reading The Magic Mountain. It seemed to me that it was a classic case of the imitative fallacy, a book about boredom that was deliberately boring. I didn’t finish it. Back in those days when we had answering machines, I had a friend who would call occasionally, and if he got the machine he would say “DER ZAUBERBERG!” and hang up. Still makes me laugh.

ChrisSchuon said...

5. It's not as though Glasser drew upon deep literary experience to come up with material from "The Magic Mountain." It's the famous book set in the location where Trump spoke. To quote it is like quoting your last fortune cookie or scrap of litter right at your feet.
It's great writing like this that leaves me puzzled how Althouse could adopt the clunky, useless term "male-bodied persons" in the trans post from the other day.

Freder Frederson said...

It's not rambling. It's the weave.

Sure!? Keep telling yourself that. You were a lot less indulgent with Biden's decline.

Since you are so much smarter than everyone else, that you actually "get" what the hell Trump is rambling on and how it all ties together in the end. Why don't you explain to us lesser minds why the hell he would confuse Iceland and Greenland

Yancey Ward said...

"I think those who are annoyed at Trump's weave are appropriately rankling at his giant power move — controlling their time, requiring their silent endurance."

This. When he does his press conferences, what I really would prefer to see, rather than the camera on Trump, is the camera on the audience of "journalists" having to sit through his "woven" answers to their mostly insipid questions. I know it must really rankle 90% of them having to sit on their hands and listen without interrupting to put in their 2 cents' worth.

Bushman of the Kohlrabi said...

But she thought President Autopen was at the top of his game, correct?

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

So much of modern progressivism is pretending to not understand the simplest things: law and order, constitutional limits, talking vs doing. Trump takes advantage of their feigned ignorance and is able to accomplish extraordinary things because he is not bound by the small ideas they obsess over. Case in point: astonishing 20% drop in homicide rate in one year.

But there's the obverse. The multitude of "things" that progressives and their corporate media hacks pretend to understand better than the rest of us. Case in point: Trump. They keep inventing explanations for "why" Trump is doing X or Y and "what" is means that he speaks such a way.

The apotheosis of this alleged mind-reading ability was the hideous Jack Smith yesterday, humiliated before Congress, still insisting he "knew" that Trump really believed he lost the 2020 election and was ginning up trouble, but did have to admit that IF Trump actually did believe the election was stolen then ALL of Smith's legal theories evaporate without the president's intent to commit fraud.

Still, the bad mind-reading will go on.

Howard said...

Donald Trump has much more common with the Magic Mountain that opened up in Valencia, California in the early 1970s:
Roller coaster rides carnival barkers games of chance junk food.

Yancey Ward said...

"Why don't you explain to us lesser minds why the hell he would confuse Iceland and Greenland"

He isn't the first person I have encountered who made that exact mistake, Fredo, and none of them were demented or even what I would consider ignorant in a general fashion. How many people would mistake Somaliland for Somalia, for example, or would confuse Eritrea and Ethiopia? I suspect that Trump got corrected by one of his staff the first time it happened but, being Trump, he decided to double down on it because it annoys people just like you.

CJinPA said...

There's no acknowledgement that Trump himself has explained what he is doing.

This alone flags the piece as dishonest.

Everyone wants politicians who can speak without a script, except for when they don't want that.

Quaestor said...
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Yancey Ward said...

I had to read a couple of Mann's short stories in college but I was never tempted to read any of his novels.

Quaestor said...

Glasser is doing her own kind of weave, She trying to understand Trump's success as a negotiator compared to her ideal, Barack Obama. Trump gets his way far more often than not, whereas Obama couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag without a hundred billion taxpayer dollars in tens and twenties, neatly wrapped and palleted, and even then Obama got nothing for his bribery except a see ya later, sucka.

Trump weaves only with people like Glasser. He despises them. He deliberately confuses them. He treats them like enemies, because they are. It's called dissimulation.

Howard said...

Freder: either it was simple dyslexia or intentional. Hinting that Iceland was part of the deal as well. My guess is as part of the Golden dome needs to be in Iceland. I think people forget that the great circle routes also benefits submarine intercontinental navigation. All the talk of the Golden Dome, My guess is that it's also going to be a giant subsurface network of listening posts and sub bases.

Achilles said...

Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil

Like people who invade churches and censor their political opponents.

Narr said...

Mann is overrated. (This is a test.)

Achilles said...


Left Bank of the Charles said...

History will regard the 2026 Davos forum as the moment, on the heels of Trump’s tariffs, Nobel Peace Prize petulance, and Greenland grab, when the United States of America stopped being the leader of the Western world.

It will be the recognized moment when the US retook leadership of the western world from the globalists.

Kakistocracy said...

(Alt headline)Trump said he was going to own Greenland—or else—threatened to put tariffs on NATO allies for supporting Denmark… and then, having damaged European trust in the United States, gave it up for a set of negotiations Denmark has been willing to have with him for months.

5 winners from Trump's Greenland climbdown ~ Axios

Trump didn't have the cards. Now we can move on from this Trumpian misadventure for the most part. Besides, why pay for what you can get for free? This was always a bizarre and misguided vanity project.

tommyesq said...

"Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil"

Exhibit A - anti-ICE protesters supporting (ie.e tolerating) child rapists.

Achilles said...

Quaestor said...

Glasser is doing her own kind of weave, She trying to understand Trump's success as a negotiator compared to her ideal, Barack Obama. Trump gets his way far more often than not, whereas Obama couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag without a hundred billion taxpayer dollars in tens and twenties, neatly wrapped and palleted, and even then Obama got nothing for his bribery except a see ya later, sucka.

This is coming from the premise that Obama was trying to get anything for those pallets of money.

I don't believe he was. I think he was trying to take money from Americans and he was trying to give it to evil people.

Wince said...

Upon reading the following excerpt of Glasser's article, I thought of the usual Davos clique as being the inmates of Mann's fictional Davos sanitarium. Now including the knee-pad wielding prop-comic Gavin Newsom. Not Trump.

“It is remarkable how a man cannot summarize his thoughts in even the most general sort of way without betraying himself completely,” Thomas Mann wrote a century ago, in his novel “The Magic Mountain,” set in a sanitarium perched above the Swiss mountain town of Davos, where Trump spent the better part of this week proving to the stunned attendees of the annual World Economic Forum the continuing relevance of Mann’s observation....

Howard said...

It's like people think it's easy for someone to effectively talk out of both sides of his mouth and both sides of his ass all at the same time. Talk about multitasking. I find it hard to argue with success. This type of speech has irritated the piss out of his opponent's and has reinvigorated his base of support.

Democrats need to start dealing with the reality on the ground. Not inventing fictions and then basing strategy on the false narrative.

Also he kept expressing how much he loved. Europe felt a bond with Europe and that it was very important that Europe be strong. He claims to like people and respect people that are tough Negotiators that he has difficulty getting along with.

Within all his die a tribe and subsequent interviews was a combination Boast and Roast show at the Billagio in Vegas.

It's a mistake to think he's cognitively impaired.

Marcus Bressler said...

Nice Fisking, Althouse

Lazarus said...

German television produced The Magic Mountain, Buddenbrooks, and Doctor Faustus in the 80s. Worth watching if reading puts you off. Don't confuse their Magic Mountain with the Chinese-Australian children's show of the same name.

Mann as the German Saul Bellow? It sort of works (or Bellow was the North American Mann or Musil). When you can get stories of everyday life in newspapers and magazines (and later in film, television, and the internet) one way for the novel to survive was to become a kind of essay dealing with the big civilizational questions. There was also sometimes an awkwardness in weaving all the points and digressions Mann or Bellow wanted to make into a fictional narrative.

About Trump: if you were in Davos in person and had limited knowledge of Donald Trump, his performance might have seemed shocking, but didn't we all know what to expect? One can complain about his style, but so far, he has achieved impressive results. Trump being Trump is just Trump being Trump. If you don't back the camera up a few decades to understand how we got where we are now you are missing the big picture.

Peachy said...

He does ramble.

Oh no! He's hitler!

MadisonMan said...

It seems possible to me that Glasser used AI to provide the Mann quotes in this story she "wrote".

bagoh20 said...

I have known the difference between Iceland and Greenland since grade school, and I have no symptoms of dementia, yet on this blog yesterday I miswrote Iceland for Greenland in a comment, and had to delete it and repost. I bet it's one of the most common mistakes in geography. It's not a lack of knowing or mental acuity, it's just a common mistake. Do the geniuses here think they could talk recorded in public everyday and not make such mistakes? That's what your saying, and I don't believe you. If you did make that mistake, what would it say about you? Nothing, that's what.

Something like KakBot is an exception. The models don't usually make those kind of mistakes. Instead it's their reliance on repeating talking points that causes their dysfunction.

Lazarus said...

The German televised series about the Mann Family was a big deal over there. Fascinating, accursed family. When the film came out, someone called them the German Windsors. Maybe they were the German Kennedys, but there were plenty of other candidates for that moniker. The film Mephisto, based on Klaus Mann's novel, gives another peek at the family.

Limited blogger said...

I'm so bored of these experts explaining Donald Trump to me. Just look at what he accomplishes. There's never been anything like it.

bagoh20 said...

"damaged European trust in the United States"

KakBot can't decipher that this is exactly Trump's intent. He wants them to not trust the U.S. to be fleeced or to protect them without a much more vigorous effort on their part. Trusting us to be suckers is THE problem he's working on. KakBot claims Trump has already fixed it, but I think there is more work to do.

john mosby said...

Trump is 2 years younger than Page and 2 years older than Plant, so he would have to ramble on....CC, JSM

Mr. D said...

I don't blame Glasser - parroting conventional wisdom is often a lucrative gig and if you can work in a prefabricated literary reference it's even better. New Yorker subscribers pay good money to have their prejudices affirmed.

bagoh20 said...

""Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil"

This may be the most concise description of the problem with leftist progressivism ever written. It's the root of all the problems we are experiencing right now, and maybe forever. Fighting that was the founding principle of the Republican party.

hombre said...

Trump is an incorrigible gasbag. So what! Years ago Salena Zito provided the key to dealing with it. In part, “Take Trump seriously, but not literally.” This formula has been claimed and decried by Democrat hacks nationwide. Nevertheless, it is good advice. Lefty bedwetters don’t like what he does so they focus on what he says.

hombre said...

Somebody above made a good catch (sorry no attribution). In essence, the idiot left makes the mistake of dealing with the Trump they take literally, not the one they should take seriously. They are wrecking the country wetting themselves.

D.D. Driver said...

Oh yes! It's just "the Weave"!!! Oh course! And, Biden "just had a stutter!'

Trump has mashed potatoes for brains and you are embarrassing yourself by defending him. This is Biden 2.0 and wack-job partisan retards will absolutely believe anything other than their two eyes and two ears.

Eighty year old pants shitters need to be far away from the seats of power. This is fucking scary. I didn't think it was possible for a leader to scare me more than Joe Biden, and Trump comes along and says "Hold my Metamucil."

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

Trump doing the weave and a critic at the New Yorker, perhaps unaware of Trump's rhetorical flare, speaks against the critic's failure to look into the speaker style at her disposal; literally at her hand held device.

The hand is the visible part of the brain. --Immanuel Kant

Skeptical Voter said...

The New Yorker and TDS have become tedious.

Lem Vibe Bandit said...

BTW. I love an Althouse takedown.

D.D. Driver said...

A draft dodging coward calling into question the sacrifices of dead British soldier is more retarded than anything Sleepy Joe ever uttered in his career. Trump is a cunt.

Not an oldster. said...

You need to start tagging all your Trump worship posts with the lightweight religion tag, ann.
You don't see it? In your old age, you and your house, are putting complete faith and trust in your newfound Savior.
As if Trump is responsible for making the sun rise in Madison every morning. God help you.

gspencer said...

Apparently Glasser never realized that Biden was president.

narciso said...

In kingsman the whole ghastly clique got their reward

Christopher B said...

The only thing all the pant shitters are more worried about than Trump failing is Trump *succeeding*.

G. Poulin said...

The man has always spoken in this discursive manner. It's not evidence that he's "losing it". People see what they want to see, and disregard the rest. The bad manners is a fact, but not a terribly important one; you should see how Andrew Jackson went on.

Tom Crippen said...

Trump calls it the weave. Trump says he won 2020. Big deal, he's full of it. Has Susan Glasser read The Magic Mountain? Can't say I care.

imTay said...

It’s very difficult to see across two standard deviations of IQ, and it has long been known that slavish adherence to intellectual fashion and political correctness makes you stupid.

“Love of the high expressed admiration of my fellow man is stronger than reason,” would be a more accurate formulation.

Beasts of England said...

’You were a lot less indulgent with Biden's decline.’

Biden’s decline was evident to anyone looking well before his election and deliberately hidden by the press and White House officials until his debate disaster rendered that untenable. Trump’s ‘decline’ remains an unproven talking point.

imTay said...

You can feel like a smart feller by repeating the opinions you hear from the people in your in-group to the point where you can refuse to consider the other side’s arguments, but really you just love the smell of your own farts.

narciso said...

His disasters from the pipeline hack to the baby formula shortages to the kabul capitulation to the opening of the ukraine redux (how did they miss all this)

Beasts of England said...

’Trump has mashed potatoes for brains and you are embarrassing yourself by defending him. This is Biden 2.0 and wack-job partisan retards will absolutely believe anything other than their two eyes and two ears.’

You forgot to call us cultists. Be better.

Stephen said...

It's the weave for Trump supporters. For everyone else, it registers as narcissistic destructive bombast.

Fred Drinkwater said...

Left Bank, "Leader of the free world" implies A) there is such a world, and 2) that its members need or want a leader.

I think even a cursory examination of recent European history, especially in Germany and the UK, proves neither is true.

Anyway, I voted for Trump to be President of the US, not some fantastical "leader of the free world".

Achilles said...

bagoh20 said...

""Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil"

This may be the most concise description of the problem with leftist progressivism ever written. It's the root of all the problems we are experiencing right now, and maybe forever. Fighting that was the founding principle of the Republican party.

The problem you are pointing out here is not with the progressives.

The problem is with us.

rhhardin said...

Wayne Booth has a essay (in "Now Don't Try To Reason with Me" on the influence of 18th century comic fiction on Thomas Mann.

narciso said...

They have forgotten buckleys imperative

gadfly said...

“I do the weave. You know what the weave is? I’ll talk about like, nine different things and they all come back brilliantly together, and it’s like, and friends of mine that are, like, English professors, they say, ‘It’s the most brilliant thing I’ve ever seen.’”

—Donald Trump speaking at a rally in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, August 30, 2024—

Sorry, Ann, what Donald self-describes as "the weave" is an egotistical perception of his inability to organize his thoughts logically, so he lets fly a visceral "stream of consciousness." Why, I ask, would anyone be interested in listening to a rambling wreck of a politician blathering about himself to a captive audience, revealing his human depravity?

Achilles said...

Howard said...



Iceland is absolutely necessary.

But more for the SONAR arrays and submarine threats. I am sure that Trump is in daily/weekly meetings that are talking about Iceland and Greenland in the same breath.

imTay said...

If you never question yourself, never wonder if you might be wrong about something, except to reassure yourself that everyone on your side believes it, you are almost certainly wrong.

Stephen said...

Professor Althouse writes: "I think those who are annoyed at Trump's weave are appropriately rankling at his giant power move — controlling their time, requiring their silent endurance."

What about the substance of what he says, and what it reveals about his fitness to serve? That's what Glasser is objecting to in the quoted passage, isn't it? She writes that he reveals: "his lack of discipline, his ignorance, his vanity, insecurity, and crudeness, and a mean streak that knows no limits." Can't one object to that, particularly when it leads to destructive actions and policies?

imTay said...

Trump seeks leverage for the US, and if you can credibly threaten a non punishable first strike, you can dictate terms. This is what Biden was trying to do by provoking the Ukraine war, but he didn’t have the cards, which was Trump’s real problem with his policies, the stupidity and needless suffering, deaths, and the economic damage to Europe that has weakened them as an ally to the point that they can’t be considered reliable. Europe is also destroying the culture that made them strong.

narciso said...

Its gone downhill since brian the dog left the staff

imTay said...

Biden can literally give a speech where the podium and lighting are strongly suggestive of a Nazi eagle symbol, with two soldiers in uniform behind him, and you guys all pretended not to notice.

What Biden did to American workers, to Europe, that showed the real mean streak.

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bagoh20 said...

"Can't one object to that, particularly when it leads to destructive actions and policies?"

Sure. They should try that for a change instead of just the endless ad hominem stuff with no proof of it to site.
For example, people constantly call him racist, 100 times a day, but as soon as you ask for an example, they got nothing. If he's that dangerous, you should be able to show us how. Not with unfounded predictions, but with real examples where he was. Instead we have wars ending, threats ending, people being freed from tyrants. It that the danger? I think the danger being felt is him succeeding in doing good things. Lets be honest. That's what the left fears most.

Leland said...

I know it must really rankle 90% of them having to sit on their hands and listen without interrupting to put in their 2 cents' worth.

They don't realize that his supporters are laughing at them as Trump shows how important they are by wasting their time. They already made up their story, and Trump knows it. He could ignore them, but then they would just run their stories anyway. So, Trump plays with them, like an owner of a dog might toss a ball and watch it fetch.

Jupiter said...

Well, now we know what Susan B. Glasser thinks. Is she that comedienne whose act consists of detailed discussions of what a slut she is?

narciso said...

They might be related

narciso said...

Thats glaser

bagoh20 said...

If you asked committed Democrats on the street if they would prefer a world war or a recession if it got Trump assassinated, how many would be good with that? That's our problem, not Trump or the right. The left is willing to tolerate a lot of evil for to sooth their feelings.

narciso said...

Thats why they should be committed look at poseurs like don henley in 'end of the innocence" at the end of the cold war

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Stephen said...

OK Bagoh20. I would happily list the evidence, on racism and many other issues. But I've done that here on the blog multiple times, taking hours to make the case, and for the most part, the responses are epithets. I've concluded that blog comments are not where persuasion happens, if it ever does in this polarized environment we live in.

My main beef is with Professor Althouse. She knows much better than to claim that it's all about Trump's attention getting, rather that saying things and taking actions, that among other things, show complete contempt for her most important values, free speech and the rule of law, not to mention corruption at a mind boggling scale.

Deep State Reformer said...

Susan B. Glasser is a foreign policy wonk trying to use literary symbolism and analogy in order to try and project her reputed gravitas. IOW a fancy-schmancy way of saying "orange man bad" for the wipe-our-ass-with-a-doily crowd that read the New Yorker. Pass.

bagoh20 said...

Another example of the tolerance of evil just resolved today. Two natal care nurses in different places recently announced that they hoped the pregnant White House Press Secretary suffered terrible injuries during child birth. The both got fired today. That's some kind of severe mental dysfunction to throw everything away just to vent an unalloyed evil political rage. It's not normal.

narciso said...

https://x.com/Washington_Rep/status/2014743863479419329

Stephen said...

bagoh20: You write: "Having people vent, vote, and act on such fact-free emotions is what's dangerous for the country." I agree completely.

Jupiter said...

"Why, I ask, would anyone be interested in listening to a rambling wreck of a politician blathering about himself to a captive audience, revealing his human depravity?"

Why, indeed. Yet there they sat.

tastid212 said...

It's amazing - and comical at times - how people who dislike Trump have such willful blind spots. They get so hung up on HOW he says things that they don't hear WHAT he is saying. And then they spout off and write about him - including several commenters here - which sheds more light on their own hangups than any insight into Trump or human nature.

And rcocean, glad you brought up Death in Venice, which is an entirely appropriate read for people with TDS; they'd identify with the compulsions and self-loathing of von Aschenbach.

imTay said...

I read this blog pretty regularly and if Stephan ever backed anything up, it was probably just a repetition of talking points that he sincerely believes and nobody bought them because he refused to address objections honestly, and his implied threat of ostracization aimed at Althouse fits the pattern. His real problem with this blog is that we seem to be insensitive to the social pressure that he is attempting to apply.

imTay said...

I was never so satisfied with the ending of a novel as when that old pederast fell over dead.

imTay said...

Like a story I heard of when some airmen went to see the movie Das Boot and jumped up and cheered when the submarine pen got bombed by the Americans.

Anthony said...

Thomas Mann? Didn't he walk into a cornfield in 1989?

Beasts of England said...

’…complete contempt for her most important values, free speech and the rule of law, not to mention corruption at a mind boggling scale.’

Once again, argument by assertion. Just give one example each of Trump’s: actions against free speech, ignoring the rule of law, and mind-boggling corruption.

Inga said...

“Sorry, Ann, what Donald self-describes as "the weave" is an egotistical perception of his inability to organize his thoughts logically, so he lets fly a visceral "stream of consciousness." Why, I ask, would anyone be interested in listening to a rambling wreck of a politician blathering about himself to a captive audience, revealing his human depravity?”

The “Weave”, good grief, how can anyone believe he does this on purpose and has control over it.

imTay said...

The best work of art coming out of Switzerland was William Tell, about the man who drove the Hapsburgs from their with his trusty crossbow, of course the Swiss did not stay free forever. Post revolutionary Americans were taken with that story, which would be seen as subversive now.

Gospace said...

Talking about defense I know what the GIUK gap is. SOSUS sensosus sensors and successor programs we don't know about litter the seafloor. It's a vital area and has bin for a ce turn more.

imTay said...

There was even the part where William Tell was forced to shoot the apple off of his son’s head because he refused to bow to a piece of cloth, where have we seen state power used to compel submission to a piece of cloth that represented the power of the state?

Smilin' Jack said...

“I picture her denouncing the reader for not digging in, paying attention, trusting the author, and taking the time to understand.”

Good grief, who does that anymore? “The Magic Mountain” is the kind of thing Grok was made for.

boatbuilder said...

The line about stopping wars that he didn't even know were happening is a "laugh line," Susan, not an indicator of dementia.
You lefties WISH Trump was even a little bit demented, and less focused on accomplishing the destruction of the leftist project.

Smilin' Jack said...

I enjoy Trump’s speeches, in small doses. But seeing them as a “luminous tapestry” would take some powerful mushrooms.

Hassayamper said...

History will regard the 2026 Davos forum as the moment, on the heels of Trump’s tariffs, Nobel Peace Prize petulance, and Greenland grab, when the United States of America stopped being the leader of the Western world.

The "Western World" aside from the US and maybe Canada and Australia is an irrelevancy. The economic, demographic, and cultural decline of Europe is irreversible now, and within one generation, or two at most, it will be a poor, violent, hostile Muslim-ruled shithole where women are treated as less than cattle.

john mosby said...

imtay: "where have we seen state power used to compel submission to a piece of cloth that represented the power of the state?"

Do you mean kneeling in kente cloth? CC, JSM

Stephen said...

Beasts of England:

1. The law firm cases, where multiple courts have found that Trump acted in violation of the First Amendment and with the clear intention of preventing law firms from opposing adminstration policies. This is a FIrst A/rule of law twofer.

2. The Harvard case, where a court found that Harvard acted in violation of the First Amendment and all the relevant governing statutes in cutting of life saving medical research.

3. The prosecutions of James and Comey, both of which courts found were brought unlawfully. Incidentally both cases were brought after all the career prosecutors involved in investigating them said that the government had no case, and after Trump publicly ordered his AG to proceed anyway.

4. The threat of criminal prosecution against the Chair of the Fed simply to get him to lower interest rates. Now the threat of criminal prosecution against Minnesota state and local elected officials.

5. Pardoning January 6 protestors who were convicted by juries of violent crimes against law enforcement officers and praising Ashli Babbitt as a hero and a victim, while condemning peaceful protests of his own policies and refusing to investigate the shooting of Renee Good. The latter decision resulted in the resignation of the prosecutors who have been the leaders of the Minnesota fraud investigations that conservatives have been cheering on. They thought the failure to investigate was despicable.

6. Engaging in blatant quid pro quo self enrichment, for example in the CBS lawsuit and the pardon of billionaire Zhao after his company provided the technical and financial infrastructure for the Trump family crypto business. Many others have received pardons soon after making large donations to Trumps slush fund.

7. Not only is Trump busy pardoning major backers who've been convicted of financial fraud, but he's also canceling restitution obligations to the fraudsters' victims--leaving them holding the bag. One can think of this as a direct transfer from the victims of fraud to Trumps own personal pocket. Choice, no?

8. Massive conflict of interest corruption. Estimates of the amount the Trump family has realized from the exercise, or potential exercise, of Trump's powers in office range from $1.4 billion (the times) to 4 billion (the WSJ).

That's a start. Now we can see whether anyone engages with the substance.

bagoh20 said...

I bet Glasser didn't know about some of the wars Trump was referring to either. She likely still doesn't. If Trump was a Democrat that would make him endearing. "He's just like me."

Stephen said...

Typo: In no 2, I obviously meant the court found that Trump acted in violation of law, not Harvard.

Beasts of England said...

I appreciate the response, Stephen.

1, 2, and 3 were rejected by the courts. It happens in every administration, so not unusual. 4. He’s allowed free speech. Labeling them threats is subjective. 5. Pardons are totally legal. 6. There’s no quid pro quo in settling a lawsuit. Per the second part, again: pardons are legal whether you agree with them or not. 7. I don’t know anything about canceling restitution obligations, but, if true, your characterization of them as a direct transfer to Trump is absurd and unproven. 8. Pure speculation with zero proof.

bagoh20 said...

Stephen, A list of similar issues could be assembled for any modern President. Politics is war now days. Administrations are huge with libraries of policies, actions, and court cases involving thousands of people. Each could be argued endlessly, and some could be shown in an opposite light of fraud or even treason. And there are always actions taken by the opposition that are equally arguable and can be made into ugly versions of what they are: attempts to reign power away from the other side. Courts do not prove anything. They are as political and corrupt as the rest. In the end, what matters is results. Is the nation better off or worse on whole with all the warts that every administration has whether deserved or not. These cut and paste hand grenades people have poised and ready are like real hand grenades - designed to be thrown with your eyes closed without regard to accuracy.

William said...

"Laughter is a sunbeam of the soul." Maybe it sounds better in German. That's one of his best known quotes? Looks like something found in a Hallmark card.......Maybe the Nobel Committee could award Trump the Lit Prize for his weaves. That would be cool and in keeping with their groundbreaking work in awarding the prize to Dylan... I think they gave Churchill the Literature Prize since they couldn't very well give him the Peace Prize, and he deserved some kind of recognitionl.

Dunham said...

Perfectly stated Stephen! Trump is defined by greed, cruelty, chaos and corruption with no care for the rule of law or the constitution.

narciso said...

Good gravy the stupid is thick like andromeda over he4e

Rocco said...

Anthony said...
Thomas Mann? Didn't he walk into a cornfield in 1989?

That was Admiral James Greer.

narciso said...

I wonder who kinsella intended for that role

Stephen said...

bagoh20: we'll have to agree to disagree on whether Presidents have always done the stuff that Trump is doing. We could have a great conversation on that. The important point, for my purposes, is that Althouse has denounced such conduct by Democratic Presidents and she should be willing to do so when Trump engages in it. Her failure to do so, I think, is down to the fact that her readers would melt away if she did so.

As for the only the results matter, that's a bigger conversation, both as to the principle and the question of how good Trump's results have been.

John henry said...

Stephen, I thought the question was about how PDJT was racist.

Your 1:00 raised 8-10 points noe of which had anything to do with racism that I can see.

John Henry

John henry said...

But perhaps you were responding to a different comment?

John Henry

narciso said...

Also thulsa doom and major kong (from strangelove)

Inga said...

“Her failure to do so, I think, is down to the fact that her readers would melt away if she did so.”

Or she believes as they do. Or she is hesitant to do so as her readers would tear her apart limb from limb and she doesn’t want to deal with such upheaval in her blog which means a deal to her.

Inga said...

A great deal.

Kakistocracy said...

More people need to bring up the dementia — looking at the media.

imTay said...

Well if the anti-Trump WSJ has leveled the accusations, what would be the point of a trial?

narciso said...

Those ethical experts that always lean one way

Javert said...

It's what he does that counts.

Stephen said...

Beasts of England, Your view appears to be, this is just business as usual. Kind of like Bagoh20. We'll have to disagree. On the point about self enrichment, though, you might look at the attached Reuters article. Their analysis showed that Trump family income went up 17 fold in the first six months of 2025, as compared with the same period in 2024, and that all the gain was attributable to their brand new crypto business, which basically allows people to put money into the Trump family's pocket anonymously. Just coincidence, I suppose. https://www.reuters.com/investigations/how-reuters-tallied-trump-organizations-crypto-income-2025-10-28/

Stephen said...

John Henry, I made a separate point about Althouse's failure to call out Trump for lawless and corrupt conduct that, based on her blogging history, she should abhor. Beasts of England asked me to back it up, and I tried to do so. I believe I could do the same with the racism (and also sexism) charge, but that's not what I undertook here.

imTay said...

Inga is projecting because she knows she often swallows her own doubts about the points she makes for fear of being ostracized by her peeps. Or she is a complete moron. I will go with the more charitable interpretation that it’s the groupthink making her reject logic.

For instance surely she knows that RFKJr is right about Tylenol and autism, it’s just taboo for her to honestly examine the evidence and argument.

Political Junkie said...

DJT is 79 and slowing down. Fact.
I am 55 and slowing down. Fact.
Susan Glasser is a bum. Fact.
Her husband is a bum. Fact.

Breezy said...

I’m a big fan of Trump’s policies and political acumen, but even I nowadays turn the channel when he starts to repeat his trademark phrases. I’m simply tried of the same old same old in his speeches. I imagine it’s a habit, even a bad habit, that he can’t stop himself. Or perhaps he considers his weave as his brand, though, and utilizes the patterns to reassure people of his steadfastness. I dunno. I am behind him 100% on policy and completely trust him (or JD or Rubio or Bessent) now to follow through. I don’t need to listen to him to be convinced.
I can understand why the weave patterns aggravate people that hate him. They’re always there, just as he is.

imTay said...

Apparently every drop in the stock market is Trump’s fault, and the tear it’s on since he took office is attributed to Joe Biden. Same with GDP growth, it’s all Joe Biden’s policies finally taking hold.

Inga said...

I’mTimmy speaks of projection, then proceeds to project.LOL

Beasts of England said...

’…the gain was attributable to their brand new crypto business, which basically allows people to put money into the Trump family's pocket anonymously.’

The term ‘basically allows’ is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that argument. Again, it’s either legal or it’s not. If it’s illegal then support that claim. Otherwise, it’s moot…

And you are correct that I view the other items as nominal in politics, and it’s fine that we disagree. Again, I appreciate the response and exchange.

imTay said...

I have always changed the channel when he comes on, but I follow his results and he is getting done a lot of what I voted for him to do, in this world, perfect is not on offer.

Bushman of the Kohlrabi said...

Trump actually lost money his first 4 years in office. For a real eye opener, you should see the net worths of both Clinton and Obama upon entering/leaving office.

imTay said...

Show me where, Inga.

narciso said...

Thank you for you attention to this matter

narciso said...

Maybe they shouldnt have tried to bankrupt jail and debsnk him

Leland said...

john mosby said...
imtay: "where have we seen state power used to compel submission to a piece of cloth that represented the power of the state?"

Do you mean kneeling in kente cloth? CC, JSM


Perhaps he meant covid masks?

Inga said...

“I’m simply tried of the same old same old in his speeches. I imagine it’s a habit, even a bad habit, that he can’t stop himself.”

Most likely he can’t. There are other signs of
dementia, this is just one of them.

“Or perhaps he considers his weave as his brand, though, and utilizes the patterns to reassure people of his steadfastness.”

He most likely knows it’s bizarre and as he so often does, he makes up a story about why he does it. He needs his followers to be steadfast and his dementia is not yet so advanced that he hasn’t seen that he has lost much support from his Hispanic, Black and Asian followers this past year.

narciso said...

The countries who have crashed their power grids let themselves be invaded let their citizens put at threat of their lives and property without protection for themselves or by law enforcement

narciso said...

In fact they silence their citizens for properly addressimg these issues

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D.D. Driver said...

More and more, the only good thing the Trumptards can muster in his support is that Biden was stupid, senile, and corrupt too!

FullMoon said...

Inga calmly explains:
Or she believes as they do. Or she is hesitant to do so as her readers would tear her apart limb from limb and she doesn’t want to deal with such upheaval in her blog which means a deal to her.Or she believes as they do. Or she is hesitant to do so as her readers would tear her apart limb from limb and she doesn’t want to deal with such upheaval in her blog
which means a deal to her.

ON the other hand,
"The "Meltdown": The tension reached a breaking point when Althouse defended the open nature of the comments section. Inga, feeling the moderation was one-sided or non-existent in the face of personal attacks, lashed out and called Althouse a "bitch" before effectively being exiled from the community for a period"
Oct 30, 2014

Inga said...

Full Moon, the fish mongers wife, telling tales. No, that’s not how it went, get your story straight.

Stephen said...

Beasts of England, You write: "Again, it’s either legal or it’s not. If it’s illegal then support that claim. Otherwise, it’s moot…"

I cannot demonstrate that Trump has acted unlawfully in ways that resulted in the 17 fold increase in his family income reported by Reuters. (17 fold!!!!!!!) I don't personally have the power to investigate the question, and Trump has a stranglehold on everyone who does, notably Congress. I don't think that makes the issue moot, though. For one thing, if control of Congress shifts next year, we can expect an investigation. And surely you have to agree that a seventeen fold increase in a politician's family income in the year he assumed office (from a $60 million base!) is a pretty suspicious fact. In contrast, Clinton, GW and Obama's income in the first year of their second terms went down--in each case the amounts involved say $200-300K--less than half a percent of the gain the Trump family realized in the first six months. (But of course they disclosed their tax returns...) If Biden had reported a 17 fold increase in his income on entering office, what would you have said?

Inga said...

After the midterms and the House and possibly the Senate is won by Democrats, will the true believers ever ask themselves “why”?

Rocco said...

Political Junkie said...
I am 55 and slowing down. Fact.

I am 58 and slowing down. Fact.
But Salma Hayek is 59 and still smokin’ hot. Fact.

Stephen said...

Arithmetic error: less than .05 %. If there is grift here, it is happening at a scale that rivals Putin.

Beasts of England said...

’I cannot demonstrate that Trump has acted unlawfully in ways that resulted in the 17 fold increase in his family income reported by Reuters.’

There’s nothing suspicious about his alleged increase in income, as his new income stream is discussed in your linked article about his crypto business. A piece in which Reuters speculated about the increased income of the Trump Organization, but the way.

Biden, unlike Trump, had been on the public payroll for more than half a century prior to the presidency, so a similar increase by him would have been suspicious, as he has no known private sector businesses or expertise. The difference is plain and obvious.

bagoh20 said...

If you were Trump, and having the unprecedented success and influence that he is on money controlling people and governments worldwide, how would you prevent being criticized like this?

narciso said...

Yes he built an empire on graft largely through his banking ties in delaware

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Kakistocracy said...

The most profound impression of this book; namely an attempt at capturing the experience of time through its story telling style.

It's about a man caught between ideas of East and West. The novel associates Eastern philosophy with inaction, and Western philosophy with action, a tension embodied by the physical appearance of Castorp's love interests whose physical features sit somewhere between the two.

As a Western reader, you become frustrated with Castorp's years of idleness at the spa until the end of the novel, which abruptly confronts you with the West's "cult of action" -- and the consequences thereof.

A continuation of sorts may be found in Colm Toibin's 'The Magician's, a biography of Mann, and a good extension/completion of the Mann experience.

Beasts of England said...

’If you were Trump, and having the unprecedented success and influence that he is on money controlling people and governments worldwide, how would you prevent being criticized like this?’

It can’t be prevented because there are irrational people who will criticize anything to advance their politics.

Gospace said...

I'm not going to even attempt to post from my phone anymore. What I posted above isn't anywhere close to what I saw on the phone screen...

Stephen said...

Beasts of England, do you have a better estimate of the Trump 17 fold family income increase? (The Times and WSJ estimates are comparable.) If not, isn't is reasonable to take it as a starting point for discussion, particularly since Trump has declined to offer contrary evidence and does not release his tax returns? How about the fact that income went down in the first year of a second term for the prior four two term presidents (yep, Reagan too) and that they were totally transparent about their income. Why aren't these good reasons to be suspicious? If billionaire JP Pritzker took office and his income went up by a factor of 17 and he refused to explain or provide tax returns, what would you say? In case you can't tell, I am fishing to see if you can ever see any legitimate reason for worrying about whether Trump is acting with the nation's interest at heart, or if you're only interested in defending him.

bagoh20 said...

Trump media coverage is 9:1 negative. If you were Trump, how would you change that?

n.n said...

Is the magic mountain where collectivists wield liberal license to perform human rites for social, clinical, criminal, political, and climate progress on the backs of broken fetuses at the twilight fringe?

Breezy said...

All presidents have their rhetorical tics. Every single one. It’s not new and it’s not a sign of dementia.

Kakistocracy said...

How Trump has pocketed $1,408,500,000 ~ NYT

Some Americans looked at a fading real estate developer—who had filed for bankruptcy six times and treated every crisis as a personal transactional opportunity—and decided, “This man would make a great president.” Of course, serving the American people was never his intention. In his entire life, he had never truly served anyone but himself.

John henry said...

One of the amazing things to come out of Davos was the Board of Peace (BOP). I'd not thought much about it until I read Jeff Childers Coffee and Covid blog today. He convinced me to find a copy of the charter and read it. I found the full text here
https://www.timesofisrael.com/full-text-charter-of-trumps-board-of-peace/

Coupled with the US leaving 66 or so mostly UN organizations and its basic duplication of the UNs mission, it looks like the UN may be dead. One can hope, anyway.

It is a pretty amazing document:

Chairman is Donald J Trump (by name) in his personal capacity.

Membership is by invitation only. VIP Gold membership costs $1bn. I think that gets you into the champaign room.

Membership is only open to the head of state or head of govt of the invited countries. So the US gets a seat as US, plus PDJT as chair.

Heads of state can delegate someone to attend meetings in their place, but only with PDJTs approval. I think I read somewhere that Rubio will fill the US seat but I could be wrong.

The board gets to vote on everything but the Chairman has an absolute veto.

PDJT can be removed for incapacity but the charter seems to make it pretty unlikely unless he is actually dead. Even then I can see them stuffing him and sitting him at the head of the table like Jeremy Bentham.

PDJT gets to name his successor. The board has no vote on this.

Some other stuff but those are the points I found most interesting.

All that nonsense about PDJT wanting to be a Rooseveltian president for life? Or King of the US?

We should have known better. He is not going to settle for something small like that. He wants to be KING OF THE WORLD FOREVER!

(And I'm fine with that)

John Henry

Beasts of England said...

’Beasts of England, do you have a better estimate of the Trump 17 fold family income increase?’

I don’t care if it’s tenfold or twentyfold. The alleged increase, whatever it may be, is apparently from the crypto business. And, no, I don’t think he should have offer contrary evidence to prove his innocence. That applies to all citizens.

I have no interest in defending him for the sake of defending him. If there’s a legitimate claim of illegality, re: his dealings, then investigate away. And if he’s found guilty, so be it.

Quaestor said...

I am confused. If Trump's income tax returns are kept a secret. how does Reuters (Reuters!) know how much the Trump net worth has grown?

Curious thing about lies, those inclined to believe mendacities are more inclined to believe big lies than small indiscretions.

Beasts of England said...

@Quaestor:

’The process entailed reviewing the president’s official disclosures, property records, financial records released in court cases, crypto trade information and other publicly available sources. Where the family’s share of revenue from certain ventures could not be determined…’

Smoke and mirrors, but trust us!!

Quaestor said...
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Quaestor said...

Inga and company have been breathless reporting the imminent crushing impact of the walls closing in on Donald John Trump since 2015.

Eleven years and counting. Those are some extremely slow walls, aren't they?

narciso said...

Reuters oiuja board

Jim at said...

Why don't you explain to us lesser minds why the hell he would confuse Iceland and Greenland. - Brewmeister Freder

I don't know. Maybe you could explain why you screamed at us stupid dupes for not knowing Coors Light and Bud Light were owned by the same company ... when they clearly were not.

Beasts of England said...

I don’t know how I missed this earlier gem:

’I don't personally have the power to investigate the question, and Trump has a stranglehold on everyone who does, notably Congress.’

The Mueller investigation commenced four months after Trump first took office, whilst Republicans held both houses of Congress.

Ted Nugent weeps. Here I come again now, baby…

narciso said...

And how many cabinet members did they knee cap in various ways price zinke carson the hardees guy

bagoh20 said...

I hate the fold.

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