That's María Corina Machado, who had the power to make a gift of the object, the medal, but cannot cause Trump to become the prize-winner.
Presumably, she did not give him any of the money — about $1 million — that came with the award. That money means much more to her than to our billionaire President, but more important, visitors to the President can't be handing over piles of money. And she wants something from him. She wants a lot.
He wanted something too, the Nobel Prize, and now he's in the ambiguous position of sort of having it. You just have the medal. It's like Putin's Super Bowl ring.
What do you have when you have the token of winning and you did not win? It's not the token of winning with respect to you, so what is it?
Trump's possession of the medal cannot represent recognition by the Nobel Committee but it does represent recognition by Machado, purporting to represent the people of Bolívar. Who does the Nobel Committee purport to represent?
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Might be the most beautiful paragraphs Our Hostess has written. Bravo.
What do you have when you have the token of winning and you did not win? It's not the token of winning with respect to you, so what is it?
Why don’t you ask William Thomas? Or does he still call himself “Lia”?
"It's like Putin's Super Bowl ring."
A very apt analogy.
Emil Zátopek, the legendary Czech distance runner, gave one of his Olympic gold medals (specifically his 10,000m gold from the 1952 Helsinki Games) to Australian runner Ron Clarke.This generous act happened in 1966, when Clarke visited Prague for a race and stayed with Zátopek. Clarke, despite setting numerous world records in the 1960s, never won an Olympic gold medal himself (he was notably affected by high altitude at the 1968 Mexico City Games). Zátopek, recognizing Clarke's talent and "bad luck" in major championships, presented him with a small parcel at the airport as a parting gift. He told Clarke to open it later, with the inscription inside reading something along the lines of "Not out of friendship but because you deserve it". Clarke only unwrapped it once the plane was airborne—revealing the precious medal—and was deeply moved by the gesture.
"What do you have when you have the token of winning and you did not win? It's not the token of winning with respect to you, so what is it?"
Ask Obama, he didn't deserve his either.
Every US Vice President gets to have their bust displayed in the Senate. It’s a participation trophy for Veeps, and hence a fitting capstone for Kamala Harris’s career.
Everybody from Putin to Lindsay Graham to Machado to Macron and Starmer believes that Trump is an easily manipulable narcissist, and it is starting to look like they are right. He fooled me.
To me this is far more meaningful than winning the award from those nitwits in Norway.
“ Everybody from Putin to Lindsay Graham to Machado to Macron and Starmer believes that Trump is an easily manipulable narcissist, and it is starting to look like they are right.”
I’d be pretty proud of a list of critics like that.
The Nobel has long lost standing given its ridiculous partisan bias. While I appreciate the gesture, I wish she had given a medal depicting the face of Bolivar instead. At this point, the Nobel doesn’t deserve Trump.
Fools are easily fooled.
In this case, Trump has the respect of a Nobel Peace Prize winner, if not the committee. It doesn’t really matter what the score is, all the players know the GOAT.
who had the power to make a gift of the object, the medal, but cannot cause Trump to become the prize-winner
…why must people always display political asymmetry with Trump? Yes he didn’t win it but it doesn’t need the explanation or the qualifying language. Yeah I know why- We.Get.It….
Hemingway gave away his Nobel to the people of Cuba but you know that didn’t mean they actually won it you know. Zzzzzz….
DY-NO-MITE!
And...the Norwegian leftists on the Nobel voting committee are gonna be constipated insomniacs for the next year.
This "cannot" happen:
https://www.nobelpeaceprize.org/press/press-releases/a-nobel-prize-cannot-be-revoked-shared-or-transferred
Trump deserved the prize 1000x more than her (obviously), let alone the token DEI prize given to Obama in 2009 for his skin color before he did anything in office.
One imagines and AI mural with a ripped Trump at the center of it looking like Thor himself wearing a WWE belt around his slim waist with the Nobel Peace prize dangling from his neck.
He really knows how to generate clicks. The Dims keep fumbling to catch up. It's like being stuck in a Time Warp.
It's like Putin's Super Bowl ring.
Putin wasn’t given the ring. Robert Kraft showed it to him and Putin refused to give it back.
Great, now the village idiots will go home satisfied that their leader won a participation trophy.
What a bunch of thin skinned snowflakes, so upset at Scandinavia about their popularity prize.
Kraft was diplomatic about the incident at first saying it was a gift, then when the timing was right he changed his mind and said it wasn’t. I’m just disappointed it never showed up on Pawn Stars…
If Trump can engineer a peaceful transfer of power in Venezuela, he would certainly deserve the Nobel. It's possible.....Less likely, but still possible is the end of the Mullah's power in Iran. If unlike Iraq, Libya, and Syria there's a transfer of power without an endless civil war, that would be quite something. If that happens, not only should Trump receive the reward but, as a gesture of humility and good will, the individual members of the Nobel Committee should bow down and kiss Trump's ass before the award ceremony.
Left unsaid: I’ll trade you this Nobel Peace Prize for the Presidency of Venezuela.”
since he is President.. and is NOT a Clinton;
the gift would be to the USA, not the man.. Correct?
This is Vald. He came all the way to Vegas because he was gifted this ring he says doesn’t fit his hands and he needs money so he wants to sell. We asked are good friend ‘Roger’ who knows somethings about football to come and take a look…
... visitors to the President can't be handing over piles of money.
Ha. What a pile of naive bullshit.
The Clinton Global Initiative has entered the chat.
…amidst all the leftie kvetching some accountant will point out the angle to nick Trump on tax evasion for failing to claim fmv of the metal in the award…
I envision Trump at the end of his Presidency posing like this with his seven Nobel Peace Prizes (hopefully with his clothes on)
https://www.si.edu/collections/snapshot/let-games-begin
In 5 years the FMV of the medal may very well be outside the IRS "one-time" gift limit. Thank you globalists. Thank you!
If Trump were a Democrat, it would be accepted worldwide that he did indeed win the Nobel. Of course, if he were a Democrat, he probably would have been given one officially.
Personally I find the whole thing silly, and suspect that Trump is quite happy to accept it from Machado, if it means making the right heads spin.
The establishment is not having a gay old time and they are unhappy.
Leland said...
In this case, Trump has the respect of a Nobel Peace Prize winner, if not the committee. It doesn’t really matter what the score is, all the players know the GOAT.
1/16/26, 6:41 AM
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It is more likely that she knows that Trump is an easily manipulated narcissist.
She places her country’s welfare above everything while Trump places the satisfaction of his ego above everything.
That’s a beautiful sentiment by Machado. Not reporting her own words about echoing history seems close to journalistic malpractice.
Someones a sad panda
She has lost both ways. Trump sees her as weak. World sees her as trying to buy him.
She’s humiliated herself, totally discredited the Noble Peace Prize and Trump accepting it has rendered it worthless to anyone but him.
@Kakistocracy: otally discredited the Noble Peace Prize
It's about time! The name is NOBEL from Alfred Nobel's family name, not Noble.
The prize they gave to Arafat, no way
Not to mention le duc tho
Donald Trump’s first Venezuela oil sale deal goes to megadonor’s company ~ FT
"Senior Vitol trader met US president at White House last week and gave millions of dollars to his re-election campaign"
"The first US sale of Venezuelan crude was to a company whose senior oil trader donated to Donald Trump’s reelection campaign and attended a White House meeting with the president last week.
John Addison, a senior trader at Vitol who donated about $6mn to political action committees backing Trump’s re-election campaign, was involved in his company’s efforts to secure a $250mn deal for Venezuelan crude.
Vitol said Addison’s donations, which made the senior trader one of the most generous Trump supporters in Houston, were made in a private capacity."
"The media’s continued attempts to fabricate conflicts of interest are a tired attempt to distract from the incredible work
only this president is capable of achieving.” ~ W H spokesperson Taylor Rogers
Nope. This is real, 100%, bona fide corruption.
She places her country’s welfare above everything while Trump places the satisfaction of his ego above everything.
The first clause may be true - her being awarded the Peace Prize was, I confess, the first I'd heard of her.
But the second? For a person supposedly driven only by ego and narcissism, Trump sure is pursuing his aim in the hardest way possible. It's easy to get people to like you. It's only slightly more difficult to get them to respect you - if you only want them to respect what you say and don't care if they notice what you do (or believe they won't be paying attention to what you do, which seems often to be the case in politics). It would've been s simple matter for Trump to say the things he said during his campaign, get elected, and then "pivot," as they say - transform into the kind of President people like, who says things people respect. Instead Trump is doing the things that he believes - or at any rate (to throw his critics a bone) says he believes - will benefit the country long-term, despite their immediate cost - so far, that cost being realized especially in blows to his ego and desire to be admired.
Now, I am using "people" in the above para to refer specifically to the tastemakers of the US and generally the World Order, people who are uniformly on the political left, and to those who draw their world view from them. But if you were a person driven solely by ego and narcissism, wouldn't you want the tastemakers on your side? It would feel so good.
Did Trump earn a Nobel Peace Prize? Machado says yes; the Nobel Committee says no.
Machado has actually done what it takes to win one and knows from where she speaks. Has the Nobel Committee?
The Noble Piece prize lost its gay appeal with Obama's Iran-Hamasidol Affair and [black] lives that didn't matter.
What do you have when you have the token of winning and you did not win? It's not the token of winning with respect to you, so what is it?
It is the understanding by most people in the world that he should have won it.
When Trump starts arresting seditious traitors who are helping foreigners rob and rape our country he will be right next to George Washington in the history books.
If he doesn't arrest these fucks he will be the loser that couldn't do what Lincoln did and be more like Buchanan when the madness spreads.
Hopefully, the Venezuelans can mitigate their progress. Perhaps a Northern Alliance, but America is a Democrazi with a warm Antifa climate. Time is value and Trump is not immortal. Good luck, Machado. It's her choice.
AMDG said...
Leland said...
In this case, Trump has the respect of a Nobel Peace Prize winner, if not the committee. It doesn’t really matter what the score is, all the players know the GOAT.
1/16/26, 6:41 AM
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It is more likely that she knows that Trump is an easily manipulated narcissist.
She places her country’s welfare above everything while Trump places the satisfaction of his ego above everything.
All Trump would have had to do to be popular with a piece of shit like you is do what Romney and Cheney did.
Trump chose to listen to the vast majority of his voters instead of selling out.
There aren't very many people like you that like traitors and sellouts.
I was going to say Trump should've refuse to take it. But after reading what she said, the wrong thing would have been to refuse to take it.
Howard said...
One imagines and AI mural with a ripped Trump at the center of it looking like Thor himself wearing a WWE belt around his slim waist with the Nobel Peace prize dangling from his neck.
He really knows how to generate clicks. The Dims keep fumbling to catch up. It's like being stuck in a Time Warp.
40K God Emperor Trump was better.
It's because he's a Person of Orange (PoO), right? Diversitists.
MAGA likes participation prizes now?
"Who does the Nobel Committee purport to represent?"
Why, the enemies of freedom, of course.
María Corina Machado has handed her physical Nobel Peace Prize to Donald Trump, who shall henceforth be known in this space as Nobel Peace Prize recipient Donald Trump. ~ MAGA
"MAGA likes participation prizes now?"<
Well, as with all the new rules that Obama created, we didn't like it when the rule was implemented ... but we will play by YOUR rules if you want. And beat you by YOUR rules.
Remember, Barack Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in his 8th month as President. At that time, he was dropping bombs on brown people in Afghanistan and Pakistan. He later invaded and killed the leader of Libya - resulting in now a thriving market in black slaves.
Grok: "In the widely reported 2017 footage and investigations of the Libyan "slave markets," the individuals being auctioned and sold were predominantly Black men from sub-Saharan Africa."
That's right: The first black President of the United States brought back slavery. Of black people.
Got hisself a Nobel Peace Prize, yo.
Donald TrollMaster McEverspicy should give it to the US mint and have them restrike it with a new design involving him. He should figure out a way to keep Alfred's visage on it, but work himself in somehow either on the face or the reverse.
Doing it to increase kakle's butt frustration alone is worth it.
Kakistocracy said...
MAGA likes participation prizes now?
The retard doesn't understand what a participation trophy is.
This is almost literally the opposite of a participation trophy you idiot.
"Might be the most beautiful paragraphs Our Hostess has written. Bravo."
It is a rare moment these days that I start reading something with one opinion and completely change my mind after one paragraph
"I was going to say Trump should've refuse to take it. But after reading what she said, the wrong thing would have been to refuse to take it."
Exactly my response
Enigma write: "The name is NOBEL from Alfred Nobel's family name, not Noble."
Trump’s inability to distinguish between “Nobel” and “noble” raises new questions about Joe Biden’s advanced age.
It's like Putin's Super Bowl ring.
Was it the professor's intention to imply that Machado didn't actually give Trump her medal freely, but was somehow coerced? That Trump, like Putin, essentially stole the prize from it's recipient?
"... 200 years ago, General Lafayette gave Simón Bolívar a medal with George Washington's face on it' as a symbol of ... their shared fight for freedom against tyranny. ... the people of Bolívar are giving back to the heir of Washington a medal—as a recognition for his unique commitment with our freedom / to our freedom."
Machado got the prize because she struggled for freedom, not peace. I like the idea of a medal for people who struggle for freedom passed on from one to another at intervals - Lafayette to Bolivar to Machado to Trump to ...
Obviously anybody but Trump would have got the Peace Prize because he ended several conflicts and prevented several others. But the countries he helped were not European so peace among them doesn't count with the Norwegians.
Anyhow, maybe the Bolivarian Freedom prize, which is intermittently awarded by one freedom fighter to another, is better. An award between two people who respect each other for the risks each took, not an award from a committee mainly afraid of status risks.
Jamie, an excellent comment as always and, as usual, reactions say more about the minds (often small) of the commenters.
“Yesir Yurafart”
h/t Don Imus
Knut Hamsun gave his Nobel Prize for Literature medal, won in 1920, to Joseph Goebbels in 1943. One theory why he did so was to facilate a meeting with Hitler. Hamsun got his meeting with Hitler. Hitler wanted to talk about Hamsun's books. Hamsun wanted to complain about Terboven, the German in charge of Norway, and push for arrested Norwegian civilians to be released. Hitler got so angry that his translator stopped translating what Hamsun was saying. Afterwards, Hilter said that he never wanted to see that man again.
So, giving your Nobel prize away can help to get you a meeting, but it probalby won't change anyone's mind.
Jamie said, "But if you were a person driven solely by ego and narcissism, wouldn't you want the tastemakers on your side? It would feel so good."
There are large numbers of people, myself included, who genuinely believe the world's "tastemakers" have garbage taste. Trustafarians with legacy wealth generally do. Perhaps it has nothing to do with feelings or self-esteem and everything to do with legitimate differences in aesthetics, which is funnier still because Donald really falls into the "garbage taste" category.
A bunch of wealthy people with hideous tastes hating each other over it. The world never changes.
’But if you were a person driven solely by ego and narcissism, wouldn't you want the tastemakers on your side? It would feel so good.’
Precisely. And that’s what happened with McCain and Romney: they couldn’t wait to be fêted by the New York Times.
wildswan said, "... 200 years ago, General Lafayette gave Simón Bolívar a medal with George Washington's face on it' as a symbol of ... their shared fight for freedom against tyranny."
Among my favorite quotes is Bolivar's "Among the popular and representative systems of government I do not approve of the federal system: it is too perfect; and it requires virtues and political talents much superior to our own.”
Bolivar is often compared to Washington, but it's really not a fair comparison. Bolivar could not have done as one man for Latin America what Washington was able to do for America only as a consortium of thousands of men just like him. That's the fundamental difference. Latin America should have been so lucky, which they weren't.
It was a gracious gesture. Let's just call it that. The Venezuelans got the better deal. They got freedom. I'll take that over a Nobel prize any day.
Lone justice.
This is told by Kraft. On meeting Putin ,Putin asked to see the ring. Kraft took it off his finger and gave it to Putin. Putin admired it and then put it in his pocket. Kraft had his hand out indicating he wanted it back. Like all socialists Putin is just a common thief.
Once a Nobel Prize is announced, it cannot be revoked, shared, or transferred to others
…oh so exactly like a concession in match play. I see. Well, there’s evidence to the contrary. Not to worry Nobel lefties Trump won’t add it to his resume. Unfortunately for you though it’s something waaay worse…
Nobel Peace Prize *medal possessor*
I’d be pretty proud of a list of critics like that.
I was thinking the same thing.
I don't think it's personal narcissism that drives Trump. I think he sees stuff like this as a power play. If Macron comes crawling and whingeing and kissing his ass, or Machado takes the gold medal from the Nobel committee and hands it over to Trump, it's a giant and wholly merited "Fuck You" to the European Left.
I know, the medal is positively *ruined* now. Arrafat must be spinning in his grave now that a medal has been given to an absolute monster.
MAGA likes participation prizes now?
Those are awarded to the likes of Barack Obama for being the fantasy black boyfriend for millions of middle-aged white cat-ladies.
This is quite the opposite, a recognition of a great deal of achievement that was churlishly ignored by the pissy little European socialists for political reasons.
But if you were a person driven solely by ego and narcissism, wouldn't you want the tastemakers on your side? It would feel so good.
Once again Jamie hits a thread-winning home run.
Being admired by despicable people does nothing to inflate a real man's ego. Trump rightfully wears the hatred of this country's domestic and foreign enemies as a badge of honor, which it indeed is.
HateTrumpsLove #HateLovesAbortion
Mr. P: Pass it to someone you admire and start a person-to-person-to-person acknowledgment.
When Trump first entered the race in 2016, one of my concerns was that he was, indeed, a total narcissist subject to the insincere praise of "the tastemakers" and would run things accordingly.
I am happy to say that I was very, very wrong.
Nobody seems to note that Trump hasn't elevated Machado to the Presidency of Venezuela, which, as Eva Marie notes, appears to be the expected quid for the quo*.
Left unsaid: I’ll trade you this Nobel Peace Prize for the Presidency of Venezuela.”
My relatively uninformed take is that Ms. Machado is who the CIA wants in place. Trump is playing his cards accordingly.
The Nobel Peace Prize committee is secretly smiling. When the Nobel Peace Prize comes around next year, the year after that, and the year after that, the committee is off the hook, as Trump now already has one.
If they have a mischievous spirit, they could award the prize to Marco Rubio, knowing Donald Trump would make him give it to him.
How does this compare to Miles getting Cetagandan medal from Emperor Giaja
Venezuela is free of Modero but they are not free of his regime which is still running the country. It’s what’s called a “authoritarian succession” that may prove illusory to the people of Venezuela. Ironically, Machado is not as popular as she was before either in Venezuela or in Trump’s circle. - not because she embraced Trump but because she apparently is too ideological for either Trump or Rubio to actually lead the country. It’s an odd situation. I hope the people of Venezuela get an opportunity to vote and get the actual leader they want rather than a regime that refuses to give up power. We’ll see but the next presidential election is not until 2031! Long time from now.
not because she embraced Trump but because she apparently is too ideological for either Trump or Rubio to actually lead the country.
What's her ideology?
Left Bank of the Charles said...
The Nobel Peace Prize committee is secretly smiling. When the Nobel Peace Prize comes around next year, the year after that, and the year after that, the committee is off the hook, as Trump now already has one.
If they have a mischievous spirit, they could award the prize to Marco Rubio, knowing Donald Trump would make him give it to him.
Watch the retard giggle and titter.
They know Trump deserves it.
But they are gleeful little turds biting ankles and proud of their immaturity.
“Presumably, she did not give him any of the money — about $1 million — that came with the award. That money means much more to her than to our billionaire President, but more important, visitors to the President can't be handing over piles of money.”
Hee…Trump knows what he’s doing. The money is chump change. Given its historic significance, this medal would definitely set a new record:
“A Nobel Prize medal's value ranges from its intrinsic gold worth (around $10,000+) to millions at auction, depending heavily on the laureate's fame, with the record set by Dmitry Muratov's Peace Prize medal selling for $103.5 million, while James Watson's Medicine medal fetched $4.75 million, showing historical fame dramatically inflates market value beyond the materials.”
Trump has done more to normalize black, brown, yellow, orange, peach, albino, and Baby Lives Matter (BLM) than any Noble Pieces recipient in recent history.
The vampires and zombies who run the world's institutions would never give Trump any credit for anything. But real live human beings might be moved to do so on occasion.
Bob Boyd:
I should clarify it is not Machado's ideology so much as her unwillingness to work with the current Venezuelan government that has hobbled her. She takes a 'hard line' against the regime and that was seen by Trump's circle as too difficult to put her in a position to lead the country. Trump wanted to get rid of Maduro but not the regime. They want a stable Venezuela and the optics of working with Madero was untenable but working with Machado would be a gamble that they were not sure the leaders and military in Venezuela would accept. So they decided working with acting President Delcy Rodríguez was the best option. It's somewhat ironic given her left leaning credentials but it's practical at this moment. I wish there were an election in Venezuela next year and not in five years.
Trump doesn't have an Oscar yet, like the one Zelensky got from Sean Penn. Must make him sooooo jealous, right libtards?
Does a woman of color gifting her Nobel Prize to an undeserving white man mark the end of DEI—or a new beginning?
Great, now the village idiots will go home satisfied that their leader won a participation trophy.
An Obama voter actually wrote that.
Next up a Grammy for lipsinking to VILLAGE PEOPLE, a best actor Oscar for his cameo in HOME ALONE, a STAR for Dancing with the Stars(next to EMMET SMITHS, sky is the limit for this "shiny object fella" guaranteed in a little bit of time he'll announce he finally WON NOBEL (NOT Noble) and the MAGAS will shout with glee , about time and tell all they know about it. You just can't make this up. The acting president of Venezuela is on a roll and from his girth it looks like many ROLLS. MANY PEOPLE SAY....
By obtaining the physical Nobel Peace Prize, Donald J. Trump is its rightful winner. ~ Vladimir Putin, Super Bowl XXXIX champion
It means more coming from her than the corrupt Nobel committee. She seems to actually value peace and the actions that bring it over the pretentious talk of elites.
It's probably too much to expect from the addled TDS minds of Trump haters, or they would understand that if Trump wanted a Peace Medal so bad, he could easily afford to buy one from some other recipient. That's not what he wants. He wants his detractors to eat the crow dinners they've been hiding in the freezer by watching him get it because he deserved it. That's what they would choke on and make it much more valuable to him.
Every other news story for years has been someone humiliating themselves for Trump in the hope that this will win them favor, and it never does, and they never learn. It's pretty pathetic.
OTOH: It will be a real showstopper in the Trump Presidential Library. Trump can personally cross her name out and write his on it with his sharpie.
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