January 30, 2026
"Federal agents arrested the former CNN anchor Don Lemon late Thursday..."
"... on charges that he violated federal law during a Jan. 18 protest in St. Paul, Minn., against the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown, his lawyer said. The case had been rejected last week by a magistrate judge.
Attorney General Pam Bondi said that she had ordered the arrests of Mr. Lemon and three others in connection with the demonstration at a church.... Mr. Lemon, who was scheduled to appear in federal court in Los Angeles on Friday morning to contest the charges, has said he was reporting as a journalist when he entered Cities Church in St. Paul to observe a demonstration against the immigration crackdown...."
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As my mother would've said Well I would hope to think!
Couldn't have happened to a more deserving person...
Typical journalist: He thinks he has more 1st Amendment rights than the rest of us.
He's about to find out otherwise.
Who thinks it is a good idea to ambush a Church Service?
Don Lemon is a smarmy little asshole.
Don Lemon is not a journalist. He's a hack.
I knew he was racist, but I never thought he was KKK. You just never really know people.
Lemon could've used some of that FAFO parenting.
aid he was reporting as a journalist when he entered Cities Church in St. Paul to observe a demonstration against the immigration crackdown...
Clown nose on, clown nose off.
Also, who was he reporting for?
Klansman!
Dumb Klansman with no mask!
I liked that his lawyer said his work in Minneapolis was no different from what he's always done. I believe the intent of that message was different from my perception of it.
Typical journalist: He thinks he has more 1st Amendment rights than the rest of us.
Agreed, but he has to remember that he is no longer a journalist - he is just another YouTube dweeb not working for any respectable outfit and no layers and layers of fact-checkers and editors.
Dumb Klansman with no mask who puts himself on TV while he commits his crime!
The voices in his head
...[Lemon] said he was reporting as a journalist when he entered Cities Church in St. Paul to observe a demonstration against the immigration crackdown...
He's doing his best Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer routine. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I'm just a journalist...
https://youtu.be/2AzAFqrxfeY?si=S4YkUWEyLUB_F2mO
Ooops! Turns out, Don, other people have rights too.
Say it with me, Dems: no one is above the law!
I like how Lemon denies it was planned. Lying liar who lies.
Mr. Lemon has said he was reporting as a journalist when he entered Cities Church in St. Paul to observe a demonstration against the immigration crackdown
Everyone who said that about themselves at the J6 protests was still arrested, tried, and convicted.
Have to be pretty stupid when your only "defense" is one the courts have already rejected
This'll be like Smollett v2.0 except there's video. He's the Temu Jussie.
so, if i'm a "journalist", can i obstruct Abortion Clinics?
asking for a friend
Squeeze Don Lemon ‘til the juice runs down my leg.
…Down on this killin' floor
Dan Rather got away with it, and they never caught up with Charles Kuralt.
Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press
News for the ignorant and / or stupid:
In this context. "the press" means "the PRINTING press"
Freedom of "speech" gives you the right to SAY things.
Freedom of "the press" gives you the right to PRINT things, to make amore permanent record of your thoughts and share them with with people you will never encounter
See: Thomas Paine, etc et al
The First Amendment provides NO special protection for someone just because they have a particular job, and it takes a fundamentally stupid or dishonest person to claim otherwise
And good for Bondi - she couldn’t let his bullshit go unchecked.
About time.
I would like to think that he does some jail time, but I suspect this will just be an inconvenience and some minor legal fees that will be more than made up for by additional traffic to his website. If being a smarmy objectionable ass were a crime he'd never see the light of day again. Unfortunately it's more of a credential than a liability if you are on the proper side of the aisle.
Arrested for what is affectionately known as the KKK act. He sure looks different without the white sheet covering his smug face.
Grand Jury indicted him... legal as can be.. tough nuts Don... reap what you sow.
What a wuss.
Don already has a marketing team working pro bono to leverage his victimhood to new heights. St. Don of Our Newsroom can be backed through his new GoSendMe @*****.***
Steven Wilson said, "I would like to think that he does some jail time..."
That might not be the punishment for Lemon people think it is.
Don Lemon was a burnt-out nobody from a dying industry (on many nights, CNN viewers couldn’t have filled a good-sized college football stadium); after his arrest he’’ll be a progressive martyr with a rejuvenated career. And his arrest will also be wildly popular with MAGA, thereby demonstrating once again that Donald Trump is the master of win-win deals.
I saw a video of him asking a church-goer if the church-goer could understand why the demonstrators were angry. My answer would have been "Yes, I understand why they were angry. It is because they decided to be angry."
He's obviously lying about serving as a journalist is this incident.
This arrest will be a test as to how much daylight is between current Trump supporters and the average voter. Are the voters who swung to Trump in 2024 ready to watch the law enforced on left-wing political actors the same as the right?
Lemon is on camera saying that the whole point of the "protest" was to terrorize the people in the church.
So yeah, pretty open and shut case. If they try him someplace sane, he's done.
But unfortunately they will likely have to try him in Minnesota, where "You terrorized Christian children? My hero!" is the norm. Just ask Inga, who has repeatedly refused to condemn this very act over the last week.
I don’t know what I think of this.
I’ll wait to see what Turley and Dersh have to say
Lemon and his friends entered the church while a service was going on, and disrputed it. Imagine if Lemon had entered a synagogue while the Rabbi was performing a service!
Lemon wasn't working for a news organization at the time. We all know the Leftwing judiciary will free him, but its good he got arrested.
At least violence didn't break out.
Wilbur said...
“Typical journalist: He thinks he has more 1st Amendment rights than the rest of us.”
I think a better way to say it is: He thinks his 1st Amendment rights (that we all have) confer special privileges on him that the rest of us do not have.
Imagine if they entered a Mosque to disrupt the services ....
Lemon will be out and circling the Colbert/ The View later today.
If he committed some crime then he should be prosecuted. Given this adminsitration's penchant for using DOJ for "retribution" aginst political enemies, I would like to see the indictment and evidence before beginning to reach any conclusions.
I understand one element of the charges is use of force or threatened use of force. I find it difficult to believe that is true here. We'll see what the jury concludes. But why believe a Minnesota jury - almost as biased as one in D.C.
Sort of sucks that Trump can't be the prosecutor, judge and jury. Like his buddies in North Korea, Russia, China, Belarus, Qater, UAE, etc.
bagoh20 said...
“I knew he was racist, but I never thought he was KKK. You just never really know people.”
Don is much more white than black. If - as several on the left have said - whites are innately racist, then it’s logically inevitable that his inner klansman would come out.
Nate Broughty explains why another indictment is coming, basically a precursor to a plea deal: Plead guilty to F.A.C.E., do four months inside, pay the fine, face civil actions, OR wear the hood for good.
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Lemon was just wandering around with a box of donuts. What luck he ran into his ready-to-riot peeps, right there on the street... - IN FRONT of that dastardly church. Ready to push themselves in thru open doors - to harass and terrorize at will.
How dare anyone go to... church.
Your real god is the Demo-communist Walzians.
Hahahaha. The federal deep state thugs in this one move have done more to resurrect Don Lemon's career. No jury is going to convict these people. However, the trial will just be used to remind people that the Trump administration unleashed a task force of untrained steroid guzzling obese nicotine addicts onto the people of Minneapolis.
It's like the DNC has finally figured out how to bait Trump into doubling down on stupid.
With due respect to our hostess, she left out probably the most important part of the story.
Lemon was indicted by a grand jury empaneled, I believe, in Minnesota.
The No Agenda boys Curry & Dvorak think that Don Lemon is an FBI Confidential Informant. They have a number of reasons, not least is that he got the woman in charge to make a detailed confession on camera about the planning and execution of the incursion into the church.
IF he is a CI, not arresting him may have blown his cover. This may be an attempt to restore his "street cred"
John Henry
Jim231000 -
"Retribution"?
Another leftist cultist meme lie.
Perhaps you arrogant above-the-law leftists could stop rioting, harassing, threatening, terrorizing, committing arson, vandalizing?
nah - best to click your jackboots and repeat the leftist meme.
y'all are above the law, right?
This is another sign that the Trump administration would much rather sabotage their own policy goals in order to avoid any scrutiny over the non-release of the Epstein files
So much for Trump’s new tone. The Trump administration takes trespass and violation of ceremonies very seriously. They are the only ones allowed to do it.
How did Lemon know thete would be a "protest" at that church at that parties time? Just a journalist my ass!
If he gets off without any punishment, and I think hevwill, I'd like to see Don Lemon enter mosque with a bunch of "protesters" terrorizing a bunch of Muslims about their beliefs on gays and transgenders. C'mon you brave journalist!
Earnest Prole said...
< >Don Lemon was a burnt-out nobody from a dying industry (on many nights, CNN viewers couldn’t have filled a good-sized college football stadium); after his arrest he’’ll be a progressive martyr with a rejuvenated career.
The problem is he will be popular with the KKK wing of the Democratic Party.
He will be popular with people who think it is OK to invade and terrorize church services.
Dumb losers like you don’t understand why tolerating that kind of activity is a bad thing for society.
That's the cool thing about these radical communist stunts.
No matter what - arrest or no arrest - the good guys lose.
F the left.
Howard said...
Hahahaha. The federal deep state thugs in this one move have done more to resurrect Don Lemon's career. No jury is going to convict these people.
Don Lemon would be convicted in a heartbeat in 90% of US counties.
You don’t get out of your bubble much.
tommyesq said...
Agreed, but he has to remember that he is no longer a journalist - he is just another YouTube dweeb
You raise an important point, Tommy but I think you get it wrong.
What is a journalist for 1A purposes? Does it require association with some organization? If so, what organization? Does it have to be a large established org like the NYT Puzzle and Recipe service? What about a 5 years old, online only, organization with 20 employees and 1mm readers? Or a podcast, is Megyn Kelly still a journalist?
Or one guy like Don Lemon going out and finding stories to report?
I'm not a fan of Lemon but I think he, and the other examples I gave are "journalists" or "The Press" in the meaning of the 1st Amendment.
Doesn't mean that journalists of press have any special privileges. or should.
John Henry
Kak - watch this video and please tell me who the man is, in full face covering - breaking Capitol Building Windows?
Man in black tac and full face covering, is also trying to pick a fight with another man holding a US flag, who is not trying to hide his identity.
in case I was unclear, I do think Lemon is a "journalist" and I also think that he probably should have been arrested for his part in the incident.
John Henry
"...a demonstration at a church..."
Don't ever change, you dishonest clowns.
Far be it from me to say anything in the slightest defense of D. L.... But am I the only one wondering how this law can be constitutional? The first amendment begins "Congress shall make no law..." And I don't see how these pathetic losers disrupting the church service were part of Congress, were making a law, or enforcing a law.
"[Don Lemon] is one of the dumbest motherfuckers that has ever gotten on television" - Joe Rogan
jim5301 said...
If he committed some crime then he should be prosecuted.
An interesting attitude. Prosecution determines if in fact a crime was committed after presentation of facts for and against the accused in front of a fact finding panel. You seem to fall into the commie bucket of thinking prosecution is punishment for a crime previously determined to be committed which is certainly consistent with your attitude towards the Trump indictments.
On that same subject it's almost impossible to find any references to the fact that Lemon was indicted by a grand jury.
You are a moronic retard, Achilles, he said with all seriousness. You are the one living in a bubble. The federal court systems exist almost 100% inside blue bubbles. How do you like them Apples, bubble boy?
Yes, federal courts are heavily concentrated in major American cities, which tend to be more liberal (blue) than the national average, although the judicial philosophy of the judges appointed to these courts has become increasingly polarized along party lines.
"Imagine if they entered a Mosque to disrupt the services ...."
Exactly. Had James O'Keefe done exactly the same thing but in a mosque, the NYTimes would be baying for an arrest and 20 years in the ass-pounding federal prison.
"I understand one element of the charges is use of force or threatened use of force. I find it difficult to believe that is true here."
Yes, it will likely be difficult make the case here given the videos that I have seen but here is the thing- anti-abortion protestors have been arrested and convicted for less than what is on the church videos. "Threat of force" is ambiguous enough for prosecutors to work with.
Howard said...
This is another sign that the Trump administration would much rather sabotage their own policy goals in order to avoid any scrutiny over the non-release of the Epstein files
Don't be a Monica, Howard.
Didn't you get the word? Ixnay on the ilesfay. They don't want any more pics coming out of Clinton lying back next to a victime (blacked out face) with a smile like he just got the worlds best BillyJeff.
I for one want to see the entire trove of files released. I'll be VERY surprised if there is anything in there negative about the Trump. I'll be very surprised if there is anything in there that can be spun as negative.
I would like to hear why BJ Clinton allowed Epstein to hang a painting of him, in a blue dress and red pumps lounding seductively in the entry of the NYC townhouse.
Or, if BJ did object, why he had so little juice that Epstein could ignore him
John Henry
Whether Lemon is a "journalist" is, IMO, almost totally irrelevant. The question is the degree to which he participated in the invasion of the church which might include prior notification and planning of the action. There's no journalism exception to criminal law, and the KKK or FACE Act do not in any way criminalize documentation of actions contrary to their subjects by non-participants.
Notable that NYT described Lemon as a "former CNN anchor" and that Lemon "said he was reporting as a journalist."
They're not applying the "journalist" label, at least in the excerpt. That's the only thing that will matter. Whether people see him as a journalist or not.
Sweet. Another note of sanity.
Doj releasing 3 million pagss of eostein material
"Yes, federal courts are heavily concentrated in major American cities, which tend to be more liberal (blue) than the national average, although the judicial philosophy of the judges appointed to these courts has become increasingly polarized along party lines."
Not relevant as a general rule, Howard- what matters is the location of the jury pool. In this particular case, Lemon is safe since the jury pool will be 100% Minnesotans, most of whom live in the Minneapolis/St. Paul district. But if he were indicted in, let's say, Nashville, he would face far different jury pool.
You shall not be permitted to pray in front of an abortion clinic.
But if you are a rage-fueled democratic leftist communist - you can barge into any church - and terrorize and scream "You racists!" at will.
I'm sorry John Henry, your comment makes no sense. Donald Trump is in charge of the justice department. The justice department has been ordered to release the Epstein files. Where does Bill Clinton have any control over this situation? Are you saying that Donald Trump is trying to protect Bill Clinton?
Trump would have let Lemon off the hook if he had a choice.
He doesn’t have a choice.
If he doesn’t start throwing traitors and seditionists in jail you are going to see the next set of leaders rise and the seditionists will wish they had Trump back.
You don’t get to terrorize white people outside churches. The modern day KKK will not be tolerated. Your best outcome will be to stop and pretend you never meant it.
The last thing you want is for white people to start acting like what you have been calling them.
“I understand one element of the charges is use of force or threatened use of force.”
Use of force is not required. They’ve jailed little old ladies protesting at abortion clinics under this statute.
Absolutely Yancy... and if wishes were horses, beggars would ride. Or is my grandpa used to say if wishes were horse turds we would all be shitheads
Achilles, the Remington raider coward that he is thinks that by Trump threatening his enemies with jail that his enemies will fold like a cheap suit. Just the opposite is going to happen. Trump is stepping into a trap of his own making.
One would think that you people understand that. Look at how unsuccessful it was for the Democrats to persecute Trump and his minions.
For cowardly morons like you, history started 2 nanoseconds ago based on the latest utterance from a trump lackey
For most people an unexpected squeeze of lemon will elicit a frown--taste can be bitter. Squeezing this Lemon put a smile on my face this morning. You go Pam!
Howard said...
I'm sorry John Henry, your comment makes no sense. Donald Trump is in charge of the justice department. The justice department has been ordered to release the Epstein files. Where does Bill Clinton have any control over this situation? Are you saying that Donald Trump is trying to protect Bill Clinton?
LOL. Howard woke up on the retard side of the bed today.
There are laws that prohibit the government from releasing information gathered in investigations of people who were not charged.
If Trump had released the files they would demand he be charged for breaking those laws.
I agree Trump should just release the files and usher in the new era of fuck you DOJ rules. He should just leak the results of investigations like democrats did.
I know you are not thinking well right now and haven’t played this out to its natural end.
If Trump doesn’t start ignoring laws like democrats did and start arresting people who abused the system then we will elect the next president to be more like Pinochet.
Just remember that you asked for it by acting the way you are acting.
Thesis, antithesis, synthesis.
The left waged nonstop lawfare against Trump from his very start in politics...10 years ago now. The left pretended to be morally superior until Biden's autopen pardons admitted to Democrat lawbreaking.
Trump's efforts to turn the tables might finally, finally break the DEI heirarchy "racism, racism, racism" defense. It's about time.
Next up IMO: Go slow trench warfare in blue states akin to the post-Civil War Dixie culture that persisted until a few decades ago. "Let's bring back the Black Codes" they all said, and the black Democrats shouted "YES, SIR!"
Quite right, Howard.
It is the fascists/progressives who were screaming loudest for release of the files. Then some of the files were released and they boomeranged back on the same fascists/progressives with no impact at all on the Trump.
Word seems to have gone out, but apparently not to you, not to talk about them too much.
Nothing at all BJ can do about them except hide his head in shame.
I'm still waiting to see what Obama and Big Mike are up to in the files.
Per Grok today's release brings the total to 3.5mm of 6mm total. Find them at https://www.justice.gov/epstein
Peroni is not just a beer. Maybe we will find out if BJ has it?
John Henry
Christopher - What you said makes no sense whatsover. I don't think "If he committed some crime then he should be prosecuted" is a controversial statement. But I guess I'm wrong.
Howard said...
Achilles, the Remington raider coward that he is thinks that by Trump threatening his enemies with jail that his enemies will fold like a cheap suit. Just the opposite is going to happen. Trump is stepping into a trap of his own making.
One would think that you people understand that. Look at how unsuccessful it was for the Democrats to persecute Trump and his minions.
For cowardly morons like you, history started 2 nanoseconds ago based on the latest utterance from a trump lackey
Trump is the nicest person you will get from us.
You will be telling us all about how nice and conciliatory Trump was. Remember when Mitt Romney was a murderous NAZI?
I do.
People tend to be very careless when writing emails and text messages. I doubt Lemon is any different and didn't write some things that won't play well in a court room. Plus, we are talking about disrupting a church service. If you are Don Lemon, are you going to roll the dice that a woke judge or jury will let you skate where if you lose you have a very big problem, or are you going to cut some kind of deal where you don't wind up with a felony conviction. This is risk management 1.01.
jim-numbers,
I was getting ready to defend you, on the basis that "If he committed a crime" was just informal shorthand for saying "If there is credible evidence that he committed a crime", But since you seem to be doubling down I don't think I will do that
Howard said...
I'm sorry John Henry, your comment makes no sense. Donald Trump is in charge of the justice department.
Nominally, yes. Actually, not so much.
Leftists do not care at all that Bill Clinton flew on Lolita express 26 times - and spent time with his girls in the hot tub.
John henry said...
I'm still waiting to see what Obama and Big Mike are up to in the files.
Obama liked men. He won’t be in the files. Obama for all of his faults actually was one of the few people in DC who didn’t work with Epstein’s sponsors.
jim5301 said...
Christopher - What you said makes no sense whatsover. I don't think "If he committed some crime then he should be prosecuted" is a controversial statement. But I guess I'm wrong.
Lemon committed about a dozen crimes in his little video mostly because he conspired with the leaders of that mob before and after they entered the church.
That makes him complicit in the dozens of crimes committed by the vicious racist democrat mob that entered that church and terrorized the congregation there.
The best part is that Lemon - never accused of being intelligent - is on video bragging about the attendees being terrorized. What a maroon…
Roll away the stone… from between your ears, Howie.
Adjust your tampon Howard. The cramps will be over in a few days.
Mean while your little KKK heroes in Minnesota are going to be arrested and the people financing this insurrection are going to be rounded up.
Terrorizing churches is not popular in most of the country. Neither is spitting on ICE agents and protecting foreign criminals.
Back in 2023 Newsbusters (MRC) had a montage of the worst of Don Lemon
"Bye-Bye Don! The Worst of CNN’s Lemon"
https://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/geoffrey-dickens/2023/04/24/bye-bye-don-worst-cnns-lemon
"Federal agents arrested the former CNN anchor Don Lemon late Thursday..."
Federal agents doing the work state and local agents won't do.
When illegal protests give you Lemons, arrest the low-hanging fruit.
To decades now I’ve see way past fed up with the notion — popular among journalists, Democrats, and other wastes of oxygen — that journalists are, and rightly ought to be, above the law and immune from consequences for things they did or said or published. Don Lemon’s arrest is merely a very small step back from the abyss.
Thanks for the link, mfs - I forgot how ignorant and mendacious truly is. And I fear he believe what he spouts.
cfs, not mfs. Mea culpa.
You have unqualified immunity from prosecution for any crime as long as you have a microphone in your possession.
I believe the democrats wanted - and still do - to have a federal license to be a journalist, and only journalists can report information. All to block out misinformation; to arrest those without a license. Clearly, Lemon does think that 'licensed journalists' - a group that he is a member of - have many more rights than others.
Yes, ass-pounding Federal prison for Lemon. Everybody wins.
Even more interesting, the StarTribune reports that ICE is using facial recognition to identify the protesters, which the protesters are just now finding out. A woman was following an ICE vehicle, doing her "watching," and when the vehicle stopped an ICE agent came to her car and addressed her by name. Days later her TSA credentials were suspended without explanation.
Don't go poking bears.
Mother fracking stuff
jim5301 said...
Christopher - What you said makes no sense whatsover. I don't think "If he committed some crime then he should be prosecuted" is a controversial statement.
I didn't say it was controversial, I said it was wrong. The proper phrasing reflecting the way the justice system should work is "if he committed some crime then he should be *convicted*". That you want to double down on this is just further evidence that you are viewing decisions to prosecute as being instances of identifying a target and figuring out how to charge them or, in other instances, ignoring the plainly evident bad actions of favored persons.
You can jail the presidents atty you can convict him of a non ecystent crime you can extort a network for a quarter billion
"Journalists" report on things. "Participants" participate in things. If you're a "journalist" participating in an action, you're a "participant" also. And if the action is unlawful, you're a "criminal participant." He's a criminal participant.
Are anti-LGBT religious protestors who disrupt religious services ever prosecuted under that federal statute?
Days later her TSA credentials were suspended without explanation.
I'm not sure what this means. I think I know what it purports to mean - that her right to travel has been curtailed merely because she was peacefully protesting. If that's what happened, I'm against it
But if instead she ended up not getting TSA PreCheck on a boarding pass a few days after she was protesting, well, it says right in the PreCheck application that having PreCheck is not a guarantee that you'll be able to get in the short line on any particular occasion. And my goodness, despite almost always getting a PreCheck boarding pass, I still end up randomly screened with depressing frequency.
And if instead it turns out that she was "observing" in a way that was actually obstructing federal agents in the performance of their duties, then I think that might change the PreCheck calculus.
So basically I need more information. Facial recognition software - the horse is SO far out of the barn on that one that even though I'd like to object to it, what's the point?
Kirk Parker said...
Far be it from me to say anything in the slightest defense of D. L.... But am I the only one wondering how this law can be constitutional? The first amendment begins "Congress shall make no law..." And I don't see how these pathetic losers disrupting the church service were part of Congress, were making a law, or enforcing a law.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
Nothing in that bans Congres from making a law preventing people from disrupting Church services, so WTF are you talking about here, Kirk?
Howard: "Achilles.... thinks that by Trump threatening his enemies with jail that his enemies will fold like a cheap suit. Just the opposite is going to happen."
Hmmm. Compare the flip rates of R and D political prosecutees. Liddy, Rudy, Bannon, Stone, Navarro, Kraken, etc, etc, all took their lumps. Ollie North didn't, true. Some of the other Watergators might have testified against Nixon without the pardon. But for the most part Republicans are gangsta.
D's are a smaller data set, so harder to tell. True, the McDougals hung tough. But lots of lower-level Dem politicians roll over on city- and state-level pols; see, e.g., Chicago. And some of those guys were literal gangsters. Many of them also were from the Greatest Generation and immigrant communities with well-established no-rat codes.
So I think the postmodern blue-haired Dems, lacking any of that toughness and still getting over the shock that the rules apply to them, will roll over like Westminster showdogs. CC, JSM
Rendering, can you give us an example of "Anti-LGBT religious protestors" disrupting a church service?
Unless it's Muslims attacking Jews or Christians, in which case you cheer it on, I cannot think of any reason why "anti-LGBT religious protestors" would be disrupting a church service.
I can think of plenty of LGBT terrorists attacking church services though. And almost always, the government lets them do it.
But if you are an old lady or a minister who happens to say a prayer, silently, across the street from an abortion clinic: Well, it's a full scale FBI SWAT Raid at 3 AM, complete with shooting your dog. Ask the Joe Biden admin.
And I'm sure that you cheered on the government attacking people merely for praying next to an abortion clinic. All while you are all upset that Lemon here is being arrested for terrorizing children inside a church during services.
Jim Gust said...
A woman was following an ICE vehicle, doing her "watching," and when the vehicle stopped an ICE agent came to her car and addressed her by name. Days later her TSA credentials were suspended without explanation.
If you are accused of a misdemeanor you lose TSA PreCheck / Global Entry, and can't reapply until the case is finally dismissed.
Pre Biden Admin going after J6 protesters, this might have bothered me. Now?
Now, we all know there is no principle of any sort protesting right wing protesters from the Feds. So I can't get worked up about the Feds going after left wingers, no matter what they're doing, and no matter how the Feds go about doing it.
Actions have consequences, people. You took away our civil rights, that means you don't get any, either.
And yes, after the fires, the murders, the destruction of the George Floyd "protests", crimes for which essentially no one was punished, we on the right had a RIGHT to go and trash Congress on J6, after we decided Democrats stole the 2020 election. Sorry, but the basis of the George Floyd riots was you all deciding that "cops are murdering black males in massive numbers", a claim that's utterly and provably divorced from reality. The only justification for those riots was "your anger", and if you get to do that, then so do we whenever we are angry.
Which we were on J6.
Enjoy the death spiral
Readering - what?
"Are anti-LGBT religious protestors who disrupt religious services ever prosecuted under that federal statute?"
What? Care to give a real life example?
I'm going to call him - Don Lemon Westboro-kkk.
Howard,
Are you taking the same stupid pills as Kaki and Igna?
Really, I expected better from you.
Don Lemon really reminds me of Jesse Smollett.
Damn autocorrect.
I meant "Juicy Smolliet: as Dave Chappell called him.
Readering said...
Are anti-LGBT religious protestors who disrupt religious services ever prosecuted under that federal statute?
I think you mean Christians who pray outside of abortion clinics.
Time for you progressive fucks to be treated like you have been treating us.
Perhaps Readering is thinking of those Baptist extremists shouting and demonstrating in protest as military KIAs were being laid to rest? ISTR that they were required to stand x number of feet from the proceedings.
Seems quite relevant to this case.
GvB
Commie Videos and You a Law Professor said...
You have unqualified immunity from prosecution for any crime as long as you have a microphone in your possession.
This sounds like a fun game.
Howard likes it when the soyfuck blue hair nose ringers play that game.
These people will be thrown in jail or we are going to start playing games too.
Here's a clue for all the local who watch the MSM(D) - and buy their lies and half-truths and BS narratives.
Westboro Baptist and the Phelps family.
No one anywhere, of any political persuasion, approved of their abhorrent behavior.
But - they were allowed to protest due to the first amendment.
It's my understanding that they didn't actually physically harass anyone. Someone can correct me if I am wrong.
Sean Davis
@seanmdav
According to the retarded new legal theories of Democrat journos, if the 9/11 terrorists had just livestreamed their flights, the whole thing would’ve been kosher."
X- Mike Davis
"Journalists do not get license to conspire with fellow agitators, storm churches, and terrorize worshippers.
Those are serious federal crimes, under the FACE Act and Klan Act."
So I can livestream my murder of a leftist and according to all the media that means I'm immune from any charges?
Sounds.... interesting. If I didn't have any morals, this could be fun!
Don't go poking bears.
I recall that was the Biden Justice Department’s rationale for hounding the January 6 protesters.
Drudge's "Political World Rocked" made me laugh.
Kak/Richsockpuppet/paidActbluetrollaccount said...
"So much for Trump’s new tone. The Trump administration takes trespass and violation of ceremonies very seriously. They are the only ones allowed to do it."
Yes, if only Trump had just only let a paid leftist dark money org storm and assault a legally congregated religious assembly on their own private property in violation of the FACEAct...
Silly us!
Thanks for setting us straight with your neoKlan Quality Learing, KKKak!
jim5301 said...
"I understand one element of the charges is use of force or threatened use of force. I find it difficult to believe that is true here."
Here's the law:
"By force or threat of force or by physical obstruction, intentionally injures, intimidates, or interferes with, or attempts to injure, intimidate, or interfere with any person lawfully exercising or seeking to exercise the First Amendment right of religious freedom at a place of religious worship"
Note the "or."
The second one.
Earnest Prole said...
Don't go poking bears.
I recall that was the Biden Justice Department’s rationale for hounding the January 6 protesters.
Leftists (and Never Trumpers) have been warned for the last decade and half at least that their new rules could be applied in the other direction, and they did it anyway.
Just look at the text of FACE Act.
Independent journalist Julie Kelly, who has chronicled the fates of the J6 protestors in the judicial system, just listed several documented independent reporters who were tried and convicted for the crime of being invited to enter the capitol. Only the mainstream reporters on site were spared.
Steve Baker for one
It's not murder, not even homicide. It's aborting a "burden" of a process, totally ethical, and licit with liberal license.
Leftists (and Never Trumpers) have been warned for the last decade and half at least that their new rules could be applied in the other direction, and they did it anyway.
There’s nothing more delightful than when people are forced to live by their own new rules. My personal favorite is when Harry Reid had the bright idea to end the judicial filibuster.
That said, it works both ways. When Donald Trump suddenly adopts Gavin Newsom’s position on whether Americans have an inalienable right to bear arms, it just might end up biting us in the butt.
Have to be pretty stupid when your only "defense" is one the courts have already rejected
…our justice system is asymmetric. He does jail time I eat my hat…
“They probably don’t have any expectation that this prosecution will stick,” But they do know they will put Don Lemon through the grinder in the meantime.”
——Matthew Seligman, a legal scholar at Stanford Law School,
A friend of mine texted this morning with the following typo:
"Don't Lemon arrested." That caused me to use my Genmoji app to create a new emoji of a lemon with a circle-slash over it, which I used to reply, along with the comments:
"No one is above the law.
"Even fruits."
Putting Lemon through the grinder sounds zesty!
"Your extreme emotional investment in politics is very feminine."
Uh. Don't look in a mirror Howard.
It isn't retribution if your aim is to defend the civil rights of all Americans. In this case Baptist christers that you hate so much.
Don Lemon's fist hit somebody in the nose and violated their rights. Capiche?
Lemon has been hoping, since planning this flounce through the church service, that all the oxygen would fan the embers of his career. I doubt it will amount to anything more than a few more skid marks, though. He'll probably make the most of the camera time though - forewarned is forearmed.
“They probably don’t have any expectation that this prosecution will stick,” But they do know they will put Don Lemon through the grinder in the meantime.”
It won't stick because as we've seen over the past five years, leftists in places like Minnesota and Manhattan and D.C. see jury duty as nothing more than a weapon to harm their political enemies and reward their cronies and allies, and never mind the facts of the case. The bias these days would shame an all-white jury in a two-horse Alabama town trying a black man for raping a white woman in 1920.
Seems there are a few laws being broken by the protesters.
Here's what Grok has to say (I hope block quotes are allowed here)
Does MN restrict interruption or harassment at religious services?
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Yes, Minnesota has specific laws that restrict interruption, disruption, or harassment at religious services.The primary statute is Minnesota Statute § 609.28 (Interfering with Religious Observance), which directly addresses this:Subdivision 1 (Interference): It is a misdemeanor to use threats or violence to intentionally prevent another person from performing any lawful act enjoined upon or recommended by their religion (e.g., participating in worship or religious observance).
Subdivision 2 (Physical interference prohibited): It is a gross misdemeanor to intentionally and physically obstruct any individual's access to or egress from a religious establishment (defined as a building used for worship services by a religious organization and clearly identified as such, e.g., by signage).
This law protects against both violent/threat-based interference and physical blocking of entry/exit at places of worship. It does not broadly cover all forms of peaceful but disruptive speech inside a private religious service (as churches are private property and not public forums), but actions that rise to threats, violence, or physical obstruction are criminalized.Additionally, related statutes can apply in broader disruption contexts:Minnesota Statute § 609.72 (Disorderly Conduct): Covers disturbing an assembly or meeting (including religious ones) through fighting, noisy/offensive conduct, etc., if it alarms, angers, or disturbs others.
Minnesota Statute § 609.705 (Unlawful Assembly): Applies if three or more people assemble with intent to disturb public peace or act unlawfully.
they were allowed to protest due to the first amendment.
It's my understanding that they didn't actually physically harass anyone. Someone can correct me if I am wrong.
The "God Hates Fags" people didn't trespass on private property, assault anyone, or obstruct anyone's freedom of movement. They made a noisy and distasteful spectacle of themselves on public property, as was their perfect right. In fact, they were very shrewdly coached by the old man (an experienced lawyer) on how to bait the targets of their opprobrium into attacking THEM on public property without any legal justification, allowing them to sue for damages.
The left citing the 2nd Amendment is pretty pathetic (and ironic). Pretti was carrying illegally, because he didn't have his permit and ID on him. He was also committing various crimes.
Citing the 1st Amendment in this case is also pathetic and ironic, given they didn't care about it on on 1/6/21, and the federal law against disrupting religious services is intended to protect 1st Amendment rights, or more specifically to articulate whose 1st Amendment rights take precedent.
If you are accused of a misdemeanor you lose TSA PreCheck / Global Entry, and can't reapply until the case is finally dismissed.
My wife chirped her tires in frustration while passing a slow driver, was nailed by a cop she hadn't seen, pled no contest to a reckless driving citation, and lost her Global Entry for 10 years.
"In fact, they were very shrewdly coached by the old man..."
His kids were attorneys as well. They handled all those Westboro lawsuits "in house" as it were, and got stinkin' rich.
Well Hassayamper @ 3:59, it could because of what you claim.
Or, it might be, as Seligman adds, this strongly suggests “a politically motivated prosecution” adding that by ignoring the magistrate judge’s ruling, Trump and Bondi are demonstrating that they “don’t care about the law and don’t care about the facts. They care about prosecuting their enemies.”
And it could also be that the earlier judge’s ruling made many MAGAnuts mighty mad. Enter Hero Trump to snap his finger for Bondi to jump.
But at least I think we agree on one thing, nobody is really expecting a conviction.
Early this morning I told you the Big Sour Fruit was going to a get a second indictment. And so it has transpired. There maybe be two more enhancements coming next week.
Pretti was carrying illegally, because he didn't have his permit and ID on him.
Constitutional Carry is the idea that the Second Amendment bars governments from requiring permits to exercise a core civil right, bearing arms. The fact that you and the State of Minnesota disagree doesn’t make Pretti’s carrying any less Constitutional.
Earnest Prole said...
Pretti was carrying illegally, because he didn't have his permit and ID on him.
Constitutional Carry is the idea that the Second Amendment bars governments from requiring permits to exercise a core civil right, bearing arms. The fact that you and the State of Minnesota disagree doesn’t make Pretti’s carrying any less Constitutional.
Pretti didn't get shot because he was carrying a gun.
Pretti got shot because he was a violent thug that was involved in multiple altercations with ICE agents trying to do their job. He spit on them and assaulted them on multiple occasions.
Pretti got shot because he was assaulting people in a place where he shouldn't have been and he resisted arrest while armed.
Lemon would be better off pleading extreme stupidity. It's a highly convincing argument.
Earnest Prole said...
That said, it works both ways. When Donald Trump suddenly adopts Gavin Newsom’s position on whether Americans have an inalienable right to bear arms, it just might end up biting us in the butt.
Newsom or any other Democrat will impose their interpretation of the Second Amendment, and the First, and all the rest and the Federal Code to boot, regardless of what Donald Trump does or doesn't do.
Why is Congress not doing anything about this Constitutional Crisis?
This is also a reminder: Trump's authoritarian corruption is heavily enabled by a compliant GOP Congress. Prosecutions like this demand scrutiny from the House and Senate Judiciary Committees. The current GOP majority won't lift a finger to provide it. But a Democratic House can—and Democrats should make it crystal clear right now that this oversight is coming.
"A pro-life activist... has been convicted and sentenced to 90 days in jail for silently praying in a public area near a Michigan abortion facility...According to a petition filed July 28, Connolly never entered the abortion clinic, raised his voice or disrupted any activity. Described by law enforcement as “peaceful,” he was arrested while kneeling in prayer in a public common area"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pro-life-activist-jailed-for-praying-silently-outside-michigan-abortion-clinic-appeals-to-supreme-court/ar-AA1JJiY5
Why is no one bringing up the fact that Don Lemon is transforming into Urkel? With a touch of Charles Nelson Reilly.
Christopher - What you said makes no sense whatsover. I don't think "If he committed some crime then he should be prosecuted" is a controversial statement. But I guess I'm wrong.
All you need to say - if you're going to say anything at all - is, "It's wrong to storm a church and terrorize those inside."
That's it. You don't need to couch it with weasel words.
Unless you're required to defend every action by your leftist thugs, maybe you should sit this one out.
Newsom or any other Democrat will impose their interpretation of the Second Amendment, and the First, and all the rest and the Federal Code to boot, regardless of what Donald Trump does or doesn't do.
Sure, but when Trump joins forces with them it makes profound nationwide change far more likely.
Pretti didn't get shot because he was carrying a gun. Pretti got shot because he was a violent thug that was involved in multiple altercations with ICE agents trying to do their job. He spit on them and assaulted them on multiple occasions. Pretti got shot because he was assaulting people in a place where he shouldn't have been and he resisted arrest while armed.
Sure. Trump should have said that instead of echoing Gavin Newsom’s Second Amendment views virtually verbatim.
You have unqualified immunity from prosecution for any crime as long as you have a microphone in your possession.
The free speech argument is ridiculous, in my opinion. When Islamic terrorists decapitate people and film themselves doing it, "making a video" doesn't protect the underlying crime. Lemon was not in that church to worship, or even to peacefully visit. He was in there to disrupt the service, along with the rest of the jackasses. Filming it was integral to the crime, like the camera-man shooting child pornography. The camera or speech elements do not excuse the criminal actions. And if you are conspiring to participate in those criminal actions, you are indeed liable.
The law Lemon broke was introduced in the Senate by Chuck Schumer in 1993 and reintroduced by Ted Effin Kennedy in 1994.
Bill Clinton signed it.
Doesn't Lemon's claim in court that he was there to observe and report on the protest in the church pretty well damn the others involved by acknowledging that there was a protest in a church.
The Pro-Choice religion is a human rite performed for social, clinical, criminal, political, and climate progress, a wicked solution to relieve "burdens", and keep women affordable, available, reusable, and taxable while wielding a liberal license. #HateLovesAbortion
The catastrophic transition and violent cacophony were an authentic Lemon with an acerbic character.
“ Pretti didn't get shot because he was carrying a gun. Pretti got shot because he was a violent thug that was involved in multiple altercations with ICE agents trying to do their job.”
I’m trying to wrap my head around that justification.
Okay, so the agent is thinking while Pretti is being subdued; “buddy, we let you go the last time you messed with up so you know, enough is enough- bang bang, bang bang bang, bang bang, bang bang”.
As is so often the case, The Babylon Bee sums it all up nicely on X:
The Babylon Bee
@TheBabylonBee
Chilling: If They Can Arrest Don Lemon For Something As Simple As Breaking The Law, Imagine What They Can Do To You
Yes, very chilling.
I will just add that if Don Lemon's case goes before a jury it will likely be more than a year from now when all ICE raids in Minnesota will have been done for many many months. Folks' perceptions of fairness regarding events shifts with time and distance. And I think that even though Minnesota is blue, the people of Minnesota will look at the invasion of Church as something far beyond a legitimate protest when the passions of the moment have cooled.
Ronald J. Ward said...
“ Pretti didn't get shot because he was carrying a gun. Pretti got shot because he was a violent thug that was involved in multiple altercations with ICE agents trying to do their job.”
I’m trying to wrap my head around that justification.
Okay, so the agent is thinking while Pretti is being subdued; “buddy, we let you go the last time you messed with up so you know, enough is enough- bang bang, bang bang bang, bang bang, bang bang”.
Let me help you out since you are a retard.
Subdued is putting your hands behind your back and letting them put handcuffs on you.
Resisting is pulling your arms away from them and grabbing something at your waste.
Your problem is you are too stupid to know what simple words mean.
if life gives you rotten lemon
Send it down the river.
Lemon may have to live through some pre-trial steps, but the case is going to crash and burn. It’s all about the reality show theater of this administration. The Apprentice 2.0
Chilling.
Kakistocracy said...
Lemon may have to live through some pre-trial steps, but the case is going to crash and burn. It’s all about the reality show theater of this administration. The Apprentice 2.0
You don't even know what laws he broke.
You are just a stupid retard trying to pretty up jury nullification.
Don Lemon conspired with a mob of people to go into a church while people were praying and to terrorize and assault them. There are at least 4 laws he broke where you get extra jail time and he was on video conspiring with the leader of the mob before and after the mob attacked the church.
The case wont fall apart. He is on video committing the crimes. The only chance Lemon has is evil pieces of shit like you ignore the laws he broke.
Really, when you think about it, given the state of the judges and the courts in that region, the churchgoers would have been much better off just beating the living crap out of the invaders just as soon as they tried to isolate the parents from their kids in Sunday School. Their odds in court would be much better.
I wonder how long it's going to be before this concept is tested.
Ronald J. Ward said...
“ Pretti didn't get shot because he was carrying a gun. Pretti got shot because he was a violent thug that was involved in multiple altercations with ICE agents trying to do their job.”
I’m trying to wrap my head around that justification.
Okay, so the agent is thinking while Pretti is being subdued; “buddy, we let you go the last time you messed with up so you know, enough is enough- bang bang, bang bang bang, bang bang, bang bang”.
With Ronald the stupid just never stops.
He was still fighting, he wasn't subdued. We all know this, because you shit for brains all reported that he had his phone in his right hand.
Which meant his hand, the hand that had just reached back for his holster after a cop cried out "gun", was not under anyone's control, and was carrying a dark object that could easily be mistaken for a gun.
Then he got shot.
Which is good, because everyone who violently resists arrest should be killed. And that should keep on happening until the Left, and those loved by the left, understand at a visceral level that "resting arrest is a bad idea" and stop doing it.
So these pro-lifers sent some undercover journalists into a Planned Parenthood conference, posing as buyers of "fetal tissue." It's illegal to sell fetal tissue. The Planned Parenthood execs, drinking wine, were caught on tape saying how they could easily capture fetal tissue, anything you wanted, brain, feet, legs, eyeballs, it was all available. When the conversation turned to price, the PP lady said, "I'd like a Lamborghini."
When the journalists released the footage, the state of California charged them with 15 felonies.
If the pro-lifers had wrecked the conference and made it impossible to hear any of the speakers, then we could talk about crimes. That would be akin to what Don Lemon had done.
But there was none of that. It was 100% about silencing real journalists, and keeping the information from the American people. It took years but all the charges were finally dropped.
Kamala Harris, by the way, was the fascist D.A. who made the decision to arrest the journalists and charge them with multiple felonies in an entirely unconstitutional and illegal proceeding.
"The process is the punishment."
Kamala Harris was the D.A. who ordered these illegal arrests and prosecutions, back in 2015.
It took 10 years for California to give up and stop hounding the journalists. Kamala Harris went from D.A. to Senator to Vice-President to Nominee for President in that time span. It was only after her final campaign was crushed that California said, okay, we'll stop it now.
Are anti-LGBT religious protestors who disrupt religious services ever prosecuted under that federal statute?
When gay marriage was legalized, churches had to make the decision whether they would perform any gay marriages. My church is one of the 10 biggest Episcopal churches in the USA. My pastor decided that it would be up to the individual priest, whether he or she would perform a gay marriage. I love Chip, beautiful guy. So we've done a few gay marriages since then. Some people left our church, new people came into our church, the numbers stayed about the same.
It would be absolutely crazy to have people come in and disrupt a service at my church. That's not something that's ever happened, at my church. Or at any other liberal church. We would all be hearing about it and the rioters would be roundly condemned and ostracized as crazy animals.
The mainstream media is something like 99% pro-choice. They've done multiple surveys on it. Almost zero pro-lifers, even at places like FOX. The bias levels in the MSM are like something at the Ivy League. It's all Democrat propaganda, all the time, depending on the issue.
The Free Press, run by Bari Weiss, a pro-choice lesbian (recently put in charge of CBS), is now trying to accomplish moderate journalism. So, for instance, they just published <a href="https://www.thefp.com/p/why-are-so-many-british-women-getting:>Why Are So Many British Women Getting Abortions?</a>
Any loosening of the Pravda networks makes leftists insane. Wikipedia calls the Free Press "right-wing" now. Bari Weiss, and her wife, are both pro-choice Hillary voters (like Ann Althouse, who also gets demonized for being a right-winger). If you are a moderate liberal, you're on the right now, apparently.
Yes, there is crazy bias in the world. But it's not coming from Republicans, or the Trump administration. It's coming from the media networks that indoctrinate you into believing crazy things that are not true.
climate apocalypse
"Communism has never been tried"
unborn babies are not people
boys can become girls
girls can become boys
I don't know what a person is
I don't know what a woman is
Trump is a Nazi
Israel is responsible for a holocaust
The Jewish state engages in apartheid
January 6 is worse than 9/11
Trump is a rapist
Trump is a felon
This is what happens when your university or news room becomes a one-party state and there is no intellectual pushback to stupidity. You get dumber and dumber and dumber. And your audience gets smaller and smaller and smaller.
There is constant pushback on Trump when he, or anybody in his administration, says or does anything stupid. Did we see that on Joe Biden and his administration? How did an 82-year-old man suffering from dementia receive a complete pass in the Democratic primaries? And from the media?
Why Are So Many British Women Getting Abortions
The almighty Feds woke Don Lemon up in the middle of the night to arrest him . . . after two judges refused to charge him for attending and reporting on a protest against a Cities Church pastor who also headed up ICE and CBP activities for St. Paul. Bondi was just following the Boss Man's illegal orders again!
Greg @ 1017, says;
“Which is good, because everyone who violently resists arrest should be killed. And that should keep on happening until the Left, and those loved by the left, understand at a visceral level that "resting arrest is a bad idea" and stop doing it.”
Aside from how asinine and unlawful that is, the problem is that ICE agents have repeatedly been caught lying about impedance and resistance with case after case collapsing in the courtrooms. They can beat and kill American citizens with impunity and play the victim card. Bovine and Noem’s bold face lies to the American people moments after the Pretti shooting proved that.
terrorizing parishioners, that definitely qualifies
of course since most of the press had an NC 17 relation with Obama 'he's like a God' they would smell out heresy in a new york minute,
Ronald J. Ward said...
the problem is that ICE agents have repeatedly been caught lying about impedance and resistance with case after case collapsing in the courtrooms.
Bullshit. The cases have "failed" because dishonest leftwing scum have lied their way onto juries so the could block valid prosections
We've watched the videos, Ronald, stop trying to tell us not to trust our own lying eyes, because it won't work
Greg T.C.T.,
That's not how the Constitution is supposed to work -- it's states who get to legislate anything they want to (consonant with Common Law, I suppose) provided the Constitution doesn't prohibit them from doing so. The feds only have the powers that are specifically granted them.
Kirk:
1: No shit
2: WTF are you referring to? Protecting the border, and therefore immigration law, is clearly a power granted to the Federal gov't via the US written Constitution
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