December 18, 2025

"Many, of course, now live in fear of Pornhub not paying up and of being exposed. 'Great,' says another user, a teenager..."

"... who shouldn’t be on the site but is. 'You just try to carve out a safe space where you can learn to objectify women and then this happens,' he continues. 'I don’t know what my mum will say if she ever finds out.' And as yet another user tells us: 'Gleeful feminists will be all over this, like we need a lecture about patriarchy on top of everything else.' He doesn’t have much time for feminists. Whether they are first, second, third or fourth wave, what they all need, and have ever needed, 'is a good seeing-to if they’re not frigid, which, chances are, they are.' His wife, he adds, won’t be best pleased if she finds out, 'but, frankly, she’s brought it on herself by not allowing that choking thing. She needs to take a good look at herself. I think we all know where the blame truly lies. Most women, from what I’ve seen, are gagging to be choked.'"

Writes Deborah Ross, in "Oh no! How will Pornhub’s users cope with being exposed? A hacking group now has the details of 200 million premium users" (London Times).

That's why I read the London Times, new-to-me expressions like "a good seeing-to." 

67 comments:

tim maguire said...

My wife would be more upset that I was paying for it than that I was watching it.

Nice, though, that we get the obligatory "objectifying women" bit--one would think seeing women as full people would include seeing them as sexual beings.

Wilbur said...

So, this bloke's wife didn't cotton to be choked during sex? Imagine that.

Justabill said...

I seem to recall that years ago a researcher wanted to measure differences between men who looked at porn and men who didn’t, but couldn’t find a large enough cohort in the second category. But two hundred million premium users? That’s crazy.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

LOL so glad to have no part in that!

Quaestor said...
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Quaestor said...

When did The Times and The Sun trade editors?

rhhardin said...

It's not objectifying women, it's just jerking off. In response to one way or another not getting any. So it relieves the wife of the problem, which presumably she's not interested in anyway.

One pussy is as good as another. A relationship starts from that - no need for a special pussy - to make the partner magical, if other things fall into line so as not to defeat it.

rhhardin said...

No idea what pornhub premium might be.

Clyde said...

I think “a good seeing-to” is akin to “roger her roundly.”

rhhardin said...

Part 3 of 3
alteration and identification in fecundity--beyond the possible and the face--constitutes paternity. In paternity desire maintained as insatiate desire, that is, as goodness, is accomplished. It cannot be accomplished by being satisfied. For Desire to be accomplished is equivalent to engendering a good being, to be goodness of goodness. The structure of the subjectivity's identity that is produced in *Eros* takes us outside the categories of classical logic. To be sure, the I, identity par excellence, has often been caught sight of on the margin of identity, an I profiling itself behind the I; thought hearkens to itself. Muse, genius, Socrates' daemon, Faust's Mephistopheles speak in the depths of the I and guide it. Or else the freedom of absolute commencement turns out to be obedience to insidious forms of the impersonal and the neuter: Hegel's universal, Durkheim's social, the statistical laws that govern our freedom, Freud's unconscious, the existential that sustains the existentiel in Heidegger. All these notions represent not an opposition between diverse faculties of the I, but the presence behind the I of a foreign principle which is not necessarily opposed to the I, but which can assume this enemy demeanor. To these influences stands opposed M. Teste, who wishes to be *nothing but myself*, at the absolute origin of all these initiatives, without there being any personality or entity behind him prompting his actions. If our exposition must introduce a notion of subject distinct from this absolute I of M. Teste, it does not lead to the affirmation of an I behind the I, unknown to the conscious I, and fettering it anew. It is precisely as itself that the I is, in the relation with the Other in femininity, liberated of its identity, that it can be other on the basis of self as origin. In the I being can be produced as infinitely recommencing, that is, properly speaking, as infinite. The notion of fecundity does not refer to the wholly objective idea of the species to which the I comes as an accident. Or else, if one prefers, the unity of the species is deduced from the desire of the I which does not renounce the event of origin in which its being is effected. Fecundity is part of the very drama of the I. The intersubjective reached across the notion of fecundity opens up a plane where the I is divested of its tragic egoity, which turns back to itself, and yet is not purely and simply dissolved into the collective. Fecundity evinces a unity that is not opposed to multiplicity, but, in the precise sense of the term, engenders it.

(Levinas, Appendix to Totality and Infinity, eros from the male point of view. Notice no objectification, just the opposite.)

pacwest said...

200m premium?? That's gotta amount to a lot of money!! Not sure, but the profit margins must be through the roof!

CJinPA said...

Is this a gag? Can't tell if these are real comments. At one point she writes "However, one user we speak to..." Spoke to? How?

I understand they can't link to the website, where maybe folks are commenting, but the column starts out with humor and never indicates a shift to reality.

Or maybe I can't see what's she's up to because my eyesight is bad for undisclosed reasons.

Wince said...

That article reads like a parody site.

In any event, what would prevent a hacker from adding enemies to the purported list of PH clients before releasing it?

Achilles said...

Online porn should be banned.

That includes written porn for women.

I wouldn’t ban it on moral grounds. I would ban it on the grounds that pornography if allowed will eventually lead to the extinction of the human race.

No animal could survive as a species with something like this available to them.

Joe Bar said...

Uh. Are we sure that's not a Babylon Bee article?

Mr. T. said...

Groomer gadfly and PedoFredo hit hardest...

Achilles said...

rhhardin said...
It's not objectifying women, it's just jerking off.

It is like jerking off, but it results in 4 to 10 times as much dopamine released in the male brain.

And it is objectifying. That is how men do sex. We aren’t really in it for the emotions. Men gain the biggest hit off the penetration.

For women it is about the emotion. But even there you have to ask what is objectification because the porn they read and the emotions they like to feel are interesting.

Jupiter said...

I'm getting stuck on the idea of learning to objectify women. I don't feel that objectifying women was something I learned. Some women are just a lot more objectifiable than others, and a guy notices that. I mean, they practically objectify themselves, just standing there.

Derve said...

Pornhub features plenty of male bodies, gay sex and multiple people hooking up too. Plenty of diversity , like real life sex. You need not subscribe to see plenty of porn. It's not just women on display. (I wonder who can't get off from the edited videos and pays for the full content myself.)

Achilles said...

Wince said...
That article reads like a parody site.

Reality is worse.

Visit the AO3 fan fiction site. Read some of the reviews about the books.

If you write a book about an older man and a younger man it is assumed the book is about “BL.” BL books are showing up in mainstream book stores because BL books are popular especially in east Asia.

The cray cray part is that it is women who read BL books.

Nothing about porn makes sense.

Money Manger said...

Achilles is correct. Total Fertility Rates are plummeting globally, particularly in Asia. Pornhub and its ilk are the reason why.

Derve said...

I think a lot of the men here (it's 90 percent men or more -- the women have long left) are old and don't have much sex drive anymore. You're not the market demographic.

Money Manger said...

BTW, as a revenue generating business, Pornhub is a minnow compared to the OnlyFans whale.

PM said...

Huh. I would've thought more.

Derve said...

People can still afford porn. Most younger people without "help" can't afford relationships, partners or families. You old boomers are unaffected by affordability issues. You have too much...

Achilles said...

Jupiter said...
I'm getting stuck on the idea of learning to objectify women.

Pair Bonding is a choice and both men and women must choose it.

If you are a mate you are a partner.

If you are a cow in a harem you are an object. Modern women have chosen by and large to be cows in a harem.

Derve said...

Better to practice affixiation orgasms with a partner than alone. Remember the dead kids experimenting with the choking game? Some say Robin Williams wasn't intent on suicide either. Depriving the brain of oxygen gets people off sexually. You don't have to try it, but it's about pleasure, not pain. Hth.

Derve said...

Better to practice affixiation orgasms with a partner than alone. Remember the dead kids experimenting with the choking game? Some say Robin Williams wasn't intent on suicide either. Depriving the brain of oxygen gets people off sexually. You don't have to try it, but it's about pleasure, not pain. Hth.

FormerLawClerk said...

Shagadelic, baby? Ever heard that one, Ann?

Getting a leg over her.

Fancy a bit of slap-and-tickle?

And for you America's Dad fans out there ... "Give her a food rogering."

FormerLawClerk said...

"Pornhub and its ilk are the reason why."

Sorry, Money Manager ...bacon-double cheeseburgers are the reason why American chicks can't get laid.

Psota said...

None of those quotes sound like anything a real person would say. They are either jokes/sarcasm or made-up.

Derve said...

Lol @ achilles. You know any women? Other than your mum and sisters? The puritan ship has long sailed. Everything evolves.

Derve said...

You should run the picture John posted in this blog's infancy of his bespectacled mum with the huge leaking breasts. He got it even back then... what draws eyeballs and sells. Sure he's not your stepson though? *Wink

Derve said...

Men like meat.
Women like sugar.
(Hth flc @ 1101.)

Derve said...

Lol @ food rogering
Good misspelling, but...no.

John henry said...

Clyde said...

I think “a good seeing-to” is akin to “roger her roundly.”

Would that be like a jolly roger?

Silvio has some thoughts "I've seen a lot of women. That one? Aint getting laid"

John Henry

mccullough said...

My guess is that the dudes who watch porn have more kids

John henry said...

"Story of O", Ann Rice's "Beauty" series, "Shades of Gray", bodice rippers (Romance novels) and others in that vein make PornHub look pretty tame. A bit of choking would probably be considered taking the day off? "Choke me? You limp-dick pussy. That's all you got?"

The audience for these books is overwhelmingly female, living out their fantasies.

Grok tells me that according to industry surveys, 46% read at least 1 per week with many more reading at least 1 per month.

84% are women.

John Henry

stunned said...

"She needs to take a good look at herself."

She needs to take a good look at him. And file for divorce.

Bushman of the Kohlrabi said...

Free porn is the worst kept secret on the internet. I’m amazed anyone would actually be paying for it.

bagoh20 said...

"For women it is about the emotion."
That can only mean she's thinking about someone else.

RCOCEAN II said...

A Rabbi is part owner of Pornhub. Its part of our Judeo-Christian values.

RCOCEAN II said...

Why shouldn't all the wankers be exposed? After all, there's nothing wrong with it. Right?

Saint Croix said...

Why would anybody pay for pornography?

I think some of these sinners need to tamp down on the lust and pump up their greed a little. Why would you buy the pornographic cow when the porn milk is free?

"Honey, why is there a cow in our backyard?"

Saint Croix said...

"I need a lot more milk than normal."

Saint Croix said...

'You just try to carve out a safe space where you can learn to objectify women and then this happens,'

Hello, he's a smart ass kid.

London Times Oblivious To Satire

Run that headline.

Saint Croix said...

A Rabbi is part owner of Pornhub.

You keep saying this. Name him.

Vance said...

Read an article the other day saying that the newest generation is actually pushing back strongly against porn. I hope so!

Don't know if I believe the article though.

Saint Croix said...

True story. I knew a woman whose son "borrowed" her credit card. Or maybe she let him use it, I can't remember. Anyway, he used it for a subscription to Pornhub, or something similar. And she spent a lot of hours on the site trying to cancel her subscription.

Saint Croix said...

Most women, from what I’ve seen, are gagging to be choked.

These are obviously comical lines. Gagging to be choked? Come on.

new headline...

Many, of course, are cracking jokes now that they might be exposed.

oh no, I've seen the porn!

and my name's on a list

I guess there are a few men who are shameful and secretive about their heterosexual sexual desires. And terrified of exposure. Not as many as you ladies might think.

Are there no men at the London Times? Maybe you could find a man who has seen porn before, and he could edit your article and remove the ridiculous parts.

Saint Croix said...

It is like jerking off, but it results in 4 to 10 times as much dopamine released in the male brain.

Are you citing A.I. for this?

Porn causes more dopamine than sex?

I scoff openly. Where's the science for this?

Fred Drinkwater said...

PornHub comment threads are well-known for their satire and off-topic-ness. They are frequently quoted on Reddit.

Fred Drinkwater said...

Which is how I know this.

Iman said...

I don’t know… Reddit comments or Pornhub comments… either way a race to the bottom… no pun intended.

Iman said...

“A Rabbi is part owner of Pornhub.

You keep saying this. Name him.”


Okay… I go with Rebbe Schvantz Strokavitch.

Not Illinois Resident said...

Already saw this movie on Netflix...

JaimeRoberto said...

"Why buy a cow when the milk is free?" applies to porn sites too.

Amadeus 48 said...

The even more loutish and chav version of the phrase is "a proper seeing to".

Deborah Ross is a Brit columnist writing on social matters and mores. She is the regular movie reviewer for The Spectator magazine. She always gives good value. She is a bit like Maureen Dowd, except, unlike Dowd, she is amusing.

W.Cook said...

I'll take "made up quotes that were invented by the author" for $1000, Alex.

Achilles said...

Saint Croix said...

It is like jerking off, but it results in 4 to 10 times as much dopamine released in the male brain.

Are you citing A.I. for this?

Porn causes more dopamine than sex?

I scoff openly. Where's the science for this?


Of course you do. You like to scoff at things. You get dopamine from it.

Actual sex leads to more prolactin and oxytocin release upon consummation.

Masturbating to porn leads to repeated dopamine surges just because users tend to click on multiple videos and doom scroll. Men in particular have trouble with this because it is the initiation of the act that leads to the biggest response. Every new video results in novelty for the male brain.

Masturbating to Porn withholds the release of the other hormones that result in satisfaction.

stunned said...

St. Crocs is a retard. I wouldn’t stoop so low as to explaining anything to him. He is too stoopid to google.

RCOCEAN II said...

"You keep saying this. Name him."

If I'm always "saying it" - you know I've named him. Read harder - or google it. You've done the mandatory "pushback" but a trollish "links please" is lame.

Rosalyn C. said...

I looked up that rabbi when I saw that mentioned elsewhere. He studied at a yeshiva and was ordained but then immediately went to law school. He has never served as a rabbi at any congregation nor in any yeshiva. So emphasizing his professional identity as a rabbi is technically true but misleading. It is probably helpful and titilating fodder for the usual anti-semite(s) getting his rocks off. There are many different kinds of porn apparently.

Saint Croix said...

Masturbating to porn leads to repeated dopamine surges just because users tend to click on multiple videos and doom scroll.

What?

I have literally never heard of the masturbation doom scroll.

This seems like the wackiest scientific study ever. Do you have a link?

I googled "masturbation doom scroll" and that was funny as shit.

Saint Croix said...

I looked up that rabbi when I saw that mentioned elsewhere. He studied at a yeshiva and was ordained but then immediately went to law school. He has never served as a rabbi at any congregation nor in any yeshiva. So emphasizing his professional identity as a rabbi is technically true but misleading. It is probably helpful and titilating fodder for the usual anti-semite(s) getting his rocks off. There are many different kinds of porn apparently.

Thanks, Rosalyn. I appreciate it.

Saint Croix said...

Masturbating to Porn withholds the release of the other hormones that result in satisfaction.

I think you're making stuff up.

How Does Masturbation Affect the Brain?

Old and slow said...

These quotes are obviously satire. There is no chance it is anything but pure comedy, and pretty well done. One interesting distinction between what men and women choose when selecting porn is that women more often gravitate to extreme degrading content than men do.

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