It's poor form to make fun of somebody for their looks but I do think it says something about the current state of affairs that one can look like this and write for Vogue. https://t.co/BXcxHe1rfg pic.twitter.com/H5zTIpceIz
— Jo (@junker_jo) December 31, 2025
Clicking on the author's name, I see that Specter has lots of writing credentials, including a book called "More Please: On Food, Fat, Bingeing, Longing and the Lust for 'Enough'" (commission earned). That sounds like the sort of writing that would appeal to Vogue readers and serve their interests well.
So what is there here to make fun of, that she's fat but works for Vogue, where the models are usually quite thin? I'll bet the majority of the readers are fat and that a majority of the unfat readers worry about getting fat. I'll bet the models are obsessed with fighting fat. Fat is a big subject in the Vogue zone of interest, and who's better than Emma Specter at writing about it?
Or is "junker jo" making fun of the fashion? I think the fashion is perfect! Looks like something you'd feel happy and comfortable wearing while female and fat, and the method of putting things together reminds me of those "Look of the Week" fashions we were talking about yesterday. It's really important to show women ways to dress that don't seem to say: First, get thin and maybe you'll be able to wear this.
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Frumpy, dumpy, and libtard. Everything that Brigitte Bardot was not.
"Frumpy, dumpy, and libtard. Everything that Brigitte Bardot was not."
Brigitte Bardot got fat!
We need to bring back fat shaming.
Well I’ve never opened the pages of Vogue magazine in my life, but I was dragged to see The Devil Wears Prada with my wife, and I’m certain Miranda would not approve.
"Brigitte Bardot got fat!" Well, that's a relative metric. There's fat, and then there's fat.
Here's a picture of Bardot not long before she died. I think she looks great, but she got old and she was fat. I'll bet she would have died sooner if she didn't have that extra fat. It is part of the natural human body.
Specter has way too much, but still, it is the evolved natural human body that stores fat and that wolfs down food when food is available. You have to fight that these days, when there's way too much food, but it's a natural and healthy problem for us.
I read every issue of Vogue for 2 years. It was my job! Back in the 70s.
I also read Field & Stream, Grit, US News & World Report, and Family Circle.
For an ordinary person - heavy set or otherwise - it is a fine outfit. For a person who writes for a fashion magazine - heavy set or otherwise - the bar is higher.
So you were essentially paid to sit in a 1970s medical waiting room all day. At least you were spared from reading Highlights.
At least you were spared from reading Highlights.
Goofus and Gallant was the shiznit.
That picture of BB at 91 does not show a fat woman. She looks perfectly fine, well proportioned, naturally lovely and stylish still. That fashion magazine writer on the other hand looks like a sloppy hog. The tweeter is absolutely correct about the decay of standards in writing for a fashion magazine while dressing like a disheveled dyke. Nobody trusts a skinny cook, either.
So, if Trump had mentioned that Rob Reiner had made a few entertaining movies before criticizing him it would have been ok?
So, she's against fat-shaming, but totally gung-ho on opinion-shaming? Even to the point of pseudo-virtuously "mourning" for Bardot, but still/never "absolving" her. I suppose for the unforgivable sin of having opinions different from hers. Pop quiz: what party does she vote for?
She must be a great writer as she wouldn’t get past the first interview with that outfit (or similar). Health issues await.
As for Bardot looking fat in the referenced photo, she’s somewhat heavy in that photo, but not a whale.
If the left can criticize Trump for his comments on Rob Reiner’s death, I think a Vogue journalist can be equally criticized. Ugliness comes in many forms.
It's a bit like if you found out someone who looked like Eustace Tilley was writing for Field & Stream. I think she probably feels more comfortable working from home.......I don't think BB's right wing views are anywhere near as extreme as the left wing views of, say, Jane Fonda. If Fonda ever dies, it will be treated like the passing of Mother Theresa. There are countless adorable baby seals who have ever reason to be grateful for BB's existence. That writer probably doesn't even eat cage free eggs.
I'm not here to say anything about the political wisdom of Brigitte Bardot.
Of course not — she was right and the European elites were, and still are, quite wrong.
Here's a picture of Bardot not long before she died. I think she looks great, but she got old and she was fat.
Bardot was overweight per BMI’s crude measures, but Emma Specter is morbidly obese and writes for Vogue but carries a cheap, unstylish, purse and dresses like a frump.
AA, just curious: Did you enjoy reading Grit? Was it a complete chore? Somethinh in-between?
I still do not understand why anything Bridgette Bardot said was incorrect.
And yes, a writer for a for a big fashion magazine should be more fashionable.
Well, at least Bardot didn't become pathetically naive. You are more concerned about valorizing fat thighs that the enslavement, forced rape, murder of raped and other women, Islamic murders and oppression of free speech opposing their behavior in Europe, attacks on Jews by Islamists, throwing gays like your son to his death if he ever went there, rape of little boys and girls, than you are about enforcing your increasingly irrelevant views about a stupid fashion magazine? You've lost it. On purpose, I suspect. I hope.
I saw the picture of BB. She’s 91. She’d been in the hospital.I’d like to see a picture of Specter when she’s 91 if she makes it with all that fat.
Best opening scene in a TV series ever.
Sam: chuckle chuckle "ladies love their magazines" chuckle chuckle
Don Draper: "Yes they do"
Within the context it’s pretty clear the comment was about her lack of fashion but it’s fun to shame fat shame-ers so let us make it all about her weight…
Jeez, most sports writers can't throw a spiral or hit a three.
What's the old saying ? "the sign that points the way to Boston doesn't have to go there".
Ugliness comes in many forms.
Such as, for example, reflexively shitting on someone's opinion about Muslim immigration because that is what one has been trained to do without thought or consideration?
Holy carp Vogue is supposed to be the epitome of couture. Any one of those street people in NYT did better. Imagine if you were a surgeon who fainted at blood or a peanut farmer allergic to peanuts or a free speech advocate that censors for content…
It's nice to hear that everyone is in such a good mood looking forward to the new year. It's a myth, you know, that fat protects old people. What causes the most rapid downfall of the elderly is the loss of muscle mass. Remember folks, fat does not store glucose like muscle does. Muscle is also a proxy for activity and resistance training which increases bone density. Also being well muscled likely means that you're not going to fall but if you do fall your bones are better protected because they are stronger and contained within a much more vibrant sheath of fascia. In addition if you are an older person who is well muscled you probably have better balance mental and a much higher level of social activity. Brigitte Bardot looks awful in that picture from a few years ago the puffy face of a habitual drinker and the chunky body of someone who enjoys dessert just a little bit too much. Sounds like she had an awful time of it in her remaining years.
The lefty world, tout de monde, accuses BB of Islamophobia. If that same world was willing to study Islam's doctrines and how they have been consistently applied for 1400 years - up to and including today - they too would have a fear of Islam. But they wouldn't be suffering any sort of phobia as a phobia is an irrational fear.
Who has pushing body positivity not us
Same vogue who flacked for the exiled asmaa assad
How fake can they be?
The sausage-making analogy might fit writers and their work. Here, though? Best to look away from both - pure garbage in, garbage out.
Beautiful thin girls don't work for Vogue. They don't work at all. Don't have to.
Sorry, there will be no absolving Specter for being fat.
It would a parachute sized amount of fabric
Diana Vreeland is turning over in her grave. The ex-empress and patron saint of Vogue famously quipped, “elegance is refusal.” Looks like Emma hasn’t internalized that timeless and essential nugget of wisdom. Other nuggets have taken over, shall we say.
Have you ever listened to a voice on radio or You Tube and unconsciously imagined what they looked like?
When you actually see what they look like, it is always weird. Emma Spector is also weird, not just because she is morbidly obese.
What do the Vogue advertisers who sell slinky clothes for skinny women think about this?
It's like I were to be paid for my incisive commentary on how to properly dunk a basketball.
Bardot isn't fat in that picture, she's old and looks pretty in shape. The journalist is fat, and she's in no position, given her past pronouncements, to be getting all judgy on other people's viewpoints. I think her fashions are quirky and a bit contrived, but I don't see it as a problem worth forming an opinion on - that's her business, like being fat.
If that’s the look that Vogue is currently pushing then maybe it’s time they faded away—like French culture. They get what they wish for.
Sure you like it. But the magazine itself sold the false image. Not the cover models. Not the fashion spreads. Anna Wintour, she was the one in whom Vogue was personified, to the point the barely disguised version of her in The Devil Wears Pravda demands her subordinates look and dress that way to earn her favor.
It's difficult to do irony nowadays but that X post is a great example that it can still be done. I enjoy mocking the elite creeps in high society. They deserve mockery.
If BB was criticizing Islam on the grounds of animal abuse, well... how is that racist? It seems more racist *not* to criticize them because.. well, why exactly is it wrong to criticize people who abuse animals if they belong to certain groups?
It reminds me of that lady who said that she worked against human trafficking, but was not going to comment on the trafficking situation on the southern border because it would "help Trump."
She could hide that body better beneath a burqa. Maybe that’s her secret wish?
A good case that Islamic practices do not lead to animal abuse would seem the correct response to BB, but I never seem to see that case made. Personally, I have no idea what the facts are.
"So you were essentially paid to sit in a 1970s medical waiting room all day. At least you were spared from reading Highlights."
How do you know what I didn't read? I think there were about 70 magazines in our monthly report.
I just mentioned Vogue and then a handful of others that I thought represented things that are as far away from Vogue as possible. The furthest thing from Vogue that I read every month was, if I am not mistaken, Grit.
As for Bardot's "Islamophobic and far-right apologia", why did France cancel their traditional New Year's Eve celebration on the Champs Elysee this year?
Once more, it's all part of the sausage making process.
LOL - almost every gets old and fat. So Bardot got fat. You either get fat over 60 or you look like a rail-thin "social x-ray". Nobody stays 40 forever.
And the fat Yenta is the picture isn't just fat - she's ugly. Inside and out. Why do we always have to listen to these commissars claiming to have some sort of moral authority over us.
People who sit themselves up as Queens of society telling who we should like or dislike, set themselves up to be mocked for their looks.
Are we sure this writer isn't trans? "They" sorta look like it.
A spectre is haunting Vogue—the Specter of Radical Islam.
"Sure you like it. But the magazine itself sold the false image. Not the cover models. Not the fashion spreads. Anna Wintour, she was the one in whom Vogue was personified, to the point the barely disguised version of her in The Devil Wears Pravda demands her subordinates look and dress that way to earn her favor."
Yeah, well, her era is over, and when I was reading Vogue, her era had not yet begun, and yet the era of the iconic Diana Vreeland had ended. I was there in the Grace Mirabella era.
The new editor is Chloe Malle, the daughter of Candice Bergen and Louis Malle. She's 4 months into her role. We'll see what she does. She's 40.
Too much of anything of one's self - fat, makeup, fashion - makes a caricatured mockery of the same person's criticism of others especially when the criticised is famous for a trait that is the opposite of one's own ugliness.
I remember Grit from the days of my youth and ads in the back of Boys Life.
Sell subscription and win a. 22 rifle. I wanted to sign up to get the rifle. Parents would not let me. They did care about the rifle but my father thought the subscription were a SC.
I don't think I've ever seen an issue or met someone who has until now.
John Henry
umm..
she's not Just fat, she's obese..
she's not Just obese, she's ugly.
i'm speaking as an ugly obese man
(i'm at 237.9lbs to close this year, down from 374.4 three years ago)
"AA, just curious: Did you enjoy reading Grit? Was it a complete chore? Somethinh in-between?"
That job was very much like blogging. Endless new material flowed in and we read out interesting things and made observations and jokes. We loved Grit because it came in from a particular place with news and insights into American people we did not know. Every morning's mail brought its own mix of reading material and it was pretty fun to page through and mark up for the report, so we had lots of time to just bullshit about whatever we wanted. Mostly it was me and 2 other young women working on the thing and we made the most of the oddball opportunity.
Did you read "The National Lampoon" too? That was our go-to in high school.
A reply to Vogue on X, via Instapundit:
Amy Curtis
@RantyAmyCurtis
Oh, go fuck yourselves.
Bardot was right about all of it.
I note that in Germany a woman was given a stiffer sentence for referring to her rapist as a “pig” than the rapist received for his crime. Elitists telling the middle class and working class women precisely where they stand.
I generally read people who are much better at things than I am, so that I can learn how to be better at something, or at least learn what it's like to be better. If they obviously are not better at it, I don't trust the source. I don't know, but I assume Vogue is a place you go to learn about looking good, no?
You would think so
clunky shoes, sweat pants, a denim smock; and pudgy hands..
OH! and; squinty eyes and a baseball cap..
nothing screams Fashion Magazine, like THAT!
She is a perfect representation of Vogue.
I purchased endless copies of Family Circle, picked out from the magazine stands at the grocery store check-out areas.
I'm guessing most people mourning Bardot aren't particularly concerned about her political views. She was a beautiful woman who was better known for her romantic entanglements than her acting or singing career. Most women, including the woman who wrote the article in question, don't get to be Bardot and like most men I never got to be Roger Vadim. It's fine.
Interesting Wikipedia article on Grit.
Also, per Grok it had a larger circulation than NY times in 1920 (350m vs 300m) and 1950 (700m vs 600m)
Grit peaked at 1.5mm in 1969 (940m NYT)
John Henry
Impressive gilbar! It's a hell of a lot harder to lose weight than put it on.
People who are morbidly obese should be shamed for being morbidly obese and treated for the disease that it is.
If someone insists on being fat then they should be in a halfway house for crazy people until they don't want to be fat anymore.
We are doing no favors to anyone by letting them live like that.
gilbar said...
umm..
she's not Just fat, she's obese..
she's not Just obese, she's ugly.
i'm speaking as an ugly obese man
(i'm at 237.9lbs to close this year, down from 374.4 three years ago)
This accomplishment should be celebrated.
As Redd Foxx said, beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes clean to the bone.
"Jeez, most sports writers can't throw a spiral or hit a three."
I assume most athletes can't write, and are already better paid. The athlete doesn't want to be a writer.
From the article written by the stupid fat woman:
Instead of limiting our mourning to looking nostalgically back at old photos of a beehived, bikini-clad Bardot and playing “Bonnie and Clyde” on a loop, let’s ask ourselves the hard questions about how Bardot’s embodiment of prototypically “perfect” white womanhood relied upon systemic marginalization and outright racism (problems that persist in France to this day).
Does is have to be said that Islam is not a race?
Her evil stupidity and abuse of language is worse than her obesity.
She should be shipped to wherever France is importing Muslims from.
Do a test. Put her on the cover of Vogue, if the photo will fit. That will tank subscriptions in short order. Or not.
FAT!!!
No Mustache Rides!
Like the jaguar ad
Being in a successful weight losing phase is exciting and joyous. It's the experience of winning. Being in the weight gaining phase sucks mentally and physically. For me, not eating (successful discipline) is much more rewarding and enjoyable than eating stuff I crave. I just feel great when it's working. You would think that would be sufficient motivation, but then the holidays happen, and they beat me every time.
At a quick glance, I thought the Vogue writer’s photo was an AI-generated representation of a female Tweedledum.
I remember BB from my youth. She was and remained everything Emma Specter is not. It's hard to put the two in the same sentence. The wart hog mocks the dead lioness.
Grit! Wow. Seriously, I didn't think *anyone* actually read Grit.
So the fatty is an evil leftist AND obese? Color me surprised.
BB was the absolute sex kitten back in her day and that is all that matter for me. Also: when I was in my early teens, I saw ads in comic books that tried to entice me into selling Grit. I couldn't sell a magazine that I wouldn't read myself.
Congratulations Gilbar. That is impressive!!!
"Are we sure this writer isn't trans? "They" sorta look like it."
Why is it any of our business to be sure about what people have going on under their clothes?
What are the things we need to make sure of?
Achilles: "She should be shipped to wherever France is importing Muslims from."
Bidding would start at fifty camels! CC, JSM
fashion magazines are like Vanity Fair - leftist, vapid and full of crap.
"Bardot’s embodiment of prototypically “perfect” white womanhood relied upon systemic marginalization and outright racism"
Nonsense.
White females who whine about racism all the time - are assholes.
You know what is worse THAN leftist white-female opinions?
FAT WHITE LEFTIST female opinions.
Beautiful thin girls don't work for Vogue.
They don't work at all. Don't have to.
Beautiful young women with flexible standards in men and morals are the most privileged people on earth. They can walk out the door with nothing more than the clothes they stand up in and a passport, and comfortably survive indefinitely, without any work that most people would recognize as such.
We need a new magazine that targets fat white Walz-men and gross white leftist fat females - and does nothing but ridicule and shame them for their racism, stupidity, and lack of any morality or basic humanity.
Islamic males do horrible things to others - especially women.
that this FAT ugly white leftist writer for Vogue - can write snotty vapidity about BB after her death revels the rot inside the White fat leftist female community.
YouTube: Artie Lang tells Joe Rogan a story about a fat-joke that... made the rounds.
My hatred for all Fashion magazines deepens. Didn't think it could.
Or is "junker jo" making fun of the fashion? I think the fashion is perfect!
“Frumpy” is perfect? Well, maybe by the standards of Madison … FWIW I think “junker jo” is mocking both Specter’s fashion sense (lack thereof) and her morbid obesity. Note that in the picture to which Althouse links, Bardot is overweight but not obese (much less morbidly obese) and she rocks a pantsuit in way that Hillary Clinton (also fat but a stronger candidate for being labeled “obese”) can’t and never could.
The game Althouse is trying to play is a very old lefty gambit. One simply juxtaposes something negative on the right with something very, very negative on be left, and say “see, both sides do it.” So Bardot is overweight and Specter is morbidly obese, but “both are fat.” Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens are hardcore antisemites, so antisemitism is a problem for both sides — but it’s not conservatives who wear keffiyeh scarves and terrorize Jewish students on campuses, is it?
I’m waiting for Althouse to juxtapose some working class guy in a MAGA cap kiting a check with the multi-billion dollar Somali SNAP and daycare fraud in Minnesota (and in Wisconsin, I’m sure) so she can say “both sides commit financial fraud.”
“Brigitte Bardot looks awful in that picture from a few years ago the puffy face of a habitual drinker”
I was going to slam Howard’s observations but in fact she was a heavy drinker and smoker. Still, 91 is pretty good. (and I thought she looked just fine in the photo)
Reminds me of the Queers for Palestine protestors. Does she not realize that Muslims detest pork?
“Here's a picture of Bardot not long before she died. I think she looks great, but she got old and she was fat. I'll bet she would have died sooner if she didn't have that extra fat. It is part of the natural human body.”
I’ll take that bet.
“ Calorie restriction, a proven intervention to slow aging in animals, showed evidence of slowing the pace of biological aging in a human randomized trial
In a first of its kind randomized controlled trial an international team of researchers led by the Columbia Aging Center at Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health shows that caloric restriction can slow the pace of aging in healthy adults….The results are published online in the journal Nature Aging.” 2023.
Bardot wouldn’t have lived as long as she did if she’d had the fat of “the natural human body” these days.
This women fits my picture of large numbers of women who think like this: fat, and/or frumpy, and/or homely. Also ignorant and/or loony. Expecting a government to protect citizens from a political religious cult that commits 90+% of the terrorism and genocides in the world, rapes and persecutes women and girls and murders gays and “infidels” is not Islamophobia. Nor is it Islamophobic to notice and say so. It is perfectly reasonable. To claim otherwise is foolish and dangerous. Bardot needs no absolution.
Vogue deleted the original tweet promoting the article.
"I think the fashion is perfect! !
I ain't no Mr. Blackwell, but I couldn't disagree more. Not chic, not playful, not celebratory. Nothing matches. Looks like she randomly grabbed some frumpy garments and put them on without any thought of how she feels or wants to be seen by the world. And what's with that hideous see through green thing draped around her chest?
Also, I just returned from a visit with my son’s family in Africa. Remember when air travel was fun? If there were no Islamists, there would likely be no TSA or foreign facsimiles. Brigitte wasn’t hateful, she was observant. That’s the sin in lefty world, isn’t it, to notice.
I think a much more interesting discussion would be related to who has the authority to decide whether Bardot is absolved of perceived sins. In my opinion, it’s neither the fatty nor her employer.
“What are the things we need to make sure of?”
Kibbles ‘n’ Bits
BB still looked okay at 91 because she looked (a little) like BB. There were still some fumes......The Vogue writer doesn't have a nose piercing. Give her credit for that.
Yikes. I think even the horny Muzzies on campus would give that one a pass.
Aside from the choice to pair this outfit with a see-through yellow top exposing a black shirt underneath it, IMO, this outfit looks comfortable and hip, enough. Had she been 135 pounds wearing it instead, I don't think the outfit would have risen to commenting about it at all.
"Grit, America's Family Newspaper." I glad that with all the kids selling it, somebody actually did read it. Probably not enough copies to make those kids' dreams of wealth come true though.
Don't mock Chappell Roan for not knowing Bardot was cancelled. How many people who knew she had been cancelled could tell you why? What was Bardot's crime? That she though France had too many immigrants? Agree or disagree, that opinion certainly isn't beyond the pale of tolerable opinion.
I was going to say that Andre Leon Talley was no beauty either, but dang! He was quite the outrageous fashion plate. Maybe somebody at Vogue could gift Emma some hand-me-downs.
The NYT refers to her "legacy of racist rhetoric," as if "Muslim" is a race. And I agree with those who say she looked great at 91, and hardly "fat."
"I saw the picture of BB. She’s 91. She’d been in the hospital.I’d like to see a picture of Specter when she’s 91 if she makes it with all that fat."
She isn't just fat she's ugly. And when she's 91, she'll be even uglier.
Oh! It's been deleted!
Me: You know why DJs play "The Electric Slide" at wedding receptions?
Also Me: So fat girls get a chance to dance.
Dirty bare feet are nasty, but even nastier on a fat girl.
There are strong arguments that, pharmaceutical inputs aside, the amount of fat that we have is largely determined by our genetics. So much is just luck of the draw. Once you get past the urgent hunger for sex, it's time to relax.
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