I'm reading "Inside the Sandwich Guy’s Jury Deliberations/Can a flung sandwich cause bodily harm?" (The Atlantic)(gift link).
"At one point, sandwiches were served for lunch, an irony not lost on a jury spending hours contemplating the many possible uses of the breaded form (nutrition, satiety, projectile). 'Then we had lots and lots of jokes about the condiments,' the juror told me...."
The word "nullification" does not appear in the article. "Ultimately, the juror said the group decided the case on its merits..."
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So… decisions must be made on weight, composition, velocity, etc. of a thrown projectile to determine what constitutes an assault?
Think this through, people.
'We’re supposed to be looking at the evidence, but a clear majority felt it was nonsensical, like Don’t waste our time or money,' she said.
Just imagine- all those dollars spent on the trial, when that money could have been used to pay the salary of a leftist gender studies graduate at some NGO.
What a waste.
In crim law class, we read a case about a perp charged with armed robbery with a fake gun who was convicted because the victims didn’t know it was fake. The fear was real.
In a world where leftists put cement in drink cups and urine in balloons, where does this jury get off thinking it’s funny that the agent was able to determine after the fact that the object wasn’t dangerous? And that assaulting an officer for performing his duty is also funny?
Note to police — next time just shoot the bastard and say he was resisting arrest.
Misdemeanor assault (or battery) requires “bodily harm” in DC? Hmmm. The statute seems to cover “harmful or unwanted contact.” Democrat jury nullification seems likely.
"where does this jury get off thinking..."
Forget it, Jake. They're Democrats.
The Feds ought to carry cheap little pill poppers like the Cobra Enterprises .380 to plant on the cooling corpses of creeps like Sandwich Queer.
…sets bad precedent..
@Quaestor, cheaper for them to buy a realistic toy gun and saw off the red tip.
a similar jury, let loose the assaillant of Corestine, the Doge employee, whose grandfather was once betrayed by Aldrich Ames Valery Martinov,
the same Atlantic that was on the 'insurrectionary' track for four years, Tom Nichols, was perhaps the wurst of these,
Pepper spraying cops and beating them with flag poles while attempting to overthrow the government is patriotic and correct.
Throwing a Sammie is assault!!!!!!!
-MAGAt Nation
low how the DC Bar collaborated to restore kleinsmith's law license for fraud, look how the jury protected Sussman, another Perkins and Coie employee, they can offend at will, without consequence
how nearly 40 years, ago they went after a true patriot in Oliver North, this is how Toobin first rubbed shoulders with Lawrence Walsh, well it was shoulders then,
“Ultimately, the juror said the group decided the case on its merits...." It’s not that all Democrats are liars. Joe Dementia told us this about Democrats: “We Choose Truth Over Facts.” Among the few of them realizing the significance of the statement “he misspoke” was the claim. Thus, Joe’s point was proved.
the shambling heap, hasn't been acquainted with the truth in 50 years, and well he is too astranged to ever recognize it,
we can address the lewis libby case, the steven case, where gross prosecutorial malfeasance was accepted,
the latter had a little to do with the prosecutions star witness, and his fbi handler, who took more than a professional interest in the latter, ahem,
After the Jan 6 pardons for people who beat the shit of police. ? So y'all ok with that but are pissed with the verdict here? Lol
Perhaps he would have found guilty if he had thrown a club sandwich.
there was so utter malfeasance in the delta house follies, which would be amusing if rosalynn boyland would not have clubbed to death, and ashley babbitt shot by the black version of neidermeyer,
when they tried to scale the whitehouse and burn down lincolns church, there was no accountability then either,
The back and forth about the weaponization of criminal law will continue , regardless of the 2028 outcome. Forum shopping will be the order of the day.
I have been watching this game for at least as long as the North trial, they have played it going back to watergate, according to informed sources,
DC Court.
The "sandwich case," involving Sean Dunn who threw a Subway sandwich at a federal agent, was heard in Federal District Court in Washington, D.C..
how does that line go 'we have only yet begun to fight'
ah ashley parker, the one who was so concerned over Romney's dog on the roof, if they didn't have double standards they would have none,
’After the Jan 6 pardons for people who beat the shit of police.’
Totally agree. And none of the J6’ers even spent a day in jail…
he may not quite grasp the sarcasm, there Beasts
So it only took 7 hours over two days for the jurors who wanted to convict to see the light. I wonder if they knew they were avoiding getting steamrolled?
Isydt, more of a hard roll,
the earlier cases I referenced were handled by pat fitzgerald, at least were reverse or modified by appeals courts, and voila, hes now comey's lead atty, the one who hunted down the terror of wall street, martha stewart
mind you there was no such diligence re Madoff, but he had krisha protection from the likes of Schumer, who he would need for the next kabuki, the Plame game
Under Matthew Graves, the citizens were locked in, the criminals were free,
It was an unknown object, of unknown composition, until it made contact. Bad judgment and precedent.
Capitol punishment is a celebrated Choice. Abort.
Double standards? They are hypocrites, but not bigots (i.e. sanctimonious hypocrites) following progressive principles, wielding liberal license under the Pro-Choice [ethical] religion.
When the person assaulted treats it as a joke, maybe the prosecutor should get a clue.
So I can throw a sub at and hit any of the jurors without criminal liability.
Reading the article it's surprising that some of those people got past the jury selection process.
If I threw a sandwich (or anything else) at one of my local cops, prosecution would be the very least of my concerns, though I have no doubt I would be convicted of assault.
A sober, grown-up, prosecutor would know that when someone chucks a sandwich at a peace officer, it's wise not to make a federal case out of it.(Of course, when sober, grown-up people foresaw that charging George Zimmerman in the death of Trayvon Martin was a losing proposition that would cost millions, they were fired for their trouble, so the case was brought to trial, the state spent millions, and Zimmerman was acquitted.) (No one got their job back, though).
you might well get a lead roll in response, and this is what they have probably escalated to, because of these stupid kabuki games, that dread pirate smith and others orchestrated, seven january 6th defendants committed suicide, not so funny now is it, and spare me the theatrics of fanone and company,
Note to prospective abortionists, wait until the "burden" is in a vulnerable location, position before launching the missile to enjoy prosecutorial discretion in a Democratic jurisdiction.
ah yes, a case of multiple journalistic malpractice from frances robles of the Miami Herald(which we're acquainted down in south florida,) matt gutman of ABC, most recently trying to romanticize charlie kirk's killer, Gloria Alred's spawn, Lisa Bloom, and some other minor characters, with a few exceptions those that got it wrong, were promoted to better gigs,
During the Pelosi-rrection with Whitmer conspiratorial elements, a lone woman in a prone position was aborted under Capitol punishment with the presumption that she carried a hidden sandwich, and would loft it at a senior Capitol Hill officer.
it didn't really matter the victim was acquitted because he was a good samaritan, the perpetrator was praised by the early of what would become known as BLM
one recalls in the stevens case, one of the alternate jurors showed up in full star ship regalia, yeah thats not a surprise,
I would have had no problem if the guy would have been convicted and received a reasonable sentence (community service, etc.). I also have no problem that he was acquitted. The people who have the problems are the problem.
I did have a problem with most of the J6 protestors getting long sentences as political punishment just as I would have had a problem if they would have given sandwich guy a lengthy sentence.
over in gotham
https://nypost.com/2025/11/15/us-news/soft-on-crime-manhattan-da-alvin-braggs-office-ignored-cabbie-assault-victim-let-driver-off-easy-she-said/
DC is the turd in the nation’s punch bowl. But a righteous and self satisfied turd. It’s hard to be sane when your pay check depends on the implementation of insanity.
To the moronic leftists here trying to make comparisons to January 6? Who spent time in jail and who didn't?
One suspects that the guy could have thrown a brick and gotten a pass from this jury but I have no problem with the verdict itself. Also, had the sandwich thrower been wearing a MAGA hat during the incident, I guarantee you the jury would have convicted.
"So I can throw a sub at and hit any of the jurors without criminal liability."
Throw one at the judge and see what happens.
Hopefully, "The process was the punishment." That guy deserved to be dealt some corrective action, even if it was a $100 fine.
Jared Fogel is no longer "sandwich guy"? How the mighty have fallen.
the comfy chair, others will volunteer to repeat the pattern,
It's okay to storm the Capitol building and assault police officers, but it's a felony to throw a sandwich?
While public opinion still matters, what makes authoritarianism weak and brittle is its fragility in the face of its own absurdity. Strongmen aren’t known for their sense of humor after all.
After the Jan 6 pardons for people who beat the shit of police. ?
Assumes facts not ever in evidence.
Did they happen to deliberate on what would be the reaction from the court if the prosecutor threw a harmless submarine sandwich at the judge?
'the crisis actors' Fanone and co, the local version of police squad, they got way too much attention,
officer sicknick was not killed by any protesters as much as they pretended to be, (they hid the exculpatory evidence)
https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1990159170176532681
That seems like a lot of firepower brought to bear on a single sandwich-throwing paralegal, but the overkill is a tribute to the potential and lasting energy of the gesture — after all, who understands the power of dumb symbolism and silly political theater better than Trump?
If our hero threw a grinder like a torpedo leaving a submarine, then there should be no mercy for the poor boy.
Jeanine Pirro overcharged. The standard jury instructions for the crime of misdemeanor assault required proving a reasonable apprehension of bodily harm. That’s a laughable assertion in this case. Why didn’t she charge a simple battery where she would only have to prove an offensive touching?
She overcharged, she lost, and she should have seen that coming when she couldn’t get an indictment for felony assault.
Also, the fed was caught testilyimg when he claimed he could smell the onions and mustard on his bullet proof vest, but the still wrapped sandwich could be plainly seen on the ground in the videos.
Now, just to throw this out there, if the fed had been allergic to onions and mustard, Pirro might have had a case.
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