AI responded to my question with a concise, well-formatted chart:
Outlet | Date | Key Alarm Raised | |
|---|---|---|---|
The Guardian | Sep 20, 2025 | Positions Kirk as a "Christian nationalist martyr," warning that his death and memorial rhetoric (e.g., Erika Kirk's "battle cry") signal "holy war" and accelerationism, intertwining Trump-era politics with theocratic ambitions. | |
NPR | Sep 22, 2025 | Highlights evangelical framing of Kirk as a "modern-day Stephen" (first Christian martyr) at the memorial; scholar Matthew Boedy warns of violent escalation from martyrdom talk, linking it to Christian nationalism's push for a "Christian nation" incompatible with secular governance. | |
Los Angeles Times | Sep 12, 2025 | Reports Christian nationalists mourning Kirk as a martyr and seeking "vengeance," tied to the Seven Mountains Mandate (Christian dominance in society); experts on far-right extremism express alarm over glorification amid rising political violence. | |
The Nation | Sep 17, 2025 | Describes Kirk as a "white Christian nationalist provocateur" whose death is being used to sanitize bigotry; criticizes post-assassination tributes as enabling a movement that indoctrinates youth into exclusionary views. | |
The Presbyterian Outlook | Sep 18, 2025 | Urges Christians to confront "White Christian nationalism" in Kirk's ideologies (e.g., on race, gender); views his death as exposing the "myth of redemptive violence" in disparate theologies fueling U.S. divides. | |
CNN | Sep 15, 2025 | Notes conservative leaders calling Kirk a "martyr" in church services, urging pastors into politics; alarms over potential for "Gnostic" separation of faith and civic life, leading to demands for Christian control. | |
The Washington Post | Sep 22, 2025 | Analyzes memorial as fusing government and Christianity, predicting Kirk's "Christian-infused right-wing movement" will dominate the GOP, with Trump calling it an "old-time revival." | |
The New York Times | Sep 21, 2025 | Describes the memorial as an "extraordinary fusion" of government and evangelical worship, canonizing Kirk as a martyr and reflecting Trump's melding of conservative Christianity with politics. | |
MSNBC (via opinion piece) | Sep 18, 2025 | Highlights racial divides in tributes, with Black pastors rejecting Kirk's martyrdom due to his racism; alarms that white Christians' embrace ignores his harm to marginalized groups. | |
USA Today | Sep 16, 2025 | Reports faith communities divided: evangelicals hail Kirk as martyr, while others (e.g., anti-fascism classes) decry Christian nationalism as a "perversion of Christianity" perpetuating violence. | |
LGBTQ Nation | Sep 22, 2025 | Calls the memorial proof the GOP is "all in on Christian nationalism," portraying it as a "holy war" for a conservative, Christian, heterosexual America, eroding civil rights. | |
Baptist News Global | Sep 18, 2025 | Critiques Kirk's demagoguery and Christian nationalism as distorting the gospel; post-death hagiography ignores his promotion of "false history" and scapegoating. | |
Alternet | Sep 21, 2025 | Warns extremists view Kirk's murder as a "call to holy war," with figures like Candace Owens and Sean Feucht fueling accelerationism via martyrdom narratives. | |
Concord Monitor(Opinion) | Sep 16, 2025 | Links Kirk's Christian nationalism to Hitler's church co-optation, alarming over Trump's mourning as prophetic and its anti-democratic implications. | |
The Conversation | Sep 16, 2025 | Questions Kirk's martyrdom status, seeing it unite the Christian right for "white nationalism, hatred, and exclusion" under Judeo-Christian values. |
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tell us you hate God and you hate our country, without saying so,
disparate theologies fueling U.S. divides
Not Islam, though. It's still the Religion-o'-Peace.
I guest the Baptist News is as bad as Christianity Today's Russell Moore, good grief,
but NPR proves why its not worth one red cent,
ChatGPT: The phrase “For God, for Country, and for Yale” comes from Yale University’s traditions in the late 19th century.
It was popularized in “Bright College Years” (1881), a song often considered Yale’s unofficial alma mater. Written by Henry Durand (Yale Class of 1881), the lyrics express loyalty to Yale, patriotism, and faith. The refrain calls on students and alumni to raise their voices “for God, for Country, and for Yale.”
The ordering of those three loyalties reflects the values Yale sought to promote at the time:
• For God → faith and moral grounding.
• For Country → patriotism and civic duty.
• For Yale → devotion to the university itself.
Over the years, the phrase became a well-known motto associated with Yale culture, often invoked in speeches, alumni gatherings, and even political settings (notably used by Yale graduates such as William F. Buckley Jr. and George H.W. Bush).
what was this country founded on if not Faith in God, what has sustained us for nearly 250 years,
yes you killed him, didn't work out the way you thought,
Please note that the sources returned are all from Left of Center sources. No one on the Right self-identifies as "Christian Nationalist", except for ironic references like Marjorie Taylor Green saying "I'm a Christian and I'm a Nationalist, so I guess that makes me a Christian Nationalist". This, like "fascism" before it, is a term that the Left imposes on its opposition.
Christian Nationalism or Muslim Nationalism. These are your choices
we love God and we love our Country is that supposed to be a bad thing
whenever they call the Conversation, it's' usually a stupid one,
I'm more concerned about Democratic party Terrorism.
And Democratic Party cultism.
Assassinations flow from D- Party terror and their terrorist inspiring words.. like 'Fascist "
Forgiving is now a "far right" sin? I'm not a theologian, but, isn't turning the ultimate good into evil, diabolic? Again, maybe I'm wrong about that. Jesus.
The left despise not being god. The corrupt left demand they are the gods.
The left proudly claims the unchristian anti-American position for itself.
yeah, they ignore that whole other dimension,
Althouse asks: "Where in traditional/social media is alarm being raised about "Christian nationalism"?"
AI answers: On the left.
Got it.
like the free palestine aspect of the new hampshire shooter, well you would have to be Kreskin to know that was the motive if you read either the Times or the Grauniad,
sorry NBC News, the Grauniad actually acknowledged that point of view,
Not a single Christian out there - anywhere - NOT ONE...
is coercing anyone to be Christian or a believer in Christ.
The left cannot stand the mere mention of a Christian God - because the left place themselves at the center of the universe. You will obey the left.
Meanwhile - the corrupt evil lying Terrorist outfit that IS the democratic party = is built on coercion and lies.... and demands that you obey them.
Democratic Party Religious Nationalism = Antifa.
And, since I'm not a follower of Islam, I am free to ask, "Just what is wrong, if anything, with the Judao-Christian tradition?
I'd say to those who want to change the country to fit their view of things--if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
NPR gives us "scholar Matthew Boedy". Ladies and Gentlemen- we have our expert!! And "he warns of a violent escalation from martyrdom talk."
They are always warning of people on the right being violent, and yet they are always the ones killing others, threatening others, and destroying our cities, our culture, and our traditions.
Well...as a random Jew on the street let me just say that I welcome a return to a religious nation, a Christian nation. One that understands right from wrong, good from evil, and puts as a greater good, doing things to help people rather than shoot them when they appear in public to talk with you.
Our secular society has gotten so extreme, so without guard rails, so absolutely chaotic, much of it endorsed by our so-called leaders, that I am longing for a more Christian nation around me. Like we once were. And yes, I know we've had bad Christians doing bad things. We are all human. No one segment of people is immune to idiots.
But I don't fear so-called 'Christian Nationalism'. I'm a nationalist. I believe in America First. I'm not a Christian, but I recognize this was formed a Christian nation that welcomed my people to live in it. George Washington himself wrote a letter of welcome to the first Jewish congregation in this nation, in Newport, Rhode Island. This Christian nation laid out the principles that are surely the greatest guide for individual rights any nation has ever seen.
We just need to remember who we are, who we were, and what we can be again. And in my opinion- again, as a Jew- I don't see us getting there without the buy-in of a Christian nation.
I understand that might raise the hairs on the arms of pure secularists. Our laws will keep us a secular nation. But having something mooring us to know right from wrong...I don't see that as bad.
https://billquick.substack.com/p/shaving-charlie-kirks-murder-with I include this link from the other day,
This reminds me of Tim Blair's comment about fearing backlash from tomorrow's train bombing.
that one's a classic, it's too bad he went behind the Australian pay wall,
White Christian Nationalists! Oh, No! I guess we need to kill those people too before they turn America in to a evil racist, bigoted, theocracy. The left has only one playbook. "other" the right and justify killing them.
https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2025/09/22/when-angry-lefty-bullets-fly-in-sacramento-n3807052 violence you say,
the Authoritarian trope, was something that the Frankfurt School notably Theodor Adorno cooked up, it resurfaced in the sixties with Richard Hofstadler, to explain Goldwater, and Nixon I think,
What is really happening is that a majority of people are realizing that we are much better off as a Christian nation than the godless alternative.
People are learning all about the secular religion of The State.
Everyone worships something.
"This reminds me of Tim Blair's comment about fearing backlash from tomorrow's train bombing.
Link to Norm video
Our God is not their god. Take away the guarantee of secular schooling and disband the ACLU- the religious impulse in America will rise dramatically.
If American elites don't like that, fine- perhaps they can expect silence instead of support for the next war they wage.
More like Christian Patriotism.
this is what they don't like about Orban, he has eroded the transnationalist forces of the EU and our uniparty,
The lack of religion is a giant void in human nature. It always gets filled whether you like it or not.
and without a durable religion, the country falls apart, look at the Church of England, and what is has descended into,
The lack of morality and honesty - comes from Modern Democratic Mob-like networks and structures.
doesn't the gramsci network precede the mob,
it might be a chicken and egg problem
Onward, Christian soldiers,
marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus
going on before!
At the sign of triumph
Satan's host doth flee;
On, then, Christian soldiers,
on to victory!
Hell's foundations quiver
at the shout of praise;
Brothers, lift your voices,
loud your anthems raise!
Is this why it's crucial Robinson be a right wing MAGA?
They have to keep that narrative going. Otherwise, they are facing another Trump like president.
White nationalists agree with blacks on campus. Blacks on campus open blacks-only spaces so that they are not always surrounded by people a lot smarter than they are, and can compete only with each other. That's the white nationalist idea. Whites compete with whites and blacks compete with blacks, via separation. Comity results, is the plan
I don't know what a Christian nationalist might be. Separate Christian spaces?
So, you had ChatGPT round up the usual suspects.
I asked Grok: "What about Turning Point USA's Young Black Leadership Summit?"
Thank you for your follow-up question about Turning Point USA's (TPUSA) Young Black Leadership Summit. This is a real event organized by TPUSA, specifically aimed at empowering young Black leaders who align with conservative values. The summit focuses on topics such as leadership development, entrepreneurship, and policy discussions from a conservative perspective, and it's targeted toward African-American students and young professionals.
The left loves to call people "Christian nationalists" or "white nationalists" because the phrases are usefully ambiguous. Many people can't deny they are CNs or WNs in one sense, and the left takes that as meaning they are CNs or WNs in the other, much nastier, sense, even though the vast majority are nothing of the sort.
The difference is neatly illustrated by Marjorie Taylor Green's comment, which Young Hegelian quotes at 12:24pm. To put it even more bluntly, if you're a Christian and a nationalist, you can't deny being a "Christian nationalist". But that doesn't mean you're in favor of a Christian (as in all-Christian) nation!
Both phrases can be analyzed two different ways. Being a (Christian)(nationalist) is not at all the same thing as being a (Christian nation)(-alist), but the left pretends it is.
Similarly, I'm white and a nationalist. Am I a "white nationalist"? I can't deny it! Am I in favor of establishing a white (as in all-white) nation? Absolutely not! Only Nazis and Klansmen - all 500 + 3,500 of them in the US - believe that. I am a (white)(nationalist) but not a (white nation)(-alist).
Both phrases should be avoided as hopelessly ambiguous, and only used by evil people to misrepresent their enemies as being what they are not.
they are just semiotic words, made up mush,
I asked perplexity "Which countries have no-go zones controlled by Christians?" Here is the answer:
There are no credible reports or official claims of "no-go zones" controlled by Christians in any country—meaning areas where Christians exclude non-Christians or authorities, and exercise autonomous control over a neighborhood or region akin to an alternate jurisdiction.
Replace "Christian" with "Muslim" and see what you get.
I watched Kirk respond to a kid and explicitly state we are not a theocracy and he didn’t advocate it. My understanding of Christian Nationalism is that it holds an eschatological view that God has given (proclaimed, called…?) the United States to a unique position. As God called historic Israel to be His holy nation under covenant, the U.S. has a similar purpose today. I may be wrong. Kirk was a Christian first. But he was also a Republican/conservative activist. The combination of the two in his memorial makes sense. But…the primary focus was on his faith and Jesus. That’s how Christian memorials work, people.
semiotic mush, made up words,
but it you want to destroy a country, you can't do it from without, you must undermine the foundations which are faith and love of country, of family,
I found Tea-Antifa's example
the left are opposed to all of these, thats why they seed the mind arson,
that was a crazy time, and all the 'right minded people' just poured more gasoline on the fire,
D-bag terrorist - this you bro?
rhhardin said...
I don't know what a Christian nationalist might be. Separate Christian spaces?
Someone who believes that our basic social structures such as family relationships and laws are based on a foundation defined roughly in the Bible.
It means having a moral order in society based on something more than whatever rhhardin feels like in his moral soap opera.
People with nothing to anchor their morality to tend to take strange detours throughout history.
LOL. Grok probably could've thrown in ABC, CBS, NBC, the boston globe, Chicago Tribune, Newsweek, etc. etc. since 90 percent of the MSM takes the same line on every subject, every day.
The use of the word "nationalism" is interesting. Why not say "Patriotism"? The word seems to unused on the Liberal/left except as a sarcastic insult. BTW, for some odd reason some "Conservatives" like Mark Levin are upset at Tucker speaking at the memorial, even though Tucker and Charlie were friends.
well he has been demonetized but thats not nearly enough
yes its a sargasso sea of irrelevance, you know what you just saw, it's something entirely different,
The liberal/left see Christianity's very existance as a threat and wish it would evaporate and disappear. But they're not the only ones. The Church of England agrees.
newsweek has a 50/50 sense of getting things right,
its not really much of a Church, by their official pronouncements I thought Rowan Williams was terrible, but Welby isn't much better
"The Presbyterian Outlook"
"The Global Baptist News"
When a national figure promoting Christian viewpoints in society is met with horror by your so-called "Christian" organization, it time to scrap it and admit that you're in if for some other (likely political) reason.
they just killed the institution and are wearing the skin (iowahawk)
These citations from the media are spectacular self-identification. What do these people have to offer?
nothing at all
Yes, Reachy. That is me but I’ve since repented and been born again.
Charlie Kirk died for my sins.
Jesus loves you, Reachy but everyone else thinks you’re an asshole.
Jenny, a Facebook poster, reposted by many who post Bible verses, wrote this to helpfully define Christian Nationalism. It was widely shared.
since a bunch of people
missed sunday school
let’s be exquisitely clear
jesus never said
america first
crush enemies
elect christian leaders
disappear outsiders
worship the flag
that’s christian nationalism
what *did* jesus say?
love god
love your enemies
love yourself
practice humility
welcome people not like you
feed people who are hungry
you can’t serve god and money
share what you have with others
break down walls between groups
if you want to be great - serve others
....etc.....
While there are some explicit Christian Nationalist folks out there, almost always any performative panic isn't about them. Instead, it's a rhetorical ploy to make people afraid of perfectly normal social and political expression. We live in a country where every citizen has the right to vote and everyone tends to vote in ways that express what they think is best for this country. The Christian nationalist label is often used to shame or dissuade people from voting according to their beliefs. As if some beliefs are not allowed.
It's a usually silly label used by disingenuous people, some of whom like to take the label of Christian beliefs for themselves. Meanwhile the most authentically Christian nationalist folks I know are progressive Christians. They actively assert their Christian stances are normative for all, see the government as the primary method for advancing those goals and causes, and try to shame those who disagree by using Bible passages or analogies.
I know there are folks who do that on the Right but it's funny to me how rarely people talk about how much Christian progressives are even more explicit yet don't get labeled as being somehow wrong.
Charlie Kirk was murdered because he advocated his faith and hope to young people. “Christian nationalist” is just more Democrat calumny. He never preached theocracy. Democrats and their consorts are mostly anti-Christian. That is what LGBT extremism and Gramscian Marxism are about.
love god
love your enemies
love yourself
practice humility
welcome people not like you
feed people who are hungry
you can’t serve god and money
share what you have with others
break down walls between groups
if you want to be great - serve others
Wow, Pedo Cheeto checks ALL those boxes!
That’s a nice list, but MAGA Jesus is waaaay more about smiting enemies, nursing griviences, hoarding wealth and sharpening knives.
MAGA JESUS! Boom out go the lights! the alternative Jesus :(
again brain rot on full display,
It’s a sort of paradox; Old Testament, angry Jesus will put a bag on the foreigner’s head and stuff his illeagal ass in the back of a van, no questions asked, no process followed.
Suck it needy bitches!
I went to my kids church this past Sunday. It's one of those young people's semi-evangelist, non-denominational types, with a Praise Band and so on. The preacher had kind of a funny lead-in to the body of his sermon: He pointed out that, without Christianity, we would not have our modern civilization. There would be no cathedrals, no western civilization. There would be no Bach. There would have been no enlightenment, no Renaissance, no Baroque cathedrals. The scientific method would not have happened, and we would not have modern medicine, and maybe not even have market-based, capitalistic economies - at least not in the forms we presently enjoy, mostly peacefully. We would not have had the kind of progress we have had over the past 2000 years.
We take a lot for granted. Fortunately, life has become so easy in our modern world, that not very many people die from stupidly taking things for granted that they should have paid attention to.
You know, it saddens me that the left hates the idea of "Christian nationalism" so much. Think about it. The idea is that God raised up America as a favored country.
Why, exactly, do leftists hate that idea so virulently? Shouldn't ALL countries want to feel like God thinks that country is special? TeaBag apparently cannot stand the idea that God loves America and the United States.
Why? What is wrong with God loving America and the Constitution and all of that?
look at the majority of the countries of the general assembly, in town to grovel, they want us to be just like them,
I’ve been a member of the Presbyterian Church USA for 30 or 40 years and never knew there was a publication called The Presbyterian Outlook. That’s probably because I religiously avoid (no pun intended) anything coming out of the national organization. I go the church every Sunday for one purpose - to worship God. Not to indulge in the Leftist outrage of the week. I find that things work out much better that way.
I would only point out that the purpose of the bad-faith troll is to start a low-intelligence, potty-mouth back-and-forth, in order to dilute a message that is dangerous to their leaders. The point is to make other readers give up reading the comments out of frustration and boredom.
If you respect the blog, don't feed the trolls. Let them enjoy their creative projects alone and deprived.
Hey WA-mom, when you see Jenny again, ask her about this:
jesus never said
america first – why would he since ‘America’ would not exist for another 2000+ years? Oh, you mean something about separation of church and state? He did say “render unto Cesar… “, but the real point is when “America First” is used as a slogan, it’s in reference to fiscal responsibility to American taxpayers, and not in relation to all priorities in one’s life.
crush enemies – yeah, he didn’t say anything about shooting them either, did he?
elect christian leaders – because he didn’t say this explicitly, you really he would be against someone following his beliefs and commands becoming a leader in their community?
disappear outsiders – can’t do that unless those outsiders somehow illegally became insiders
worship the flag – pretty strong term there – ‘worship’. Who is asking for that?
that’s christian nationalism
what *did* jesus say?
love god – and leftists are all about this, huh?
love your enemies – maybe the first step in demonstrating this is not shooting them
love yourself – yeah, y’all got this one down to a ‘T’
practice humility – which would include being snarky, like starting off your rebuttal with a statement like “since a bunch of people missed sunday school let’s be exquisitely clear”, right?
welcome people not like you – sure, and follow the law while you’re doing that
feed people who are hungry – I’m sure Charlie was certainly against that (/s)
you can’t serve god and money – be sure to let your pals in the WEF know that!
share what you have with others - I’m sure Charlie preached against that – there’s got to be a ton of YouTubes of him saying “be stingy”! (/s)
break down walls between groups – the Democrat Party’s basis of operation is “get every interest group set against each other, and then pretend to act interested in their cause while reaping $ and votes”.
if you want to be great - serve others – yeah, Charlie was obviously only in it for himself (/s)
Good no respectable outlet covered it.
The USA was founded by people who had no use for the Catholic hierarchy or monarchies (e.g., the Church of England). The USA had a lot of free-thinking offshoots, ranging from the Amish and Mennonities to the Shakers, Quakers, Mormons and a bunch of science-driven 19th century "progressive" Christians.
As such, old-school USA was not much like European state Christianity. It was a wooly bunch of working-class farmers rooted in the Christian Bible going off on tangents and only half-replicating each other.
Regarding DEI and LGBTQ: Per Christian teaching they did condemn sodomites (gays) and race mixing. But that ain't nationalism at all. Those thoughts go far beyond Christian teaching too.
And more to the point, since TeaBagHag and the rest of the left apparently think "Christian nationalism" deserves the death penalty... when do they start calling for the genocide of people of my faith, since we have it explicitly in our scriptures that God raised up America and the United States in the last days and established the Constitution for the good of mankind? Do I have to worry about the next leftist president setting up extermination camps for me and my fellow believers?
Note to TBH: There is no Old Testament angry Jesus. His coming is prophesied and foreshadowed in the Old Testament, and there are hints of appearances called theophanies, but no direct appearances. Remember that the Old Testament was written by Jews before the time of His coming.
Thought you’d like to know.
“Religious Nationalism” or “Moral Majoritarianism” would probably be better terms. They avoid appealing to the authority of Christ Himself, who almost certainly would have disagreed with some of the tenets claimed by the movement.
Harvard man Jack Kennedy called "For God, For Country, and For Yale" the greatest anticlimax in the English language. In his day, though, nonsectarian, nondenominational Christianity-adjacent quasi-nationalism was America's quasi-official philosophy.
"Presbyterian Outlook is a magazine associated with the PC(USA)"
PC indeed.
But everyone knows Democrats are all about representing Christian values! Why in the world would a MAGA vote for Cheeto when he could vote for the likes of Pedo Biden and be on the side of Jesus! Or something.
“MAGA JESUS! Boom out go the lights! the alternative Jesus”
Dinky’s snortin’ whiskey and drinkin’ his cocaine… AGAIN.
Enigma said...
The USA was founded by people who had no use for the Catholic hierarchy or monarchies (e.g., the Church of England). The USA had a lot of free-thinking offshoots, ranging from the Amish and Mennonities to the Shakers, Quakers, Mormons and a bunch of science-driven 19th century "progressive" Christians.
It was precisely the decentralized nature of Protestant Christianity that made it possible to use it as a means to supply the nation with an objective moral framework to anchor the social contract while simultaneously creating the space for a free society that did not have a centralized organization that could take advantage of a small government and centralize power external to official government institutions like the Catholic Church and did on many occasions.
Jesus was pro-Life, didn't celebrate dysfunctional sexual orientations, supported charity not redistributive change schemes, advocated for one man and one woman in marriage, opposed immigration reform in lieu of emigration reform, would likely not support the Green blight over land, sea, and air, etc. Be fruitful and multiply is both the prime directive and fitness function for a viable humanity.
Keldonric said...
”Religious Nationalism” or “Moral Majoritarianism” would probably be better terms. They avoid appealing to the authority of Christ Himself, who almost certainly would have disagreed with some of the tenets claimed by the movement.
No.
Other religions do not have the correct combination of virtue and individuality.
There is a lot more to it than that. The fundamental structure of Protestant Christianity is unique and makes it possible to use as the base layer for a social contract that creates a fundamentally decentralized society while simultaneously creating a common social fabric that makes it possible to raise. Multiple generations of people who have the necessary virtue to be free citizens.
Thanks for telling me that Jesus wasn’t in the Old Testament. I did go to Sunday school for years and have read the Bible cover to cover.
That’s why I said it was a PARADOX
MAGA, Old Testament Jesus; he gets to be the symbol of the christian movement but he gets stripped of all humility, forgiveness, love, etc.
MAGA Jesus gets all of the bitter baggage of the angry, smiting god from the Old Testament.
Let me give you a hint, TeaBag: Jesus does not forgive anyone but the penitent. The ones who stop their sinning and turn to God. The ones who are out there boasting about their abortions and how they slept with 15 ten year old kids last night? Jesus does not forgive them. He reverts back to His Old Testament self. Jesus is a God of Mercy... but also, and leftists forget this, a God of justice. Jesus in the New Testament was very, very clear that He does not accept nor forgive the unrepentant. It's our choice whether to take advantage of the gifts Jesus offers.... but He is no hippie who is "cool, man! Sin as much as you want!" He's still the God of the Old Testament. As, if you've read the book of Revelations, is apparent in spades. He is allowing us a space to repent, if we choose... but He will come, and He will burn the wicked. And the screaming of the wicked at that day will not be enough to spare them, for they have left their repentance entirely too late.
“I did go to Sunday school for years and have read the Bible cover to cover.”
Kicked out when caught gargling nads in the church pews, no doubt.
Leave the extensive child molestation done by catholic priests, and condoned by their higher ups for centuries, out of this!
Hahahaha, a child was raped in church!
- that’s typical MAGA humor
Of everything on the "Things To Be Alarmed About" list, Christians who support the country is way, way down near the bottom.
Unless you're a leftard, of course. In that case, it's directly above "Somebody Deadnamed Me" and "I Hate My Penis/Pussy".
TBH is mad about something.
Vance, does MAGA Jesus forgive Cheeto Pedo for at best protecting child rapists and at worst, raping all those kids himself?
Now Donald J Trump feels like ONE UNREPENTANT fucker.
Weird that he’s the center of gracvity, spiritually and politically for the MAGAts rank and file.
Two Sundays ago, I attended a Catholic mass officiated by a bishop. He assured the congregation that Christian Nationalism was heresy, but never bother to define it in any way. Quite frankly, I viewed his comments as a calumny aimed at Charlie Kirk, who was not named (he obviously didn't want to his plausible deniability if someone accused him of attacking Kirk).
At the same mass, the bishop solicited donations for Gaza and (if I recall correctly) Ukraine. Apparently some people, but not American Christians, are allowed to be both believers and nationalists.
This was the same week that a wacko bishop posted an absurd defense of DEI on the website of the American bishops. Although that post was soon removed, the American bishops seem determined to beclown themselves, scandalize the faithful with their politicized religion, and follow the mainline Protestant churches into irrelevancy.
Also, is raw dogging a porn star while your wife is pregnant, forgivable, if you are unrepentant about going balls deep in her?
The US Conference of Catholic Bishops is a playground for leftist ideas.
Last question, in removing medical aid internationally, tens of thousands of children have already died for partisan reasons, or to save billionaires money, if tyoure being generous.
Is this in line with the teachings of Jesus?
Or is this policy of letting children die, mortally offset by forcing victims of rape to have their rapists’ baby?
I’ll take my answer off the air.
>narciso said...
what was this country founded on if not Faith in God,<
Really? That's an easy one: this country was founded on the principles of liberty, equality, and self-governance - and, incidentally, on protection for religious pluralism. It was not founded on faith in god.
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