Althouse: "We have each had the honor and privilege of serving as director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.... Collectively, we spent more than 100 years working at the C.D.C...."

September 1, 2025

"We have each had the honor and privilege of serving as director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.... Collectively, we spent more than 100 years working at the C.D.C...."

"We served under multiple Republican and Democratic administrations.... What Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has done to the C.D.C. and to our nation’s public health system over the past several months — culminating in his decision to fire Dr. Susan Monarez as C.D.C. director days ago — is unlike anything we have ever seen at the agency, and unlike anything our country has ever experienced. Secretary Kennedy has fired thousands of federal health workers and severely weakened programs designed to protect Americans from cancer, heart attacks, strokes, lead poisoning, injury, violence and more. Amid the largest measles outbreak in the United States in a generation, he’s focused on unproven 'treatments' while downplaying vaccines. He canceled investments in promising medical research that will leave us ill prepared for future health emergencies. He replaced experts on federal health advisory committees with unqualified individuals who share his dangerous and unscientific views. He announced the end of U.S. support for global vaccination programs that protect millions of children and keep Americans safe.... This is unacceptable, and it should alarm every American.... The C.D.C. is not perfect. What institution is?"

From "We Ran the C.D.C.: Kennedy Is Endangering Every American’s Health" (NYT). The piece is signed by William Foege, William Roper, David Satcher, Jeffrey Koplan, Richard Besser, Tom Frieden, Anne Schuchat, Rochelle P. Walensky, and Mandy K. Cohen — all former directors or acting directors of the CDC.

153 comments:

Ampersand said...: This one will play out as a propaganda war over the next decade. The public health establishment has a superior set of propaganda weapons, so the RFK team is at a disadvantage.; 9/1/25, 7:35 AM
Achilles said...: The first major peer reviewed study came out on the Vaccine safety.

There is a reason why the roaches at the CDC have chosen now to start roaching out.; 9/1/25, 7:36 AM
Old and slow said...: RFK also has the disadvantage of being a crank. When the expert class delegitimizes itself, it leads to this kind of stupidity.; 9/1/25, 7:38 AM
Eva Marie said...: Were there 51 signatories?; 9/1/25, 7:39 AM
Tarrou said...: They weren't charged with a hundred felonies each? This isn't what I voted for.; 9/1/25, 7:39 AM
gilbar said...: " unlike anything we have ever seen at the agency"
well, since EVERY ONE of those scam artists are responsible for the murders and deaths CAUSED BY the agency under their watch; that's Probably a GOOD THING.

To be clear William Foege, William Roper, David Satcher, Jeffrey Koplan, Richard Besser, Tom Frieden, Anne Schuchat, Rochelle P. Walensky, and Mandy K. Cohen should ALL be in PRISON for MURDER; 9/1/25, 7:40 AM
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...: Fire every single employee who walked out. It's illegal to strike when you are a federal employee. If you openly oppose the guy in charge you are in the wrong. These idiots act like they have some residue of goodwill left with the American people. They don't. Like all Leftists they overplayed their weak hand and went full retard- tyrant during COVID. Trust lost is very difficult to regain.

This screeching diatribe ain't the way to do it. FAIL.; 9/1/25, 7:43 AM
tommyesq said...: What major health crisis has the CDC been right on? Why are we having a measles outbreak now, when these champions of public health were still in charge?; 9/1/25, 7:43 AM
Eric the Fruit Bat said...: I don't recall such a fuss being made when they sold off the last of the helium reserve but there must have been some fuss, somewhere.; 9/1/25, 7:44 AM
gilbar said...: "He canceled investments in promising medical research that will leave us financially disadvantaged"

THIS is the main thing, isn't it?
of these "former directors".. how many are NOW working FOR big pharma?; 9/1/25, 7:44 AM
Howard said...: I fucking hate when people add up time spent by multiple people over the same period and claiming it's some huge amount of experience. It's a sign of weakness and irrelevant to the subject at hand. It's only purpose is to impress civilians, small children and women.; 9/1/25, 7:45 AM
Iman said...: Be still, my schadenboner.; 9/1/25, 7:46 AM
Achilles said...: Ampersand said...

This one will play out as a propaganda war over the next decade. The public health establishment has a superior set of propaganda weapons, so the RFK team is at a disadvantage.

The old tools are broken. X is now the town square.

The information is out there and it was never very popular to have a food supply as absurd as ours. People are able to share information now and the corporate "science" cartel is being outed.

For example it is now widely known now that the Sugar industry paid for the research that made cholesterol the scapegoat for diseases cause by metabolic disease. It has always been true but that information is now becoming available. A lot of people know who Ancel Keys is now too. The more people learn about him the more the whole edifice will decay.

The CDC is full of idiots and tools and corrupt bureaucrats. They just did what the corporations told them to. Sunshine is coming and the roaches are scurrying.; 9/1/25, 7:48 AM
FormerLawClerk said...: Are these the same people who said the virus can't get through a mask?

Or that viruses can't travel more than 6 feet in a grocery store?

Or that it's OK to attend densely packed protests during a worldwide pandemic?

Or that it's OK to visit Chinatown restaurants, because they're immune to the virus?

Or that restricting travel from highly-infected areas isn't necessary?

Are these the same fucking goddamned idiots who said all that stupid shit?

Because I recognize these names.; 9/1/25, 7:49 AM
rhhardin said...: Food-fight pyramid.; 9/1/25, 7:50 AM
Dave Begley said...: We voted for fewer worthless federal bureaucrats.; 9/1/25, 7:50 AM
rehajm said...: I do not buy whatever it is they are selling, mostly because every one on their side is selling the same product. Clearly there is an oversupply…; 9/1/25, 7:51 AM
Jamie said...: programs designed to protect Americans from cancer, heart attacks, strokes, lead poisoning, injury, violence and more.

How? By discouraging smoking, for the first three? That's an ad campaign, and one to which we've all been exposed for fifty years. By... getting lead out of household paint and pipes? Done decades ago. How has the CDC or any of its programs protected us from "injury" or "violence"? Public service announcements not to go up on ladders without a spotter? Posters in workplaces?

And then we have the ever-present weasel word to indicate good intentions: "designed." Did they work, these programs?

Talk, talk, talk.; 9/1/25, 7:52 AM
Lawnerd said...: My work in science and law has instilled a deep skepticism of experts. Given my education and experience I am an expert in aspects of molecular biology and IP law. But I know that I am subject to many cognitive biases that all humans are subject to. All experts that I have worked with are motivated by advancing their careers, this often means pushing ideas and pet theories which are the basis of their fame and reputations. For this reason their advice needs to be viewed through a lens of critical thinking. The problem is that decision makers often lack critical thinking skills and take the expert advice as absolute truth and any questioning of the advice as heresy.; 9/1/25, 7:54 AM
JAORE said...: From the AIDs epidemic to today, tell me where these experts have been right. Now have them explain why "if you get the vaccine you can not get or transmit Covid" was true. Tell me why Monkey Pox prevention via abstaining from risky sex was outweighed by a Friday night good time. Tell me why 6 feet distancing was useful. Tell me why cloth masks were effective. Tell me why NASCAR was a "super spreader" event but John Lewis' funerals and BLM marches were OK.
Tell me why I should listen to the experts of the left on health (or damn near any subject).
Please do.; 9/1/25, 7:54 AM
Kakistocracy said...: Whether it’s Republican Donald Trump defunding NIH or Democrat Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. gutting the CDC, both parties are to blame for the demise of America’s scientific institutions. And when Trump and RFK Jr are talking about all these medical cuts… they don’t mean insulin and OxyContin right?; 9/1/25, 7:55 AM
Kakistocracy said...: Trump and RFK Jr. are betting that suburban moms care more about nonsense they read in Goop than about scientifically certified treatments for their children.; 9/1/25, 7:55 AM
Jersey Fled said...: Seems like they couldn’t even get 51.; 9/1/25, 7:57 AM
Lawnerd said...: I should add that journalists are the absolute worst when it comes to experts. They often over state the implications of research findings or expert opinions to make their news stories more likely to be read.; 9/1/25, 7:58 AM
Quaestor said...: Incompetence, corruption, and collusion ought to get them jailed, yet they complain about dismissals

American life expectancy is down; infant mortality is up. Obesity is a pandemic, and autism is steadily rising. Every health metric in the United States is either trending strongly negative or barely holding steady. Nothing has substantially improved in decades.

"We ran the C.D.C.," is an admission of guilt.; 9/1/25, 7:59 AM
Birches said...: Another 51 signatories huh. Does anyone take them seriously after Covid?; 9/1/25, 7:59 AM
Inga said...: “Why are we having a measles outbreak now, when these champions of public health were still in charge?”

Because people who have bought into the vaccine hysteria haven’t vaccinated their children against measles.; 9/1/25, 8:00 AM
Leland said...: Were there 51 signatories?

Yep, they got a playbook with one page.; 9/1/25, 8:00 AM
Iman said...: Goop, kak?
You’re soaking in it…; 9/1/25, 8:01 AM
Birches said...: The measles outbreaks have nothing to do with hippie moms in San Francisco and more to do with unfettered immigration from everywhere else.; 9/1/25, 8:01 AM
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...: Like the vaporous condition of their collective "expertise" the excerpts of the article are remarkably fact free. "Unqualified," they bark yet provide no evidence. "Unscientific," they bleat with the lowest measurement of self-awareness ever recorded in a sentient being, having skipped every step of the Scientific Method in making their serially incorrect decisions during COVID.

Who is left that would invest ANY trust in the weasels who penned this ineffective propaganda?; 9/1/25, 8:02 AM
Bob B said...: In answer to Kak, I’m sure too many suburban moms agree with the CDC experts that an exception to a national quarantine order is densely packed protests for the latest left-wing cause.; 9/1/25, 8:03 AM
FormerLawClerk said...: Because people who have bought into the vaccine hysteria haven’t vaccinated their children against measles.

Or, and I'm just fucking spitballing here ... maybe we imported measles from the third world by opening our borders to people who were never vaccinated in their home country.

As was predicted.

As Dan Ackroid used to say: "Jane, you ignorant slut."; 9/1/25, 8:04 AM
tolkein said...: The performance of the CDC during Covid is a reflection of the leadership of the CDC at the time.That leadership should go and new leadership found. Don't cry for them, I expect they'll be well looked after.; 9/1/25, 8:05 AM
Howard said...: How successful have these top govy health leaders been during their careers? Gemini answers "Has US life expectancy declined over the last 30-years?":

U.S. life expectancy has decreased, plateaued, and then declined over the last 30 years, reaching a recent low in 2021 before a modest rebound. After a long period of consistent gains throughout the 20th century, progress stagnated in the 2010s before a sharp drop driven by the COVID-19 pandemic and other crises.
Timeline of changes
Late 1990s and 2000s: U.S. life expectancy continued to increase, reaching a peak of 78.9 years in 2014.
2014–2019: Gains stalled, and life expectancy even saw a modest decline in the years leading up to the pandemic. This was largely driven by a rise in "deaths of despair," primarily suicides and drug overdoses.
2020–2021: Life expectancy experienced a historic two-year decline, the largest since the 1920s, falling to 76.4 years. This drop was mainly due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
2022–2023: Life expectancy rebounded to 78.4 years in 2023, reflecting a significant decline in COVID-19 deaths.
Compared to other countries: Despite the recent rebound, the U.S. lags behind other wealthy nations in life expectancy, a trend that began in the 1990s.
Key causes of the decline
The stagnation and decline in life expectancy are not caused by a single factor, but rather a combination of ongoing and new public health crises.; 9/1/25, 8:06 AM
FormerLawClerk said...: These fucking retard "scientists" - alleged - just don't get it: You can spend a lifetime of work building up your credibility, but you can only spend it once.; 9/1/25, 8:07 AM
mezzrow said...: Verse 1
I used to fall in line, keep my head down low
Checking all the boxes, doing what I’m told
But the world keeps changing, and I finally see
The only voice I’m chasing is the one in me

Pre-Chorus
No more echoes, no more chains
I won’t play their old refrain
If they push, I’ll push away
I’ve got my own say

Chorus
Being compelled by authority
Isn’t what it used to be
I’m breaking free, I’m breaking free
That power don’t have a hold on me
Being compelled by authority
Isn’t what it used to be

Verse 2
I hear the old guard talking, trying to turn me around
But their rules are crumbling, falling to the ground
I’ll write my own story, loud and unafraid
Tomorrow’s in my hands, it’s mine to make

(Then back into Pre-Chorus + Chorus)

Bridge
Hands up high, we’re not afraid
Sing it loud, we won’t obey
Every voice a melody
We’re the new majority

(Chorus repeats, even bigger)

Slop away, fellow posters!!; 9/1/25, 8:07 AM
Kakistocracy said...: Oh my God, this is perfect.

‘Quack,’ or ‘disruptor’: Trump pick RFK Jr. gets mixed reviews ~ Politico

Politico really earning the nickname of "Tiger beat on the Potomac"; 9/1/25, 8:07 AM
tolkein said...: I wish I could uptick Former Law Clerk's comment.; 9/1/25, 8:08 AM
Inga said...: People who have had measles will have lifetime immunity. People who have been vaccinated against measles will not get measles even if exposed to a roomful of people with measles.

Gemini says…
“Measles outbreaks are caused by the highly contagious measles virus spreading in populations with low vaccination rates. The virus spreads through the air, and can remain active for hours after an infected person leaves a room. Declining vaccination rates due to vaccine hesitancy and misinformation have contributed to resurgent outbreaks, as more people become susceptible to the virus.”; 9/1/25, 8:08 AM
Howard said...: More success stories from their collective public health careers:

Obesity rates in the U.S. have increased significantly over the last 30 years, with the adult obesity rate rising by approximately 70% from around 15% in the late 1970s to nearly 40% in the 2015-2016 period. The prevalence of childhood and adolescent obesity has also more than doubled, becoming a major public health concern.; 9/1/25, 8:10 AM
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...: Wrong: Because people who have bought into the vaccine hysteria haven’t vaccinated their children against measles

Right: Birches at 8:01

And everyone here knows it, understands it, and is honest and wants to solve it or is lying and blaming MAGA. There is only ONE vaccine MAGA refused and acted against. The dishonest and unscientific reaction of the "experts" is the source of all the new vaccine skepticism. Leftists have no one to blame but themselves for the loss of trust in the ironically named Public Health establishment.; 9/1/25, 8:10 AM
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...: So follow the evidence Inga: to which exactly "populations that have low vaccination rates" is the quoted text referring? There are really only two that I've encountered (both plentiful in SoCal) well-off suburban liberals who love organic foods and holistic medicine and illegal immigrants. Those are the only two populations in which measles outbreaks are happening. And they do tend to cluster together.

I welcome any evidence to the contrary you have.; 9/1/25, 8:16 AM
Peachy said...: He cancelled beagle torture.
Leftists cry.; 9/1/25, 8:18 AM
Howard said...: Prior to COVID, magical thinking lefties dominated the anti vaccine demographic. Since then, it's dominated by the conspiracy addicted right.; 9/1/25, 8:18 AM
Peachy said...: Vaccine suspicion stated decades ago.
After the Covid Jab Fascism, pushed by leftists - Trust has been lost.

leftists are not trust-worthy.; 9/1/25, 8:21 AM
Inga said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 9/1/25, 8:25 AM
Inga said...: Gemini…
Major outbreaks in 2025
Texas, New Mexico, and Oklahoma: The largest outbreak began in a low-vaccination community in Gaines County, Texas, in January 2025. It has since spread to New Mexico and Oklahoma, and accounts for the majority of the year's cases.
This regional outbreak has resulted in two confirmed deaths in unvaccinated children in Texas and one in an unvaccinated adult in New Mexico.

Wisconsin: As of late August 2025, health officials have confirmed 14 cases in Oconto County, indicating community spread. All cases were linked to a common exposure outside of the state.

Other states: Multiple other states have reported outbreak-related cases, including California, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, and Ohio. In Michigan, an outbreak was linked to a large one in Canada.

Contributing factors to the rise in cases
Declining vaccination rates: Measles vaccination coverage among U.S. kindergarteners has fallen since the COVID-19 pandemic, dropping below the 95% threshold needed for herd immunity.

Global outbreaks: A surge in measles activity around the world increases the risk of imported cases into the U.S.. In 2025, the CDC has reported multiple measles cases among international travelers.

Vaccine misinformation: Public health officials have noted a rise in vaccine hesitancy, which contributes to lower vaccination rates and increases the vulnerability of communities.”

Again… there are no measles outbreaks among populations that are fully vaccinated.; 9/1/25, 8:29 AM
Peachy said...: Soviet Lying leftists pushing "science" - should be rejected.; 9/1/25, 8:29 AM
Peachy said...: Can we agree that Inga posing AI crap should be deleted?; 9/1/25, 8:30 AM
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...: I find Inga's use of the term "vaccine hysteria" fascinating both for its irony and completely inappropriate attempt to use it as an epithet directed at conservatives. Hysteria was purposely ginned up for a flu outbreak milder than any previously declared epidemic, by the same people who penned this article, and used for tyrannical purposes by them. Our side was skeptical of a both the rushed production of an experimental mRNA and the dishonest campaign to force it on everyone.

Prior to that there was almost zero antivax talk or action on the right. It was exclusively found on the Left and usually only wealthier lefties made up the movement and sought exception to school requirements for vaccines. This attempt to blame shift onto the right is laughable. Our common ground with RFK Jr. is entirely premised on his promise to reintroduce the Scientific Method and adherence to it. Every move he has made so far shows promise. If he strays from that path he will be fired too.

What success can these idiots who walked out point to in their public service?; 9/1/25, 8:31 AM
Peachy said...: This is interesting.; 9/1/25, 8:31 AM
Inga said...: Gemini…

Research and public health data show a connection between lower vaccination rates in conservative-leaning communities and an increase in measles outbreaks. While measles outbreaks are not exclusive to any political group, studies confirm that political polarization and vaccine misinformation have negatively impacted vaccination rates among right-wing citizens.

Data on political affiliation and vaccination
Recent polls and research confirm a link between political affiliation and vaccine hesitancy.

Reduced concern: An April 2025 KFF tracking poll found that Republicans were significantly less likely than Democrats to be aware of and worried about recent measles outbreaks.

Vaccine beliefs: The same poll found that Republicans were far more skeptical of vaccines, with 1 in 5 believing the measles shot is more dangerous than the disease. In contrast, only 1 in 10 Democrats held that belief.

Politicization of health: A December 2024 analysis from New York University reported that political polarization poses significant health risks, noting that political leaders can link health behavior to partisan identity rather than medical needs. This can undermine trust in medical expertise and ignore scientific approaches.

"Spillover" from COVID-19: A June 2024 Harvard Misinformation Review study found that negative attitudes toward COVID-19 vaccines among conservatives may have "spilled over" to other routine vaccines like the MMR (measles, mumps, and rubella) shot.; 9/1/25, 8:33 AM
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...: Yes Peachy, but baseless appeals to authority is all Inga has left. She has to quote friendly sources because there are no friendly facts that support her nutball takes.; 9/1/25, 8:34 AM
Dude1394 said...: Let’s just say that 100 years is long overdue for a house cleaning. I no longer trust ANY entrenched group. Everyone has been shown to be corrupted, inefficient, democrat politically leaning and extremely entitled. Faster please.; 9/1/25, 8:36 AM
Inga said...: “Can we agree that Inga posing AI crap should be deleted?”

Why? Afraid of the truth by a non partisan source? Althouse herself has posted numerous things that Grok has said to her.; 9/1/25, 8:36 AM
Inga said...: “She has to quote friendly sources because there are no friendly facts that support her nutball takes.”

AI Gemini is a “friendly” source? Is Grok more “friendly” to conservatives? Speaking of nutballs…; 9/1/25, 8:39 AM
Peachy said...: No -inag - You are littering threads.; 9/1/25, 8:39 AM
BarrySanders20 said...: He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:; 9/1/25, 8:39 AM
Rocco said...: Eric the Fruit Bat said...
“I don't recall such a fuss being made when they sold off the last of the helium reserve but there must have been some fuss, somewhere.”

There was, but the high squeaky voices caused people to not take the fuss seriously.; 9/1/25, 8:42 AM
Peachy said...: This creep is gone from the CDC. Good. More please.; 9/1/25, 8:44 AM
Saint Croix said...: William Foege - appointed by Carter (89)
William Roper - appointed by George Herbert Walker Bush
David Satcher - appointed by Clinton
Jeffrey Koplan -- appointed by Clinton
Richard Besser - acting director under Obama
Tom Frieden -- appointed by Obama
Anne Schuchat -- acting director under Trump
Rochelle Walensky -- appointed by Biden
Mandy Cohen -- acting director under Biden

Non-partisan? Or a highly partisan letter with one RINO (who's currently working at a public university and desperately clinging to that gig)

CDC directors who did not sign on...

Robert Redfield (appointed by Trump)
Brenda Fitzgerald (appointed by Trump)
Julie Gerberding (appointed by W)

The other thing I noticed is that it's routine for administrations to want their own CDC director. And they accept the resignation of the previous CDC director. That's why you have so many "acting directors," because the previous head of the CDC is out, and the #2 is in charge.

It was highly unusual for the Trump administration to confirm Monarez, an acting director and a holdover from the Biden administration. I see that as Kennedy's willingness to work with Democrats. And she bit him on the ass as soon as she got confirmed.

Anyway, nothing-burger. Or Hitler strikes again, I guess, if that's your brain.; 9/1/25, 8:46 AM
Inga said...: Grok…

In 2025, measles outbreaks have surged globally and in the United States, driven primarily by low vaccination rates and vaccine hesitancy. Here’s a detailed overview of the latest measles outbreaks based on available data:
United States

• Case Count and Spread: As of August 26, 2025, the U.S. has reported 1,408 confirmed measles cases across 43 jurisdictions, including Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York City, New York State, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, and Wyoming. This is the highest annual case count since 1992, surpassing the 1,274 cases reported in 2019.

• Outbreaks: There have been 35 outbreaks in 2025, with 86% of cases (1,214 of 1,408) linked to these outbreaks, compared to 16 outbreaks and 69% outbreak-associated cases in 2024. The largest outbreak, centered in Gaines County, Texas, began in January 2025 and has spread to 24 Texas counties, four New Mexico counties, and northeastern Oklahoma, accounting for 82% of U.S. cases.

• Texas Outbreak: Texas reported 762 cases by August 12, 2025, primarily in West Texas, with 99 hospitalizations and two deaths (unvaccinated school-aged children). The outbreak was declared over on August 18, 2025, after no new cases were reported for eight weeks.

• New Mexico: New Mexico reported 74 cases by May 2025, with one adult death. The outbreak is linked to the Texas outbreak, particularly in Lea County, which borders Gaines County.

• Vaccination Status: Approximately 96% of U.S. cases involved unvaccinated individuals or those with unknown vaccination status. Only 2% of cases were in individuals with two doses of the MMR vaccine, highlighting its 97% effectiveness with two doses.

• Deaths: Three deaths have been reported in the U.S. in 2025: two unvaccinated children in Texas and one adult in New Mexico. These are the first measles-related deaths in the U.S. since 2019.

• Public Health Concerns: The U.S. risks losing its measles elimination status (achieved in 2000) if outbreaks persist for over a year due to continuous transmission. Declining MMR vaccination rates among kindergarteners (92.7% in 2023–2024, below the 95% target) and vaccine hesitancy, exacerbated post-COVID, are key drivers.; 9/1/25, 8:48 AM
RCOCEAN II said...: You can't fire me, I'm Susan Monarez. IM Susan Monarez. Seems she refused to resign. Then contacted Senator Cuck Cassidy to get his help, then finally left taking 3 others with her.

Most of those who signed the letter are Biden, Clinton, Obama appointees. No surprise. Not signing the letter - Fitzgerald, Redfield, Gerberding. CDC heads under Trump I and Bush II; 9/1/25, 8:48 AM
Inga said...: “You are littering threads.”

That would be your dumb commentary.; 9/1/25, 8:49 AM
Peachy said...: The collective Soviet-Democratic Media, the Biden administration/ Social Media under threats + - would not allow anyone to know the facts - that the COVID Virus was created in a lab in Wuhan China - and that Lab received "gain of function" funds from US tax payers.. without our permission.

These Soviet -Democratic Government and Media apparatchiks all lied and to us with their ridiculous COVID is from "A WET MARKET" lie.
But - hey - the NYT (D) - insists you must trust the Soviet -Democratic Fauci- mites that litter the CDC.; 9/1/25, 8:50 AM
Peachy said...: Inag - Really - you have zero credibility . Russia Russia Russia.; 9/1/25, 8:52 AM
Inga said...: Grok…

Vaccine hesitancy, a key driver of measles outbreaks, stems from a mix of psychological, social, historical, and systemic factors. Here’s a breakdown of the primary causes based on recent data and trends:
1. Misinformation and Distrust:
• Spread of False Information: Social media platforms, including X, have amplified myths about vaccines, such as claims linking the MMR vaccine to autism, despite debunking by studies like the 1998 Wakefield paper retraction. Misinformation often spreads faster than accurate information, fueled by echo chambers.
• Distrust in Institutions: Skepticism toward pharmaceutical companies, government agencies (e.g., CDC), and healthcare systems has grown, particularly post-COVID-19, due to perceived overreach or conflicting public health messaging. For example, 24% of U.S. adults in a 2023 Pew survey expressed low confidence in vaccine safety.

Cultural and Religious Beliefs:
• Religious Exemptions: Some communities, like certain religious groups in the U.S. (e.g., in Gaines County, Texas, during the 2025 outbreak), cite religious objections to vaccination. These beliefs often intersect with personal freedom arguments.
• Cultural Norms: In some cultures, traditional remedies or skepticism about Western medicine reduce vaccine uptake.; 9/1/25, 8:54 AM
Peachy said...: Perhaps the left are to blame for Measles on the rise.

After all the COVID forced jabs and the COVID lies...
When collective soviet-leftists lie and lie and lie - eventually - the trust is so eroded - bad shit happens.; 9/1/25, 8:55 AM
Bob Boyd said...: "Where the hell is everybody going? We're your leaders, not that guy! Come back here! Come back here you idiots. We must all keep doing what we've always done even if it doesn't work! It's very important! Why can't you see that?"; 9/1/25, 8:59 AM
n.n said...: Misinformation, disinformation, malinformation and handmade tales.; 9/1/25, 9:02 AM
Peachy said...: Bob Boyd - 8:59 - precisely.
The Corrupt lying Democratic-Left universally killed trust.
Consequences.

NYT lectures about "misinformation" - f. off NYT.; 9/1/25, 9:02 AM
Inga said...: Hey everyone must put their trust in RFK Jr. because… why?; 9/1/25, 9:04 AM
John Ray said...: FormerLawClerk nailed it three times in one morning, I want some of that coffee. Also, I am with Peaches today.; 9/1/25, 9:05 AM
Peachy said...: Good News - Inga. You are not required to trust RKJ jr.

The rest of us do not trust Russia Russia Russia lie-buyers, who refuse to admit they pushed lies.; 9/1/25, 9:07 AM
exhelodrvr1 said...: Good thing there hasn’t been a recent massive influx of unvaccinated people; 9/1/25, 9:11 AM
Saint Croix said...: there's a strain of rabies where the animals get very, very friendly

Wouldn't it suck if she had the "friendly rabies," and so they made her head of the CDC, and then she got a shot and went back to her mean animal ways.

That could be a screenplay!; 9/1/25, 9:12 AM
Saint Croix said...: oh wait, there's no cure for rabies

she's got to go; 9/1/25, 9:13 AM
Saint Croix said...: It would be funny if they had to vaccinate the CDC; 9/1/25, 9:14 AM
Peachy said...: exhelo... - I see what you did there.

Yeah - no mention by the corrupt lying left that millions of Soros-Joe's Illegal Immigrants brought in some bad diseases.; 9/1/25, 9:15 AM
Saint Croix said...: Is the CDC having any luck finding a vaccine for TDS?

I don't want that shit.

Is it catching?

Maybe I got natural immunity.; 9/1/25, 9:16 AM
Inga said...: “Good News - Inga. You are not required to trust RKJ jr.”

Good news indeed!

Grok just for Peachy…

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., as the U.S. Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary, has a history that raises concerns about his credibility in providing medical advice. Here are the primary reasons, grounded in evidence and critical analysis, why he should not be trusted for medical guidance:
1. History of Promoting Misinformation:
• Vaccine Skepticism: Kennedy has a long record of spreading debunked claims about vaccines, notably the discredited theory that vaccines cause autism. Despite overwhelming scientific evidence, including decades of studies showing no link, he has persisted in questioning vaccine safety. For instance, during a 2025 House hearing, he avoided directly endorsing the measles vaccine, stating, “I don’t think people should be taking medical advice from me,” despite his role overseeing vaccine policy.
• False Claims: He has made unfounded assertions, such as claiming the MMR vaccine contains “aborted fetus debris” or that vaccines are “leaky” and lose effectiveness, both refuted by experts. These statements contribute to vaccine hesitancy, linked to the 2025 U.S. measles outbreak (1,408 cases, 96% in unvaccinated individuals).
• Other Health Misinformation: Kennedy has promoted unproven treatments, like cod liver oil for measles, and claimed environmental toxins (often code for vaccines) are the primary cause of autism, ignoring genetic research. He also suggested during a 2025 press briefing that he can diagnose “mitochondrial challenges” or “inflammation” in children by looking at them, despite lacking a medical degree.
2. Lack of Medical Expertise:
• Kennedy is not a medical professional; he is a lawyer by training. His assertions, such as diagnosing health conditions visually or claiming 38% of U.S. teenagers are diabetic/pre-diabetic (when CDC data shows 0.35% of those under 20 have diabetes), demonstrate a lack of scientific rigor.
• Experts like Dr. Katelyn Jetelina and Georges Benjamin of the American Public Health Association have criticized his lack of qualifications, noting that his role as HHS Secretary—overseeing agencies like the CDC and NIH—requires expertise he does not possess.
3. Conflict with Public Health Role:
• As HHS Secretary, Kennedy’s job includes providing evidence-based health guidance, yet he has disclaimed responsibility for giving medical advice, as seen in his May 14, 2025, congressional testimony. This undermines public trust, especially during outbreaks like the 2025 measles crisis, where his hesitancy to endorse vaccines clearly has fueled vaccine refusal.
• His actions, like swimming in a contaminated creek to downplay health risks, suggest a disregard for established public health protocols, further eroding his credibility.
4. Impact on Public Health:
• Kennedy’s rhetoric has been linked to real-world harm. His advocacy in Samoa in 2019 contributed to a measles outbreak with 83 deaths, mostly children, due to vaccine hesitancy. In the U.S., his influence has been cited in the 2025 Texas measles outbreak, where low vaccination rates (e.g., 46% in some schools) led to 762 cases and two deaths.
• His proposed cuts to health agencies, including $18 billion from the NIH and the elimination of CDC programs, have raised alarms among experts about weakened disease surveillance and response, exacerbating risks during outbreaks.; 9/1/25, 9:17 AM
Saint Croix said...: They've dramatically increased the vaccines for babies, to a ridiculous number.

I suspect they've compromised immune systems. They've made children weaker. For instance, the dramatic increase in peanut allergies.; 9/1/25, 9:19 AM
Bob Boyd said...: "Look! Look! I have these amazing credentials! See!
Shit. They won't even look."; 9/1/25, 9:20 AM
Peachy said...: Inag - don't bother. You are littering threads. I am not going to read anything you cut and paste.

Do fuck off.; 9/1/25, 9:25 AM
Kakistocracy said...: Through its work in disease prevention, the CDC has saved millions of lives throughout the globe. Some of Trump's partisan critics question his plan to dismantle it.; 9/1/25, 9:26 AM
Inga said...: “I am not going to read anything you cut and paste.”

Because you are a dummy.; 9/1/25, 9:30 AM
Kakistocracy said...: This is actually fascinating. It appears to me that someone finally got to him on the lunacy of RFK Jr. This could be the beginning of an off-ramp.

“It is very important that the Drug Companies justify the success of their various Covid Drugs. Many people think they are a miracle that saved Millions of lives. Others disagree! With CDC being ripped apart over this question, I want the answer, and I want it NOW. I have been shown information from Pfizer, and others, that is extraordinary, but they never seem to show those results to the public. Why not??? They go off to the next “hunt” and let everyone rip themselves apart, including Bobby Kennedy Jr. and CDC, trying to figure out the success or failure of the Drug Companies Covid work. They show me GREAT numbers and results, but they don’t seem to be showing them to many others. I want them to show them NOW, to CDC and the public, and clear up this MESS, one way or the other!!! I hope OPERATION WARP SPEED was as “BRILLIANT” as many say it was. If not, we all want to know about it, and why??? Thank you for your attention to this very important matter! ~ Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump; 9/1/25, 9:30 AM
Aggie said...: Some are becoming the oracle of A.I. 'Hey! I'll ask Grok and then just post the answers, because A.I.knows it all, and what it doesn't know, it'll make up and sound legit !'

Didn't RFK Jr. say that some kind of big news was coming in September? Is this just a front-running campaign by the disaffected?; 9/1/25, 9:32 AM
Inga said...: “They show me GREAT numbers and results, but they don’t seem to be showing them to many others. I want them to show them NOW, to CDC and the public, and clear up this MESS, one way or the other!!! I hope OPERATION WARP SPEED was as “BRILLIANT” as many say it was. If not, we all want to know about it, and why???”

So Trump, if you’ve seen the GREAT numbers and results, why don’t YOU publish them?; 9/1/25, 9:36 AM
stlcdr said...: Notice how leftists always perform the Appeal to Authority - copy-pasta from anywhere. I see Inga is using Grok, most likely because they think because AA uses it, then it's an authority (sic) that the sane posters here will accept.; 9/1/25, 9:38 AM
Original Mike said...: I lost respect for the CDC when they veered into gun control. Whatever you think of gun control, it should not be the purview of the Center for DISEASE Control. Eliminate disease first, then you can indulge your whims.; 9/1/25, 9:42 AM
JRoberts said...: Due to some specialized medical care my wife is receiving at Emory University, we've driven by the CDC frequently over the last eight months - in particular, through the CDC entrance intersection where the recent shootings took place.

Every time, we've seen a combination of protesters and/or signs expressing anger with Trump/RFK Jr./etc. Without exception, those protests were in defense of social science, not medical science.; 9/1/25, 9:46 AM
Peachy said...: You have no credibility - lying Inag.; 9/1/25, 9:50 AM
RCOCEAN II said...: What makes this so funny, is RFK is firing his own CDC director. Guess it not "authoritarianism" when he hired her, but despotic behavior when he fired her.; 9/1/25, 9:51 AM
RCOCEAN II said...: "Hey everyone must put their trust in RFK Jr."

Said nobody ever.; 9/1/25, 9:52 AM
Peachy said...: I do trust that our corruption and money-whoring democratic-Soviet/ paid-to-lie infected government agencies need purging of frauds and lairs.; 9/1/25, 9:55 AM
Bob Boyd said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 9/1/25, 9:57 AM
Breezy said...: Given the number of illegal immigrants entering our country, including 300k missing children, I’d venture a good number of those measles cases are among that group. The illegal population gets ER care, after all. Plus, it’s not just vaccine hesitancy, it’s access to vaccines to begin with. It’s not proven of course, but one can speculate that the measles outbreak was due to a large population of unknown vax status entering our country. The timing of the outbreak supports that theory. Just a theory though afaik.; 9/1/25, 10:17 AM
n.n said...: The problem with inoculations is several fold: cohort risk, schedules, adjuvants, toxicity, and persistence. Non-sterilizing jabs are not vaccines.; 9/1/25, 10:20 AM
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...: "Said nobody ever"

Even RC and I agree. Please Inga, get your own blog if you want to post AI generated leftist opinion pieces. Or learn to write in your own words expressing your own opinion instead of a stupid machine trained on NYT columns.; 9/1/25, 10:23 AM
Inga said...: So Grok is leftist now that I’m quoting it to refute the garbage you post, lol.; 9/1/25, 10:26 AM
Steven said...: Some months ago I had an exchange on Facebook with a friend regarding the measles outbreak. She had posted a screed that basically blamed the measles outbreak in Texas on Trump supporters who reject vaccinations. I responded that perhaps the unvetted illegal immigration might have played a role in the outbreak, especially since the outbreak was close to the Mexican border.

My suggestion that the outbreak had origins other than "Orange Man Bad" provoked a nasty response that encouraged me to make further research. Here are some of my conclusions:

1) Measles vaccination rates in Mexico and Central America have been quite high--the anti-measles campaign has been very effective over the last several decades.

2) The Texas measles outbreak originated in the Mennonite community after a family visited relatives on the Mexican side of the border and returned to the United States with the infected family member(s).

3) Most commentary (including the comments posted here) avoid noting that the outbreaks originated in the Mennonite community. My suspicion is that throwing the religious angle into the debate opens up a discussion about religious exemption for vaccines that progressives do not want to have because it deflects the blame from MAGA supporters, attacks a religious group that is generally viewed favorably by the American public, and may interfere with exemption policies that the progressives may want to push for its own favored religious communities.

4) There is a major measles outbreak in Canada that is ignored by progressives because it cannot be blamed on MAGA. That outbreak, however, is also centered on the Mennonite community.

5) While it does not appear that illegal immigration has played a significant role in the measles outbreak, it is hard to pin blame for it on MAGA since the outbreaks are not restricted to the United States.

6) Progressives who are concerned about overall (not just measles) vaccine rates among Trump supporters are general unconcerned about other diseases being introduced by unvetted illegal immigrants or international travelers. There seemed to have been zero concern about covid vaccination rates among the illegal immigrants, even as progressives pushed to demonize Americans who refused the vaccine. Indeed, legal immigrants had visas revoked by the Biden regime for refusal to get the covid vaccine (I know one such case personally).

7) Despite the outpouring of concern for the two children who died from measles-related causes in early 2025, it was never about the children. The three deaths from congenital syphilis in New York State alone so far in 2025 has evoked no corresponding outrage about the growing syphilis epidemic in the United States. The public health system has completely failed these infants who are contracting syphilis from their mothers. Apparently, like monkey pox, congenital syphilis must be allowed to flourish because because of the greater good of sexual freedom.; 9/1/25, 10:31 AM
Inga said...: Here is an example of MJB Wolf’s brilliant and beautifully written comment on the death of Biden…lol.

“Mike (MJB Wolf) said...
Where is Joe and how is he doing? Remember his brother Fred referred to "spending whatever time he has left" with him. These ten facts still need more scrutiny and sunshine:

1. UMC emergency operations confirm to NBC affiliate KSNV they were on stand-by to receive POTUS with "unspecified medical emergency."
2. A few minutes later plans changed again, police were then redeployed to "clear roads to Harry Reid International Airport" (confirmation by at least six on-duty LV Metro officers).
3. Reported over radio by US Secret Service that POTUS would be "medevac" transported on Air Force One to "Johns Hopkins" in Maryland.
4. Press were on the "extremely fast" flight to Dover AFB, Emily Goodin WH correspondent for The Daily Mail said Air Force One made it from Las Vegas to Dover in 3 hours and 45 minutes (normally 4 hours 50 minutes), flying so fast the "plane was shaking."
5. No confirmation Biden was ever seen at Johns Hopkins.
6. White House reported he was "recovering from COVID" in Rehoboth Beach.
7. Clergy capable of "giving absolution" were spotted in the immediate vicinity of Biden's beach house (on X).
8. No one other than WH physician (and Jim Biden business partner) Dr. Kevin O'Connor has reported seeing Biden and speaking with him (Sunday, July 21 four days after "emergency" evacuation).
9. All of president Biden's scheduled appearances this week are canceled, including meeting with Israeli PM Netanyahu; no calls from Biden to foreign leaders to explain change in plans. Update: He will allegedly speak to the nation tomorrow.
10. No video, radio or live appearances by Biden since Wednesday, July 17 -- six days ago as of now. Note the last sighting was him struggling to get in the SUV at Dover AFB after landing from that "fast" Vegas flight.

And he has a history of brain aneurysms, at least two known.”

7/23/24, 11:22 AM

https://althouse.blogspot.com/2024/07/president-joe-biden-reportedly.html#comment-form; 9/1/25, 10:33 AM
Peachy said...: No Inag - You have no credibility.; 9/1/25, 10:34 AM
Bob Boyd said...: Highly recommend listening to the Sharyl Attkisson Podcast, Episode 300, Measles: The Govt's Fear Factor
It's only about 30 minutes long. Very interesting.; 9/1/25, 10:38 AM
Inga said...: “You have no credibility.”

You have no smarts.; 9/1/25, 10:48 AM
Zavier Onasses said...: What HHS and CDC
Did during the WuHan Flu
To awaken Public perception
To Buraucracy's evil intention
Is a marvel to behold.; 9/1/25, 10:52 AM
Deep State Reformer said...: Fuck them. Under those letter writing goofs the CDC has made half the country afraid they'll grow another head or get cancer from taking the vaccines they so loudly advocated & vouched for and today all the decades of respect and trust in the CDC are long gone. Screw their opinions. Elections have consequences.; 9/1/25, 11:06 AM
Lazarus said...: While measles and Mennonites may go together. It should also be pointed out that not all illegal immigrants were from Mexico or Central America (where vaccination campaigns may have been successful). Bidenmigration came from everywhere, including countries like the Congo, where measles is prevalent.; 9/1/25, 11:15 AM
Hassayamper said...: It is an enormously foolish category error to assume that scientists are made of finer clay than the rest of us, and hence immune to prejudices, dishonesty, or self-interested cupidity. The same is true of politicians, or government workers, or actors, or journalists, or teachers, or several other lines of work that often enjoy unwarranted deference.

For some reason, the Left is vastly more obsequious to such persons, often to the point of wanting to imprison those who contradict their pieties and proclamations. Perhaps it reflects a deficit of religious instruction about original sin and the nature of this fallen world when they were young.; 9/1/25, 11:52 AM
JIM said...: I don't remember them sounding the alarm about how our civil rights were bulldozed during their covid lockdown schemes.
These group letters from experts have lost the luster not only because they are arrogant, but because they also appear political.; 9/1/25, 11:59 AM
Leora said...: The CDC was worse than useless during the AIDS epidemic, tried to produce arguments for gun control legislation, politicized lockdown removal in an extremely damaging way, and tried to suppress scientific disagreement to advance propaganda. They are supposed to be providing responses to infectious diseases and have been failing miserably in the time these folks have been in charge. Time for a major change.; 9/1/25, 12:00 PM
Big Mike said...: Kennedy, Jr., could do a lot worse than to bring famed virus hunter C. J. Peters in to vet a CDC director and vet the top two layers of people who report to the CDC director. We don’t need to continue with politicized “scientists.”; 9/1/25, 12:09 PM
Big Mike said...: And as regards the mRNA “vaccines” that don’t actually provide any measurable protection against the disease, perhaps I am overly cautious but I regard “death” as a concerning side effect.; 9/1/25, 12:13 PM
Mason G said...: "These group letters from experts have lost the luster not only because they are arrogant, but because they also appear political."

On the plus side, it helps when these people self-identify so publicly.; 9/1/25, 12:34 PM
John henry said...: Inga, I think you are only a few years behind me, agewise. So I'm guessing you missed the measles vaccine. Ditto Mumps. I had both as a child and would not be surprised to hear that you did too. Most children did, with no ill effects other than a day or two home from school.

John Henry; 9/1/25, 12:40 PM
John henry said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 9/1/25, 12:53 PM
John henry said...: Might the measles outbreaks in our neighbors be affecting our incidence? Along with the unvaccinated, illegal aliens flooding across our borders from areas with high measles rates. (As others have mentioned)

And we are really, really, low compared to our neighbors. Mexico's rate is 9 times ours. Canada is about 25X.

Canada, pop 40mm has had 4,718 measles cases in 2025 as of mid August That is a rate of 12/100m

Mexico, pop 130mm, has had over 4,000 cases or about 3/100m

US Pop 330mm has had 1408 or about 0.4/100m

When you know, you know.

John Henry; 9/1/25, 12:57 PM
Inga said...: I’m younger than Althouse, so no I’m not just a few years behind you.

“So I'm guessing you missed the measles vaccine. Ditto Mumps. I had both as a child and would not be surprised to hear that you did too. Most children did, with no ill effects other than a day or two home from school.”

Not quite.. here’s statistics from Grok…

In the United States during the 1950s, measles was a significant public health concern, with an estimated 3 to 4 million cases annually, though only about 500,000 were reported each year. From these reported cases, approximately 400 to 500 deaths occurred annually, with the majority being children, as measles predominantly affected those under 15 years old. Given that nearly all children contracted measles by age 15, and considering the case fatality rate of about 1 in 1,000 to 1 in 1,205 reported cases, it’s estimated that around 90% of the deaths were among children. This translates to roughly 360 to 450 child deaths per year from measles in the 1950s. Over the decade, this would suggest approximately 3,600 to 4,500 children died from measles in the United States, though exact numbers are challenging due to under-reporting and varying data sources.

Globally, the picture was more severe, with an estimated 2.6 million deaths annually from measles before the vaccine’s introduction in 1963, many of which were children under 5 years old, but specific global child mortality figures for the 1950s are less precise in available records.; 9/1/25, 12:58 PM
Inga said...: “Most children did, with no ill effects other than a day or two home from school.”

Kids were out of school for a day or two? Um, no.

Grok…
Public health recommendations: Guidelines from health authorities, such as those reflected in mid-20th-century medical texts or school health policies, typically advised keeping children home for at least 7 days after the rash appeared, or until all symptoms (fever, rash, cough) resolved, which could take up to 10 days in some cases. For example, a 1949 health report suggested a minimum of 7 days isolation from rash onset, with some local school boards extending this to 10 days to be cautious.; 9/1/25, 1:12 PM
Birches said...: Just saw a video where gay Satanic doctor is saying that the resignation people are concerned that RFK Jr. will take the Hep b vaccine off for newborns. If that's their beef, they deserve to lose their jobs. My older kids did not get that vaccine at birth and no one batted an eye. It's only after it became best practice in the hospital that it became a controversy. All of my kids have been vaxxed, but I completely understand why people don't want a hep b vaccine given at birth. Regular people are being punished because health care workers don't want to single out drug users from the rest of us.; 9/1/25, 1:17 PM
Inga said...: “Most children did, with no ill effects…”

Grok’s statistics…
In the 1950s, measles complications affected a significant portion of infected children, with otitis media (7–9%), pneumonia (1–6%), and diarrhea (8%) being the most common, and encephalitis (0.1%) and SSPE (0.004–0.011%) being rarer but more severe. Children under 5 were at highest risk, with pneumonia and encephalitis driving most of the ~360–450 annual child deaths in the U.S. Limited medical interventions and socioeconomic disparities in the 1950s exacerbated these risks, though antibiotics mitigated some bacterial complications. For precise local data or specific case studies, historical public health records or epidemiological studies from the era would be needed.; 9/1/25, 1:18 PM
Dogma and Pony Show said...: "US Pop 330mm has had 1408 or about 0.4/100m"

And apparently those 1408 cases yielded something like THREE total deaths -- out of a population of 330 million!

Clearly, the sky is not falling, and any supposed "authorities" trying to characterize RFK's reign as HHS secretary as constituting a huge threat to America's health are either hopelessly stupid or completely dishonest. Sorry, but my tentative conclusion is that this is simply another dem/MSM propaganda campaign that's being waged solely for political purposes.; 9/1/25, 1:47 PM
gilbar said...: Igna tries to sway us, with THIS..
In the 1950s, measles complications affected a significant portion of infected children, with ..
diarrhea (8%) being the most common

Oh My Motherfucking GODDamn GOD!!
Imagine the Horror! The Horror!!
The MOST COMMON serious complication was.. (wait for it!)
diarrhea 8%

Nearly one out of 12 kids got the poopies!
THE HORROR!

igna PRETENDS that she used to be a nurse..
igna PRETENDS that diarrhea is serious!; 9/1/25, 1:58 PM
Inga said...: “Oh My Motherfucking GODDamn GOD!!”

Breaking news…
Gilbar gets struck by lightening when out fishing.; 9/1/25, 2:11 PM
walter said...: I blame Amish....; 9/1/25, 2:34 PM
Jim at said...: After what those assholes pulled during Covid, they're lucky they're only being fired.

Fuck them all. Every, last one of them.; 9/1/25, 2:41 PM
Jim at said...: Because people who have bought into the vaccine hysteria haven’t vaccinated their children against measles.

Yeah. That must be it. Couldn't have anything to do with millions of unvetted invaders pouring over the border for the last four years. Nope.; 9/1/25, 2:48 PM
Tina Trent said...: I knew some of the earlier ones. They wouldn't fiddle about all the sources of measles outbreaks, be it religious groups, immigrants, and extreme vaccine resistant lefties and rightists. Kennedy screwed up Samoa. Cuomo screwed up New York, including my dear uncle and aunt. They wouldn't lie about covid shot consequences and ineffectualness.

None of them trusted Fauci then, and this was decades ago.; 9/1/25, 2:54 PM
gadfly said...: How can the New York Times be neutral in the face of what looks increasingly like an occupation of government agencies by hostile forces? In the case of the CDC under RFK Jr.’s HHS, it’s damaging the administration of vaccinations to the entire country while undermining the nation’s ability to respond to pandemic and bioterrorism, not to mention its ability to safely provide basic healthcare. No one will be unaffected; no one can be neutral.

A gunman shot up the CDC headquarters a few weeks ago from outside the gates and guards. But like any good horror movie, Trump and RFK Jr. are shooting it up from inside the house. No one who is trained in national health concerns and knows anything about health programs works at the CDC anymore. Policy changes have never been communicated by RFK, Jr. to remaining underlings at CDC and none will be until mid-September soonest. Everything is ending except death,; 9/1/25, 3:08 PM
Lazarus said...: Thomas Jefferson died of diarrhea. Of course he was 83 and had a pack of other health problems and I suppose it was more of a symptom of something else than a disease of its own, but imagine being a kid and reading that factoid in the World Book Encyclopedia. Scary.; 9/1/25, 3:24 PM
Inga said...: “Thomas Jefferson died of diarrhea. Of course he was 83 and had a pack of other health problems and I suppose it was more of a symptom of something else than a disease of its own, but imagine being a kid and reading that factoid in the World Book Encyclopedia. Scary.”

Grok says…
Estimating the number of children who died from diarrhea in the United States during the 1950s is challenging due to limited specific data on diarrhea-related mortality broken down by age group in historical records. However, I can provide an informed estimate based on available data about diarrheal diseases, their impact on children, and the public health context of the 1950s. The focus here is on diarrhea as a primary cause of death or as a complication of diseases like measles, which was a significant contributor to pediatric mortality in that era.

Context of Diarrheal Diseases in the 1950s
• Causes: Diarrhea in children during the 1950s was often caused by infectious agents such as bacterial pathogens (e.g., Shigella, Salmonella, Escherichia coli), viral infections (e.g., rotavirus, which was not yet identified), and parasitic infections. Measles, which affected nearly all children by age 15, also caused diarrhea as a complication in about 8% of cases, contributing to mortality, especially in younger children.

And diarrhea was only ONE of the several complications of measles.; 9/1/25, 3:47 PM
Peachy said...: Leftists (Soviet-Democatics)
We do not trust you.

https://x.com/cjbakermd/status/1962620271757795615; 9/1/25, 4:05 PM
Peachy said...: Leftwing Soviet Democratics are all LIARS and frauds.

Figure it out.; 9/1/25, 4:07 PM
Peachy said...: Democratic Soviet Leftists -y'all can go F yourselves.; 9/1/25, 4:11 PM
Peachy said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 9/1/25, 4:17 PM
Peachy said...: The FACE of the modern Democratic Party; 9/1/25, 4:19 PM
TaeJohnDo said...: Public Health Officials were on shaky ground with me during covid up until they said BLM protests were OK. That convinced me they were completely full of sh!t, not just mostly full of it. Screw them. 20 years or so ago the CDC came out with some new inoculation recommendation. (Don't remember what it was.) I asked my Doc about it and he said, "I'm not getting it and I won't have my kids take it." He told me why, again, I don't remember what it was, but apparently I'm not dead and the kids are OK. I do remember him telling me to get the shingles vax when I got older. Which I did. He was a good doctor. Asked questions, listened and was realistic about expectations.; 9/1/25, 4:55 PM
Craig Mc said...: Did they brag about their covid handling in their letter?; 9/1/25, 5:02 PM
Peachy said...: "The arrogance and self-importance of these
@CDCgov
bureaucrats is beyond belief. The reality is that the US would have been better off with no CDC at all during the pandemic. Their performance was a Chernobyl-level catastrophe. Their incompetence delayed the start of widespread testing at least a month, leading to panicked lockdowns. They forced useless masks over the faces of children for years. They delayed opening of schools for millions of kids. They misinformed the public on safety and efficacy of the vaccines, creating the rationale for the illegal mandates that divided the country. They rubber-stamped covid boosters for healthy kids in the absence of any science or rationale. They cannot credibly argue that the CDC saved a single life.
And their message is still based on fearmongering. It is all that they know and all that they have. Fear of unknown infectious disease "threats."
They have learned nothing at all from the pandemic. Nothing.
https://nytimes.com/2025/09/01/opinion/cdc-leaders-kennedy.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ik8.FeH5.2ccivq0LSEu7&smid=tw-share

Link; 9/1/25, 5:05 PM
cubanbob said...: Something that keeps getting overlooked is that when Trump announced the crash development of the COVID injection luminaries on the Left like K Harris stated they would never take the Trump shot; 9/1/25, 5:23 PM
Mason G said...: "We have each had the honor and privilege of serving as director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.... Collectively, we spent more than 100 years working at the C.D.C...."
"We served under multiple Republican and Democratic administrations...."

And now, somebody else will have the honor and privilege of doing so. Not seeing a problem here.

Unless the point is that the people making that statement believe that out of the 350 million people in the US, they- and they alone- are qualified to hold that position.; 9/1/25, 6:13 PM
Prof. M. Drout said...: Could someone please explain this line of reasoning:
(1) Although there were one or two more deaths in the 'vaccine' group than in the control group, those deaths were discounted because they were cardiovascular events, and vaccines can't cause cardiovascular events.
(2) Even the most rabid defenders of the vaccines now admit the vaccines can cause myocarditis. We all agree on that, right?
(3) But aren't cardiovascular events one of the known consequences of myocarditis?
And yet, according to their defenders, although vaccines CAN cause myocarditis, they CAN'T caused heart attacks, strokes, and other cardiovascular events.
Please explain.; 9/1/25, 8:41 PM
John henry said...: That's an awful lot of argle-bargle to give the impression that you got the measles vaccine and didn't get measles.

Getting measles was nothing to be ashamed of. As you said, nearly all kids got it before age 15. And you were probably too young to get the vaccine. So why not say so? What are you hiding?

John Henry; 9/1/25, 9:09 PM
John henry said...: One of the things CDC missed (or hid?) is excess CO2. When you breathe normal air, you are getting about 0.04% CO2. When you have a mask on, esp an N95 you are rebreathing your exhaled air with about 4% CO2. This is enough to bring the O2 level of the inhaled air down close to 19% which is a danger level.

OSHA has some strict rules about the use of masks in the workplace for this reason. They require them for hazard protection but they also require that they not be worn continuously without a fresh air break. I think the limit is 3 hours.

This is why I wore gauzy, conformal fitting foam masks. Nothing I wore was going to make any difference in protecting me from kung flu. But at least I was not going to expose myself to the risks from excess CO2.

Because my clients required it, I probably got tested for Kung Flu 20-30 times during the scamdemic. Never got it.

I got 1 J&J shot and have had heart problems ever since.

Probably coinkidink everyone tells me.

John Henry; 9/1/25, 9:24 PM
John henry said...: Prior to 2021, the legal definition of "vaccine" for a couple hundred years had hinged on creating near 100%, usually lifetime, immunity.

The MRNA does not do that so USG changed the legal definition to "causes an immune reaction" which they said meant the same thing.

Vaccines do cause an immune reaction leading to immunity which made the traditional definition. The MRNA jab causes an immune reaction but did not always cause immunity. Hence the need to change the def to shield pharma from liability. (If a "vaccine" harms you, you have limited recourse. If a regular medicine kills you you can sue their asses off. )

John Henry; 9/1/25, 9:30 PM
walter said...: Many jabs weren't tested via the proposed Gold standard tri-phase placebo controlled trial. But vax were protected by Reagan admin bargaining, especially in children.. Hence the push for mrna slop to dozer into that category.; 9/1/25, 10:43 PM
walter said...: https://open.substack.com/pub/amidwesterndoctor/p/how-much-damage-has-mass-vaccination?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=2rtn8; 9/1/25, 10:44 PM
mccullough said...: Still awaiting the AIDS epidemic among heterosexuals the CDC promised 40 years ago.

Can’t take any Expert seriously who thinks boys can be one girls or girls can be one boys.; 9/1/25, 10:59 PM
Achilles said...: Jim at said...
After what those assholes pulled during Covid, they're lucky they're only being fired.

Fuck them all. Every, last one of them.

I will never forgive them for losing the cure to Pneumonia and the Flu. Nobody died of either in 2020. It was a miracle.

Thousands of people are dying of the Flu and Pneumonia every year because they lost that cure. They should hang for that.; 9/2/25, 8:25 AM
Inga said...: “I will never forgive them for losing the cure to Pneumonia and the Flu. Nobody died of either in 2020. It was a miracle.

Thousands of people are dying of the Flu and Pneumonia every year because they lost that cure. They should hang for that.”

Achilles pulls these comments out of his ass and no one challenges him to provide proof of his lunatic assertions?

LOL, these comments sections revel in ignorance.; 9/2/25, 10:21 AM
Goldenpause said...: The people who wrecked the CDC’s credibility in furtherance of a left wing agenda now lament that we no longer respect and support the CDC. Too bad we can’t yank their pensions.; 9/2/25, 6:46 PM