From "The New Millennial Parenting Anxiety/For those determined to pass down their globe-trotting values, vacations have become ever more ambitious and goal-oriented—and exhausting" (The Atlantic)(gift link).
August 28, 2025
"In place of stability, many Millennials came to prize adventure; travel became not just a simple luxury but an alternative source of meaning and identity."
"One 2024 Vox Media poll found that 76 percent of the Zoomers and Millennials surveyed agreed that travel says 'a lot about who they are'; 88 percent said it had spurred their personal growth. 'For previous generations, travel was a status symbol,' Jennie Germann Molz, a College of the Holy Cross sociologist, told me. 'For the Millennial generation it’s more about self-improvement or self-actualization.' As more and more Millennials have started families, many of them are determined to pass down those globe-trotting values—to share the joy of journeying but also to shape their kids into adaptable, savvy people. Sometimes they’re spending money they don’t have; frequently, they’re sacrificing tranquility they may already be short on...."
From "The New Millennial Parenting Anxiety/For those determined to pass down their globe-trotting values, vacations have become ever more ambitious and goal-oriented—and exhausting" (The Atlantic)(gift link).
But: "What kids tend to love most about traveling, anyway, can be found without going far at all. Parents can just keep an eye out for... 'micro-adventures': taking the bus to a free museum, driving two hours to a relative’s home, playing in the woods. Kids need novelty, yes—but when you’re new to existence, everything is new to you.... [One couple anguished over a day of flight delays then] realized that their toddler was having the time of his life: going up and down the escalator, watching the planes take off, marveling at how cool it is that people get to fly in the sky. You have it right, she felt like telling him. I am grumpy. I have forgotten the beauty of the world."
From "The New Millennial Parenting Anxiety/For those determined to pass down their globe-trotting values, vacations have become ever more ambitious and goal-oriented—and exhausting" (The Atlantic)(gift link).
59 comments:
Travel as an expensive habit.
Take it from a former Eagle Scout. Young children should not play unsupervised in the woods.
Globe trotting is stupid and wasteful IMO. I have met many people who have been to cool foreign cities but knew next to nothing about the wonders in their own county and state.
Rich people problems.
The world has cool places, definitely, but also lots that are not so cool, along with an increasing smattering of 'meh'. The number of places I've been that are truly worth returning to regularly can be counted on one hand, and that number used to be higher. Add to that those places that weren't once, but now are, hostile to Americans and it defies logic that modern inconveniences associated with travel generally are worth the aggravation at all.
I'm glad I got it while the getting was good, but the getting just isn't that good anymore.
Travel is still a status symbol. Many Gen Z act as if that seeing the Eiffel Tower is less important than posting a selfie in front of the Eiffel Tower.
The twenty and thirty somethings in our family are finding their own way on this. The soon to be newly betrothed couple well, he’s a pilot so recreational travel on standby is essentially free so they go everywhere. the older one did some travel, thought he wanted to live in the ‘big’ city or Hawaii but ended up back in his tiny town buying a house…I guess it’s fun to shyte on the youngsters traveling so I’ll participate- the airplane is not your home so don’t let your kids use it like they do the playroom back home…
'micro-adventures': taking the bus to a free museum,
Micro-adventures like that could prompt children to ask some uncomfortable questions, like, "Mom, are we poor?"
…the interesting thing is they’re all in a good place financially. Maybe they rejected the lack of financial strategy of their peers or maybe they listened to us. Dunno…
I want to compare the size of the investment/retirement accounts for globetrotters versus the homebodies. Also, show me their credit card balances. Some "personal growth" activities make no financial sense unless you retire with a surplus of assets. This includes buying hobby or luxury cars, buying any boat, or spending on leisure travel. Simple lifecycle economics.
Now, a retiree with life-long discipline, a habit of deferred gratification, and adequate savings may struggle to spend all the $$$$$$$$ they have saved. Let 'em fly first class and cruise in luxury cabins, but eat your veggies before you gorge on dessert.
California has all the travel stuff you need to see. It’s magnificent.
Everest Base Camp is a perfect example of a cool place (pun intended) that is now decidedly uncool. Used to be quite the party 15-20 years ago, and is now just a colder version of burning man. The difficulty in just getting there was part of the adventure, an adventure now spoiled by yuppies taking a helo. Gone are the days of the ultralight pilgrim, replaced by armies of douchenozzles and beg-packers that A) won't clean up after themselves or B) worse, have sherpas do it for them. Then there are the throngs of climb groups filled with large-type assholes who're jerks going up the mountain and come back down just the same, doubly so if they don't summit. Nepal continually talks about moratoriums but gets lots of pullback because...money.
Go where the wealthy aren't. They have shit taste and worse personalities. Even annoying beg-packers are better.
"but when you’re new to existence, everything is new to you.."
I remember the first time my dad let me go with him to a junk yard (to look for parts for our car)..
It was AWESOME! huge piles of cars.. Just piled up!
And you could just go up to one, and start wrenching an alternator (or such) right off of it. It was NEATO!
If you've never been anywhere.. Everywhere is SOMEWHERE!
"The difficulty in just getting there was part of the adventure, an adventure now spoiled by yuppies taking a helo."
i travel.. a LOT, and what i've learnt is: getting there IS the fun.
Driving to california is an ADVENTURE..
Flying to california is an ordeal
"Driving to california is an ADVENTURE..
Flying to california is an ordeal"
I think the family road trip is good for kids. Though, I think many hotels and motels have shut down their pools because of ADA regulations so parents miss out on that relatively accessible form of entertainment for children that also is physical enough to tucker them out. It is a much different experience to spend a few days in transit to a destination seeing different states along the way then step on a plane in the morning in your home city and then later that day step off in your destination city.
"Michael said...
Rich people problems."
I suspect a lot of it is decent income people problems that wind up turning into didn't-save-enough-for-retirement people problems.
RideSpaceMountain said...
The world has cool places, definitely, but also lots that are not so cool, along with an increasing smattering of 'meh'.
There are a lot of undiscovered places if you just wander without a plan. There's also a lot of neat people in the world, but it often means getting away from the trendy spots. The French in Paris can be insufferable, but the farmers and shopkeepers in the countryside of France are wonderful.
“Globe trotting is stupid and wasteful IMO. I have met many people who have been to cool foreign cities but knew next to nothing about the wonders in their own county and state.”
Spot on!
So many places to visit and wonders to see in the Western USA. Just for example.
@Michael: "There are a lot of undiscovered places if you just wander without a plan."
You don't need to wander far, and can use National Parks as a guide for cool places. The Parks are absolutely packed with Instagram selfie tourists and non-English speakers who must complete their bucket lists. The experience often requires horrific traffic jams worse than an urban commute (e.g., Yosemite; Shenandoah) too.
Once you've seen the "big attractions," the enviornment just outside the parks can be 99% the same but with 1% of the crowds. In the case of Yosemite, the experience IN the park but away from the Valley floor is a different (and peaceful) world.
Don't self-actualize at the expense of other selves.
I recommend state parks. Or just go walking anywhere with a child (or with a childlike frame of mind) and you'll find all sorts of things. I recommend observing the same area around all of the seasons. I see many different sunrises and observe the rise and fall of different types of flowers. Different animals are out and about. Today we saw a vole and a skunk and tiny toads and a goldfinch. That was cool even without a child, but of course to a child, all those things would be delightful. We have favorite dogs that we greet by name, and then there are all the things the dog finds interesting. The other day, I found it interesting that a whippet was interested in an extremely small caterpillar. I can't imagine that anything at the end of a day of plane travel would be more rewarding, and this is a stone's throw from where we live.
I had a micro-adventure with my 18-month old daughter recently. We went to a movie. It was all good fun until the popcorn ran out
Many of the young adults traveling around is for status reasons, seen in the endless social media postings.
The Vault Dweller said...
I think the family road trip is good for kids.
One tip for making a road trip work with kids is avoiding long drives. When taking our kids, our goal was to limit driving to no more than 5 hours/day. We were cross country camping, so pulling into a campground at 2:00-3:00 left plenty of time for hikes, swimming, playground.
In the 90's my wonderful millennial daughter and I traveled America's two lane roads in my 1960's Westfalia VW camper-van for months at a time. This was before GPS and we would get so lost and end up in the coolest places; alpine meadows surrounded by elk, Baja desert surf breaks sharing bugs (lobsters) with the local fisherman, fun cities like Cincinnati or discovering a Bush Gardens in some wayward unexpected place. Don't even get me started on zoos across the United States. And now? She and her husband with 3 year old in tow just did an anchored week in a Parisian neighborhood on the cheap. I pat myself on the back every day in my old age.
Travel has lost much of it's allure for me. The industry has made every destination a carbon copy of the others. The whole world has become a tourist trap, which I've seen enough of. When I was drinking, I could enjoy it, because alcohol makes everything tolerable, now I need more than a distraction. The other thing is I'm a doer. I need to be doing something useful all the time, which is why I love working more than vacation or retirement. I go to work every morning before the sun comes up, and they don't even pay me. Maybe I have a problem.
Dog as Tour Guide: one place we visited in Northern Alabama (truly beautiful) were caves and caverns. My daughter and I were the only people there at 9am. We bought our tickets and asked when the next tour started. The proprietor pointed to his dog and said "Right now and Clancy will be your tour guide.Just follow Clancy". That wonderful dog took us everywhere. He waited we we lagged, disappeared in crevasses only to reappear to make sure we were following, had us spelunking in large caves, crossing lovely creeks hopping from stone to stone. Best tour guide ever and one my 40 year old millennial.daughter remembers to this day
---- the interesting thing is they’re all in a good place financially
That is very good. There is a lot of wealth around. But we are also at an epically peak peak of a financial cycle. Five years to climb this summit from the sudden sharp selloff brought about by the Chinese flu. That drop was too fast to produce the liquidation needed for the markets. Somewhat tangential to the Althouse post, I suppose, but so many of today's phenomena are direct consequences of a major cyclic peak. The wealth, the many forms of status-seeking, and the craziness.
If you don't post every second of your life on social media you don't have to spend money traveling to places you can't afford or won't really enjoy.
Speaking as a millennial with a lot of kids who travels a lot by car with them and hasn't posted any vacation pics.
I agree about state parks. They are hidden gems.
Enigma said..
"..In the case of Yosemite, the experience IN the park but away from the Valley floor is a different (and peaceful) world.."
back in the '90s, we went to Yosemite, and drove up to Glacier Point (crowded and unimpressive). On the way back, we stopped at the Parking lot for Taft Point.
The parking lot was nearly completely full, we finally found a spot. People were sitting in their cars eating lunch, or taking pix of their cars.
I was DREADING the (about 1 km) hike to Taft Point because i hate people.
Surprise!
as we started out on the trail, we passed a family walking in..
for the REST of the trail, we saw NO ONE..
when we got to the edge at the point, we saw ONE other group, as ways down the edge. The view down into the canyon was fantastic! it MADE the trip! On the hike back, we saw NO ONE; until, right before the trailhead, passed another family walking out..
The parking lot was STILL full, and i realized that all these people were NOT going to leave their cars.
"Maybe I have a problem."
You do. I've got the same one. I've been retired for 15 years, plenty of money, but I am spending my retirement buying, renovating, and the selling houses after living in them for a couple of years. Rinse repeat. Very little profit if any, but it keeps me busy. I'm a dull boy but my name is not Jack.
Back to the topic: The best vacations are the ones when you wind up in an unexpected location or situation. Sometimes expensive, sometimes cheap, but always enjoyable. In retrospect ;)
"The number of places I've been that are truly worth returning to regularly can be counted on one hand..."
1. Florianopolis, Brazil - reason: beautiful, also family
2. Mongolia, anywhere except Ulaanbaatar - reason: I didn't choose the yurt life, it chose me, also truly beautiful
3. Singapore - reason: food and truly one of the world's great global metropoles (also the Christmas party at the Swissotel/Merchant Court is a hell of a shindig)
4. Iceland - reason: biggest little country on Earth, also great people and Iceland air is the best airline on Earth
5. Santiago, Chile - reason: very unique, culturally sophisticated, and clean city as Latin America goes, and phenomenal wine
I came up with gilbar's observation:
more than 90% of the people at a national park, NEVER get more than a QUARTER of a mile from their cars.
It has been true at every national part i've been to, even little ones like Effigy Mounds. (if you go there, and the parking lot is full.. Don't worry. Most people don't Even make it inside the visitors center, and hardly Anyone even Tries walking up the hill.)
Get a National Park Pass, and get a state park pass for your state, and start there. They're affordable and open up worlds.
We're starting home today from a month on the road and have seen some national parks that I didn't even know existed, in our quest to knock my husband's last two states off the list. Roosevelt NP in North Dakota was a revelation - some of the most beautiful scenery I've ever seen, and I've been to a lot of places.
Travel and adventure aren't the same thing.
At an appropriate age, children should travel so they can be taught how to behave on a car and plane trip.
Kids can have an adventure anywhere. Parents who take their kids on an expensive vacation, aren't doing it for the children. For a pre-teen, staying at a hotel downtown to visit museums and a ball game or at a cabin at a state park to hike and see nature, is the same as going to Paris or a national park.
For the Millennial generation it’s more about self-improvement or self-actualization.
I don't know what this is supposed to mean in regard to travel and families, but doing something frequent and local is superior to an extravagant family vacation every year or two.
Agree with Enigma. Even the most crowded National Parks are only crowded near the parking lots and at certain "bucket list" locations within the parks at certain hours or seasons. Get up early, or walk a few hundred yards or go in off-season and you're out in strangeness.
But then there's competitive travel involving a return to the workplace and a crushing of other returning workers with better pictures, better stories. I like to think that already there's a worker who is fabricating "his vacation" using AI during the winter because he really likes visiting botanical gardens, blues shrines and barbecue joints along the MIssissippi and this isn't acceptable to the vegetarian, neo-transcendental, Turtle Islanders who are his co-workers.
Traveling with a dog is limiting, but maybe I should reframe that as "adds a challenge to the daily adventures."
I have an awesome story about traveling in Greece in the off season - actually a few - but (a) they're too long, and (b) if I ever meet any of you in person, what will I hold forth about?
@gilbar: "The parking lot was STILL full, and i realized that all these people were NOT going to leave their cars."
A large majority of NP visitors don't go more than 1/4 mile from the parking lots or shuttle bus stops. I overheard lots of whining about having to walk to the geysers in Yellowstone. Then again, many hardcore outdoorists get jobs as park rangers or finance their lives so they can climb rocks professionally (e.g., movie star Alex Honnold). One ranger told me she hiked up to Glacier Point and back from the valley before her work shift some days.
I lived not far from the southern entrance (Wawona gate) for a while. The crowds were always a lot smaller at the Big Trees giant sequoia grove and the Glacier Point road than down in the valley. Still, Glacier Point is a dead end so it does back up. It has some good views if you walk a bit, such as down the trailheads to the valley.
Frankly, after seeing the sights I liked wandering on the old logging roads outside the park more than the crowded park.
I chose my nom de blog as "planetgeo" because of a lifetime of travel around the most beautiful planet anyone could possibly imagine. Work, vacation, exploration, macro/micro adventure, whimsy to and through every continent except Antarctica. For me, it's not "travel", it became transmigration. I pass through places and they pass through me.
Over time, they no longer were just places. They became like people to me. So I started writing notes, word sketches, and letters about them, to them. "Letters I've written, never meaning to send." Silly notes. Love letters. Word paintings. Elegies to places lost.
Ann does love letters to sunrises. Mine are to places I've passed through and that have passed through me.
Back when they used to stamp your passport, I used one up completely, traveling for work. Every once in a while the kids would come visit me in some country, they don't remember anything that we didn't take pictures of. Leave 'em home and photoshop them into some pictures. That's my advice, anyway.
the same trip as Yosemite, we went to Sequoia; and there were HUGE crowds at the General Sherman tree..
There was a PAVED walking path around that grove, and Hardly Anybody on it past the General Sherman. The other trees were what? 5 feet smaller? looked the same to me.
THEN, we went down the road, and stopped at a pulloff, and hiked about a mile.. Didn't see a SINGLE person.. Not ONE,
but LOTS of trees.
in 2005, me and a friend went to Bozeman because he was thinking of going to school there. On the way, he mentioned that he'd NEVER been to Yellowstone; so we went there.
Even stood in the crowd for old faithful (because he wanted to see it).
After being disappointed by that, we went for a mile long hike up and around the basin. Saw MANY geysers, and VERY few people (well, scores of people; but not the THOUSANDS that were by old faithful)
If you go to a National Park, GET OFF THE ROADS!!
Yeah. Our grandkids just left after a week here, with a few days at Disney World thrown in. After Disney, back at our home, we had 3 straight days of downpours. Could not get out to do anything. No beaches, no anything. We were worried about what to do. Well...the kids had no problem with it at all. Drag out a few toys, paper, drawing pencils, and let kids be kids. They have huge imaginations and kept so busy I was exhausted when they left. And yes, the house looked like The Somme in WWI, but it was fun watching them have a great time without having to go to Lisbon.
When you read an article about how one generation differs from another, most of the time you can just substitute "the young" for Millennials or Zeds or "the old" for Boomers and Xers. At 20 or 30 different generations weren't so different. At 60 or at 80 they aren't terribly different either.
You probably also ought to ask yourself if the authors are talking about people who appear in advertisements or the media or who have major online presences or if they have also examined the lives of ordinary stay-at-home schlubs. I don't discount the idea that different generations may have different values and lifestyles, but it does seem like half the people who mouth off about generational differences don't know what they are talking about.
Hey, wait a minute! I thought the Millennials and Zoomers suffered from crippling anxiety about Climate Change! How are a justifying all this travel that's just making that "problem" worse?
Trustifarians always liked travel. It’s like priests who have sex, you are an exception because you are so good. Climate restrictions are for the non believers.
Adventure and stability is a viable choice.
Adventure to mitigate the modern madhouse is a healthy avenue.
"The number of places I've been that are truly worth returning to regularly can be counted on one hand..."
I have been to Iceland, I agree it is a beautiful country with great air. You should try New Zealand, the most beautiful place on earth and better air, night skies so clear of light pollution you can readily see the Milky Way with the naked eye.
When the kids were 7 and 4, we started taking them backpacking in the high Sierra. No toilets, no campfires. Plenty of stars. Now they're taking their kids. Mission accomplished.
The places we return to are much closer to home:
Zion & Bryce Canyons, Utah
Lake Powell
Yosemite
Central and North Coasts of Calunicornia
Country around Bend/Redmond, Oregon
They used to call this a gap year as their rich parents paid for them to smoke pot in France. I knew a woman whose parents made her work in a MacDonalds for a year before paying for her college. She was grounded, mature, and appreciated what was given to her.
tommyesq said, "You should try New Zealand"
Already been. Twice. You're right about everything, except the length of the flight. The former puts it in my top 10, but the latter keeps it out of my top 5.
If you want to see the world, open your eyes. There it is. Enjoy.
Travel to exotic locales or on adventures is not just for the experience but for the inclusion into the class of people who can afford to dot that. The bragging rights. Monty Python's Four Yorkshiremen skit is the opposite of this type of elitism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue7wM0QC5LE
their toddler was having the time of his life: going up and down the escalator
My toddler granddaughter has plenty of toys but for weeks she’s spent at least half her playtime on a cardboard box with a small flap cut on top, filling it with small round stones she finds on the edge of the patio. When she runs out of stones she dumps out the box and the game begins anew. Pure magic.
Millennial's college years would be roughly 2000-2015, many were educated to look down on the USA. The travel is about instilling that same distain for the USA in their children. That is what I saw in the article. When in London "why the streets were so much cleaner than the streets back home in Brooklyn", in Japan they "get their children thinking about the impact of American influence and imperialism".
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