"Ben Tulchin, a pollster who worked on Senator Bernie Sanders’s presidential campaigns, said the old political calculations for how Democrats can win elections were now obsolete. 'The math doesn’t work,' he said. 'For years, the belief was Democrats have had demographic destiny on our side. Now, the inverse is true.' Some Democrats hope that this is only a phenomenon of the Trump era, and that G.O.P. gains will evaporate once the president is no longer on the ballot.... But Chris Kofinis, a Democratic strategist who served as chief of staff to former Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia, who left the party last year, warned that such optimism was misplaced. 'Trump is the symptom, not the disease,” he said. “The disease is the fact that you have lost touch with a whole swath of voters that used to consistently vote Democratic.”... [Representative Ritchie Torres, a Democrat from the Bronx said] 'I am convinced that Donald Trump is a singular phenomenon in American history.... I am unconvinced that his appeal is necessarily transferable to the Republican Party writ large. That remains to be seen.'"
From "The Democrats’ problems run deep, nearly everywhere.This is where voters shifted toward President Trump in each of the last three elections" (NYT)(free-access link, because there are a lot of interesting graphics showing the dramatic shift toward Trump (or something more than just Trump)).
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I'd like to hear Rep. Torres expound on why Donald Trump is a singular phenomenon in American history.
Figure that out - which means going well beyond why our Democrat friends hate Trump - and it may give them a real clue into the future of the Democrat Party.
This will not happen as the hatred overwhelms their reasoning ability.
[Representative Ritchie Torres, a Democrat from the Bronx said] 'I am convinced that Donald Trump is a singular phenomenon in American history.... I am unconvinced that his appeal is necessarily transferable to the Republican Party writ large. That remains to be seen.'"
You just keep believing that Richie, see how that works out for the Democrats.
Ritchie Torres is right when he says that Trump’s appeal will not necessarily transfer to to the Republican Party as a whole. I’ve been saying as much myself. But Trump is no longer a “singular phenomenon.” JD Vance, Marco Rubio, and Pam Bondi are Trumpists who are not named Trump. There are more out there, and the President will find them.
At any rate the Democrats under Obama, Hillary Clinton, and whoever was President the past four years have gone way out of their way to convince working class — and middle class! — voters out of their party, and Bernie-style Marxism woll not bring them back.
Voters in 2016: 'Trump is the symptom, not the disease,”
Elon Musk mid 2023: 'Trump is the symptom, not the disease,”
Bill Ackman and Tulsi Gabbard last year: 'Trump is the symptom, not the disease,”
" 'For years, the belief was Democrats have had demographic destiny on our side. Now, the inverse is true."
hmmm?
so, becoming a party of and for Gay/Lesbian/Transgender people DOESN'T help demographics?
and staying a party of and for single cat women doesn't help either?
It's ALMOST AS IF: the future belongs to those who show up.
Of course, With Modern Education..
single cat women can EDUCATE young children into becoming LGBTQI+SCW
but NONE of that really helps demographics.. does it?
MAYBE, importing TENS OF MILLIONS of young gangsters into the country will help.. Assuming that:
A) they breed
B) their offspring vote democrat
Democrats used to represent the blue collar working class like my parents. Starting with Obama the Democrats pivoted to progressive identity politics. My mother voted for Trump in the last two elections, the first time she ever did not vote Democrat. I believe there are many such cases. As long as the Republicans reject the neocon Bush Romney types, and the Democrats remain the party of women with penises, the working class will vote Republican.
Democrats had better get their stuff together and the same can be said for Republicans. Republicans need to eliminate the platitudes and work to reform that which needs changing.
Enough with the bullschiff.
Democrats have long overplayed their hand at identity politics. And now it has come to its logical conclusion. They have not presented a new idea since the 1960s and have, instead, based their elections on claiming the other guy wants to bring back slavery and chain women to stoves. It actually worked for a while.
But voting for a person based on their skin color has not observably worked out very well for people in Chicago, St. Louis, New Orleans, Baltimore and many, many other cities. Voting for people based on DEI standards (vagina, no vagina; multiple pronouns vs single pronoun; etc) has given us messes such as San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, and- again- Chicago
.
Now, many younger people are seeing the reality. And they are seeing how the covid days took the large wealth gap and expanded it tenfold. They are seeing that they cannot afford to go to school without a massive loan. They cannot make enough to pay back the loan AND get married AND buy their first house AND create a family. So they don't.
Middle aged and younger POC are more and more looking objectively at the parties and asking: If I keep doing the same thing they expect me to do, what will change?
Cut the crap and stop acting like we’re living in the last days of Pompeii.
The political screw always turns. Yin and Yang. Move from one area of strength (e.g., working class voters) to another (e.g., environment) and you lose a percentage of the prior constituency. Power fills a vacuum (i.e., Trump, Gabbard, Musk, etc.).
The left brings the political rotation on themselves, as many are temperamentally unable to accept current optimal conditions as the ultimate, utopian optimal state of affairs. The right often accepts "whatever" or tradition as the best they'll ever get.
The left is akin to the stock market IPOs: mix a few winners in with 10x the number of losers. The new generation of AOC, David Hogg, etc. are teaming up with an entirely different party (Socialist Bernie) to end the lefty progressive Boomers vision of post-WW2 utopia.
@Althouse, how many days ago did you have a post based on a Washingyon Post article which claimed that the Democrats’ problem was not the loss of the working class but was instead that the college-educated are shifting to the right. Does that article, along with this article, mean the Democrats are losing everybody?
Elsewhere in the same paper the Times runs a long chin-stroking story about the "backlash" to the BLM movement, directly analogized to the rise of the KKK post-reconstruction, and "white-grievance" racism of Trump. Any critique of BLM is dismissed in one sentence in the passive voice.
The tension within the Times newsroom is obvious: the older journalists calling out the current path towards doom of the Democratic party, versus the young radical progressives, ready to fight Trump with every available journalistic weapon in every story.
Big Mike, college educated is now the same as working class. A college education doesn’t really mean much anymore. Entry level jobs all require a college education. In some states a $100,000 year salary barely cuts it. I was making far more than that in the Bay Area and was living paycheck to paycheck, best move ever is leaving California.
Temujin, as usual, hits the nail on the head. Identity politics is corrosive and un-American. I've always found it amazing that Democrats preen about their moral superiority, continuously quoting MLK, while simultaneously viewing everything through the prism of race. Let's hope that political gambit, which has served them well in the past, is coming to an end.
Democrats are in a bind, they need to service their rabid lunatic left wing base. But 80% of voters find this repugnant.
In an election, it’s not always about which candidate you like the most. There may not be anyone you want to vote FOR, but there’s always a worst option that you want to vote AGAINST. In 2024, that was the America-hating Democrats.
"The math doesn’t work,' he said. 'For years, the belief was Democrats have had demographic destiny on our side. Now, the inverse is true.'"
It is hilarious. This idea of "demographic destiny" was first articulated, I believe, by John Judis and Ruy Teixeira a few decades back. The irony is, they both began to note the failure of their prediction a LONG time ago and began warning the party that its capture of the corporate and professional elites would not work out if they failed to also hold the ethnic minorities, youth and the working class. They have long assumed that simply spending galore and handing out goodies was the way to do that for the slovenly dependent masses. Well, it turns out people do put dignity up there with eating well as a key motivating value. They simply aren't the happy herd of cows the Democrats think they are. Teixeira especially has been a Cassandra warning them about this for a very long time. I still don't think they get it.
I love the poorly educated!
Why are the rich and college educated Dems? TDS? CAGW? That’s the question for me.
Jonathan, Teixeira's main point lately has been that his demographic analysis assumed the Democrats would hold on to white working class voters, and add the others. Now they are losing the whole working class.
The "disease" is that the common people have realized that career politicians are parasites and the common people are tired of being their hosts. Get elected and get rich. That pisses working class people off. Trump is no career politician.
Democrats should start thinking about what they are going to say when they are no longer running against Trump. Are they still going to try to brandish January 6 when the opponent is Vance, Gabbard, or Rubio? (And what if Clyburn is dead or retired at 87 in three years?)
The Democrats just need to sit back and wait for 1 or 2 budgets.
It will become crystal clear that Republicans are the party of more deficits, more obscene borrowing, more inflation, more fraudulent spending in the federal budget, more waste and abuse.
All of this spending that DOGE discovered was passed, after all, by a Republican House. Which is why they've sidelined Elon Musk. You can't have him continuing to point out all the waste, fraud and abuse in the federal budget when REPUBLICANS will own it.
Why would they think importing 10 million unvetted people into the US would not aggravate the working class? That alone pissed off thousands of urbanites who saw their facilities taken from them, their support functions diminished and their already stretched quality of life destroyed.
There's a radio talk show host in the Twin Cities who is fond of playing a Trump soundbite in which Trump says (paraphrasing), "did you ever notice that people on the Left are not happy? They're not happy." And that's the nub of it.
Hubert Humphrey was known far and wide as the "Happy Warrior." He was as nasty a demagogue as any Donk has ever been, but he was enthusiastic and he was smiling when he broke out the shiv. Contrast his demeanor to that of any modern Democrat - they don't smile, they smirk and snarl.
I was at a Rachel Maddow speaking event. The one thing that had to be running through her mind as she looked out into the audience as she gave her spiel about “fascism” was that nearly all of them were white and will die of natural causes within 10 years.
Yet she pretended like she was speaking sagaciously to the next generation.
All the left have is "If you dare disagree with us, you're a NAZI!"
..and lies.
The left are the party of lying liars who lie and lies... and more lies.
The Democrats did well as long as they pretended convincingly that they were centrists around election time. They could (and did) go left after they got elected. And they were fine as long as they went back to pretending again every election.
But they screwed up. They dropped the pretending near the end of Obama's last term and went full loco. DEI. Open borders. COVID lockdowns. Cancel culture. Full benefits for illegals. Release and crazy protection of violent criminals. They're way beyond TDS. They're F-ing crazy and now can't or won't come back to any level of sanity.
How is any of that going to bring back traditional blue collar Democrats?
It takes a long time to disenchant a voting base, but it turns out all you have to do is act in their worst interests, treat them as if you don't like them, and talk to them as if you think they're stupid.
Query for Rep. Torres:
Please describe the characteristics of the voter who voted for Trump but would vote for any Democrat over JD Vance or the new Marco. You can throw Glenn Youngkin and Ron DeSantis into the mix.
Whistling, graveyard, some assembly required.
“I am unconvinced that his appeal is necessarily transferable to the Republican Party writ large. That remains to be seen.'"
The GOPe agrees.
The Dems lost me - a leftish labor liberal building union rep - 25 years ago with their climate voodoo and then again with their stance on immigration and finally with their election behavior starting in 2016. I doubt I will ever vote Dem again. Good riddance and. I hope they enjoy the Karen vote they worked so hard to achieve.
The position the Dems have somehow gotten themselves into is...deplorable.
Democrats are obviously worried about Vance, look how the usual suspects here are working to try to undermine his "credentials" as a member of this class. We saw it just last night on the café. The thing is that all you need to connect with the working class is to listen to them and to show that you care about their problems in a genuine way. Is the Rodney Dangerfield character in Caddyshack working class? No, but could a working class person identify with him, and vice versa? Yes. It's not about identity, at least not in the way that the Democrats think of identity. This is why they are mystified that a billionaire like Trump is so accepted.
You know what a good way to connect with the working class is that the Democrats ought to try? They could stop sending the sons of working class families off to fight wars only fought to benefit the Democrats' big donors. It's enough already with no end in sight. A party that can accept Dick Cheney and George W Bush into its bosom, the way the Democrats have, and which thinks that trying to bring better paying jobs back home—tariffs—is a stupid idea not worth trying, is not going to appeal to people who want a better life.
The Democrat Party suffers from institutional narcissism.
The problem with the democrats is that their policies don't work. They don't seem to be capable of figuring that out.
Kofinis and Torres are both correct. The current momentum in the Republican party is, indeed pulling working class people in, and the Rs are very much more open to recruits of all flavors than the Ds. However, there are a lot of RINOs out there and the Cathedral is always a threat to re-occupation of the party. Constant vigilance is required.
I think that the Dangerfield character, well the one in Back to School, anyway, was a builder of buildings, a direct employer of working people, union working people. He knew how to treat people. Sounds familiar.
This is more scarmongering from the NYT's and designed to light a fire under the Democrat party. "We need to work harder and smarter. We must win in 2026" is the message.
Because, I fully expect the DC Republicans to fuck up, like they always do. They're already sabotaging Trump and they're doing more of that beause they're "Scared". As time goes by, they'll get their courage back, and get that sweet Media applause by stopping Trump.
The natural default position of the Ford/Bush/Romney Wing of the party is to lose. They don't want to win. They want to be the "Controlled oppostion" getting that Big Donor cash, and "reaching accross the aisle".
So, once Trump goes, it'll back to a Jeb Bush type. Look at the losers who ran against Trump in 2024. That's the real Republican party.
The astounding thing about the DC Senate Republicans is that large numbers of them would rather lose than fufill their promises to their Republican voters. Flake, Sasse, and Corker left the Senate rather then help Trump. Tillis and McConnell are voting against Trump nominees for no reason then poking Trump voters in eye.
Cassidy might survive a primary challenge, but might not. And that's solely because he voted to convict Trump in 2021. Its weird how the D senators want to stay in the Senate forever and do what their voters want, while R senators are always going "Maverick" and throwing temper tantrums.
Remember Obama's shovel-ready jobs and how he changed his mind when various identity groups wanted the money to go to their organizations and not to the working class because they said too many workers were white men?
The Democrats believe that the poor and working class are victimized by capitalism and indispensable to its functioning. I think the average liberal is shocked that these people don't unite to challenge the system that exploits them. But what if these jokers are wrong? Our working class is nothing like slaves or feudal serfs or even the poor of an emerging industrial society.
David Aitken said...
The problem with the democrats is that their policies don't work. They don't seem to be capable of figuring that out.
Not true. The Democrat and Republican Uniparty policies worked exactly as intended. They just served the wealthy globalists.
The "problem" whined about here is that Republican voters figured out what was going on.
The Republican voters nominated someone who was not a Republican and listened to the voters.
Republicans got that person elected and he implemented an Americans first agenda. Things actually got better for actual Americans for the first time in decades.
Then a large number of Democrats noticed that the not Republican was essentially a 1960 JFK democrat.
Now we have the broadest political coalition in the country's history.
The problem for the Democrat Regime which includes these propaganda outlets is that the current political coalition does not want to funnel US taxpayer dollars to the propaganda outlets and it doesn't want to make their oligarch owners rich funneling working class dollars to the wealthy.
The democrats are polling horribly, worse than Trump. I really don’t understand how they haven’t capitalized on Trump’s mismanagement, but they seemed to have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
RCOCEAN II said...
The astounding thing about the DC Senate Republicans is that large numbers of them would rather lose than fufill their promises to their Republican voters. Flake, Sasse, and Corker left the Senate rather then help Trump. Tillis and McConnell are voting against Trump nominees for no reason then poking Trump voters in eye.
Comon now. You know the reason.
They serve wealthy globalist donors. They are traitors and tools. They were also possibly photographed with a live boy or dead girl.
Bob Boyd said...
Remember Obama's shovel-ready jobs and how he changed his mind when various identity groups wanted the money to go to their organizations and not to the working class because they said too many workers were white men?
The identity groups were not diverse. It was Karen.
All of that "infrastructure" money went to creating air conditioned desk jobs for women who produced nothing except the opportunity for said women to make people's lives worse.
the odds they get the story right, is almost infinitesimally unlikely
My husband just got passed over for a job in which 75% of the employees, top to bottom, were white women (every employee's picture was posted on their website). He was fine with it, as his second interview was with the CEO (a black woman), who told him that if he were called back for the third round, he would be meeting with every department all day, and they would "grill" him on how he felt he could fit in to this organization, considering his "white male privilege." Even our friends on the left think he dodged a bullet, as, if he'd been called back and ultimately offered the position, he would have had to consider seriously the prospect of taking it because of its very high salary. (one kid still in college, you know how it is).
Naturally it's a non-profit. Non-profit doesn't mean you don't make bank, especially on the foundation side. And wow, you get to feel SO good about yourself and how you gate-keep like Leonidas against the forces of... well. The forces of reality, frankly.
"The Democrat and Republican Uniparty policies worked exactly as intended. They just served the wealthy globalists."
There is a saying that 'the system is what the system does' and it is hard to argue with. But the Democrats should definitely go harder against tariffs and explain to union voters how bringing factories back to the United States is "economically inefficient" and cuts into the profits of their natural masters, the globalists.
It's been a winning message so far.
I think explaining why trying to tamp out a war with a country with 6,000 nuclear weapons, a war that is a hellscape for the men on the battlefield, with which the same families who sent their men to Korea and Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan, understand all too well, is somehow "bad" is also a good way for the Democrats to increase their popularity with the demographic that provides the manpower for the military. I think that the Democrats have been doing a really good job so far, but they should really lean into it.
The closest thing to self-awareness I have seen from the Democrats in recent years is when they got to George W Bush and stopped him from endorsing Joe Biden before could get to the microphone.
If you want to appeal to working class people, start the discussion of creating more working class jobs. Democrats today are more interested in illegal immigrants (who take working class jobs because they'll work cheaper), climate change, radical environmentalism, DEI, and LGBTQMOUSE. Working class people want to, you know, work, and those things the Democrats are pushing are not about that.
"They just served the wealthy globalists."
Review the number of CFR members who have been in all depts of fedgov, whether D or R, since the 1930s, chiefly in the depts of State, Justice and Defense, and you'll begin to understand that the USA is a plaything for them in setting up their NWO. Also striking will be in knowing the vast majority of the CFRers are grads of Harvard, Yale
JAQ siad:
"The closest thing to self-awareness I have seen from the Democrats in recent years is when they got to George W Bush and stopped him from endorsing Joe Biden before could get to the microphone. "
indeed.
Democratics embrace labor arbitrage, Diversity, redistributive change, misogyny, ethnic Springs, CAIR, anti-science, and transhumanism prosecuted with liberal license under the Pro-Choice religion. #HateLovesAbortion
Ka-catastrophic.
"How can we get working class Americans to vote for us, Lovey, short of changing any policies, of course." — Thurston Howell Democrat III
The idiocy of the NYT pointed out in the top piece easily explains the outcome expressed the piece on male voting.
Kak - A - Phony
Here's a hint - Stop lying and end the non stop Trump hate.
Your pathetic party no longer cares about people. You all are obsessed in creepy unison about destroying Trump.
You are all liars, too. Perhaps, stop it.
There’s a page or two in Didion’s essay Slouching Towards Bethlehem on which she describes the left-wing street-theater troupe challenging a “Negro” who had stopped to watch whatever the performance was about his feelings for America. Wearing blackface, they pushed and prodded him, trying to get him to admit how terrible America was for Negroes (the word racist wasn’t used in 1967). And his protestations to the contrary, and slow-to-burn anger about what they were doing and saying, just incited them more. The left has always always treated blacks like children without agency.
thats their reason for existing, peachy, same with the post or most of the journal
Toward Trump? Or just away from the Demon-Rats?
Democrats, their unions and their other consorts have destroyed the working/middle class. The climate change hoax and COVID were useful vehicles.
Jupiter: “Toward Trump? Or just away from the Demon-Rats?” Most of those I know who have gravitated toward Trump are hoping he will save the country from the grifters and Gramscian Marxists calling themselves Democrats. The boorish, objectionable aspects of his presentation seem part of his electoral appeal so we accept them.
This story centers the Democratic coalition as the agent to whose thought processes, woes, and potentially new initiatives the reading audience ought to pay attention. Meanwhile, the Republican coalition and its top operatives and messaging consultants and so on is having just as many meetings, and internal thought papers, and projects-that-sure-could-use-some-funding about what they should be doing, and how they should be doing it, to keep these voters locked into their coalition. But they are not the agent at the center of the story, so we don't get to hear about any of that -- even though, it is certainly going on at warp speed.
Kak stumbles over an insight, gets up, dusts himself off, and keeps walking.
As it stands now, Trump could beat them again a fourth time.
Jaq said...
I think that the Dangerfield character, well the one in Back to School, anyway, was a builder of buildings, a direct employer of working people, union working people. He knew how to treat people."
Yes, note the scene where he's talking to the contractor who's just finished remodeling his dorm room.
Sounds familiar.
Sounds like Donald Trump.
They don’t know how to give up the “right side of history”.
Jupiter said...
Toward Trump? Or just away from the Demon-Rats?
The Republican Party led by Trump is essentially the 1960's Kennedy Democrat party that gave up on gay marriage and has realized that trade with China and war in Cuba/Vietnam/Everywhere else is not really in our best interests as a nation as a whole.
Torres may not be incorrect. The challenge for the GOP is going to be following through on Trump's success in upending the demographic trend in Demcrat support. Now, had Trump's second term ended in January rather than begin, I think it pretty obvious that the GOP would have failed since it is likely that Mike Pence would have likely lost to someone not named Kamala Harris this past November. However, Trump learned a lot during his 4 years out of office including how to continue his path- there are plausible heirs to his political legacy now.
"President Joe Biden’s sudden confession that he is battling Stage 4 prostate cancer—already spread to his bones—does not read like a tragic medical twist. It reads like the punch line to a four-year con in which the American people were governed by a hologram while an unelected inner ring steered the ship of state. The scandal is not the diagnosis; it is the long-running cover-up, the calculated manipulation of sympathy, and the brazen willingness of reporters and staff to hide a dying man behind the Resolute Desk so they could pursue an agenda voters never endorsed.
White House visitor logs show Biden slipped home to Rehoboth Beach every two to three weeks, a rhythm that matches the 14- to 21-day cycle of targeted radiation and hormone infusions for advanced prostate cancer. In February 2024, the president’s physician, Kevin O’Connor, produced a breezy “fit to serve” memo stating "there were no new concerns." Days later, Biden vanished for another beach weekend. On the following Monday, he reappeared, steady only because the teleprompter did the heavy lifting.
Administration aides claim the metastatic verdict materialized "this spring." Urologists interviewed by NewsNation insist a Gleason 9 tumor does not leap from harmless to Stage 4 in ten months; the disease gestates for years, and any competent medical team would have caught it long before it colonized the skeleton. If that is true—and common sense says it is—somebody falsified, or at least withheld, the commander-in-chief's chart while piping out White House talking points that branded questions about his vigor as "cheap fakes."
That lie bleeds directly into policy. House Oversight Chair James Comer has revealed that at least 38 executive orders and five pardons between 2022 and 2024 were signed not by the president but by an auto-pen while he was away from Washington. The Constitution grants broad pardon power, but only if a president knowingly exercises it. If senior strategists such as Anita Dunn or Mike Donilon ordered the robot signature while Biden recovered from radiation, the legal foundation under those directives collapses. So does any moral claim that Democrats were defending democracy."
-Walter Curt.
hombre said...
Democrats, their unions and their other consorts have destroyed the working/middle class. The climate change hoax and COVID were useful vehicles.
The unions, private sector at least, are going through a similar transition that the Republican party went through with Turmp.
They are casting off the political parasites that were betraying them.
As long as the institutional Democrat party remains focused on fruit loop ideological issues with little appeal to the masses--the party is going to remain in the political desert.
"But Chris Kofinis, a Democratic strategist who served as chief of staff to former Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia, who left the party last year, warned that such optimism was misplaced. 'Trump is the symptom, not the disease,” he said. “The disease is the fact that you have lost touch with a whole swath of voters that used to consistently vote Democratic.”
No. The disease is that the radicals have co-opted what used to be the Democratic Party, and have gone full-on Socialist. The people who aren't voting for their candidates have been put off by the weirdness, and are opting for the next best alternative, which isn't always a Republican.
The Democratic party stopped supporting the Black and Latino working class before they stopped supporting the Democrats. Just what did the Democrats think would happen?
It's like someone crying the blues because their spouse left them and not realizing that they actually pulled back from the relationship first.
The corruption and self-dealing of Trump and his family is massive, out in the open, and on an unprecedented scale.
Whether it's a golf course & luxury resort in Vietnam or a golf course & luxury resort in Qatar or a meme cryptocurrency. Trump’s supporters, they simply don’t care about any of the things they said they did under Democratic administrations. It exposes their sheer hypocrisy. What we are left with is the sense that they have traded their moral values for the vibes they get from “owning the libs.” Literally nothing else matters to them. Nothing.
The TEA Party was the most educationally, economically, religiously, lifestyle-wise, age-wise, and ethnically (mostly Mexican and Cuban) diverse political movement I ever witnessed (and I've been everywhere). Blue collar, white collar, professors (engineers and mathematicians mostly), military, tech folk, pilots, accountants, small business owners, lots of retired teachers and social workers, small farmers, and far fewer political professionals like me.
No wonder it scared the crap out of both political parties.
What we didn't have was a bunch of welfare layabouts and college brats, like I saw everywhere on the Democrat side.
"Trump’s supporters" include a lot of former Democrats many of whom belong to groups that the party needs to be successful on a national level. Calling them dupes and hypocrites is no way to win them back. No former Democrat voted for Trump because of "vibes" and wanting to "own the libs." What is happening is that working and middle-class people and socially conservatives (defined as people that think sexually maiming kids is wrong) of all ethnicities had concerns that neither party was addressing. Trump saw that and realized that he could use it to his advantage. So he ran for president as a Republican because that was the most viable option for gaining the nomination. Hand wave to super-delegates in the Democrat party who actually choose the nominee. If he had thought his chances were better if he ran as a Democrat he would have. This is basic civics that they used to teach in high school. If a large enough number of voters have concerns eventually one of the parties will try to win over those voters by offering to address those concerns. No amount of griping about rampant corruption and how Trump's supporters are secretly evil racists and misogynists is going to change that. Trump is what you get when you suppress the Tea Party. What do you think is going to happen if you manage to thwart Trump?
"The scale of Mr. Trump’s expanding support is striking. While roughly 8.1 million Americans of voting age live in triple-trending Democratic counties, about 42.7 million live in Republican ones."
"I am unconvinced that his appeal is necessarily transferable to the Republican Party writ large."
He's not necessarily wrong. In many ways what we're seeing in the United States (and elsewhere, such as Argentina) is an electorate that is sick to death of the elites and what they've been saying and doing almost unimpeded for decades. "Our society is increasing unsafe, miserable, and impoverished, and it's because of the credentialed idiots in power". Several years ago I read a short piece saying Trump is like chemotherapy. It's not medicine people take when they're healthy. If our society was in better health we wouldn't need or want someone like Trump.
gspencer said...
"They just served the wealthy globalists."
Review the number of CFR members who have been in all depts of fedgov, whether D or R, since the 1930s, chiefly in the depts of State, Justice and Defense, and you'll begin to understand that the USA is a plaything for them in setting up their NWO. Also striking will be in knowing the vast majority of the CFRers are grads of Harvard, Yale
Just another Bureaucracy that became the Aristocracy.
"If our society was in better health we wouldn't need or want someone like Trump."
I said something similar to a liberal friend after Trump was elected in 2016. That his election showed that there was something wrong with the political system in the US. She didn't realize that I saw him as a corrective agent. The leadership of both parties has been captured by people who think the global situation hasn't changed in 80 years, that they control the narrative, and who do not have the best interests of the working and middle-classes as a concern. Oh, and the bureaucracies are staffed by credentialed moronic ideologues.
This article doesn't address one of the major issues of the 2024 election, which was illegal immigration. One thing Democrats don't get is that Hispanics, Latinos, Tejanos, whatever you call them here in Texas did not like the open border. And I think Democrats condescendingly thought Latinos would support open borders. They couldn't have been more wrong.
"whatever you call them here in Texas"
Many Democrats call them "Latinx". This doesn't help them (the Democrats, not the Latinos), either.
They run away from the Democrats cause all they are for is queers, trans, and illegals. They are not for the working people that is for sure.
“I really don’t understand how they haven’t capitalized on Trump’s mismanagement, but they seemed to have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.”
Just one thing on a long list of many things kaKAW really does not understand.
If the Republicans were actually popular there would have been more than a one vote margin the other day on the big beautiful bill.
And with five special elections this year they could easily lose that tiny bit of superiority. The federal Gov't is running on executive orders...when there's not some district court over ruling them.
The TDS on the left is fueled by paralyzing fear that Trump will follow through on his promises and Americans will do extremely well.
The GOPe has the same fear.
All the Democrats need to do is refine their messaging, because, as they see it, the damn idiots whose support they used to have need to get back in line and under control. Yep. Messaging. That's the way to win the neo-deplorables back.
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