"While liberals have attempted to point out the irony of Trump’s use of what is historically considered a gay anthem... [but] the men in this room observed no such irony in the first place. To them Trump is not only pro-gay but a gay icon unto himself, a champion of masculinity in both its traditional and campy forms, as lovable for his flamboyant excess as for his red-meat invective against the left. 'The makeup, the hair, the sharp tongue, the cattiness,' [said Adam Ewer, copresident of the New York City chapter of the Log Cabin Republicans]. 'He’s the gayest president we’ve ever had.'... A gay publicist who only agreed to speak to me anonymously suggested that one reason some gays are drawn to the right wing is that it’s simply more fun. Democrats are the 'most killjoy people on earth,' he said, whereas there’s something 'actually quite gay' about MAGA. 'It’s masculine, but it’s also campy and bitchy.' And in its embrace of trash entertainment and penchant for offense it may have more in common with gay culture than the liberal mainstream, which in the publicist’s view has become 'painfully' middle-class. 'I’ve always liked opera and Jerry Springer, and I feel like Trump—that’s kind of his taste. It’s very high-low.'"
From "My Afternoon With the ‘Normal Gay Guys’ Who Voted for Trump/Gay MAGA is hypermasculine and anti-woke—and it wants a break from the LGBTQ+ movement" by Daniel Lefferts (GQ).
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LGB.................................TQ
one group....................another
The only vexing incongruity here is that the priggish lefties are a repulsive turnoff to everybody. Glad to have the gay guys on board the MAGA train. Politics is about addition.
YMCA is such a happy song. Was just listening to it a couple days ago (along with the Minions' version, heh).
Individuals who take pride in themselves and not their identity will find conservativism a refreshing departure from the liberal status quo that has colored our progress.
I've said many times the Democrats were idiots to attack Trump. He had much in common with their social views and had they approached him with an open hand rather than a closed fist he probably would have enacted many of the policies they say they wanted. (Though not the cray cray stuff)
Actually, LG is already a ridiculous mashup of two very distinct and somewhat hostile groups.
Yet another person notices: Trump is an alternative 1990s Democrat who brought along alt-1990s Democratic defectors to use the Republican Party as a vehicle for their vision.
Trump is not and never was a conservative.
Some transgender individuals are more stable than others.
Lady MAGA, drag performer -- hahaha!
Fun article. Thanks.
Trump is conservative: pro-Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness in a Republic under a Constitution that acknowledges individual rights and mitigates authoritarian progress.
"Trump is not and never was a conservative.
2/27/25, 12:25 PM"
You can say the same thing about ANY of the Republicans other than Rand Paul and Thomas Massie, and they are more libertarian.
Democrats are the 'most killjoy people on earth,':
Boy, ain't that the truth. Want to be scolded? Hectored? Lectured to? Talk to a Democrat about anything.
@n.n: "Trump is conservative: pro-Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness"
That's more of an Age of Elightenment liberal than a conservative. The USA was founded by explorers, radicals, and risk-takers. They were generally more change-oriented "progressives" than the stick-at-home European traditionalists who descended from kings (and could nominally trace their lineage back to Adam & Eve). The true European conservatives were rooted in the middle ages, Roman Catholicism, kings, dukes, earls, noble titles, and other the landed gentry.
USA conservatives are largely religious and stuck in old-time ways, not living large with casinos and TV shows and multiple wives. See the Amish and agricultural communities. Even the Mormons aren't actually conservative, given their dramatic shift away from Chistianity and polygamous side.
Nobody puts Trump in a corner.
The biggest problem the DEI crowd has is that they've become prudish church ladies, right down to the blue hair.
American conservativism is defined under Declaration and Constitution. The alternative characterizations are anachronistic throwbacks and forward-looking to other places and times.
n.n said...
Some transgender individuals are more stable than others.
Yet, all are still unstable. Well below the norm. Take any group- any norm or trait.
Some lesbians are heavier then others.
Some chessplayers are worse then others.
Some with Down's syndrome are more capable then others.
Even works with language.
Some statements comparing groups with traits are more offensive then others.
The Mormons were only ever polygamous in limited representation. Today's liberals are more polygamists as "friends", modern families,, and social progress that relieves forward-looking "burdens" with the performance of human rites as practiced in prehistoric periods by cultists and savages.
Trump is, in a word, fabulous. In several words he’s campier than a three-dollar bill.
I’ve always liked opera and Jerry Springer, and I feel like Trump—that’s kind of his taste. It’s very high-low.
Go back 200-300 years, and opera was considered as unspeakably low and vulgar as Jerry Springer is now. The indignant burghers of Prague were appalled when Mozart's Don Giovanni premiered in 1787, with its charismatic but morally deficient title character. Audience members disrupted the performances, and ultimately the conservative and religious citizens of Prague held a full-scale riot in the streets outside the opera house. There were also riots in Venice against the indecency and moral ambiguity in Verdi's La Traviata in 1853, and again in Paris when Bizet's Carmen opened in 1875. Rigoletto was banned for twenty years in France and came close to being banned by Italian government censors, and Verdi had to change some of the most licentious parts to be allowed to present it. Even so, the audience booed and disrupted every performance at its opening in Venice.
Homosexuals are notably at the stable end of the transgender spectrum. There are just as many politically congruent ("=") individuals in the unstable subset, typically in progressive sects practicing the Pro-Choice religion.
DEI is the institutional, systemic practice of Diversity (i.e. class-disordered ideologies) that denies individual dignity, value, merit, choice. That said, diversity of individuals, minority of one. #HateLovesAbortion
I would contend that Y.M.C.A. transcends being a gay anthem. It's definitely not considered one when it's played at every sporting event.
Gay MAGA is hypermasculine and anti-woke—and it wants a break from the LGBTQ+ movement"
The trans movement in some quarters is a threat to children who may be discovering that they are gay.
Democrats are largely special and peculiar interests who exploit differentials for leverage in their pursuit of monopolies of capital and control following left-wing ideologies and religions.
"Jupiter said...
Actually, LG is already a ridiculous mashup of two very distinct and somewhat hostile groups."
I recall reading that lesbians were listed first in "LGB" because in the really bad days of AIDS, it was mostly lesbian nurses who took care of dying gay men. They were given first billing in LGB as an act of gratitude and respect. I don't know if that's true or not.
n.n said...
“American conservativism is defined under Declaration and Constitution. The alternative characterizations are anachronistic throwbacks and forward-looking to other places and times.”
Succinctly put.
"Trump is not and never was a conservative."
At this point, if you don't believe in mandatory castration of all male children at the age of twelve, you are a conservative.
It's only vexing to those who want to be vexed.
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"L" comes first because of feminism.
In the early days it was "gays and lesbians".
But the lesbians complained.
Because that's what lesbians do.
Larry, does that really sound plausible? Suddenly a bunch of lesbian nurses, that no one had ever noticed before, sprang forth from the closet to tend to all the male homosexuals dying of Fauci's disease? The reality is that some homos are bi, and they will basically fuck anything, and the rest are straight homo, and they only want to fuck men. But neither bunch has much use for dykes. And the dykes mostly hang out with straights to try to poach the better-looking women. At least, that was how it worked, back when I had a social life.
The term “gay” encompasses the term “lesbian”, as well as male same sex attraction. I think “lesbian” was included to make it clear that female SSA was not just an afterthought and got put first. There is no common use term for male gays that covers all gay men that is not derogatory. So the ladies got the “L” and the guys got the “G”.
"But the lesbians complained.
Because that's what lesbians do."
Dykes. Somewhere between a third and a half of "lesbians" are straight women who are willing to accept some sexual attention from other women. Because men find that exciting, rather than threatening. But there is a hard core of dykes, who act male, and only want sex with women. And they will socialize with men, and even have male friends, of a sort, but they mostly live in a dark place. It is not their world, at all.
And they will socialize with men, and even have male friends, of a sort, but they mostly live in a dark place. It is not their world, at all.
2/27/25, 1:36 PM
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Lololol.
I think you boomers need to get a life.
ann is a grifter, collecting dollars off creating a "safe space" for you old men, but cmon... stop opining on the gay sexx posts already???
MadisonMan said...
Democrats are the 'most killjoy people on earth,':
Boy, ain't that the truth. Want to be scolded? Hectored? Lectured to? Talk to a Democrat about anything.
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This is the tenured thoughtleader who counseled his babygirl when she lost a competitive swimming race in Madison: "It's ok, baby girl. The water got in your way!"
She's likely tenured herself somewhere by now. The ivory tower refugees don't last long in the real world. It's why ann stays in the BigHouse in Madison. Safety.
ann and meade are kinda polygamists.
Ask their first wife and husband, and their later spouses and children... It's these mixed Modern Families that come from fucking and making everyone you fuck a "spouse". That's not what marriage is about, but dammit. She wasn't going to climb a mountain in Colorado and fuck you if you didn't give here a piece of paper from the State making her a respectable fuckable "legally married" woman.
Can ya blame the gays for wanting in on that "respect me and my union!" action?? lol. Not everybody buys it though. If she's still vacationing in Austin with the ex husband for the holidays... that's telling too.
Can't we all just get along?
Judging by its photo, Derve may well be one of them. It is possible that the unattractiveness of dykes (to men, at least) is something they work at, but it is so common among them that it is probably biological. High testosterone exposure in the womb. It is a puzzle, though, why women who are not attracted to men want to look and act like men, and are attracted to other women who do the same.
Eeew! Did someone take a big Derve in here?
"Liberals...pointing out the irony..."
Okay I'm going to stop you right there. Leftists and progressives have killed irony by being so batshit crazy that perhaps even the late great Rush Limbaugh would have a difficult time "illustrating absurdity by being absurd."
ann and meade are kinda polygamists.
Serial monogamy is not polygamy, you weirdo.
I guess when celebrate every Gay stereotype and you're Gay, its Okay. I guess.
Gays are now officially "Bitchy and Campy" - hope that sticks.
Hassayamper said...
ann and meade are kinda polygamists.
Serial monogamy is not polygamy, you weirdo.
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yeah yeah, what about the time ann took larry down to meet richard in austin in the fancy restaurant with rope lighting... ?
Some of you don't understand how these swingers work.
Not all lesbians are butch, and not all tomboys are lesbians.
Only 47 more months of whining.
Donald definitely channels Liberace and Paul Lynde. Not that ..
Is there a way to block people like disqus has? Inquiring minds want to know.
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